March 30, 2026

Ethical Conundrum: Would You Rather

Ethical Conundrum: Would You Rather
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Kate’s running on a cold, Bradley’s trying to fill in, and somehow that turns into one of our most chaotic History Buffoons hangouts yet. It starts with a Wisconsin detour to Rebellion Brewing Company in Cedarburg, where we meet great people, taste a lineup of beers, and fall hard for a vanilla porter that has no business being that smooth.

Then we flip the switch into a rapid-fire “would you rather” game pulled from our weird history catalog, and the questions get uncomfortably real. Would you rather be Ignaz Semmelweis trying to convince doctors to wash their hands, or be a patient before anyone believes him? Would you rather survive the Tunguska event only to sound insane afterward, assist Robert Liston during a speed surgery, or try to clear a town like Centralia while the mine fire burns underground?

We keep pushing through big, famous stories and darker corners of history: Operation Mincemeat and wartime deception, Andersonville Prison and moral compromise, the Oregon Trail and leadership blame, the Belgica expedition and psychological collapse, Howard Carter opening Tutankhamun’s tomb, the Children’s Blizzard of 1888, Elizabeth Bathory’s legend, the 1925 serum run to Nome with Balto and Togo, Dyatlov Pass theories, the Black Sox scandal, Nero’s performances, and the Radium Girls tragedy. It’s funny, messy, and weirdly revealing, because every choice forces one question: what would you do to survive?

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00:00 - Colds And Accidental Sleepy Medicine

01:55 - Wisconsin Beer Adventure At Rebellion

06:26 - Would You Rather Game Setup

06:57 - Semmelweis And The Case For Handwashing

09:20 - Tunguska, Liston, And Centralia Choices

15:10 - Operation Mincemeat And Wartime Deception

18:51 - Prison Camps And The Oregon Trail

24:15 - Antarctic Isolation And Tutankhamun’s Tomb

28:49 - Children’s Blizzard And Bathory’s Legend

33:27 - Serum Run, Dyatlov, And Baseball Betrayal

44:59 - Nero, Radium Girls, And Moral Survival

51:03 - Rebellion Brewing Shoutouts And Farewell

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Oh, hey there.

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Oh, hey there.

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How are you today?

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I'm good.

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I'm Kate.

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I'm Bradley.

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This is the History Buffoons.

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We're uh doing a weird episode where I'm gonna run the whole thing.

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I don't know what's coming.

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More or less I'm gonna run the whole thing.

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Um, I'll be honest, I don't either.

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What are we gonna do?

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Adventure! I mean, we gotta try and keep it, I don't know, weird, right?

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Well, I am going on day six, maybe day seven, of having a cold.

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You sure are.

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And I've been kicking your ass.

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Yeah, and I just took a nighttime medicine, thinking it was a nighttime medicine, when in fact it's just a sleepy medicine.

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So do you want to tell them what I said to you when you took it?

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What did you say?

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You know that's just for sleeping, right?

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I know.

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I was like, wait, what?

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I was like, there's no medicine in this thing for cold for a cold.

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Because I was like, I've been day quilling and night and night quilling, and someone suggested to me maybe try a different kind.

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So I was like, I'll do day quill and then z quill.

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Yep.

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Nope, it's just sleepy meds.

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Yeah.

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So we'll see how far we're gonna see if we can get through this episode without her falling asleep.

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Now, in her defense, she's allowed.

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I've almost done it, where we've had some day beers, and I'm like, come on.

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By the end of the episode, and it's nothing wrong with the episode, it's just that's me.

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Anyway, so um, before we get into that, I don't want to close my computer and fuck up the thing again, but um we like to try beers, and so it's yesterday we went on a little adventure.

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I could I could literally do the let me tell you a little story about Brad and Diane.

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It's a little ditty, oh yeah, a little ditty, little ditty about Brad and Diane from Grafton, yes, Wisconsin.

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So they gave we we went to go get a some lunch because I was starving after work, and um, we were in Grafton and we met these nice people.

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They do this Ducky Derby race, uh, every Kentucky Derby, the last five years, I think they said.

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So shout out to them and their their ducky derby.

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They raise money for a lot of different things.

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I don't remember even everything that he was telling us.

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Um, it was a lot of money for um um developmentally challenged that's right learners, I believe.

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Something like that, yeah.

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Which is they do a lot of cool things, so yeah, shout out to a lot of sensory stuff and playgrounds and yeah, a whole bunch of stuff.

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I don't remember if they did they have a name for their thing or I don't remember.

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If they did, I apologize.

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I don't recall either.

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But, anyways, while we got to talking to them, they told us about this little place in Cedarberg, which is very close to Grafton.

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Actually, it was more or less just down the road from where we were, and they gave us a couple of free drink drink chips, which is something you weren't familiar with from your youth, right?

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Very big Wisconsin thing, so a lot of people know that.

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But um so we went to this place and it's called um Rebellion Brewing Company.

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I'll show you this first, because we met Dale, who they sent us to see.

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Um, very nice guy.

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He's he was the owner, right?

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He's the owner of it, if I'm not mistaken.

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Um, but he also has been brewing beer for it sounds like quite some time.

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And so we were just chatting, tried a few whole bunch of different beers, actually.

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Oh my gosh, this the amount of samples that he gave us, and just each one had a little story with it, which was so cool.

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Um, but I thought it was really neat.

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He even on the back um personalized a little note to us saying, Hey, Caden Bradley, thanks for the support.

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Cheers, Dale.

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So this goes out to Dale, yeah, uh, from Rebellion Brewing Company in Cedarberg, Wisconsin.

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Yeah, and he had just put on uh we're not usually dark beer people, um, but he put on a vanilla porter that was just absolutely delicious.

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Like, and I am a lager person, so this was like surprising to me.

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But this is the other vanilla porter.

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It is so freaking good.

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We had to get a growler.

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Was that no?

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This is a growler.

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A crowler is one of those individual cans that they seal at the place.

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Uh, so we got a growler.

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He was able to find us one, and it's shit.

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Even that's got a cool little story.

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I'm trying not to spill stuff.

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All right, so he has it with their sticker on the back, but on the front is uh, was it again?

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Silver Creek Brewing Company, which is what used to be in the place where Rebellion now is.

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So it's got a little historic thing too.

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So yeah, it was a very, very cool place.

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Right on the river, right on the river.

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And I don't even know if that's just a Cedarberger.

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I don't remember the name.

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But um so delicious.

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It smells there's a strong smell of vanilla, but it's not overpowering, like it's just the right amount.

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It balances really good once you drink it, too.

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Yeah, the taste, it's just so good.

