Oct. 27, 2025

Feared and Revered: The Wendigo and Other Cryptids

Feared and Revered: The Wendigo and Other Cryptids
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A classic cocktail opens a door to stranger places. We start with the crisp snap of a gin and tonic and its unexpected past as a colonial malaria remedy, then step into the woods, deserts, and fog banks where four legends still breathe: the Wendigo, Chupacabra, Mothman, and Bigfoot. It’s a spirited tour that blends folklore, history, science, and a few dice-rolling survival games to test what you’d do when the dark starts whispering.

First, the Wendigo: rooted in Algonquian traditions as a spirit of hunger and greed, not just a monster. We unpack the chilling Swift Runner case, the contested legacy of Jack Fiddler, and how colonization reshaped a moral warning into a trope. Next, the 1995 Chupacabra wave in Puerto Rico shows how modern myths spread at the speed of panic, while veterinarians point to feral canines and mange. Biology explains the bloodless carcasses; it doesn’t explain why the story stuck so hard.

From there, we drive into Point Pleasant’s fog to meet Mothman—red eyes, vast wings, and a year of sightings that ended with the Silver Bridge collapse. Engineering names brittle fracture; people remember omens. Festivals, museums, and the Mothman Prophecies keep the mystery alive because it helps a town carry grief. We close under the Redwoods with Bigfoot and the Patterson–Gimlin film, weighing Indigenous lore, footprint casts, and theories that range from undiscovered primate to pure hoax, all orbiting the same question: why do we need giants in our forests?

Expect curiosity over certainty, story over cynicism, and a toast to how cultures turn fear into teaching. Press play, pour something botanical, and tell us where you land: skeptic, believer, or happily undecided. If this ride hooked you, follow the show, leave a quick review, and share it with a friend who loves a good mystery.

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00:00 - Gin And Tonic’s Colonial Origins

06:45 - Setting The Halloween Theme And Cryptid Plan

09:24 - The Wendigo: Swift Runner And Psychosis

21:05 - Jack Fiddler And Cultural Context

24:15 - Game One: Wendigo Survival Scenario

27:45 - Chupacabra In Puerto Rico

34:10 - Biology, Mange, And Modern Sightings

36:55 - Game Two: Ranch Lights And Goat Panic

39:55 - Mothman In Point Pleasant

47:10 - The Silver Bridge Collapse And Theories

52:30 - Game Three: Prophecy And Consequence

55:00 - Bigfoot: Patterson–Gimlin And Beyond

01:03:25 - Evidence, Theories, And Pop Culture

01:06:40 - Game Four: Mating Season With Bigfoot

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Oh, hey there.

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Oh, hey there.

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How are you?

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I'm good.

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I'm Kate.

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And I'm Bradley.

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And this is History Buffoons.

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Huzzah.

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Yes.

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So normally you get right into it with the beers.

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I do.

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But we got a little bit of a different treat today.

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Yes.

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Because I came across something that I never knew.

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And we like gin and tonics.

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So we each have a gin and tonic.

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You sure fucking do.

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So cheers, cheers the history of a food.

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Cheers.

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Before you get into your story, I'm gonna teach you about the history of gin and tonic, apparently.

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Oh.

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I I never knew this about it.

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Okay.

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So the gin and tonic uh has a pretty practical and colonial origin story.

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We all love origin stories.

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Well, we are colonizers.

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Well, you know.

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We came from them, kind of.

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Anyways, um, so it wasn't just like someone created a cocktail kind of thing.

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It actually had a practical use to it.

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But it uh grew out of medicine and empire, specifically the British presence in India in the 18th and 19th century.

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Okay.

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All right, so they had a problem when they were in India.

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Can you guess what that problem was?

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They wanted drinks.

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Malaria.

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Am I right?

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So uh malaria was very rampant in India and other tropical countries, or colonies, I should say.

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And the British Army uh colonial officials and settlers were constantly at risk from malaria.

