July 7, 2025

A Tale of 9 Yuri's: Dyatlov Pass Incident Part 2

A Tale of 9 Yuri's: Dyatlov Pass Incident Part 2
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The mystery of Dyatlov Pass has haunted us for over six decades. What could drive nine experienced hikers to slice through their tent from the inside and walk barefoot into certain death on a freezing mountain slope?

When the search for the missing hikers finally began in February 1959, no one could have anticipated the bizarre scene awaiting them. A tent abandoned with all survival gear inside. Single-file footprints leading calmly downhill. And eventually, nine bodies with injuries that defied explanation. 

We meticulously walk through the recovery timeline, examining each disturbing discovery as searchers first found five victims scattered between a makeshift fire and the path back to camp. Then, the most shocking revelation—four more bodies discovered months later in a ravine, bearing catastrophic internal injuries without external trauma. Missing tongues and eyes. Hyoid bones broken as if strangled. Clothing testing positive for radioactivity. And a mysterious notebook seen by only one witness before vanishing from evidence.

The official Soviet investigation concluded only that deaths resulted from "a compelling unknown natural force," a vague explanation that sparked decades of theories ranging from avalanches to military experiments to the paranormal. We analyze the forensic evidence—or alarming lack thereof—documenting inconsistencies in the official record that continue to fuel speculation.

What really happened on that remote mountain slope? Join us as we delve into one of history's most enduring mysteries, carefully separating known facts from fiction before we explore the wildest theories in our next episode. Subscribe now and share your own thoughts on what force could drive nine experienced winter travelers to abandon their only shelter and walk straight into death's arms.

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00:00 - Birthday Wishes and Episode Introduction

03:47 - Recap and Setting the Scene

10:01 - The Search Begins

20:26 - The Tent Discovery

26:30 - First Five Bodies Found

44:06 - The Final Four Bodies

59:25 - Mysterious Injuries and Autopsy Reports

01:11:56 - Conclusion and Theories Teaser

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I interrupt our beginning music for a very important announcement.

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I'd just like to say happy birthday to my co-host, Kate, who turns 40 today, July 8th, in case you don't listen to it today, if it's release.

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So everybody who listens to this please send happy birthday wishes to my co-host Kate.

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Thank you very much.

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Oh, hey there, oh hey there.

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Welcome back to Dyatlov.

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I'm catching on real quick.

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Dyatlov, part Kate Chokes.

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I was going to say welcome back to Kate dying in the corner.

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Yeah, this is History, bavoons.

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Part two.

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Part two of Dyatlov Pass.

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I am Kate.

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And I am Bradley and this is.

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We have Audra here.

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Audra Stump, who is a?

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co-worker of mine who loves the story Of Diat Love Pass.

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Yes, absolutely.

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She's been very informative.

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I've liked her interjections so far on the Part 1, because I didn't know that shit.

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Yeah, so If you have not listened to the first episode, please go back and do it for the love of fucking god do it?

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Go back, because you're going to be confused if you do not.

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Those know the story oh, I was there and I'm confused the background is super relevant, right the background is very relevant you're building up the reason why these people are here.

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So I mean you gotta know a little bit about them right otherwise it's just like you know no nine fucking randos, just right no 100 playing around playing around in the snow.

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I mean, I used to do that.

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That was great.

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There's one for me, so if you decide not to go back and listen, that's a fucking tragedy.

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This is the story about nine very experienced hikers, a tale of nine Yuri's.

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There's two at this point yes, all right, third one bailed um nine hikers who have um died mysteriously on the mountain in the northern urals in russia siberia or siberia the same thing, the same so if you have not gone back to listen to the first one or watch the first one.

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We talked about the background of the hikers and the weather or the terrain and what they brought with them.

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We've really set the scene.

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We really have we really have.

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Yeah, we set it up.

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So if you did not listen to it, that's on you.

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And the timeline.

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We also went through the timeline of what we knew happened.

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So far, yes, and when we all started drinking?

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That's fair.

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That's fair, she's not wrong.

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We were having some white Russians with vodka and heavy cream and Still Bailey's, bailey's, yep there it is.

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Yep, there it is, and I'm having a Modelo because I've had enough liquor from the first episode.

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Creamy dairy treats, creamy dairy treats.

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She literally only had one white Russian.

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I had one and a nut.

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What the fuck.

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It's all about balance.

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So we're going to start where the search begins.

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After the fact After the fact Okay.

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Okay, the group was expected to return to um.

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Return to visee, yes, by february 12th right and send a telegram to the university sports club saying, hey, we made it back yes exactly.

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give us our fucking category three exactly.

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Yes, yes, I want my piece of paper.

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So no message comes, families start to raise the alarms.

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February 12th came and went.

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They didn't start raising an alarm for eight days, though.

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So telegram Almost not true so.

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Okay well.

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The parents.

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Learn me something.

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The parents of Rustin Slobodin was the first to express some concern.

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Sure, rustic's father was the professor Vladimir Slobodin, who teaches at a local agricultural university.

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Okay, and he actually telephones the UPI sports club.

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Okay, phones the upi sports club, okay, so he was told that the director of the club, lev gordo, is also on a trip.

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Oh, he, on vacay oh dear and he won't reach be returning for several days right so more days do pass.

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So, day after day, relatives of the hikers call the university and they're given the same spiel, which is the the group is late understandable, yeah the director is gone.

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Please be patient so up in the mountains.

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No phone, no radio, delays are usual.

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Yeah, they are usual well, especially with inclement weather.

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Yes, you don't know justifiable at this point?

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yeah, exactly so igor diet love actually told yuri yudin before he he turned back, yeah, that because the trek was so complicated he was expected to take the hike a little bit longer sure I get that, but so, finally, on february 17th, the university, the university officially sends an inquiring telegram to vizay the village where the diet love group was supposed to be returning to have you seen these hikers exactly yeah, what's up?

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Yes, so the families also make a request to the university for some search planes.

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But no, they're not going to do that.

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No, no, no, no these dipshits did this on their own, yeah, so the rip.

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The reply telegram the next day because they get the very next day says the Dyatlov group did not return.

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So finally, the university takes charge and finally assembles a formal search party of the missing hikers.

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However, the Dyatlov group's official approved route was ne'er to be found.

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Oh shit.

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Because they didn't actually get it approved by the commission's records.

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It was lost in the Soviet paper shuffle.

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Cold War Again.

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There's some shit going on, yeah.

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I mean Cold War, KGBgb and space race, all that shit yeah so so we have no idea idea of what the exact path would have been right.

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So, with no definitive map of their course, the, the rescuers, are essentially marching into this frozen tundra with basically a blindfold on, not knowing which way the group actually went.

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They went to Lambeau Field.

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What the frozen tundra Anyways.

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I'm.

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Nebraska, and I don't know what that means.

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That's a common nickname for Lambeau Field.

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The frozen tundra.

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Why?

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Because it's cold up here.

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Does North Dakota or Montana or Seattle or Maine or Vermont or New Hampshire have a team?

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I said the ice bowl.

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What does that mean?

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So we're not talking about other states, we're talking about the green bay packers I know, but are there other places in the north that have?

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it doesn't matter, those don't have teams that's what I was asking if they had teams no, yeah, north dakota doesn't know montana, seattle.

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Seattle doesn't have a does but it's not, but it's rainy it's it's like this it's not the rainy tundra, it's yeah frozen correct what about alaska?

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They don't have a team that sucks for them I mean it's dark for a while, a while up there, and then it's light for yeah a while I feel like we're getting off point we are you just started naming states?

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Well, you started talking about a frozen tundra, I know nothing of.

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We blew your mind with football.

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There's a baseball game on tonight, the Brewers.

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There's a Brewers game on every night, from my understanding.

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Almost.

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Yes, you're right, not last night.

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Okay, okay're right.

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Not last night.

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Okay, okay, okay, oh dear.

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Finally, two men get into a military helicopter and fly over the Ural Mountains, but they don't get very far because of poor visibility.

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Was it snowing?

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Reoccurring theme.

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Yes.

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There was a storm.

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They had to turn back With the what yeah?

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February.

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Was it snowing?

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Reoccurring theme yes, there was a storm.

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They had to turn back With the what yeah?

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February 21st Volunteers students of the UPT, upi there it is, upi.

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Yep.

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Police and military researchers or searchers head into the mountains.

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Okay, they had planes, they had dogs, they had local guides from the Mansee tribe.

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Yes, they all joined the effort.

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Okay, february 26th, the tent is found.

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Cut from the inside.

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Yeah Fellow.

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Student of UPI, boris Slovtov, slovstav, slovstav.

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I feel like we're at an impasse here.

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His group discovered the trail of the skis that they assumed to be of the diet love group well assumed, yeah the next day, on the february 27th, they discovered the tent on the slope of the diet love pass yes well, it was named that after.

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But yeah, yes, ironically, ironically, slob tov jesus christ.

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Hey, have you seen slob tov?

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he was among those who actually helped construct the tent three years prior by taking the tent three years prior, by taking two four man tents and sewing them together.

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He's the one who stitched it up.

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So where did the ninth person sleep?

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Seriously, bradley Again, foot to face situation.

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Wash them, yep.

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He recognized this tent immediately.

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Now, take out your fucking phones.

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Take out your fucking phones.

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Oh, that was a direction for us.

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Yes, okay, I don't need.

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Take out your fucking phones, take out your fucking phones.

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Oh, that was a direction for us.

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Yes, okay.

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I don't need to take out my phone because I'm recording you on my fucking phone, Bradley.

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I need you to go to our drive.

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I have it up right now.

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I need you to look at the tent.

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It's called the Dyatlov Group something or other.

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Oh, you have a different thing.