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He did such a good job.

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Yeah, so shout out, Dale.

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Uh, we appreciate your hospitality yesterday.

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We had a lot of fun visiting.

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And and I have half of a blast because I'm on sleepy meds.

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Yeah.

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Now, uh, shout out to uh Megan the bartender, too.

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She was awesome.

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Yeah.

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Um Donna from Piggly Wiggly, who sat next to us.

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She had her name take still on, and I'm like, Hey Donna.

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I said something like, Oh, come on, Donna.

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And she just looks at me like, how the fuck do you know my name?

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It's because your name takes on.

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But she was really nice too.

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Um, anyways, so we're gonna do something, and I'll I'll I'll weigh in, obviously, too, but these are gonna be more directed towards Kate.

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Um, it's almost kind of uh just a bunch of would you rathers from picked from stories from that we've we've done.

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Okay.

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So these these are gonna be interesting, um, because I don't know, some of them.

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Well, I haven't even gone over all of them myself because I kind of wanted to be surprised and react to them.

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Yeah.

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So the first would you rather?

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Um, now again, we'll try and I'll do my best and try and re uh tell you what episodes these were from and everything, too.

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But would you rather be the doctor trying to convince people to wash their hands like Ignaz Semmelweiss did, or be one of the patients before people believed him?

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Because because either you're you're either ignored or you're dead.

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You're ignored or you're dead.

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Yeah, because Ignaz Semmelweiss, um people did not believe him.

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Yeah.

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And he kind of went batshit towards the end of his life.

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He did, yeah, went went fucking crazy.

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But that is from an origin of weird story.

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So what what would you how would you have convinced people to be like, hey, wash your hands?

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Um, okay, so as a doctor, I would assume that I've got a level of authority in my treatment room, especially back then.

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Yeah, so we were very highly regarded.

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Yeah, it's like, no, go clean the dirt from out underneath your fingernails.

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Gross.

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And yeah, it's just common sense.

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I mean, we feel like it's common sense back then, but we're from a different time.

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This is before they knew what the consequences actually were, and that's why he had to convince people to be like, hey, maybe we should wash our hands before we stick them out in somebody's body right after taking some cadavers off.

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Yeah, so what happened was um doctors were doing autopsies, didn't wash their hands before delivering babies, and then the women got childbed fever and ended up passing away.

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Yep.

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And it was more deadly to deliver in the hospital than it was for midwives.

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I don't know if the mid, I don't remember if the midwives were just washing their hands or just, oh, they weren't doing the autopsies.

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That's what it was.

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The windwites weren't doing autopsies.

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So they weren't getting the dead flesh on their hands and spreading it into the the women.

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Um, but I'm gonna say I'm gonna I'm gonna I would rather be Ignaz Sembelweiss and just Of course you would, because you don't want to die.

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You don't want to be one of the people who were one of the patients before people believed in him.

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Oh, I just spilled a little with my half empty glass.

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Oh my god.

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That's skill.

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Sleepy meds are kicking in.

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All right.

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Uh second, would you rather be trapped in the Tunguska, I'm sure I'm saying it wrong, event blast zone, or have to explain what just happened to people afterward with zero evidence.

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Because either way, you sound insane.

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So either be in the blast zone or explain to somebody what happened in the blast zone.

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I will tell you this before you even answer.

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I would have to try, I would want to try and explain because you saw what those tree what happened to those trees.

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They were demolished.

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You would not be there.

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Oh gosh, well, that would have ripped you apart.

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What was Tungusta?

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Was that a meteor?

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No, that was just something that they never really they I mean, they think it was a meteor, then there was some theories that it was a uh uh aliens and all that crap and whatever, but that's that's from another origin, a weird one, yeah.

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Um, where basically like I've also heard the rumor that it was from um uh Nikola Tesla shooting up.

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I don't remember if we mentioned that.

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Was it that one?

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That was that one, yeah.

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Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right.

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But um, no, we're gonna be the ones trying to explain, like, no aliens were here, man.

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I guarantee it.

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Well the the grays stop by exactly, and they're like big ass eyes, and they're like, we don't like these trees.

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I mean, how would you ex how would you explain that?

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Especially because it was wasn't that 1908 or something like that?

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Really?

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I don't know, man.

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I just give or take to just walk in the woods.

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Well, actually, I think it look at me go, 1908.

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Good job.

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All right, yeah, I would have to be the one trying to explain because I would not want to get obliterated by that in Siberia, somewhere like that.

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Yeah, it's up in Russia, but I think Siberia that sounds right.

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All right, um this one's funny to me.

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Would you rather be forced to assist in one of Robert Liston's speed surgeries?

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Oh gosh.

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Or be the patient during one of them.

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Robert Liston.

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He had the 300% mortality rate in one in one setting.

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Yeah.

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Oh gosh, he nicked the the patient's artery.

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I think that's right, if I remember right.

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Someone went into shock and then he nicked someone else.

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I don't know what to do.

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She cut his assistant on accident or something because he's like, I don't know, trying to do a world record.

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Who the fuck?

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I still don't understand what his thought process was behind that.

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Oh my gosh.

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Um because I think I'd rather just run away.

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So what was the first one?

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Be forced to assist.

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Be forced to assist.

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I I well it depends.

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Am I the one getting cut?

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Well, I think you have a better chance of being the assistant than the patient, personally.

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But um I think either way you're kind of fucked in that situation.

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I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with his assistant and then all and then uh his I would make sure that his name was lived on in infamy.

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Oh god.

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I think I would do the same, but Robert Liston.

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Was that another origin of Weird?

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Uh yeah.

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Whoops, sorry about that there.

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Alright.

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Yeah, a lot of these tended to be a good chunk of origin.

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That's right.

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Would you rather be stuck in the town during the Centralia mine fire or be the guy trying to convince everyone to leave?

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Ooh.

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Because some people didn't want to leave.

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Yeah, so there was um uh a mine fire underneath the town of Centralia, Pennsylvania.

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And there still is.

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There still is.

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Yep.

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And uh the government tried to like force everyone out force everyone out for their safety, and several stayed.

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Yeah, but and then they got hosed on their pricing anyways.

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Yeah, and then um once they died, their their property went to the government.

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Right.

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It didn't get passed down from family.

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Yeah, you you couldn't like, so let's say I was your kid, for example, and you lived in Centralia, you couldn't will it to mean right, it would go to the government, yeah.

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So they could finally have like all control over that land.

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Okay, so live in Centralia as a no be stuck in to in the town during the fire.

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So you're like here because there's fires everywhere.

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Yeah.

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I know a lot of it's underground, but you have to or you have to try and convince everyone to leave.