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What does malaria do?

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That's one thing I didn't actually dive into.

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Is that from um insects?

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I believe so.

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Can you get that from like mosquitoes?

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I think so.

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I think yeah.

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Well, while I talk about this, you can check that out for me.

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Um but at the time, the only effective prenate preventative and uh slash treatment was quinine.

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Do you know quinine?

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Yeah.

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Uh do you know where it's from?

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Quarries?

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That's rocks.

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That's rocks.

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Uh it's a bitter compound derived from the bark of the cinchona tree, which is native to um South America.

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Okay.

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So the British used to import it to India uh from there, basically.

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So what they used to do, uh, it was extremely bitter and unpleasant on its own, the quinine, uh, to make it more uh enjoyable, we'll say.

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The British dissolved it in carbonated water, creating tonic water.

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So I guess I'll be honest, I didn't know quinine was the main one of the main ingredients in tonic water.

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Yeah, you'll see that on like tonic bottles made of quinine.

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I probably have, I just don't recall because I guess how often do I read labels on tonic water?

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I guess like this looks like a clear liquid I want.

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It's got some bubbles.

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But uh, anyways, uh so obviously early tonic waters had a much higher quinine uh like content to it, basically.

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Yeah, especially compared to what we have today.

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Yeah, but they also, you know, we've modernized it and everything, and it's not used for what it used to be used for, kind of thing.

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Uh so British officers uh were already drinking gin.

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It was a very popular uh alcohol since the 1600s.

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Um, and apparently there was a gin craze.

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I didn't look into that, but I kind of want to now.

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Wasn't part of your research.

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It was definitely was not.

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I'm just going off the history of the ginotonic, not like all the ins and outs of it.

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Uh so they began mixing their daily quinine dose with gin, lime, sugar, and water to mask the bitterness.

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So it's funny because it says not only made it tolerable, but actually refreshing in the hot Indian climate.

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I mean, that's how I started drinking.

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You hang out in India?

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No, during a hot, hot summer.

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Oh, fair enough.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So um the gin and tonic wasn't just a medical necessity, it became a fashionable social drink among colonists.

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So uh by the uh mid to late 19th century, the drink was well established in India and then it went back to Britain because obviously that's where it originated, because that's where they were.

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Yeah.

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Um, so it kind of stuck in India, but it finally made its way back to to uh England or Britain, I guess.

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But um obviously we were able to finally control malaria, so the use of it wasn't the same anymore.

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It just was more, hey, let's drink a gin and tonic.

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No, let's just have a gin and tonic.

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Yeah.

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So um today's modern gin and tonic, the tonic water contains only a fraction of the quinine that they used to put in it, obviously.

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Just enough for the signature bitter edge and a faint fluorescent under UV light.

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I didn't know a fluorescence.

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I think I said that wrong.

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I didn't know it did that.

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I kind of want to get a UV light.

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But, anyways, I don't have one.

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No, that's okay.

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Nathan has a new light.

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I wonder if it does UV.

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I doubt it.

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Either way.

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But um, pretty much now more of it's pairing it with the botanicals because you like the Hendrix a lot, right?

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And that's a cucumber.

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Cucumber, but there's also what's the other very popular I mean juniper is juniper, that's the one I was trying to think of.

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Yeah, oh yeah, I should keep reading.

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Uh juniper, citrus, unlike me, and herbs.

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So obviously there's different garnishes.

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We have uh lime in ours.

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So the lushals, but you can, of course, do lemon, cucumber, and even less stuff like rosemary to get different aspects of the gin to come out.

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Uh, so basically it's uh a relic of the colonial history that they used for medicine.

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That's cool.

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I had no idea.

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I never knew that was a thing.

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Yeah.

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I came across it and I'm like, uh, we like gin and tonic.

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Save.

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I think I need to save that, do a little different, and we'll go back to having a gin and tonic uh on the podcast.

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I'm feeling supersonic.