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I'm supposed to look at Dyatlov Group tent.

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Yes, Take a look at that picture.

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So that's the tent that they extracted.

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And they put up back at the police station.

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Sure Was it?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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If you're going to eat, I'm going to eat.

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No, I'm not eating you it.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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If you're going to eat, I'm going to eat.

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No, I'm not eating.

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You are, though.

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I'm not.

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I'm taking a drink.

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But that doesn't matter.

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So this is the two four person tent sold into an eight person tent with don't have room for ninth but hey, everybody's friends here so okay, continue.

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Okay.

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I'll wait for my question.

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This tent was found 300 meters from the top of the mountain, on a yeah.

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Depending on what resource you look at.

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Yeah.

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A 22 to 30 degree slope Right.

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Okay, resource you look at, yeah, a 22 to 30 degree slope, right, okay dietlovepasscom.

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Oh, they have a website for that yes, that is um in chart, the diet love group foundation.

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Right, he's in charge of diet lovepasscom.

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They say it was a 30 degree slope.

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Okay, so why is there a discrepancy there?

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I'm not sure.

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I would just venture a guess it depends on snow drift, yeah settling amount of snow.

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Yeah, yeah okay, fair enough okay.

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So the official report says this quote campsite is located on the northeast slope of mountain 1079 at the source of river ospia ospia, the river ospia, okay.

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Campsite is located 300 meters from the top of the mountain 1079, on a slope of 30 degrees.

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Campsite consists of a pad of flattened snow on the bottom of stacked eight pairs of skis.

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Tent is stretched on poles and fixed with ropes.

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Nine backpacks were discovered with various personal items jackets, raincoats, nine pairs of shoes.

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Okay, there were also found men's pants and three pairs of boots, warm fur coats, socks, hat, ski caps, utensils, buckets, stove axe, saw blankets, notebooks, food, biscuits in two bags, condensed milk, sugar concentrates, itinerary and many other small items and documents, cameras and accessory to cameras.

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The nature and form of all cuts suggest that they were formed by contact with a canvas inside of the tent with the blade of some weapon, presumably a knife.

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End quote can you say utensils again?

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utensils there it is.

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I'm no like forensic investigator here, but right the picture if you can insert it to reference what I'm about to say.

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Yes, we can.

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Um, the tent is caved in upon, correct?

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So how does one tell at the point that everything is snow-packed right?

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right that cuts are made from the inside or the outside so the one that I listened to today was it was some random seamstress right Was in there for some other work and happened to see this set up within the police department I guess it was and said oh, those are from the inside.

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So she's not an expert, but she knows her shit.

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Yeah.

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So she knows her shit, kind of thing.

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Okay, yes, it just is like, oh, okay.

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So the size of the tent were cut from the inside.

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It looks like the hikers chose this weird exit to leave the tent, completely ignoring the entrance, and it looks like they fled suddenly and irrationally into the night.

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Some of the cuts on the tent did not make it all the way through.

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Okay.

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Okay, so this tent did not have zippers.

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What did it have?

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Zippers were invented at this time, but the tent was sewn together 1893.

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And then the entrance was secured with rope, ties and loops and they closed manually by tying the canvas flaps together.

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Oh, okay.

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So it was functional, but not a quick escape.

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Right, I'm sure.

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Yes, okay, okay, makes sense.

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So searchers discovered that the back of the tent was half buried in snow on the side of the mountain.

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Okay.

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So the north part was covered with 15 to 20 centimeters of snow.

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It was concluded from general appearance and density that it was not a result of an avalanche, but blown by the wind.

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Sure, out of an avalanche, but blown by the wind.

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Sure.

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Near the tent, a pair of skis were sticking out from the snow okay, which couldn't have remained upright had there been an avalanche.

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And at the entrance of the tent of the snow excuse me, in the snow was an ice axe Ice axe, mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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Next to the ice axe was Dyatlov's jacket.

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In the pockets was a penknife on a carabiner and a pocketbook with Zima Zina or Zaneta Kolmogorova's photo inside Zanita, zanita's Kolmogorova's photo inside this pocketbook Okay.

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Inside of Igor's pocketbook, right, suggesting that they were dating.

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Yeah, that's right.

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That's what you said before.

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Okay, Yep yep, the objects did not shed any light on what had happened, but it was strange that Dyatlov took off his jacket outside the tent.

00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:51.789
Well, yeah, because it's like, why would you do that in this cold?

00:18:52.050 --> 00:18:52.771
Exactly Well.

00:18:52.952 --> 00:18:53.153
Yeah.

00:18:55.140 --> 00:18:56.381
On the side of the tent.

00:18:56.381 --> 00:18:57.142
We'll get there.

00:18:57.142 --> 00:19:11.931
On the side of the tent, on top of 10 centimeters of snow, tent centimeters of snow, laid Dyatlov's flashlight.

00:19:12.991 --> 00:19:16.554
On top of the tent and snow On top of the snow.

00:19:16.554 --> 00:19:17.674
That's so weird.

00:19:18.634 --> 00:19:22.317
Boris, slob, slob, slob, slob.

00:19:22.317 --> 00:19:25.184
I'm so sorry.

00:19:25.246 --> 00:19:29.500
Slob, are we apologize for our pronunciation of everything?

00:19:29.800 --> 00:19:32.246
yes, he picked it up.

00:19:32.246 --> 00:19:33.047
He was a reason.

00:19:33.047 --> 00:19:34.309
He was one of the searchers.

00:19:34.309 --> 00:19:35.853
He picked it up and turned it on.

00:19:35.853 --> 00:19:43.425
The flashlight was in working condition okay, interesting from boris's witness testimony.

00:19:43.425 --> 00:20:00.926
He said, quote it was strange that while there was a layer of snow, let's say, five to 10 centimeters thick under the flashlight, there was no snow on top of it and it was snowed slightly on either side.

00:20:00.926 --> 00:20:01.627
End quote.

00:20:02.349 --> 00:20:05.340
So Wind, wind Right yeah.

00:20:05.622 --> 00:20:07.125
Drifting All that stuff either side end quote.

00:20:07.145 --> 00:20:11.343
So wind, wind, right yeah drifting, it's gonna sweep off the top and the object becomes uncovered.

00:20:11.564 --> 00:20:13.528
So that's what I would assume as well.

00:20:13.528 --> 00:20:22.888
Unfortunately, there were also a lot of problems when they documented the tent go figure-figure.

00:20:22.888 --> 00:20:26.795
Two photos were made that did not fit well together.

00:20:27.154 --> 00:20:27.435
Okay.

00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:28.925
Have you seen the photo now?

00:20:29.941 --> 00:20:31.065
The tent one.

00:20:31.285 --> 00:20:32.730
Yes, yes, the tent photo.

00:20:32.730 --> 00:20:37.790
Yeah, you can see that there are two photos that were kind of stitched together kind of horribly.

00:20:37.790 --> 00:20:38.313
Yep.

00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:42.549
The side of the tent facing uphill was not photographed.

00:20:42.549 --> 00:20:47.402
Oh, the tent facing uphill was not photographed.

00:20:47.402 --> 00:20:57.242
Oh, we know that there was at least one hole in the tent and diet loves jacket was actually tucked into this hole, oh, okay yes, at the far right end of the tent is left out of the photos.

00:20:57.242 --> 00:21:04.011
My cats are hungry.

00:21:04.011 --> 00:21:05.074
They're pawing at the door.

00:21:05.074 --> 00:21:09.111
I thought I was losing my mind the cats are like looking like.

00:21:09.230 --> 00:21:13.384
Does anybody else hear what I'm hearing someone make eye contact with me.

00:21:13.384 --> 00:21:14.405
I'm confused.

00:21:14.405 --> 00:21:14.886
What is?

00:21:14.886 --> 00:21:16.269
What is this?

00:21:16.269 --> 00:21:17.432
My cats are hungry.

00:21:17.432 --> 00:21:18.554
Is it in my head?

00:21:22.468 --> 00:21:28.640
part of the torn material on the right side of is covering a hole that has never been measured.

00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:36.118
Interesting, the sizes of the holes are not precise but only approximate.

00:21:36.118 --> 00:21:57.094
Okay, and when the seamstress who had come in to she came in to like size up an officer's wardrobe or something, she was the one that noticed these knife marks on the tent are coming from the inside, the inside out.

00:21:57.295 --> 00:21:57.535
Yeah.

00:21:59.520 --> 00:22:06.201
Why did she decide that these cuts were important and others that were on the tent were not worth mentioning?

00:22:07.304 --> 00:22:09.508
see, here's the problem with everything.

00:22:09.508 --> 00:22:25.054
I'm a skeptical bitch right okay, I automatically think everyone is lying until I know differently right so my mind is going is this a witness testimony, Right?

00:22:25.054 --> 00:22:26.115
Who is this woman?

00:22:27.361 --> 00:22:28.444
She's not an expert.

00:22:28.444 --> 00:22:29.489
She's a seamstress.

00:22:29.489 --> 00:22:31.788
But would we call her an expert?

00:22:31.788 --> 00:22:32.209
We don't know?

00:22:32.579 --> 00:22:35.269
Well, I mean, but who documented this?

00:22:35.269 --> 00:22:38.089
Like how many people were involved in this conversation?

00:22:38.089 --> 00:22:48.355
Because as we talk about the conspiracy theories and the possibilities here, the popular option is to scream cover-up, right.

00:22:48.355 --> 00:22:52.826
So in the grand scheme, who's this woman?

00:22:52.826 --> 00:22:58.821
How does this lend to the story and how do we know that it's not all bullshit?

00:22:59.242 --> 00:23:01.787
well, that's the thing it's.