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So you gotta basically be stuck in town, stay there, like some of those people did.

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Or it would be a I think it would be a really hard job to try to convince people.

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Well, especially if they live there, like you said, for generations or whatever.

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It's underground, it's like it's not gonna come up, you know, whatever.

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I mean, won't it though?

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I don't know.

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What would you think?

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I'd I want to try and convince everyone to leave.

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Yeah.

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I don't think I'd want to stay there.

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You know how warm I get.

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I mean, it's freaking And you're a salesperson, like you could you could make that happen.

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Maybe.

00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:38.799
I'm also a big guy.

00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:39.679
I could make that happen.

00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:40.799
Yeah, you could.

00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.399
I'm sure I'd run into somebody bigger than me, like, nope, you can stay.

00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:47.440
No, you're good.

00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:50.399
I won't I won't bother you any longer.

00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.759
So y'all not falling asleep yet?

00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:54.480
No, I'm good.

00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:57.919
Just my cough, which I apologize uh to listeners.

00:14:58.879 --> 00:14:59.519
And me.

00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:01.840
I apologize to you rather.

00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:03.360
Jesus Christ.

00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.840
Only once I said it.

00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:08.879
Okay.

00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:10.879
Alright.

00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:25.120
Um would you rather be part of the crew transporting the body in Operation Mince Meat or be the person who has to sell that plan to your boss?

00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:27.840
And it's like, hey boss, hear me out.

00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:34.879
Operation Mince Meat was our first Origin of Weird episode, and it was it was a good story.

00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:35.919
I really liked it.

00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:40.879
Um that movie was awesome too, with uh your your boy uh Colin Firth.

00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:41.360
Yes.

00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:49.759
Um, so what happened was the the English government, like a secret part of the military, yeah, whatever.

00:15:50.399 --> 00:16:03.759
Um found a cadaver, dressed him up as a military personnel with fake intel, and then put the body in water so that I think it was just Germany at Sicily.

00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:05.679
Germany was in Sicily or something.

00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.639
But they but they put it over in Spain.

00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:09.600
Do you remember that?

00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:10.879
Oh, I thought it was Sicily.

00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.440
No, well, no, Sicily is the the Intel.

00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:20.720
The intel was try to get the uh the German troops out of Sicily and go to Greece, I forgot.

00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.080
Yeah, so the body went to Spain with the fake intel and it and it worked.

00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:26.559
Yep.

00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:33.120
The the uh Germans believed that the Intel was correct, and the troops came out of Sicily.

00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:38.399
And I just can't believe, like, could you imagine being like, okay, I got this crazy idea.

00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:38.879
Uh-huh.

00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:40.080
Let's do this.

00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:42.559
And they'll be like, Are you fucking serious?

00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:46.639
But people took them seriously, they did it, and I can't believe it worked.

00:16:46.879 --> 00:17:01.279
Like the fact that they moved the German army out of Sicily, or not the whole thing, yeah, a good chunk of it to make it attackable for us to get a nice strong hold on that on that island.

00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:10.000
And basically it's it was didn't they use it as kind of like a operation point where they sent off other supplies or supplies?

00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:10.480
I don't remember.

00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:11.599
I'm trying to blank now.

00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:14.160
That's I feel bad, but um okay.

00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:15.359
So what were the two?

00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.240
Be part of the crew transporting the body.

00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:21.759
I would have to be in the ocean for that, which I guess emotion sick.

00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:22.559
Okay, what was the other one?

00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.839
Be the person who has to sell that plan to your boss.

00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:30.319
Oh man.

00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.720
Either one, I don't think, are bad options.

00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:43.759
No, but I don't convince people very well, so I think I'd probably be better off in the water puking over this side, trying to deliver this catacomb.

00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:45.119
I'd say what would you be doing?

00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.039
You would just be throwing up all the time.

00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:47.599
Yeah.

00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:54.480
You're not what you would call a uh strong stomached person, traveler, yeah.

00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:56.480
Even in cars you get that way.

00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.720
I mean, it doesn't have to be on a boat.

00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.960
I think I would try and sell that plan to my boss.

00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:05.119
You have a better personality for that.

00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:06.079
Maybe, yeah.

00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:06.400
Yeah.

00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:11.519
Um but like still crazy to me how that worked.

00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:16.880
But yeah, I'd be like, we convinced them this would be huge, but it's a huge gamble.

00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:24.079
That was probably one of my first no, that was the first origin of weird story, but that was probably also one of my favorites origin of weird stories.

00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:25.119
Uh same.

00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.279
Uh that was a strong one to start out with.

00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:27.680
Yeah.

00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:32.400
And then you told me about the movie because you watched that, so I watched it too.

00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.720
I don't think we always talked about re-watching it.

00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:36.559
I don't think we ever got around to doing it again.

00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:41.680
But um no, but if you haven't seen the movie with Colin for it is called Operation Mincemeat.

00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:42.240
Yeah.

00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:44.400
Um excellent, excellent movie.

00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:45.200
Great movie.

00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.880
And I rather rather enjoyed the story.

00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.039
So all right.

00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:54.400
Would you rather be a prisoner at Andersonville Prison?

00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:55.119
No.

00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.039
Or be the guard knowing how bad bad it is.

00:18:59.279 --> 00:18:59.599
Oh.

00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:06.000
If I'm the guard, I'm also the bad guy.

00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.079
Apparently, I spilled too.

00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:09.839
What is up with this?

00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:15.039
If I'm if I'm a guard, that means I'm on the the bad side of the law.

00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:17.599
Well, again, you can look at it.

00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:22.079
They were doing what they were told and all that whatever, blah blah blah.

00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:23.440
Oh, I don't know.

00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:33.039
It kind of makes me feel like a really horrible human being to like know all this disgust is happening at Andersonville, which I think is in Georgia.

00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:33.759
Yes.

00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.079
Um, during the Civil War.

00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:36.720
Yep.

00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:46.559
Um, but then again, I would be treated better than the prisoners of war had to go through.

00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:48.480
See, and that's the thing.

00:19:48.720 --> 00:20:04.319
You would at least, I mean, yeah, it would suck to have that on your conscience, but fuck you would be treated so so much better than if you I don't know, tried to be a prisoner there.

00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:05.279
I mean, fuck that.

00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:10.079
Nowhere to nowhere to go to the bathroom, no clean food, clothes.

00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.960
You had what was that like kill line or whatever?

00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:14.720
Yeah, you couldn't go past that.

00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:22.000
Yeah, there was a quote unquote invisible line, but it was fairly clear that it was a boundary of this prison.

00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:23.759
It was an outdoor prison.