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Give me gin and tonic.

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You could have it all, but how much do you want it?

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Okay, so malaria is from a mosquito bite.

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It is.

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Okay, that's what I thought.

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It enters the bloodstream, infects the liver, and then re-enters the bloodstream and attacks red blood cells.

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Oh, damn.

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Yeah.

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So within 10 to 15 days after being bitten, uh, fever and chills, sweating, headache, fatigue, muscle aches, nausea, or vomiting, and then untreated malaria, very severe malaria, anemia, organ fail failure, coma, and then death.

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Oh, that sounds pretty terrible.

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Sounds pretty terrible.

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Um, so a lot of prevention.

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Um, a lot of people will use mosquito nets that actually have incest insecticide treatments in it.

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Um, mosquito repellents, obviously, but then there are vaccines as well.

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Of course, yeah.

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This day and age.

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Yes.

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Um, there's a really good Nirvana album called Incesticide.

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It's really fucking fantastic.

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It's not considered one of their albums because it's just a bunch of covers and B-sides, but it's so good.

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It's actually got some of their best stuff, in my opinion, on it.

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Anywho.

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Okay, so this is a shout out to Tony from Iowa.

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Um, he wanted us to do um Should you preface like why we're doing this particular topic?

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Yeah, because Tony.

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Time frame?

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Why?

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It's close to Halloween.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is this is our quote unquote Halloween episode.

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Last year we did a bonus episode for Halloween Day.

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This time we're just gonna do it right before Halloween.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Yes.

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Um, so Tony requested that we do an episode on the Wendigo, which I know of, but I don't know much about.

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I didn't, I've only heard of.

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Right.

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Did not know anything about it.

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Same.

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Um, but instead of just going into just the Wendigo, I am going into four different types of cryptids.

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Are you gonna get more in definition of what a cryptid is?

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Um, a cryptid is like uh animal from lore.

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Basically, it's not exactly what we call a regular animal.

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No, not even close.

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It's usually a hybrid of something.

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Hybrid, exactly whatever, yeah, for sure.

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So we are gonna do it on the Wendigo.

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Um, the Chupacabra.

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Oh, the good old chupacabra.

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Uh-huh.

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And then the Mothman.

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Yep.

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And Bigfoot.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And then it's from a movie.

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Oh.

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And then in between each cryptid, you're gonna play a game.

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Well shit.

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I get to play.

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It's okay, all you have to do is roll dice and flip a coin.

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I do.

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Yeah.

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I think I know how to pull that off.

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Yeah, I think you do.

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Okay, so the Wendigo.

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So we're gonna go to like northern Alberta in 1879.

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Good old Canada.

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We're gonna fly to Canada.

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Tell me what it's all about.

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The land was frozen solid.

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There was a white desert full of pine and silence.

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Okay.

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Um the Algonquin speaking peoples, the Cree trappers.

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Cree trappers.

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Even said that the wind had teeth.

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Like it was just a bitter, nasty, cold winter.

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Yeah, white out winter.

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I can kind of picture some of that.

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Yeah.

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A uh Algonquin Cree trapper named Swift Runner.

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Swift Runner was a big man.

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Okay.

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He was strong, he was clever, he was known for his booming laugh.

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Oh.

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D try.

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Oh, oh, uh, uh, uh yes, with less electronic sounding.

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Swift.

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Uh, uh Swift Runner was tall, broad shoulders, cray man, and he was had a reputation for his strength and his humor.

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Okay.

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He was a former member of the Northwest Mounted Police.

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Okay.

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And a respected figure in his community.

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Nice.

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Yeah.

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He was also known for his intelligence and imposing presence.

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Just a big man, so that usually was a big man.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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But by 1878, something had changed.

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He had developed a problem with alcohol.

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Oh, dear.

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And that habit kind of cost him his his job with the mounties, um, his role as a guide um through the mountains, well, excuse me, through the forests.

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Okay.

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And some of his relationships.