00:23:01.787 --> 00:23:04.010
It could be a hundred percent bullshit.

00:23:04.010 --> 00:23:07.403
It could be, I mean seriously that's why this is popular.

00:23:07.403 --> 00:23:13.070
Well, and that's the thing, it's just, it's the whole pure speculation of what the fuck happened.

00:23:13.070 --> 00:23:13.270
Yeah.

00:23:13.270 --> 00:23:15.992
Nobody will fully ever know.

00:23:15.992 --> 00:23:20.209
There they can do their forensic evidence and so on and whatever.

00:23:20.209 --> 00:23:32.451
And like they mentioned something in that one which we haven't gotten to yet, so whatever, but we'll get there, okay, but it's like no one will ever fully know.

00:23:32.612 --> 00:23:38.839
Yeah, because they weren't there yeah, I'm just a skeptical bitch well, I think everybody's which is why you're on this podcast.

00:23:41.104 --> 00:24:02.385
So another problem with these photos there's no ruler so you have no idea the scale no, there was a chair in the back of the photo which they used as a measurement, really to measure the holes in the tent that's weird really.

00:24:02.766 --> 00:24:05.431
Yes, that seems really odd.

00:24:05.431 --> 00:24:09.679
Yeah, or just not very well planned out.

00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:19.605
Yeah, I mean seriously okay so, outside of the tent, eight or nine pairs of footprints.

00:24:19.605 --> 00:24:24.928
All were leading downhill towards the woods.

00:24:24.928 --> 00:24:27.209
Okay, Okay.

00:24:27.209 --> 00:24:39.875
Some were barefoot, some were in socks, some had a single boot on, and you can tell all of this by the pictures that they took, sure.

00:24:40.655 --> 00:24:44.637
So that kind of just puts the question out there.

00:24:44.637 --> 00:24:48.083
Right, this is where I spiral, guys.

00:24:48.083 --> 00:24:56.142
If the wind was strong enough to blow anybody's guesstimate of covering of snow around the flashlight?

00:24:56.142 --> 00:25:03.163
That's on top of the pile, so to speak yeah how did the wind not sweep over and destroy these footprints right?

00:25:03.565 --> 00:25:09.727
well, right, yeah, that makes no sense, because just drifting alone would have covered those up.

00:25:09.946 --> 00:25:15.142
Yeah, yeah so so if you know the other one comes out avalanche.

00:25:15.142 --> 00:25:18.144
Um, you know how?

00:25:18.144 --> 00:25:25.834
How do we preserve, to say, nine sets of footprints, some in boots, some barefoot, some stocking?

00:25:25.894 --> 00:25:29.624
yeah, no, that that's really weird to really think about.

00:25:29.663 --> 00:25:41.829
So so as they're looking upon these like footprints down the hill yeah um they notice that it's all in single file okay, so they're like the sand people from Star Wars.

00:25:42.371 --> 00:25:43.732
Like little ducks in a row.

00:25:44.653 --> 00:25:45.375
Or the sand people.

00:25:45.720 --> 00:26:08.713
Some would deviate outside of the single file and then come back Cut them off A couple times they would move out of the single file and come back, but all in all it looked like eight to nine sets of footprints heading down the hill in a very organized fashion.

00:26:08.713 --> 00:26:16.551
Yeah, fashion, not panicked Right, not fast, but just they're marching down the hill.

00:26:16.551 --> 00:26:18.722
Sure, it was uneventful.

00:26:19.424 --> 00:26:20.007
Uneventful.

00:26:20.287 --> 00:26:29.467
Yes, okay, okay, february 27th through March 2nd Okay, the first five bodies are found.

00:26:29.467 --> 00:26:40.690
Oh shit, about 1.5 kilometers or about one mile downhill from the tent, the investigators followed the footprints as best they could.

00:26:40.690 --> 00:26:47.106
They do disappear for a little bit and then they come back towards the, the bottom of the hill mountain.

00:26:47.106 --> 00:26:56.782
Um, they, the investigators, found the remains of a fire along under a cedar tree.

00:26:56.782 --> 00:27:20.140
Yes, okay, two bodies were there right yuri gregory krivonishenko and yuri doroshenko had to be both yuri's gregory krivonishenko and yuri doroshenko yeah they were bare, both barefoot, with minimal clothing.

00:27:21.143 --> 00:27:41.028
Now, many of the much of the research that I did said they were in their underwear, which was not the case no, no based on the diet love pass website by the diet love pass foundation right say that they were not in just underwear, but they were barefoot.

00:27:42.049 --> 00:27:48.509
Which is basically like being in just underwear out there right, they were in minimal clothing.

00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.390
No, I mean for sure, because like fuck could you imagine?

00:27:52.509 --> 00:27:54.630
No, do you think it was because of Igor.

00:27:54.630 --> 00:27:56.305
I can't imagine any of this.

00:27:58.465 --> 00:28:00.912
Do you think it was because Igor was washing her feet?

00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:03.126
I mean that's part of the theory.

00:28:03.247 --> 00:28:04.613
They failed the test of the theory.

00:28:04.613 --> 00:28:09.626
The test okay, so gregory krivonishenko.

00:28:09.626 --> 00:28:16.942
He was found facing up okay okay, krivonishenko's right leg has no footwear.

00:28:16.942 --> 00:28:33.457
On his left foot there was a brown sock torn okay another sock like this was discovered half burnt next to the fire interesting on the backs of his hands the skin is torn.

00:28:33.457 --> 00:28:37.284
Between the fingers there is blood.

00:28:37.284 --> 00:28:41.734
The index finger is also torn.

00:28:41.734 --> 00:28:47.381
The skin of his left shin is torn and covered in blood.

00:28:47.401 --> 00:28:48.201
Okay.

00:28:49.021 --> 00:28:51.825
There are no more visible injuries on his body.

00:28:52.365 --> 00:28:52.645
All right.

00:28:54.109 --> 00:28:54.451
That seems weird.

00:28:54.471 --> 00:29:03.901
Upon later investigation, it was noted that his own flesh was between his teeth, because he was probably trying to bite himself to see if he could feel.

00:29:03.901 --> 00:29:09.935
Potentially to see if he had any feeling in his hands Right because they were going through hypothermia.

00:29:09.935 --> 00:29:10.739
Basically, yes.

00:29:12.971 --> 00:29:19.420
He essentially bit his own hand in desperation to figure out if he could feel anything Exactly.

00:29:19.884 --> 00:29:25.372
I would imagine you're trying to just figure out am I fucking alive anymore?

00:29:25.653 --> 00:29:32.655
or have I completely lost it, because at that point you're probably fucking you're so disoriented, you're so cold.

00:29:32.655 --> 00:29:35.943
Yeah, you're yeah it's like am I alive?

00:29:36.305 --> 00:29:41.115
I don't know exactly, yeah, for sure could be a good idea yeah, at that point.

00:29:41.257 --> 00:29:49.201
And the problem is, when you're so deep into hypothermia like that, you're not gonna, you not going to feel that for a long fucking time.

00:29:49.490 --> 00:30:05.537
But also if I'm a hiker that's stuck and I'm fucking freezing, I'm going to be trying to rub any part of my body because especially my fucking legs Right, because those got to work Like I got to get out of here.

00:30:05.537 --> 00:30:07.201
A hundred percent yeah for sure.

00:30:14.671 --> 00:30:24.859
So so his clothes were found on ludmilla dubonina okay suggesting that she took his clothes to wear for herself.

00:30:25.441 --> 00:30:25.661
Right.

00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:28.123
Okay, okay, um.

00:30:28.123 --> 00:30:31.605
Kravina Shenko's cause of death was hypothermia.

00:30:31.967 --> 00:30:32.186
Yeah.

00:30:34.711 --> 00:30:35.933
It makes sense, yuri Doroshenko.

00:30:36.273 --> 00:30:36.513
Yeah.

00:30:37.496 --> 00:30:43.002
He was facing down, but he had liver mortis on his back.

00:30:43.683 --> 00:30:44.184
What does that mean?

00:30:50.849 --> 00:30:51.512
His blood was pooling on his back.

00:30:51.512 --> 00:30:52.175
Though he was, he was facing down.

00:30:52.195 --> 00:31:01.682
All the blood should have pooled down then right, right, but it was up on his back, it was on his back okay which means he would have died on his back, so liver on his front.

00:31:01.801 --> 00:31:11.491
We learned today liver mortis is different than rigor mortis, obviously yes liver mortis is lividity, for those who don't know it.

00:31:11.491 --> 00:31:19.270
Um, so the blood settling when you're deceased, rigor mortis, is the muscle tightening.

00:31:20.011 --> 00:31:46.480
Oh, okay, gotcha so he had liver mortis on his back, which suggests that he died on his back, but he was found facing down interesting okay, so this suggested that someone moved him after death right okay, possibly survivors, and possibly after they took clothes off of them, right to wear themselves.

00:31:46.480 --> 00:32:06.143
Okay, doroshenko had woolen socks on his feet, and over these socks were another lighter sock okay his ear, lips and nose are covered in blood oh dear, and on his left hand, the middle finger is bloody interesting okay, his cause of death was hyperthermia.

00:32:06.403 --> 00:32:13.636
Sure, okay, the branches on the cedar tree which they were found under, yeah, the two.

00:32:13.636 --> 00:32:26.542
They were broken up to the height of five meters or 16 feet, suggesting that the hikers had climbed the tree to potentially look for something.

00:32:27.884 --> 00:32:28.205
Okay.

00:32:28.589 --> 00:32:33.041
These cuttings were at the base of the tree and not used for burning.

00:32:33.041 --> 00:32:38.576
They were too young of branches so they were too wet essentially.