00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:29.519
Um, and uh if you accidentally stepped over that line, they would instantly kill you.

00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:38.240
Yeah, which even if you accidentally got like pushed into it, like they didn't care they'd kill you just to keep people within this tight facility, if you will.

00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:39.680
Um I don't know.

00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:46.319
I had read the journal of James Skaden, who was the prisoner of war.

00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:52.000
That's how we kind of um talked about Andersonville, was through his eyes.

00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:52.880
For sure.

00:20:53.119 --> 00:21:06.880
Um I remember I remember something very distinctive about that that story, and it was to entertain themselves, they would pick lice from their scalp and and put them in the fire and they pop.

00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:08.559
So gross.

00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:11.839
I mean, that is so freaking gross.

00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:21.680
I mean, I would not want so I'm gonna have to say, um, I'd rather be a guard, but you know, I'm gonna be a guard with a good conscience.

00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.759
If they cross a kill, and I'm not gonna kill them.

00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.279
Well, that's so kind of you.

00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:31.920
I mean, I say well, I do declare.

00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:32.559
Woo!

00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:33.599
What?

00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:36.480
Getting to the porter part of the vanilla.

00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:37.440
The porter part?

00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:38.000
Uh-huh.

00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:39.440
Porter part.

00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:40.799
So what does that mean exactly?

00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:42.559
It's a little strong.

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:43.759
Well, you know.

00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:47.440
Like the first couple of steps is just like it's so smooth.

00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:48.400
That vanilla?

00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.960
Yeah, now that it's been sitting here, and I'm still, you know, working on half a glass is all.

00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:53.440
Yep.

00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:55.759
But it's just whoo who all right.

00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:56.720
What else you got?

00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:58.000
Let's see here.

00:21:59.039 --> 00:21:59.519
All right.

00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.519
We did Andersonville.

00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:02.559
All right.

00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:12.720
Would you rather be stuck on the Oregon Trail with no skills or be the person in charge of making decisions for the group?

00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:16.640
Because pretty much you're either useless or you're blamed for everything.

00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:17.519
Yeah.

00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.000
I think I would rather.

00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:22.160
Oh boy.

00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:33.359
Because I feel like I would not be able to add anything to the for the people because you had no skills, it would be I'd feel like dead weight.

00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.680
Well, yeah, and I'd feel worthless and be like, they could get rid of me at any time.

00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:40.799
Because I literally bring no value to this trip.

00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:41.279
Yeah.

00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:50.640
But you're also, if you're the guy who's um you know, in charge making the decisions, you told us good to go to the Donner Pass, man.

00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:51.359
What the fuck?

00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:51.839
Yeah.

00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.480
Even though it wasn't called that that back then.

00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:55.839
But you know what I mean?

00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:56.640
Yeah.

00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:57.519
I don't know.

00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:00.559
I I think you'd rather be useless.

00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:01.519
No.

00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:07.119
But I feel like even if you were useless on the Oregon Trail, you'd still pick up stuff.

00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.920
You know, you'd still be able to to help in some way.

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:16.000
I've met some pretty useless people in my life, unfortunately.

00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:17.440
They just take up space.

00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:19.359
They literally just take up space.

00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:24.559
They have they don't pick up anything along the way, so I know where you're going with that.

00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:26.319
However.

00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:30.240
Ooh, sleeping meds.

00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.200
Maybe I accidentally got some of your sleeping meds.

00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:36.000
Sorry.

00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:39.039
Big yawn.

00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:40.720
Parched mouth.

00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:44.720
Anywho.

00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:47.359
So what?

00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:50.799
What would you pick?

00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.680
I'll be dead weight.

00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.720
Just wake me up when we get there.

00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:00.960
Wake me up before you go go?

00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:03.680
Alright.

00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.880
Um I'm gonna skip that one.

00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.200
Let's do.

00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:12.720
Oh, dear.

00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:19.279
Would you rather be one of the sailors slowly losing it on the Belgica expedition?

00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.960
Or be the guy trying to convince everyone they're definitely fine.

00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:24.880
No, no, no.

00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:25.839
You're fine.

00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:26.720
We got this.

00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.240
We got plenty of penguins.

00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:30.319
I mean, here's a fin.

00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:31.440
Just roasted.

00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.359
I'll be the optimistic.

00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:33.920
Yeah?

00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:34.960
Yeah, the optimist.

00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:35.200
Yeah.

00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:36.079
I'll be the optimist.

00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:38.640
I don't I don't think I'd want to lose it.

00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:39.200
No.

00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:40.240
That would suck.

00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:44.079
Unless like losing it is a little bit more like euphoric.

00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:45.039
Oh.

00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:45.759
Yeah.

00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.799
That's well, one of them tried to just walk off into the ice, like on the ice floor.

00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:52.160
It's like, no, I see my house over there.

00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:52.960
I'm just gonna walk out.

00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:53.519
Yeah, dude.

00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.119
Like hallucinate, yeah.

00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:55.599
Yeah.

00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.799
So I I don't think I could, I don't think I'd want to slowly lose it.

00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:04.799
And then other people would feel responsible for you to kind of keep you in line so you don't do something like that.

00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:07.279
So you're being even more of a burden.

00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.160
Yeah, I'm definitely gonna be the other the optimist then.

00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:17.279
But then depending on how many people are losing it, they'd be like, dude, shut the fuck up.

00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:18.160
We're not fine.

00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:19.200
We're not fine.

00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:26.319
Then they're like, dude, we gotta get this guy, then tie him up and like out on the fucking ice or something, and have penguins pecking at you.

00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:26.799
I don't know.

00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:30.559
I don't know if they do that, but um, but you know what I mean?

00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.480
Yeah, some people could start going the other way, even though, yes, look at me.

00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:45.359
I'm the half class, half full guy or whatever, and now I'm getting tied up to the mask because people are getting sick of my shenanigans.

00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:47.759
Well, your positive morale.

00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:48.720
I don't know.

00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:50.480
I don't know.

00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:55.359
I mean, I'd still probably pick the positive morale guy.

00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.759
Is he a pa is he an optimist or is he is he a liar?

00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.440
Oh boy, that is a good question.

00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:04.799
Everything's fine.

00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:05.680
Liar.

00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:07.200
I'm fine, it's fine.

00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:08.079
Everything's fine.

00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:09.839
All right.

00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:21.359
Uh would you rather be present when Howard Carter opens the tomb or show up a week later after everyone starts talking about a curse?

00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.680
Which we all know nothing like that was actually true.

00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:32.640
No, oh my gosh, to be a part of that would be fucking amazing.

00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:33.680
So amazing.