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I would imagine, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that fall Swift runner took his wife, six children, oh my gosh.

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Mother-in-law, and brother into the northern Alberta wilderness to trap for the winter.

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All right.

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They never returned.

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Oh shit.

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All of them?

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None of them returned?

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One did.

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Oh, really?

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In the spring of 1879, Swift Runner emerged alone.

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Oh dear.

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At the Catholic mission in St.

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Albert, well fed, cheerful.

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Okay.

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And claiming his family had starved to death.

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But he was well fed.

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So did he eat them?

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Is that speculative?

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That's a good speculation.

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Yeah.

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Um, the priests were like.

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Something seems fishy here.

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Well, if he was well fed, why did they all starve?

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Exactly.

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Is it because he took all their food?

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So a man who supposedly lost eight family members to famine shouldn't have looked so healthy.

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No, he would have been pretty frail and withered away as well.

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When pressed, his story shifted.

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And he spoke of a presence in the woods.

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So now he's making shit up to cover what he did.

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A wendigo.

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It whispered to him in the night.

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Oh Lord.

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Urging hunger and coaxing madness.

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Okay.

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He said, quote, it's in the wind.

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You can't stop hearing it breathing.

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Okay.

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Authorities followed Swift Rounder to his camp deep in the woods.

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Yeah.

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And what they found.

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Didn't really add up to what he was saying.

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No, it made their their toes curl a little bit.

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Oh dear.

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Not in a good way.

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I hate one.

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Not in a good way.

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Wow.

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All right.

00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.559
It's probably more like hammer toe, you know.

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That's a cool.

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That sounds fucking awful.

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Let's move on from the feet.

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No, gross.

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Is that what that is?

00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:15.919
Yeah, it's like, it looks like that.

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Gross.

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I hate I hate feet.

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I don't like feet.

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They found human bones.

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Well, of course.

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Some cracked and missing its marrow.

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Oh, so like sucked it out even.

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No.

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Okay, that is unnecessary.

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Skulls were smashed open.

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Well, I gotta get to the brains, man.

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A cooking pot was coated in grease.

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The remains of his entire family were boiled, gnawed, and burned.

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He did confess immediately.

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That he ate them.

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His eldest son had been the first to die out of starvation.

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Okay.

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But Swift Runner didn't leave to seek help.

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He stayed.

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Clearly.

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And he said the Wendigo had entered his dreams.

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Driven by a hunger that didn't feel like his own.

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He killed and ate his wife.

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He killed and ate his children.

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He killed and ate his brother.

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And the mother-in-law.

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He killed and ate his mother-in-law.

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He said it wasn't murder.

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Yes, it was.

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It was relief.

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Oh my God.

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Swift Runner was arrested and put on trial.

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The defense offered no insanity plea.

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Colonial authorities weren't interested in spirits or possession.

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Right.

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He was convicted and hanged in December of 1879.

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Witnesses said he faced the gallows without fear, joking with the guards and asking for a pipe before stepping onto the platform.

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Okay.

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To the Cree, Swift Runner's story was not just a crime, it was a warning, a textbook case of when to go possession.

00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:11.759
So wait.

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Textbook case.

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So this has happened before.

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Hunger, isolation, and a spiritual imbalance had opened the door to something ancient.

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Something that they say still echoes in the northern forests.

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So in the dead of winter.

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Before Swift Runner did all this and blame the Wendigo, was the Wendigo like something they knew about prior to him?

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They they figured it was some kind of like a spiritual essence that happened that overcame humans when they were like incredibly hungry.

00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:56.000
So I guess what I'm kind of asking is did Swift Runner create the name Wendigo?

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Okay, so it was already around.

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Yes.

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Gotcha.

00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:02.720
He just used that as his scapegoat.

00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:03.279
Yes.

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For eating his family.

00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:05.519
Yes.

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Uh, and coming back all fat and satiated.