00:32:38.576 --> 00:32:49.784
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the clearing of the branches in the tree were facing towards the tent, so we're looking at a mile downhill.

00:32:49.784 --> 00:32:51.690
Right, we're a mile downhill.

00:32:51.690 --> 00:32:57.022
There's a cedar tree and the clearing in the cedar tree is in the direction of the tent.

00:32:57.022 --> 00:33:09.776
So, suggesting someone, climb the tent, maybe cut down a clearing to look, or, excuse me, climb the tree, cut down branches in the tree to look for where the tent might be.

00:33:10.411 --> 00:33:15.816
Oh, so they're just trying to find their way, potentially An orientation kind of thing, yes, which?

00:33:15.936 --> 00:33:17.173
way am I even going.

00:33:17.173 --> 00:33:18.357
Yes, sure.

00:33:18.679 --> 00:33:18.859
Okay.

00:33:18.859 --> 00:33:38.051
Forensic tests conducted on the bark of the tree had traces of skin embedded in it, suggesting that the pair had frantically attempted to climb the tree while snapping off branches, until their hands basically turned to kind of a little bit.

00:33:38.092 --> 00:33:40.013
Yeah okay, yeah interesting.

00:33:40.013 --> 00:33:47.304
I could not imagine being in this fucking scenario.

00:33:47.304 --> 00:33:48.932
No, this is wild no.

00:33:49.657 --> 00:33:49.778
Okay.

00:33:50.411 --> 00:33:51.702
Anyways, sorry, continue.

00:33:51.844 --> 00:33:57.115
The fire in the branches around the excuse me, the fire in the branches around the fire had been cut.

00:33:57.115 --> 00:34:03.532
Sorry, the branches around the fucking fire, there we go had been cut with a knife.

00:34:03.532 --> 00:34:07.372
We got there, okay, no knives.

00:34:07.372 --> 00:34:28.891
Were on any of the persons not found okay interesting the volume of work done suggested that there were more people around the fire helping build the fire than the two that were found near the fire so it makes sense right kravon ishenko and dora shanko if someone took their clothes right.

00:34:29.512 --> 00:34:32.358
Yeah, in this situation you're an asshole.

00:34:32.358 --> 00:34:40.016
If you steal your good buddy's clothes, yeah, like for yourself right so that's like a they died.

00:34:40.016 --> 00:34:41.197
Now it's okay.

00:34:41.197 --> 00:34:44.842
Now we can split up the the clothes situation, right.

00:34:46.364 --> 00:34:47.925
Exactly, that makes sense.

00:34:49.070 --> 00:34:51.275
So there's.

00:34:51.275 --> 00:34:54.702
The investigators also found various fragments of clothing here.

00:34:55.043 --> 00:34:55.222
Right.

00:34:56.150 --> 00:34:59.440
A ripped sweater cuff next to the fire.

00:35:00.081 --> 00:35:00.222
Okay.

00:35:01.612 --> 00:35:05.835
The trees near the fire had been cut with knives, but there were no knives.

00:35:05.835 --> 00:35:11.269
Doroshenko.

00:35:11.269 --> 00:35:31.166
Yuri doroshenko was found with gray foaming liquid on his cheek gray foaming liquid potentially an expelling of air okay, I guess sure krivon ishenko landed in or near the fire and potentially burnt his socks and parts of his body.

00:35:31.166 --> 00:35:35.217
So essentially they're thinking they climbed the tree.

00:35:35.217 --> 00:35:43.217
They fell one of them expelled so much air that it like applied a gray foaming liquid here.

00:35:43.217 --> 00:35:47.625
The other one fell into the fire and barked some of his clothes.

00:35:47.985 --> 00:35:57.289
Okay, okay interesting after falling to the ground, not being able to move due to exhaustion hypothermia hypothermia.

00:35:57.289 --> 00:36:16.427
They later died, not too far from the fire okay okay, the fire had only been lit for approximately an hour and a half, which means that they found approximately eight centimeters worth of branches of cedar that had been burned through.

00:36:16.427 --> 00:36:22.963
So how much of the branch was burned through, which was how long they could tell that the fire was lit?

00:36:22.963 --> 00:36:24.248
Oh, okay.

00:36:24.248 --> 00:36:30.532
So about eight centimeters was approximately an hour and a half of lit fire, that's fucking wild that.

00:36:30.612 --> 00:36:32.376
It's weird that they can tell that.

00:36:32.376 --> 00:36:35.342
I mean that's really just impressive.

00:36:35.342 --> 00:36:38.795
Yeah, I mean I get it, forensic stuff, all that, whatever.

00:36:38.795 --> 00:36:40.639
But jesus christ, how would you know that?

00:36:40.780 --> 00:36:48.322
but okay, I feel like there's a lot of variables that could throw that off, though, right 100 yes wind, wind.

00:36:48.322 --> 00:36:53.257
Someone putting it out early how old were the branches really?

00:36:53.476 --> 00:36:54.679
how old were they were?

00:36:54.739 --> 00:36:55.581
they more wet?

00:36:55.581 --> 00:36:56.922
Were they dry?

00:36:56.922 --> 00:37:00.052
Because I mean, that's all variable yeah, who knows?

00:37:00.331 --> 00:37:21.065
yeah, yeah, so how krivonishenko and Doroshenko died, which was side by side, indicated that whoever was last in contact with the bodies felt compassion, pity and respect towards the victims and potentially moved them because of the liver mortis.

00:37:21.445 --> 00:37:24.927
Yeah, okay, yeah, because yeah, yep, yep, yep Okay.

00:37:26.170 --> 00:37:30.804
That same day, igor Dyatlov, the leader, was found.

00:37:30.804 --> 00:37:40.123
Oh dear, okay, he was approximately 300 meters, or 328 yards, uphill from the cedar tree.

00:37:40.123 --> 00:37:44.918
Okay, his body was positioned in a way that it looked like he was actually headed back towards camp.

00:37:45.601 --> 00:37:46.943
Oh, really, mm-hmm Okay.

00:37:47.911 --> 00:37:49.398
He was dressed decent.

00:37:49.398 --> 00:37:57.344
He was in an unbuttoned fur sleeveless vest with two different socks on no shoes.

00:37:57.344 --> 00:38:03.001
It's hard to explain, kind of the uneven distribution.

00:38:03.001 --> 00:38:09.394
It could be that he had two socks on one foot and he moved one sock to the other foot Sure, just to protect it to the other foot, sure, just to protect it.

00:38:09.394 --> 00:38:10.137
We don't know.

00:38:10.498 --> 00:38:10.579
No.

00:38:11.110 --> 00:38:17.259
He had minor abrasions on his internal wrist, okay, both knees and ankles.

00:38:17.259 --> 00:38:23.338
He had dried blood on his lips, minor abrasions throughout his face.

00:38:23.338 --> 00:38:29.539
He had bruises on his knuckles common in hand-to-hand fights.

00:38:29.539 --> 00:38:33.052
Sure there were no internal injuries.

00:38:33.373 --> 00:38:44.635
His cause of death was hypothermia so he's what the third or fourth person of he's the cause of death hypothermia third, he's the third found.

00:38:44.655 --> 00:38:51.286
All right, yes, next we have zanata kolmogorova.

00:38:51.286 --> 00:38:52.972
What, what's her name?

00:38:52.972 --> 00:38:54.273
Kolmogorova?

00:38:54.273 --> 00:39:02.711
Okay, nailed it nailed it she was found next okay um, she was beyond diet love.

00:39:02.711 --> 00:39:07.780
Another 330 meters heading towards the tent how many feet is that?

00:39:07.780 --> 00:39:10.545
So 630 meters from the tent.

00:39:10.545 --> 00:39:21.400
I did not do a um conversion on that one, that's fine 630 meters from the from the cedar tree I mean, that's pretty far she was just fairly well in layers.

00:39:21.641 --> 00:39:27.385
She had three pairs of socks, no shoes that's so weird, like why would you have so many socks but no shoes?

00:39:27.385 --> 00:39:29.635
That's so weird, Like why would you have so many socks but no shoes?

00:39:29.635 --> 00:39:33.420
That's just strange Well they found what?

00:39:33.541 --> 00:39:36.557
nine pairs of shoes inside the tent.

00:39:36.809 --> 00:39:40.809
Right, so I mean fuck if I don't have shoes on.

00:39:41.471 --> 00:39:46.170
I'm putting all the socks on, give me more socks.

00:39:47.913 --> 00:39:48.733
More socks please.

00:39:49.273 --> 00:39:52.757
So she had numerous contusions on her face and hands.

00:39:52.757 --> 00:40:02.126
Okay, she had a long bruise on the side of her torso, a very long bruise which looks like a potential baton hit.

00:40:03.471 --> 00:40:09.793
Oh, and the important thing here is that this is pre-mortem right, Right After death.

00:40:09.793 --> 00:40:10.737
You don't bruise.

00:40:10.737 --> 00:40:16.360
So correct Because yeah, there's no blood flow Right.

00:40:16.650 --> 00:40:23.681
So, and where she is at, on the pass, on the way to the tent, there is nothing growing Interesting.

00:40:23.882 --> 00:40:25.585
There's nothing there, ok.

00:40:26.911 --> 00:40:44.530
Her cause of death is hypothermia due to a violent accident violent accident, no doubt okay next they find rustam slobodin on march 5th, so a couple days later.

00:40:44.530 --> 00:41:01.157
All right, he was at a distance of 480 meters from the cedar, so he was actually between igor dyatlov and zenaida kolomogorova she's the one last name that I just can't quite get, okay, kolomogorova, yes.

00:41:01.157 --> 00:41:08.286
So he was covered with 50 centimeters of snow, face down, headed towards the tent.