00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:36.160
I'm gonna national treasure that shit.

00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.359
I'm gonna go to the preservation room.

00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.759
Where do they make delicious jams and jellies?

00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.640
No, that's where they store it, but yeah.

00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:46.319
They don't make it there.

00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:50.000
Yeah, I think I would I would want to be there that day.

00:26:50.240 --> 00:27:00.000
Well except for every time that they had to quote unquote wrap up the season of the digging season, they had to re-bury everything.

00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.559
Which is just fucking wild.

00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.799
I'm not one for manor labor, so no, you're not.

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.519
A part of me is like, maybe I'll wait a week.

00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:21.039
Well, and obviously back then, you know, this is a hundred years ago, they didn't know about the curse stuff and whatever.

00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:27.119
And that's like how like Benny gets all beware of the curse, you know, whatever, and the mummy and so on.

00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:28.240
The curse.

00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.559
Yes, but like now we know it's not real.

00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.759
So I think in hindsight, yeah.

00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:37.440
I don't know.

00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:38.799
Maybe I'd wait a week.

00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:45.839
I liked that question because neither one you can pick wrong, you know, like no, not really, yeah.

00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.799
But I think it's just about the manual labor for me.

00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:56.000
I don't mind manual labor, I don't go on my way for it, but I do what I have to most of the time.

00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.759
I mean, my job is pretty laborious, I guess.

00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:01.759
Um the bulbs.

00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:07.920
Hey, what you wouldn't let me say laboratory in our short, so I don't know if I should allow that.

00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:13.839
But I uh I wouldn't I'd I wouldn't mind helping with the dig and everything, of course.

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.799
I'd probably want to be present when he opens up.

00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.680
So so significant and dopamine just yeah.

00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.960
I mean, just could you imagine seeing all that shit for the first time?

00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.680
Like, how fucking wild would that have been?

00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:30.880
All right.

00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.519
Um, hold on.

00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:35.440
My pages are off.

00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:36.880
That was a fun episode too.

00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.440
The discovery of Tutankhamun's uh tomb.

00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.079
Yeah, I I uh I love that one too.

00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:42.799
Yeah.

00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:44.000
Oh god.

00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.839
This one I feel like either way, you're fucked.

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:48.559
Uh oh.

00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:59.200
Would you rather be stuck in the freezing chaos of the children's blizzard of 1888 or be the teacher responsible for getting all the kids home?

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.640
Oh I don't think I would want to be the response.

00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:09.440
I think I'd rather get stuck because I I could not take responsibility for all these other kids and have it be like, well.

00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:11.119
That would be so hard.

00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:12.960
I got 10 home.

00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:14.720
Fuck about the other 15.

00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.480
Oh man, uh, I can't remember the the book that I read.

00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.440
It's literally called The Children's Book or The Children's Blizzard of 1888.

00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.240
Um loved reading that book.

00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:32.000
I remember you totally on the edge of my toes, even though I kind of knew it was gonna happen because I did research before I read it.

00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:32.480
Right.

00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:40.319
But oh my gosh, the amount of like firsthand stories that this guy wrote about, I think his first name was David, maybe.

00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.319
Um I don't recall, sorry.

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.559
But uh great book.

00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:51.599
Um I think oh gosh, either way, you're kind of stuck out in the cold.

00:29:51.839 --> 00:30:00.400
Well, yeah, because you have to being a teacher, you gotta wrangle all the kids up, you know, except for the one that wanted to go back for his um oh, what was it again?

00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:01.519
Perfume bottle.

00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:02.799
Yes, thank you.

00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:09.440
Um you know, round them all up, get them on that what did they call those carts again?

00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:10.240
Fuck, I'm trying to.

00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:11.039
Oh gosh.

00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.279
Remember, yes, had a weird name.

00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.359
Anyways, get them all on there.

00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.680
Because I mean a lot of them did make it home, but there's definitely a bunch that died.

00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:31.680
Yeah, and then if even if you did survive over that that night, the second you started moving in your blood your your heart rate bursted your basically and you died, yeah.

00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:36.079
Because you didn't you warmed up too fast, which is fucking crazy.

00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:42.240
Yeah, that that was like a secondary thing that all these people didn't freeze to death, yeah.

00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:46.640
Like made it through, and they're like, as soon as you stand up and walk a couple steps, they're gone.

00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:47.359
It's crazy.

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:54.160
Or uh um drawing a blank on the girl's name who had to hide in the hay bale and lost what all limbs or just arms?

00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.799
No, I think it was just and then she died.

00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.480
Yeah, I think it was a leg or like half a leg or something.

00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:01.279
Was it just a leg?

00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:01.759
I don't know.

00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.000
She lost limbs, it sucked, and then she died, and she was supposed to be going home anyways.

00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.640
Yeah, that was also a very good um story.

00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:11.920
It was a weird one.

00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:13.279
I never heard about that before.

00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:14.640
That was crazy.

00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.000
Uh so I'm gonna say get caught.

00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:18.319
Okay.

00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:24.640
In this yeah, because like being responsible for all those kids, all these kids while also trying to like save myself.

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:30.799
Um, I'm gonna be a little selfish and say, don't say I'm gonna I don't have kids, I'm allowed.

00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.000
I'm allowed.

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:38.799
Would you rather be one of the victims targeted by Elizab Elizabeth Bathory?

00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:45.519
Bettery, however you want to call it, or work in her castle and slowly realize what's going on.

00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:47.759
Oh, work in the castle 100%.

00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.720
Yeah, I obviously would not want to be one of her victims.

00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.799
No, and yeah, and that was just a myth, too.

00:31:54.960 --> 00:32:04.160
Elizabeth Battery was claimed to bathe in the blood of virgin girls for youth.

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:19.680
Yeah, there was some weird shenanigans that kind of went on with that whole thing, and I think pure just uh witch almost kind of thing, just to kind of get some people out of the way.

00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:30.559
Yeah, I mean, really, well, she was like labeled as this prolific female serial killer for the for to stay young, like essentially.

00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.279
Yeah, but that's how some no, I'll I'll be a guard and just kind of watch what's happening.

00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.799
Again, I'll be selfish and just kind of stay out of the No, for sure.

00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:47.519
But that's like um that's what a lot of um uh stories were based off of her from back then.

00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:56.640
Obviously not Dracula, but you know, other other stories were like Vampires Vampires and whatever.

00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:00.000
So, anyways, um oh come on now.

00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.519
It's like I'm just I don't want to be the proper color, so you can't read me.

00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:11.839
Um, but yeah, so I would definitely pick uh be in a gardener or someone in the castle.

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.960
Be working in the castle.