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Okay, so the Wendigo originates from Algonquin speaking nations, particularly the Cree, the Inu, and the Ojibwe.

00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:20.240
Okay.

00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:20.639
Okay.

00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:24.320
In their traditions, though, Wendigo is a spirit of hunger and greed.

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Gotcha.

00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:29.759
It appears in times of famine when survival turns on morality's edge.

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It is not merely a creature, but a warning.

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Right.

00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:33.600
Okay.

00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:46.159
No single description exists, but most versions depict the Wendigo as emanciated, gaunt, with like the skin pulled over really tight against the bones.

00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:48.159
Is it uh emaciated?

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What'd I say?

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Emanciated.

00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:50.399
Yeah.

00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:51.840
Emaciated.

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That's awesome.

00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:00.639
Um, it uh its eyes were sunken in and its lips were all like tattered and torn.

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Kind of curled back almost.

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Sometimes with bloody teeth.

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Right.

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A heart made of ice, a breast so cold it burns.

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And some say it stands 15 feet tall.

00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:14.799
That's pretty big.

00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:23.440
But others say it hides inside men, which is what Swift Runner was kind of going for.

00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:27.279
But one detail never changes from story to story.

00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:27.680
Okay.

00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.480
The more it eats, the hungrier it becomes.

00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:31.839
Well, yeah.

00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.799
I mean, probably got a thyroid issue.

00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.039
Might want to get that checked out.

00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.200
Can you check my window?

00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:40.160
I mean my thyroid.

00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:46.400
So early settlers recorded tales of Wendigo encounters from the 1600s.

00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:47.839
Oh, so it's been around that long.

00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.119
It's been around the block.

00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:49.680
Wow.

00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:50.880
That's I didn't okay.

00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:52.319
I didn't realize it was that old.

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So in 1878, the Hudson Bay Company um documented couple multiple Cree families reporting Wendigo sightings during harsh winters.

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So this is about around the time of Swift Runner.

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Right.

00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:15.599
Um, the cases of Wendigo psychosis were reported into the 20th century, where individuals often isolated and starving believed they were transforming into the monster.

00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:16.880
Oh, Jesus.

00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:17.519
Okay.

00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:19.599
Now we have Jack Fiddler.

00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:24.960
He was an OG Cree shaman and respected leader of the sucker people.

00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.119
What's an OG Cree shaman?

00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:28.880
Like an like original gangster?

00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:33.920
Um, no, it's the um the two um Ojibwe oh Cree.

00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.359
I think they just called it OG Cray Kree.

00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.160
So it's a it's like a combination of the two or whatever.

00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:40.480
Okay.

00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:40.880
Yeah.

00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:41.519
Gotcha.

00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:46.480
So um he was a respected leader um in like the northwestern Ontario area.

00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:47.119
Okay.

00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:52.720
Um, he wasn't known for healing the sick or you know, living large in his community.

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He was actually feared and res revered, feared and revered as a Wendigo killer.

00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:01.599
Wow.

00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:06.559
How many uh do you like scalp them after they were done or get some pelts or something?

00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:08.079
How many Wendigoes did he kill?

00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:08.799
14.

00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:10.720
No mention of scalping.

00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.720
So, what proof did he have that he killed these said Wendigos?

00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:21.920
So they weren't monsters in the woods, but people within his own community who had become possessed by the Wendigo spirit.

00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:24.160
So basically, he was a serial killer.

00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:26.880
They were often loved ones.

00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:33.440
A son, a sister, a friend, a wife, people who showed signs of transformation.

00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.240
Oh my god, that is so fucking stupid.

00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:45.519
There was uncontrollable rage, refusal to refusal to eat traditional food, or the unmistakable craving for human flesh.

00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:47.839
Who doesn't have that, huh?

00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:49.839
So, okay.

00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:54.079
He it sounds like he just like you looked at me the wrong way.

00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.960
You're a fucking Wendigo coming for you.

00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:59.200
How could you do that to like your son?