00:41:08.286 --> 00:41:10.838
He was dressed better than the others.

00:41:10.838 --> 00:41:13.739
He had one felt boot.

00:41:14.952 --> 00:41:15.896
One felt boot.

00:41:17.550 --> 00:41:22.121
He had dried blood on his nose, a lot of abrasions on the side of his face.

00:41:22.121 --> 00:41:25.137
Yeah, bruised knuckles, like he was in a fight.

00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:25.639
Okay.

00:41:26.329 --> 00:41:44.356
Bruises on his left tibia, hemorrhages on his temporalis muscles of the face up here okay fracture of the frontal bone, potentially from a blunt object, but not lethal okay okay.

00:41:44.356 --> 00:42:13.077
His injury pattern is a reverse of what we would actually see an injury suffered by a freezing man in the last minutes of his life right, yeah, 100 so it looks as if rustin fell repeatedly on his face as he was walking down the mountain, except for he was walking up the mountain I mean, I guess, the cats are going crazy in that room I hear them yeah it looks as if um so.

00:42:13.117 --> 00:42:18.132
So he had bruises and scratches which were all blamed on, like last minute agony.

00:42:18.132 --> 00:42:24.331
Essentially, yeah, although it was still somewhat unclear how it managed to harm him.

00:42:24.331 --> 00:42:39.454
When a person falls, even in an irrational state, my cats are going crazy at the door, so initially I thought it was like popcorn popping and I'm like there's gonna be fucking popcorn.

00:42:39.614 --> 00:42:41.478
Oh, it's escalating, it's really popping.

00:42:41.478 --> 00:42:45.556
Now, okay, that's not popcorn, pop it like it's hot Okay.

00:42:45.556 --> 00:42:46.599
All right.

00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:51.440
So we don't know how he did damage to his exterior hands and legs.

00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:51.902
Right.

00:42:51.902 --> 00:42:59.025
When a person falls down in like an irrational state, it's usually the palms that suffer.

00:42:59.266 --> 00:43:01.954
Typically, yeah, You're trying to like stop yourself Because you're stopping yourself.

00:43:01.954 --> 00:43:03.159
Yeah, Exactly.

00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:07.920
So somehow every time he potentially fell he hit his face.

00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.603
That's so weird.

00:43:09.603 --> 00:43:14.001
So if he hit his head he could have lost coordination.

00:43:14.001 --> 00:43:25.585
On Slobodin, the liver mortis spots were on top on the top surface of his body, which means he potentially was flipped over.

00:43:25.585 --> 00:43:36.458
Right he potentially was flipped over right with corp, corp, corp, kovina, krivonishenko, with krivonishenko and doroshenko.

00:43:36.458 --> 00:43:44.036
The medical examiner potentially mistook frostbite erythema, which is redness for liver mortis.

00:43:44.036 --> 00:43:52.485
Oh, when frostbitten bodies are thawing, the body can turn red making it for mistaking it for liver mortis.

00:43:52.889 --> 00:43:55.077
This could possibly have happened to Rustem?

00:43:55.398 --> 00:43:56.039
Okay, okay.

00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:01.659
Two months went on without the last four hikers being found.

00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:02.579
Oh dear.

00:44:03.342 --> 00:44:11.934
The weather was horrendous Yep and snowfall was making the search impossible and at this point we are going to take a small break.

00:44:11.934 --> 00:44:18.476
We don't have much more to go, but I need to pee again.

00:44:18.476 --> 00:44:24.777
That's fine, and we're back.

00:44:26.896 --> 00:44:28.530
It's my new thing, tom.

00:44:28.530 --> 00:44:36.592
I'm going to start everything now, every meeting, everything I do, fuck yeah, fuck yeah.

00:44:36.592 --> 00:44:39.954
Bitches, okay, ready to fuck today in the mouth?

00:44:39.954 --> 00:44:47.099
Yes, I'm sorry that came out really aggressive, no that's my new sentiment for every fucking day.

00:44:47.451 --> 00:44:48.710
I'm going to fuck this day in the mouth.

00:44:48.750 --> 00:44:50.597
Right, fuck this day in the mouth.

00:44:50.597 --> 00:44:57.257
Super professional all the time.

00:44:57.972 --> 00:44:59.931
Always, always, Frankie.

00:44:59.931 --> 00:45:01.496
Okay, we got two pages left.

00:45:02.650 --> 00:45:04.235
Come on, Frankie Fakes, let's do this.

00:45:04.655 --> 00:45:04.956
Okay.

00:45:05.338 --> 00:45:06.300
Oliver's the one I'm nervous.

00:45:06.300 --> 00:45:07.929
He likes to rub on shit and make noise.

00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:09.114
And he's doing it now.

00:45:09.215 --> 00:45:11.916
God damn it I know, I'm kind of confused why he's out.

00:45:13.675 --> 00:45:18.110
I'm like revisiting this whole scene of Bradley kissing thing.

00:45:18.110 --> 00:45:20.275
Oh, it wasn't anything.

00:45:20.295 --> 00:45:22.561
Oh, my word.

00:45:24.130 --> 00:45:26.657
It wasn't like a romantic kiss, no, it was, was just.

00:45:27.099 --> 00:45:28.121
I want to see that, so we just.

00:45:28.853 --> 00:45:33.737
That's all it was like thanks for making tacos yeah exactly.

00:45:35.155 --> 00:45:36.659
Thanks for making tacos smooch.

00:45:48.543 --> 00:45:52.036
I had to edit a lot of shit out and we're back, are we?

00:45:53.793 --> 00:45:59.121
part of the thing is like obviously I'm editing this out.

00:45:59.161 --> 00:45:59.885
So I'll just say it.

00:46:00.387 --> 00:46:00.889
We're dating.

00:46:01.733 --> 00:46:07.702
The podcast doesn't know that that's why Kate visits your house.

00:46:08.610 --> 00:46:09.876
Yeah, and I visit hers.

00:46:10.731 --> 00:46:12.096
Yeah, I visit his family.

00:46:12.396 --> 00:46:12.637
Yeah.

00:46:14.211 --> 00:46:16.179
And we're co-workers?

00:46:16.179 --> 00:46:18.452
Yeah, and so are Sam and I.

00:46:18.452 --> 00:46:22.159
Yeah, exactly 100%.

00:46:22.179 --> 00:46:24.985
Yeah, who would think otherwise?

00:46:24.985 --> 00:46:27.378
Anyways, let's do this.

00:46:27.659 --> 00:46:43.650
Two pages, let's go when you guys said you weren't gonna get here to four, I was like this is gonna be a long night to be fair, I did try to leave like right after work, but same happened on a Friday.

00:46:44.974 --> 00:46:47.240
Everything is blowing up right about that time.

00:46:47.349 --> 00:46:50.076
So it's like hard stop, gotta go.

00:46:50.856 --> 00:46:53.202
I was ready she was.

00:46:53.202 --> 00:46:57.018
It was me Like I wasn't wearing a shirt.

00:46:57.340 --> 00:46:59.135
You know Shirt at a time like this.

00:46:59.751 --> 00:47:01.177
I'm like I gotta wear a shirt.

00:47:01.177 --> 00:47:03.409
Are you sure I have to put a shirt on?

00:47:03.409 --> 00:47:04.994
I did.

00:47:04.994 --> 00:47:07.157
I don't really like leave my house.

00:47:09.030 --> 00:47:13.222
Like that's the joy of working at home, that's quite alright, I totally get it, totally get it.

00:47:13.329 --> 00:47:16.675
It's not like I was walking around with my tits out, like I did have a.

00:47:16.675 --> 00:47:22.010
A bra and other flannel.

00:47:23.034 --> 00:47:24.117
Do you want to know a funny fact?

00:47:25.050 --> 00:47:26.219
You walk around with your tits out.

00:47:26.380 --> 00:47:30.318
No, my, my initials is Bra oh.

00:47:30.318 --> 00:47:30.498
Bra.

00:47:30.498 --> 00:47:35.496
My name is Bradley Rogers Akers.

00:47:36.601 --> 00:47:36.961
Okay.

00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:38.233
So I have three last names.

00:47:38.594 --> 00:47:38.916
Bra.

00:47:39.177 --> 00:47:39.778
Yeah, Bra.

00:47:43.793 --> 00:47:44.963
I have three first names.

00:47:44.963 --> 00:47:49.931
Three first names Kate.

00:47:49.952 --> 00:47:51.108
Elizabeth and Stuart, that's not your first name.

00:47:51.108 --> 00:47:59.717
I have three first names that's not your first name, though I mean, do it for being technical it is Katie, isn't it?

00:47:59.878 --> 00:48:02.599
yes, but I know you don't like that.

00:48:03.353 --> 00:48:34.751
Don't fuck shit up just to be destructive, okay let's finish this okay, we're back and guess who's back back again shady's back tell my friend, yeah okay, we're on to may 4th yes, be with you yes, once the snow started melting for so that's two months later.

00:48:34.751 --> 00:48:43.394
Wait, yes, holy shit, this two months star wars right this is pre-star wars but star wars transcends everything.

00:48:43.434 --> 00:48:43.956
That's fair.

00:48:43.956 --> 00:48:46.193
We just didn't know the story until the 77.

00:48:46.193 --> 00:48:47.059
That's fair, it was already there.

00:48:47.059 --> 00:48:48.086
It know the story until the 77.

00:48:48.086 --> 00:48:49.996
That's fair, it was already there it was cooking.

00:48:50.572 --> 00:48:51.856
Let's hone this in folks.

00:48:51.856 --> 00:48:56.114
Once the snow started settling.

00:48:56.175 --> 00:48:56.617
May 4th.

00:48:56.889 --> 00:48:57.516
Just kidding.