00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:14.559
Fuck yeah, are you kidding me?

00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.000
Alright, so let's see, huh?

00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.559
Okay, so apparently I had there it is.

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:41.119
Oh, this one is would you rather be a passenger during the 1925 serum run to GNOME in brutal conditions or be the person responsible for organizing the entire mission?

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.559
Be a passenger, yeah.

00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:50.160
So you would be one of the people on the sleds running the serum.

00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.079
So I would have a route.

00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:53.039
Yes.

00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.039
For the serum run.

00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:01.680
Um we were talking about the uh diphtheria serum run of 1925 in Alaska.

00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:09.360
Um and uh the story of Balto and Togo, the dogs, the real hero.

00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.559
Yeah, so anyways, um it would be really hard to organize.

00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.639
They everything was by dog.

00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:17.840
Well, there was trains.

00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.960
There was the trains just didn't go as far as they needed it to go.

00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:21.519
Yep.

00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.920
Um, but that's so much Planning.

00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:33.599
Plan oh my gosh, the commitment to planning and they had to do it in such a short amount of time because people were dying in gnome.

00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.119
Yep, yep, yep.

00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:41.119
I'd rather I'd rather be the person who was in the brutal conditions personally.

00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:41.679
Yeah.

00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:43.039
Yeah, fuck that.

00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:43.760
It's cold.

00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:44.639
I like cold.

00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.000
That's fair, you do.

00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.320
And then you can be selfish and just say I did it.

00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:52.719
Uh-huh.

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:53.280
No.

00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.199
Say Togo did it.

00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:56.159
Togo did it.

00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.079
Togo is a real rock star.

00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.840
Didn't say any movies by Disney or whoever did that.

00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:02.480
Anyways.

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.679
Um, there's a Togo movie with Willem Defoe.

00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:06.320
I know.

00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:07.519
Willem.

00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:08.480
Sorry, yes.

00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:10.320
Yeah, Willem, yeah.

00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:12.000
So which one are you picking?

00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:14.559
What would you do?

00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.440
Plan or be out there?

00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.800
I think you would try and plan it personally if I had to guess.

00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.639
I think I would try to plan it.

00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:24.639
Yeah.

00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:25.760
Plan it.

00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:27.840
I'll plan it.

00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:28.639
Okay.

00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:29.519
I'll plan it.

00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.119
Alright, fair enough.

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.400
Uh, all right, we already had one that was similar to that, so I don't want to do that.

00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:43.840
Would you rather be on the expedition when things go wrong at Diet Love Pass or be the investigator trying to explain what happened?

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:45.440
Investigator, hundred percent.

00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:45.920
100%.

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:46.719
100%.

00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.039
I don't I don't need any uh and then we can report back to Audra.

00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.880
Audra, we figured it out.

00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:02.239
Um did we so with Diet Love Pass, that was I was that a three-parter?

00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.239
It was our first and only so far three-part episode.

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:12.400
Yeah, and we had our friend Audra on because she also really enjoys learning about that story.

00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:17.679
But the the first two episodes was the story, the third one is just all the crazy theories.

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:18.639
The theories, yeah.

00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:19.519
That's right, yeah.

00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:21.440
So, because there's so many of them.

00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:23.199
My favorite was Aliens.

00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:27.280
Oh, yeah.

00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.199
Um, Diet Love Pass.

00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:38.880
Um, if you have not heard of Diet Love Pass, even if you don't listen to this our podcast, our podcast version of listen to something on it.

00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:39.679
That episode.

00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.760
Um, listen to something because it is it is bizarre.

00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:56.719
It's hate to say that it's I'm trying not trying to be like um rude, but it's also kind of entertaining because there's so many like ifs, ands, or buts oh no, for sure about it.

00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.519
And I I know what you mean, but you're not being rude, I don't think.

00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:03.519
It's just there's there's so many things, it's very fascinating.

00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:08.480
There's so many things that contradict each other too, but then also like make sense.

00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.920
It's really strange, like how that all played out.

00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.199
Yeah, and yes, they they're pretty positive.

00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.199
It was the slab lange.

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.199
What's the yeah, slab avalanche?

00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:21.039
Slab av avalanche, yeah.

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:22.000
Um, that's the only reason.

00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:27.519
Yeah, only reason why I remember that is because that's our title slab for the for the series one.

00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.639
Yeah, but um, I'm definitely gonna be an investigator.

00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.639
I wanna I wanna be there and be like, all right, let's figure it out.

00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.519
This puzzle piece, here's this puzzle piece, how does it fit together?

00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:38.800
Yeah, no, a hundred percent.

00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.519
Yeah, so all right, fair enough.

00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:43.039
All right.

00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:45.840
Uh oh god.

00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.320
Oh, yeah, caveat.

00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:54.239
If I were someone in the crew, am I still alive?

00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.719
And could I tell like what happened to the people?

00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:57.360
No.

00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:59.840
I will be an investigator.

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.920
You would be dead if you weren't.

00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:14.960
Would you rather be involved in the chaos surrounding the black sock scandal or be the fan who slowly realizes your team through the game?

00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.039
What was the first one?

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.840
Be involved in the chaos surrounding the black sox scandal.

00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:26.639
So be a be part of the gambling situation or being a fan that oh, the betrayal.

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.960
Cause okay, so I'm gonna be the fan.

00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:53.679
The the wife and kids and I walked around our local town here, and we went into a uh um antique store, and yeah, some people sell stuff that aren't really antiques, but I saw uh was it 2007 Ryan Braun, like um rookie of the year pennant.

00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:04.639
I loved Ryan Braun until you found out he was juicy, yeah, which really soured him for me, and I still like him.

00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.559
It's like a betrayal of trust.

00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:07.679
So it's the same thing.

00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:14.159
Could you imagine being that fan, especially in the uh was it oh shit, what year was it?

00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.119
Oh, early 1900s, yeah.

00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.840
Either way, drawing a blank on it.

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:34.639
Um it was around 1910, 1915, somewhere in that vicinity, especially then, because that was like, you know, baseball was, I mean, I'd want to say still relatively new, but it was I think around for fuck almost 50 years or so at that time.

00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.119
But like that was you know, America's pastime, they all had that.

00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.880
There wasn't really football yet.

00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.480
There was football, but not like the National Football League like we know it today.

00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.519
But um, holy fuck, could you be like, you broke my heart, Joe?

00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:50.400
Yeah, exactly.

00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:55.039
Whatever that quote was, or no, say it ain't so say it ain't so, Joe.

00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:56.639
Yeah, there it is.

00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:04.079
Yeah, so it's like, could you imagine like being such a fan and having your just a heartbroken by these?

00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:08.639
So wait, you did this for pittance and you never even received it?

00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:14.960
Because I mean, people idolize athletes, they idolize rock stars, they idolize actors, whatever.

00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.000
Yeah, yeah, and then just to be like, well, that was just the biggest form of betrayal.

00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.639
And fuck you, yeah, 100%.

00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:46.159
Yeah, um, so if you don't know the story, the White Sox um try to throw the World Series, throw the World Series um and yeah, earn money and they didn't get paid, and they lost the World Series, and they all were banished from ever playing again.

00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:51.119
Yeah, which is really sad because some of them are really good, like Jules Joe Jackson.

00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:57.840
He was a hell of a fucking baseball player and threw his career away because of greed.

00:40:58.239 --> 00:40:59.760
Yeah, basically.

00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:15.119
Um, this one is definitely more geared towards you in terms of this, because you're the one who typically will do the research and then you teach me something, right?

00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:34.159
Would you rather be dropped into a random historical event you've covered on the podcast, or this is where it gets tricky for you especially, have to explain that event perfectly or you stay stuck there forever.

00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:45.840
Well, um I feel like I would have less of an issue with an event if I get to choose that event.

00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:47.199
True.

00:41:48.639 --> 00:42:09.119
Cause if I could choose that event, I could choose I don't know, being um one of Annie Oaky, Annie Oakley's like gun carrying person, you know, like like caddy, like caddies with golf clubs, like I'll be your caddy with your guns and I'll have a good time.

00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:10.800
That's not how this works.

00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.400
That's not how this works.

00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:12.639
Right.

00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:19.039
Because then I could be like, I was the beggar at the grocery store for this person who walked by once.

00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.280
Yeah, you can't you can't do that.

00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:27.440
So you basically you're putting yourself into like, yes, Annie Oakley was not a bad one.

00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.599
Most of our stories are depressing, though.

00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:30.400
Yeah.

00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:37.519
So yeah, you could be like, I'd be like Annie Oakley, because then I was just going around shooting stuff, whatever.

00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:38.320
Yeah.

00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:51.039
Um, if I if I could not choose the event and it was chosen for me, yes, um, or I had to explain it perfectly, or else I'm stuck there.

00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:51.760
Yeah.

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:53.840
I'll just go to the event.

00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.360
Of course you would, because you would totally butcher it.

00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:04.239
Because even though you've done your research and we've done episodes on it, you're gonna forget something because your name is Kate.

00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:05.199
Huh?

00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:06.960
Yes, yeah, correct.

00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.320
Yeah, I'll go to the event and just try to live.

00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:13.440
Just try and live.

00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:15.039
Live another day.

00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:17.679
Oh my god.

00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:18.400
Yeah.

00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.280
Um I would do the same.

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:21.760
Yeah.

00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.800
I wouldn't be able to a hundred percent perfectly explain it.

00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:25.519
You kidding me?

00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:27.039
No, there's no way.

00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:28.880
Do I have note cards?

00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.519
Do I get to bring the teleprompter?

00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:34.239
Right.

00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:35.760
Oh dear.

00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.199
Um oh, this is another Diet Love one for you.

00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:41.599
Okay.

00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:42.880
A little bit different.

00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:49.039
Would you rather be the person discovering the bodies at the Diet Love Pass incident?

00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:55.039
Or you're one of the hikers knowing something is wrong, but not what?

00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:59.199
Clearly, I'd want to find the bodies.

00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.400
Bodies and just be like, all right.

00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:04.159
Oh, there's another one.

00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:06.239
I will find the bodies.

00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:11.199
Um, no, no, I'm not gonna put myself into that situation.

00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.840
No, because you I refuse.

00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.960
Well, especially because you know what's gonna happen.

00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:19.440
But just think, all right, try and remove that.

00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:26.800
Obviously, it's hard to being one of those hikers, they're all excited to go on this to get their was it level three?

00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:27.519
Is that right?

00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:29.920
Something like that, like hiking certification.

00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:37.280
Their Russian hiking certification um be like, oh, we're so excited, but man, I'm out here.

00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:45.280
Something just doesn't seem yeah, because obviously you don't know at that point, but I get it, we do know now, so 100%.

00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:47.360
Yeah, well, there's a frozen leg.

00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:53.599
No, I will be the person to discover the bodies, and then I'll also be the person that tries to put all the pieces together from the last question.

00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:54.719
So there we go.

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.159
Okay, fair enough.

00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:57.599
I get that.

00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.360
Oh okay.

00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:07.440
Um, be forced to participate in one of Emperor Nero's performances.

00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:09.119
The liar.

00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.960
Or be the guy who has to tell him he's not talented.

00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:16.880
Dude, what are you doing?

00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.159
Rome is burning.

00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:19.199
What are you doing?

00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:20.320
You're not that good.

00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:21.280
You're not that good, man.

00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:22.719
Rome is burning.

00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.599
I think we need uh priorities.

00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:26.320
Yeah.

00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:28.559
Okay, so what was the first one?

00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.159
Be forced to participate in one of Ember Nero's performances.

00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:33.920
Or tell him that he sucks.

00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:34.719
Yep.

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:36.320
Pretty much.

00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:42.000
Oh man, I don't he wasn't like a super nasty guy, if I remember right.

00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:47.039
Like he won't behead me for telling him, dude, you suck.

00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:56.639
Yeah, it's like um he wasn't a terrible, he wasn't a good person, but he wasn't like what's the word I'm looking for.

00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:58.159
He wasn't like a tyrant.

00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:03.199
No, but he did make some questionable decisions like having his mom killed or whatever.

00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:03.679
Yeah.

00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:06.159
Or tried to exile and all.

00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:07.280
He exiled a lot of people.

00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:08.400
Fucking Nero.

00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:10.239
Fucking Nero.

00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:15.280
Um but he he did some shitty things.

00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.159
I'd rather be in his good graces, I think.

00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:24.719
Well, so I think I'll I'll hand him the little preferably I'll hand him the liar.

00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:25.519
Here you go, sir.

00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:26.480
Go ahead, start.

00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:27.679
I I am here for you.

00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.360
I will hold your music up for you.

00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:34.159
I will hold your music by swears and go.

00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:38.320
Yeah, I mean, that would make the most sense, don't you think?

00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:40.000
But I don't know.

00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:43.760
Oh dear, okay.

00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.320
We're gonna that one that's like basically the same thing, but be one of the scientists.

00:46:50.480 --> 00:47:00.719
Would you rather be one of the scientists discovering radiation effects like radium girls situation or be a worker slowly realizing something is very wrong?