00:48:58.043 --> 00:48:59.251
Once it started melting.

00:48:59.251 --> 00:49:00.717
I was going to say settling.

00:49:01.231 --> 00:49:14.697
A Manse tribe native and his dog were walking around and found some pants with the right leg cut off pants at a time like this and he found another.

00:49:14.697 --> 00:49:25.737
I have to put pants on he found the left half of a woman's sweater again all cut up where's the right half?

00:49:25.737 --> 00:49:31.543
The right half was cut off, as well as the sleeve of the left half.

00:49:32.744 --> 00:49:33.246
Okay.

00:49:33.266 --> 00:49:33.885
So it was a vest.

00:49:33.885 --> 00:49:43.561
So this area in this search was searched with probes.

00:49:43.831 --> 00:49:53.280
People would poke down a bunch of probes to see if it hit something solid and during the search yeah, imagine that job no, no, fuck that.

00:49:53.280 --> 00:50:12.344
That would be terrible and they did search this area with the probes, but the snow was too deep to actually reach where the bodies were found okay but a den was found, a den about 70 to 75 meters from the cedar tree downhill.

00:50:12.643 --> 00:50:13.045
Okay.

00:50:13.726 --> 00:50:17.277
The LaBaz, not quite the LaBaz.

00:50:17.277 --> 00:50:24.809
The den was made by the surviving four members of the group in a ravine that was hidden from cold winds.

00:50:24.809 --> 00:50:26.943
Vein that was hidden from cold winds.

00:50:26.943 --> 00:50:33.172
Cedar branches were brought here and laid out to minimize contact with the snow.

00:50:33.172 --> 00:50:39.059
So they built this den, they brought in these branches and they would sit on the branches Right, okay.

00:50:39.059 --> 00:50:49.148
So on one hand, it shows that they are sane enough to do all these survival tactics.

00:50:49.369 --> 00:50:51.336
They still have the survival instinct Right.

00:50:51.356 --> 00:50:58.360
Yes, On the other hand, it's unclear why it worked, because where did the knife go?

00:50:58.360 --> 00:50:59.996
There was no knife.

00:51:00.210 --> 00:51:02.237
There's no knife Right yeah.

00:51:03.291 --> 00:51:04.335
No knife found.

00:51:04.335 --> 00:51:16.063
No knife and some of the clothes that were taken from the bodies left underneath this cedar tree were placed on the cedar branches and they weren't being used okay that is weird.

00:51:16.123 --> 00:51:22.177
So devil's advocate here yeah, right, devil's avocado devil's lettuce.

00:51:22.177 --> 00:51:23.518
Um.

00:51:23.518 --> 00:51:30.206
So if these branches were hypothetically gotten from around the fire?

00:51:30.206 --> 00:51:34.679
Right, you know we've climbed the tree, we've gotten the branches.

00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:47.041
We're trying to look out um this could explain some of like the shin injuries, right you're breaking it over your knee because oh, there's no evidence, like no one has a knife, that's known.

00:51:47.163 --> 00:51:50.797
But I would assume that they would know the difference between something being broken.

00:51:50.797 --> 00:52:01.402
Your cord is making noises If you want to put it across the microphone there, or that You're good.

00:52:01.402 --> 00:52:02.324
Yeah, you're good.

00:52:02.324 --> 00:52:10.501
I think they would know the difference between a branch being broke versus being cut.

00:52:10.501 --> 00:52:11.302
Yeah.

00:52:11.690 --> 00:52:17.594
I mean you're not wrong there, because they could definitely tell that I know what you're saying.

00:52:17.594 --> 00:52:20.282
Yeah, I don't know.

00:52:20.282 --> 00:52:24.902
It's just weird, because you would definitely know if it was broke or cut.

00:52:24.902 --> 00:52:25.222
Yeah, I think so.

00:52:25.222 --> 00:52:26.447
I mean there's significant was broke or cut.

00:52:26.447 --> 00:52:27.148
Yeah, I think so.

00:52:27.148 --> 00:52:30.998
I mean there's significant difference between the two.

00:52:30.998 --> 00:52:31.500
Yeah.

00:52:31.500 --> 00:52:34.914
So I don't know, it's just strange.

00:52:34.914 --> 00:52:37.561
Yes, go on.

00:52:38.391 --> 00:52:43.458
So, the bot, the leftover, the leftover, excuse me, the four remaining bodies.

00:52:43.458 --> 00:52:54.315
And these are the people that were by the the ravine the ravine they were not found in the den that they built no, they were.

00:52:54.597 --> 00:53:03.802
They were found in a ravine because of, potentially, what the other one I listened to was there was moving water underneath it.

00:53:03.802 --> 00:53:07.478
What's the word I'm looking for?

00:53:07.478 --> 00:53:07.840
Fuck?

00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:25.960
disintegrated human flesh yeah, let's go with that yeah that's exactly what I was thinking, so they were buried a few feet away in a ravine under four meters or 13 feet of snow but it also was snowing, and and blowing.

00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:26.900
And blowing.

00:53:26.900 --> 00:53:31.706
So I mean, there's potential for that to be a part of that 13 feet.

00:53:31.706 --> 00:53:37.163
So it's not like significant, like I shouldn't say not significant.

00:53:37.163 --> 00:53:41.280
It's not like okay, well, snow all fell on them.

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.489
It could have been blowing around, whatever.

00:53:43.489 --> 00:53:47.458
There's a lot of different variations of what could have happened.

00:53:47.458 --> 00:53:50.563
For them to be under that much snow is what I'm saying.

00:53:51.891 --> 00:54:00.039
So if you both want to take a look at the document that I created, the one with the tent and everything.

00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:12.224
Yes, so it has a picture of the tent where all of the hikers were found, yeah, and kind of like the overall visual.

00:54:12.224 --> 00:54:15.137
Of course it's not accurate in any way, shape or form.

00:54:15.137 --> 00:54:24.278
Just kind of a, just a visual representation overall visual yeah, just so that you kind of know where everybody was found and where right.

00:54:25.541 --> 00:54:26.141
So who was?

00:54:26.141 --> 00:54:28.766
Who was diet love dating again.

00:54:28.766 --> 00:54:29.606
What was her name?

00:54:29.646 --> 00:54:42.219
yeah, zanada, the one closest to the tent, who had died uphill okay, so they weren't far apart from each other, but they were someone who was between them yeah, yeah, rustin.

00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:48.398
Rustin was, slobodin was between them right, okay, I was just trying to figure out how close they were.

00:54:48.398 --> 00:54:49.440
Yeah, okay.

00:54:50.331 --> 00:54:51.494
Okay so.

00:54:51.735 --> 00:54:51.916
Yeah.

00:54:52.510 --> 00:54:53.856
Ludmila Dubonina.

00:54:56.469 --> 00:54:57.717
Yeah, there she is, yes.

00:54:57.878 --> 00:54:59.673
She was at the bottom of the ravine.

00:54:59.695 --> 00:55:01.175
She was one of the four, yeah.

00:55:01.195 --> 00:55:04.338
Yes, she was found fairly dressed.

00:55:04.338 --> 00:55:12.233
She was wearing the clothes of some of the others which speculation is other.

00:55:12.233 --> 00:55:17.784
They found others dead they died, they took their clothes to help their survival correct.

00:55:17.784 --> 00:55:48.300
The clothing that she wore was gregory krivonishenko right and it was found after the fact that his clothing, at least his, his top, yeah was radioactive right, which is wild, that they would even test for that I mean honestly so ludamilla, apparently in the last attempt to kind of preserve her feet, also took off her sweater and cut it in two pieces okay and put it around her feet.

00:55:48.469 --> 00:55:53.876
She was already wearing two pairs of socks and a third one on one foot, but not the other.

00:55:53.876 --> 00:55:55.677
She couldn't find the pair, or whatever.

00:55:56.692 --> 00:56:07.092
I mean if she was in a rush, yeah, so one half of the sweater was on one foot, the other half she left on the slope.

00:56:07.092 --> 00:56:12.978
She actually didn't get it on her foot, okay, somehow it was unintentionally left behind, sure?

00:56:12.978 --> 00:56:32.639
Um, she had severe internal injuries severe yes, ribs two, three, four and five were broken on the right side and two were fractured lines which are visible.

00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:42.128
Yeah, ribs two, three, four, five, six, seven are broken on the left side, which is basically all of them.

00:56:42.693 --> 00:56:45.335
Yes, I was saying is there any left With an additional two fracture lines?

00:56:45.335 --> 00:56:50.554
That's crazy Just your first one, which is kind of hard to get at, but yeah, you're not wrong there.

00:56:51.056 --> 00:57:02.659
Holy balls there was a massive hemorrhage in her um heart's right atrium, potentially due to one of the broken ribs okay she also had.

00:57:03.981 --> 00:57:09.414
I'm so ready for you to say this Fuck yeah, say it, do it.

00:57:11.335 --> 00:57:12.619
She had a missing tongue.

00:57:13.856 --> 00:57:14.338
And eyes.

00:57:14.871 --> 00:57:21.077
And eyes and part of her lip and Her hyoid was broken.

00:57:21.077 --> 00:57:21.820
What's that?

00:57:21.820 --> 00:57:25.228
Your hyoid is way up in your throat.

00:57:25.369 --> 00:57:25.550
Yeah.

00:57:26.291 --> 00:57:32.063
And is an injury that typically only occurs in cases of strangulation.

00:57:33.253 --> 00:57:36.670
I have not heard that in any of my research.

00:57:36.929 --> 00:57:46.438
That is one of the most fucked up injuries in this whole spiel and I haven't heard that in any, not even on the Diet Love Pass website.

00:57:47.369 --> 00:57:51.201
So questionable there, questionable so many things.

00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:59.646
It's crazy but, yeah, her hyoid was broken, which isn't an easy thing to do, right?

00:57:59.865 --> 00:58:09.965
no, I get it is a small bone, yeah, yeah, but, and it's a fragile bone, but you do have to really get up there and apply pressure.

00:58:10.110 --> 00:58:12.219
No, for sure, because otherwise Consistent pressure.

00:58:12.219 --> 00:58:15.072
How would you do that, right?

00:58:15.072 --> 00:58:20.840
No, it has to be consistent excessive pressure, yeah no, for sure.

00:58:21.362 --> 00:58:28.684
No, I get that so doobanina was found lying on a natural ledge with continuous water flowing over her.

00:58:28.684 --> 00:58:46.851
Okay, her mouth was open yes and while some have claimed her tongue had been torn out or eaten, the medical report is more restrained in saying, quote the tongue is missing yeah I mean, they also didn't fucking know.

00:58:47.135 --> 00:59:13.472
So yeah, I don't know, seems weird, but yeah, okay the forensic examiner not only noted or, excuse me, noted not only the missing tongue, but also the absence of the hypoglossal muscle, which I believe is like one of these, like side tongue muscles okay and the floor muscles of the mouth, so she was missing all of that okay, okay.

00:59:13.592 --> 00:59:41.083
Did they mention anything other than what they weren't missing, like in terms of this seems normal no, okay, no I'm just curious, because it's like I get what they're stating there, obviously, but I don't know, I'm never so what's weird is that there is a high lack of detail in the autopsy compared to other autopsies okay.

00:59:41.103 --> 00:59:49.784
Okay, there is no clear explanation for the vagueness which only fuels in our speculation, absolutely.

00:59:49.864 --> 00:59:50.045
Right.

00:59:51.476 --> 01:00:00.329
Her stomach contained 100 grams of dark brown mucosal substance.

01:00:00.909 --> 01:00:01.271
Okay.

01:00:02.155 --> 01:00:06.405
Which is usually said as coagulated blood.

01:00:06.405 --> 01:00:13.907
Yep and this interpreted Interesting as a sign of her heart was still beating when the tongue was removed.

01:00:14.797 --> 01:00:16.402
Oh, so she was still alive.

01:00:16.735 --> 01:00:17.987
This is speculation.

01:00:17.987 --> 01:00:22.362
Obviously it is not proven, but speculation no but obviously speculation.

01:00:22.675 --> 01:00:32.436
They think she was alive when her okay yes, so much like our conversation about how you can tell that a branch is broken or cut.

01:00:32.436 --> 01:00:38.182
Yeah, you can probably tell if a tongue is cut or ripped out.

01:00:38.182 --> 01:00:43.728
Yeah, exactly, for sure for sure, yeah, just for fun so just for funsies.

01:00:44.130 --> 01:00:49.623
Her official cause of death was listed as hemorrhage to the right atrium of the heart.

01:00:49.623 --> 01:00:54.197
Okay, by multiple fractured ribs and severe internal bleeding.

01:00:54.197 --> 01:00:58.581
Sure, no external wounds.

01:00:58.581 --> 01:01:01.443
That's none.

01:01:01.443 --> 01:01:02.485
That's so weird.

01:01:02.485 --> 01:01:13.402
Coroners described the trauma as being hit by a car, yet no soft tissue damage, cuts or abrasions how?

01:01:13.722 --> 01:01:15.246
how hard were they hit by the car?

01:01:15.246 --> 01:01:16.949
I don't know.

01:01:16.989 --> 01:01:22.023
The thing right like I'm just saying because like cause that like no.

01:01:23.344 --> 01:01:34.463
Anyways, I'll say in terms of this yes dubonina would have died with that injury yeah within 10 to 20 minutes after the initial trauma oh, it would have been quick, it would have been, very fast.

01:01:34.563 --> 01:01:54.608
Okay, yeah, fair enough probably very slow for her well, yeah, yeah, you're not in the grand scheme but overall overall her so much yeah, so semion zolotary off, okay, okay if you'd like.

01:01:54.987 --> 01:01:56.489
Yeah, you've got that reference photo now.

01:01:56.489 --> 01:02:01.510
Yeah, so semion had similar injuries as ludamina Yep, yep, yep.

01:02:01.510 --> 01:02:11.469
Okay, yep, he had broken ribs two, three, four, five and six, on the right side only.

01:02:11.775 --> 01:02:14.445
So basically, that's so weird that it was on one side.

01:02:14.797 --> 01:02:17.179
Yeah, she was on both sides, he was on one side.

01:02:17.835 --> 01:02:19.963
Seven and one and seven Is that.

01:02:20.434 --> 01:02:26.516
So it would be like something hit potentially hit her directly, right?

01:02:26.516 --> 01:02:33.255
Yes, it seems that way yeah something, uh, or he turned to the side yeah, he took it on the side.

01:02:33.434 --> 01:02:39.068
If she was forward and he was turning to the side and they both got hit, it would just be his side.

01:02:39.068 --> 01:02:44.677
Her front correct makes total sense yeah so he had hemorrhaging into the cardiac muscle.

01:02:44.677 --> 01:02:47.844
None of the soft tissue was damaged.

01:02:47.844 --> 01:02:59.123
Okay, he also had missing eyeballs animals like to eat yes, they like soft parts yeah, there are foxes.

01:02:59.123 --> 01:03:04.248
Yeah, reindeer, voles squirrels, sure.

01:03:05.829 --> 01:03:09.092
So yeah, potentially a lot of different wildlife.

01:03:09.596 --> 01:03:18.885
Yeah, honey badgers these wounds are very similar to the type of trauma that results from a shock or a bomb.

01:03:20.047 --> 01:03:20.327
Really.

01:03:20.989 --> 01:03:21.208
Yes.

01:03:25.815 --> 01:03:26.934
I mean I'd like to disagree but okay.

01:03:26.934 --> 01:03:28.804
We'll talk about theories.

01:03:28.824 --> 01:03:29.873
We'll talk about it.

01:03:29.873 --> 01:03:35.534
Both Zolotaryov and Dubomina had an interesting pattern of injuries.

01:03:35.534 --> 01:03:42.405
They were both similar in direction and force, despite their shape, their height, their body composition.

01:03:42.405 --> 01:03:51.472
And also, with Zolotaryov, Semyon Zolotaryov he most likely did not die of the cold.

01:03:51.472 --> 01:03:55.585
Oh, he was well-dressed and he had burka shoes.

01:03:56.135 --> 01:03:57.119
What are burka shoes?

01:03:57.454 --> 01:04:03.726
They're just like really insulated-type boots that are so pretty in russia.

01:04:03.726 --> 01:04:07.858
Okay, um, he also was found with a camera around his neck.

01:04:07.858 --> 01:04:09.201
Now, what's weird?

01:04:09.201 --> 01:04:22.304
Yuri yudin, the one who turned back yeah he said that there were only four cameras and this would be number five, he did not know that this one existed.

01:04:22.364 --> 01:04:26.070
Well, I mean, it's possible, he just didn't know.

01:04:26.070 --> 01:04:27.820
It's possible, he just didn't.

01:04:27.820 --> 01:04:29.481
It doesn't seem like he's lying.

01:04:29.655 --> 01:04:31.335
You're operating as a group right.

01:04:31.335 --> 01:04:36.463
So you know, there's a couple cameras floating around if you hit that perfect photo op.

01:04:36.463 --> 01:04:40.425
But I mean, maybe they all look the same.

01:04:40.855 --> 01:04:41.637
I mean very possible.

01:04:41.737 --> 01:04:45.505
Maybe they're all just atypical black cameras, who knows?

01:04:45.867 --> 01:04:51.277
Right but it just seems weird that I don't know what sucks is.

01:04:51.277 --> 01:04:55.443
The melting water around his body damaged the film.

01:04:55.804 --> 01:05:00.110
Of course, and we're sure of that right Because no one would lie about that.

01:05:01.030 --> 01:05:13.297
No, Now speaking of lying, we of never had photographing evidence that we've never hit speaking of yeah, never never, apparently he also had a pen and paper in his hand at the time of death.

01:05:13.476 --> 01:05:21.965
Really, one of the rescuers recalled that colonel or t off or t of cough, sorry, I don't know.

01:05:21.965 --> 01:05:33.065
He grabbed the notepad, looked at it, cursed and said, cursed, dropped a cheese ball I dropped a cheese ball he said quote.

01:05:33.065 --> 01:05:44.949
He's written nothing, end quote so to this day, he seems to have been the only person to have seen this notebook, and it was never filed into evidence.

01:05:45.695 --> 01:05:47.302
So basically, it's your say.

01:05:47.302 --> 01:05:48.860
How is that possible, though?

01:05:49.315 --> 01:05:51.384
That makes no fucking sense it doesn't.

01:05:51.384 --> 01:05:55.346
So the question is was it blank?

01:05:55.346 --> 01:05:57.342
No one can account for that.

01:05:57.576 --> 01:05:59.463
No, because no one's seen it but him.

01:06:00.054 --> 01:06:06.257
Is it blank because it was actually blank, or did the elements wash it away?

01:06:06.257 --> 01:06:08.762
Like you're writing with a fucking pencil, right?

01:06:08.762 --> 01:06:14.378
Right so could be that it was exposed to sun, the paper degraded.

01:06:14.378 --> 01:06:18.563
It was two months, quality of lead in russia, 1959.

01:06:18.563 --> 01:06:21.746
So there's a lot of variables there, right?

01:06:21.746 --> 01:06:22.088
No?

01:06:22.088 --> 01:06:37.699
100, it just seems really odd, but it's interesting to me that someone experienced something right at the point they are about to die and is like I need to write this.