00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:09.760
Obviously, I would not want to be one of the workers because then you know, hey, my jaw is falling off.

00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.880
Yeah, the radium story.

00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:17.440
That was I was starting I read that book over 2020.

00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:18.079
Yeah.

00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.559
And it has stuck with me since.

00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.960
Um, so yeah, I I did Radium Girls fairly early on in our podcast.

00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:25.519
Yep.

00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:31.440
Um, but they did the lip dip point or something, paint lip dip paint.

00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:31.920
I don't remember.

00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:40.159
Um, but they were ingesting small amounts of radium, these women to make um glow-in-the-dark clocks watching, yeah.

00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:49.760
Um and they were getting tumors and missing jaw, and it was really horri horrible, horrible what they went through.

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:50.400
Yep.

00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:57.920
Um, and also I don't r also really want to be the nasty guy who knows what's going on and making them do it.

00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.960
Like that just sounds so horrible to be that type of person.

00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:05.199
To put to knowingly put people through that situation.

00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.039
Are you are you effing kidding me?

00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:16.320
I am the type of person as someone as an instructor working at a school where I give sorry, where I give duties.

00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:17.360
Yeah.

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:23.840
Um, I am the type of person that if I wouldn't do it myself, I'm not gonna make someone else do it.

00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:24.719
No, 100%.

00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.360
I try really hard to keep that standard.

00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:27.920
Yeah.

00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.880
If it's something super hard, I'll try to do it myself.

00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:31.360
Right.

00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.960
Or I'll see if someone is comfortable enough to do it, if it's something that I don't want to do, but I try not to do that.

00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:37.920
No, of course not.

00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:47.119
So, oh gosh, do I want to be someone who's dying of radium poisoning, or do I want to know about people that people are dying of radium poisoning and not doing anything about it?

00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.199
That's a tricky spot.

00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.800
It's a very weird ethical conundrum.

00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:53.280
Yeah.

00:48:53.599 --> 00:49:00.960
Because clearly I would not want to die like that with my jaw possibly falling off or the tumors or whatever.

00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:06.480
I mean, a lot of those girls, didn't they all die in like their 30s, if I remember right?

00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.880
I know it was a lot of them were pretty young.

00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:09.519
Yeah.

00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:16.639
Um sooner than that, I'm sure some later, but uh fuck.

00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:23.119
Go going in as like, well, do your job.

00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:23.840
Right.

00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:24.800
Knowingly.

00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.119
Also, we're not gonna give you hazard pay.

00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:32.800
Which is actually we're gonna they they made money off how much they could produce.

00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:33.840
So they did a lot.

00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:45.519
So they tried to do a ton, which is you know, and then they go out on dates and glow or whatever, but I that's an ethical problem if I've ever heard one.

00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.039
Because couldn't they just like have a little glass of water and dip it in there?

00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.880
But then they're still gonna get exposed to it.

00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:53.519
Yeah.

00:49:53.840 --> 00:50:03.760
I mean, clearly more by doing it in their mouth, obviously, but Madame Carey was the one that discovered radium, I think.

00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:05.039
I believe that's correct.

00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:05.440
Yeah.

00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.920
I think she also had radium poisoning, if I'm not mistaken.

00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:09.119
I'm also pretty sure.

00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:11.039
And didn't I think her husband too.

00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:11.920
I think so.

00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:12.480
I thought.

00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:14.400
So what would you choose?

00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:15.679
Oh fuck.

00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:16.239
I know.

00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.280
It's like be ethical or be dead.

00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:23.119
Or I mean unethical or be dead.

00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:25.119
That is a question.

00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:26.639
Unethical.

00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:27.440
Yeah.

00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:29.760
Yeah, I guess.

00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.159
That's tough because if I pick the other one, I'm just dead.

00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:34.480
Yeah.

00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.000
I'm not changing anything.

00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:37.760
At least with the other one, I'm alive.

00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:38.159
Yeah.

00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:41.679
So I guess, yeah, I guess I'd have to be unethical on that one.

00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:43.840
Also, hindsight, right?

00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:45.920
It's fucking 2020.

00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:48.719
Same thing with being like the guard at Andersonville.

00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.000
It's like ethically we know what's wrong, but I'm gonna save my skin.

00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:53.119
Oh, right.

00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:54.639
And you know.

00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.960
That's what a lot of people have done over the years, so you know, I get it, but your own skin, yeah.

00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:02.079
But I don't know.

00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:02.639
Anyways.

00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.199
Alright, so how do you feel about your vanilla porter?

00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.679
It was still just as delicious as it was yesterday.

00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:08.719
Yeah, it was really good.

00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:14.239
So again, let me get my sign out here so we can give ow.

00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.199
It is a nice metal sign.

00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:18.239
Yeah.

00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.239
So we're gonna hang it in our podlops.

00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.840
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly where yet, but it is going up here.

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.639
Um thank you so much, Dale.

00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:27.840
Yeah, thank you, Dale.

00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.039
And uh a little ditty about Brad and Diane.

00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.519
So that sent us there, and we met some really nice people.

00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:41.199
Got some really good beer, got a nice little uh tin sign that we can hang up in the podloft.

00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:44.000
And I don't know, we'll figure out a nice home for it.

00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.119
But yeah, I I rather enjoyed that beer.

00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:50.800
I really liked a lot of the beers that they had us that he had us try.

00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:55.599
So because you also had a like was it a raspberry IPA?

00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.320
Yes, that was really interesting too.

00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:04.000
Yeah, because it wasn't like overly powering raspberry, but it was very delicious.

00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:08.079
Um, and oh trying to like we were there one time.

00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:12.880
I'm sorry that I don't remember all the names, but there's that one IPA that was like 9.1% or whatever.

00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.159
It was like whoo, potent stuff, but man, that was delicious too.

00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:16.639
Yeah, yeah.

00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:21.440
So, no, there was there, they had a lot of a lot of good beers, uh, especially for Bradley over here.

00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:27.760
So well, thanks for bearing with us, folks, as I kind of recover from my cold and Bradley taking over.

00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:29.920
I hope it didn't suck.

00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:31.760
Nah, nah.

00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:36.400
I I'm feeling pretty good having taken sleeping meds and that's surprising.

00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:37.599
Also had some beer.

00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.239
Um, I think I'm gonna top my my empty glass off a little bit.

00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.800
Yeah, and uh yeah, now I kind of want to watch Operation Mincemeat again.

00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:49.599
My boy Colin.

00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.000
Callin, let's watch some mincemeat, eh?

00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:53.199
Yeah, yeah.

00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:54.880
Well so I suppose.

00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:57.519
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00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.840
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