01:06:37.780 --> 01:06:44.750
The fuck down I don't think that it's like uh, I'm leaving a letter for my loved ones.

01:06:44.750 --> 01:06:55.480
This is like my final memoir right, right 100 this is like, uh, I need to leave a clue about something and this is fucking highly important.

01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:08.940
So the fact that it is not in evidence of any kind or documented is interesting to me yeah, because in essence, he was trying to find a way for it to live past exactly this time.

01:07:08.940 --> 01:07:10.764
So yeah, that's strange.

01:07:10.804 --> 01:07:19.137
Yeah, I get that okay, so the next person found in this ravine was alexander kolevatov okay okay, he was 24.

01:07:19.137 --> 01:07:22.358
His clothing was also radioactive.

01:07:22.358 --> 01:07:32.985
His upper torso was protected by a sleeveless shirt, a long-sleeved shirt, sweater fleece, sweater ski jacket, but it was unzipped.

01:07:33.465 --> 01:07:34.686
Okay.

01:07:34.726 --> 01:07:36.746
His ski jacket was damaged.

01:07:36.746 --> 01:07:40.929
He had a big hole on the left sleeve with burnt edges.

01:07:40.929 --> 01:07:46.090
Okay, his right sleeve was also damaged and several tears were found.

01:07:46.090 --> 01:07:49.172
His jacket was unbuttoned and unzipped.

01:07:49.532 --> 01:07:49.952
Oh shit.

01:07:54.157 --> 01:07:56.523
He had woolen socks, no shoes.

01:07:56.523 --> 01:08:01.581
He had a broken nose Okay, broken nose, okay.

01:08:01.581 --> 01:08:26.899
And in this, this is where one of those like weird things on the same website doesn't make sense yeah on dietlovepasscom, it said that he had a deformed neck and another part of the website same website it said he had a snapped neck deformed neck I feel like that could mean a visible deformity.

01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.204
I mean it very well which could be a snapped neck.

01:08:30.365 --> 01:08:37.327
Yes, so deformed is a little bit more generic snapped is a little bit more specific, but it's just kind of it's odd.

01:08:37.327 --> 01:08:47.210
So he also had an open wound behind his ear, a, a three by point or, excuse me, a three by one point five centimeter wound, yep.

01:08:47.210 --> 01:08:53.938
His autopsy was also lacking a ton of details from the I'm shocked.

01:08:53.938 --> 01:08:57.067
Are you Lastly?

01:08:57.067 --> 01:08:58.518
Not at all.

01:08:59.622 --> 01:09:00.083
Not at all.

01:09:00.083 --> 01:09:01.421
Skeptical, bitch over here.

01:09:03.775 --> 01:09:06.685
Lastly, we have Nikolai Sobobrignol.

01:09:06.904 --> 01:09:07.126
Yeah.

01:09:08.256 --> 01:09:12.143
It was suggested that he and Zolotaryov might have been outside the tent at the time.

01:09:12.143 --> 01:09:14.828
The whatever fucking happened happened.

01:09:15.109 --> 01:09:15.408
Okay.

01:09:15.635 --> 01:09:24.667
The time of the event, it was suggested that they both had to go pee, and so that's why they were so well dressed compared to the others that they were outside peeing.

01:09:24.667 --> 01:09:30.139
But both of them were much better prepared than the rest of the group.

01:09:30.139 --> 01:09:37.645
They both wore hand-mitten woolen socks and a pair of felt boots Felt boots.

01:09:37.645 --> 01:09:45.586
Weird Thibaut Brignol had a deep, depressed, multi-splintered fracture in his skull.

01:09:46.408 --> 01:09:46.747
Okay.

01:09:47.336 --> 01:09:58.782
The medical examiner said these theories would not have been the result of Nicolay simply falling from the level of his own height, but falling and hitting his head at a deeper, deeper depth.

01:09:58.782 --> 01:10:28.908
So this kind of injury could have only occurred if he had been thrown into the air, sure, and his head hit against the rocks okay yeah, lack of damage to the soft tissue showed that he could not have been hit by someone with a rock by someone's hand well, right, I mean, look at it okay this kind of trauma could have occurred if Thibaut Brignol had been thrown and fallen and hit his head against rocks, ice, etc.

01:10:29.007 --> 01:10:30.850
by the gust of a strong wind.

01:10:31.091 --> 01:10:31.310
Right.

01:10:31.310 --> 01:10:35.185
Like a 75 mile an hour wind, I would say so Give or take, yeah.

01:10:36.155 --> 01:10:43.832
He probably would have had a severe concussion and could have only had shown signs of life for about two to three hours before death.

01:10:44.975 --> 01:10:47.702
Again probably felt like fucking years for him.

01:10:47.702 --> 01:10:48.143
Yes.

01:10:48.222 --> 01:10:48.423
No.

01:10:48.484 --> 01:10:49.206
I mean fuck.

01:10:49.206 --> 01:10:54.904
I think at that point you'd probably be limited in your motor function.

01:10:55.145 --> 01:10:59.072
Yeah Right, everything you can't move and you're freezing.

01:10:59.072 --> 01:11:17.675
Yep so this is where the facts end and then next is where the theories start, fuck yeah what scared the hikers so much that they had to cut themselves out of the tent?

01:11:17.675 --> 01:11:21.904
And this is pure speculation and clearly it's, it's aliens, yeah.

01:11:22.465 --> 01:11:28.546
And walk Radioactivity Walk single file calmly down the hill.

01:11:30.096 --> 01:11:31.962
Do we know they were calmly or they just walk?

01:11:31.962 --> 01:11:32.524
Single file.

01:11:33.475 --> 01:11:34.779
Question about the footprints.

01:11:35.081 --> 01:11:36.765
Yeah, it's about the footprints, yeah.

01:11:37.074 --> 01:11:55.530
Like seriously I don't know, I mean forensic people can chime in here here, but how do you tell that steps are like even keeled and calm versus I would say if you're running, you're dragging your feet these are larger stride steps, yeah these are most clearly steps.

01:11:55.551 --> 01:11:56.373
No, I get that.

01:11:56.373 --> 01:12:01.244
However, there can be variations and I would assume so how?

01:12:01.244 --> 01:12:01.926
How do you know?

01:12:02.167 --> 01:12:03.109
But all of them.

01:12:03.194 --> 01:12:08.681
It might be like everybody's in a fucking panic, but we need to remain calm.

01:12:08.681 --> 01:12:14.180
Situation Like we don't know the speed they're walking, but it could be calmly right.

01:12:14.402 --> 01:12:15.385
So, Yep.

01:12:15.385 --> 01:12:18.015
There's no signs of struggle.

01:12:18.395 --> 01:12:28.943
There's no like hardcore external injury, just minor abrasions there's not like animal activity, there's not like a visible animal attack.

01:12:29.144 --> 01:12:47.284
No, no there's no watch right, there's no claw marks, there's no bite marks, there's nothing it's a hundred percent yeti, yeah, um the the thing is, though, obviously there's eyes and tongue, and whatever we're missing Very, very, very well could have been an animal.

01:12:47.284 --> 01:12:49.759
Because they don't know better.

01:12:49.759 --> 01:12:51.181
They're like ooh.

01:12:51.743 --> 01:12:52.445
Delicious snack.

01:12:52.445 --> 01:12:55.823
Oh yeah, eyeballs, they're up there for survival as well, I'm fucking hungry.

01:12:56.435 --> 01:12:58.081
That's like gold in the desert, you know?

01:12:58.081 --> 01:13:06.927
Water in the desert, yeah, and people don't want to blame it on animals because it's not someone to blame, it's not a malicious thing.

01:13:06.927 --> 01:13:15.876
It's, it's not malicious it's just animals, being animals well, an animal doesn't hit someone with the force of 75 miles an hour and destroy ribs.

01:13:17.257 --> 01:13:25.140
No, no, I mean maybe, whereas somebody could be like, um, let me move you animal, I'm 75 miles per hour and I go.

01:13:25.140 --> 01:13:30.243
No, they don't fucking know the difference between 75, 85, 20.

01:13:30.243 --> 01:13:32.007
It doesn't matter, they just don't know.

01:13:32.756 --> 01:13:34.483
So I don't know.

01:13:34.483 --> 01:13:38.546
So our next episode is going to be about the theories.

01:13:38.546 --> 01:13:42.823
Theories yeah, there's so many fucking theories, they have 76 theories out there.

01:13:42.823 --> 01:13:56.143
Yeah, well, there's so many fucking theories, they have 76 theories out there, oh my god we're going to talk about eight of them maybe, maybe 12 if I throw a few but please for the love of god, not 76.

01:13:56.143 --> 01:14:00.837
We're not going to talk about 76 I think about 76, but that's fine.

01:14:02.140 --> 01:14:03.345
That's how my brain works.

01:14:04.114 --> 01:14:06.884
Well, Audra, thank you so much for being here.

01:14:07.034 --> 01:14:08.641
Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.

01:14:08.795 --> 01:14:14.886
Yes, we will resume with our theories with Audra and Bradley, as always.

01:14:14.886 --> 01:14:17.677
Cheers, I've got an empty beer.

01:14:17.677 --> 01:14:18.279
I don't.

01:14:18.461 --> 01:14:19.462
My mom was empty.

01:14:19.462 --> 01:14:25.979
Cheers, audra, you're not drinking, but cheers nonetheless, and thank you for being here and this has been fun.

01:14:25.979 --> 01:14:28.779
And let's get into some fucking theories.

01:14:28.779 --> 01:14:31.426
Hell yeah, Welp, I suppose.

01:14:31.426 --> 01:14:33.900
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