00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:00.960
Because you think he's the Wendigo?

00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:02.559
I mean, that's fucked up.

00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:09.519
So he Jack said he didn't kill out of malice, he did it to protect the others.

00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:10.960
Who are the others?

00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:12.319
Other people in the community.

00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:16.400
I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some like weird Nicole Kidman movie or whatever.

00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:16.880
Is that right?

00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:17.839
Do I got the right one?

00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:18.559
Okay.

00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:23.839
I mean, it's a valid question.

00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:26.640
I think I've seen that once.

00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:26.880
I know.

00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:27.839
Me too once.

00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:28.400
Yeah.

00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:34.160
Okay, so in March of 1907, colonial authorities finally caught wind of his practice.

00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:42.079
And Jack and his brother Joseph were arrested for the murder of a woman whose name I'm not going to try to pronounce.

00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:43.359
I'd like you to.

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Wasaka piqua.

00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:47.519
Yeah, don't do that again.

00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:52.480
Nice try.

00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:53.759
I like the effort though.

00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:55.119
Thank you for trying for me.

00:20:55.519 --> 00:21:04.559
So this this woman happened to be Jack's daughter-in-law, who had fallen ill and believed to be turning into a Wendigo.

00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:05.920
Just because she was sick?

00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:06.559
Yeah.

00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:07.359
Come on.

00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.839
So her family had asked Jack to act before she harmed anyone.

00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:12.559
And he did.

00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:13.920
For fuck's sake.

00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:17.599
But to the Northwest Mounted Police, this was Mudda.

00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:19.680
Well, all of his were murder.

00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:20.960
All of them were murder.

00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:21.599
I'm sorry.

00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:22.559
I don't care how much he wants to.

00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:24.559
I'm just killing Wendigo, bro.

00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:27.200
So is he like Van Helsing?

00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.839
Is Van Helsing a murderer?

00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:33.039
Wendigo's aren't real, vampires are.

00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:33.519
So.

00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:42.960
Um, I mean, I kind of, I guess in a different setting, lore, whatever you want to say.

00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:46.720
Yeah, I mean, it's more or less the same thing, right?

00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:54.240
Because they're just killing people because they said, ah, you've been bitten by the vampire, now a vampire, you're turning into a Wendigo.

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:58.160
I'm gonna kill you, which is otherwise otherwise called murder.

00:21:58.640 --> 00:21:59.119
Murder.

00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.240
So wow.

00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:05.920
So the trial was set for the fall.

00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:06.240
Okay.

00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.119
And Jack Fiddler never made it.

00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:09.839
Why?

00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:15.039
In September 1907, while in custody, he escaped into the woods and hanged himself.

00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:16.400
Oh, 1907.

00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:19.599
So this happened 30 years after.

00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.880
So 1907 is when he was arrested.

00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:23.519
Mm-hmm.

00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:28.880
He was arrested and he did some of these for the last 30 years, basically.

00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:29.519
Okay.

00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:30.079
Gotcha.

00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:30.640
Gotcha.

00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.920
So he chose death in the forest over a courtroom.

00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:36.480
So do you think the one to go hang hung him?

00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:42.480
So his brother, Joseph, did stand trial and was convicted.

00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:44.400
Well, yeah, because they murdered people.

00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.119
The government later issued a pardon.

00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:47.920
Come on.

00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:54.079
But it arrived three days after Joseph died in prison.

00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:55.119
That sucks.

00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:55.920
How did he die?

00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:56.319
Do you know?

00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:59.279
The cause of death is only listed as illness.

00:22:59.519 --> 00:22:59.839
Okay.

00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:00.880
And nothing else.

00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:01.440
Yeah.

00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:05.440
I'm sure records were pretty shoddy back in 07, you said?

00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:05.759
Yeah.

00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.640
To the OG Cree, this was mere.

00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:15.119
This was more than like a legal type of tragedy.

00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:19.440
It was what they think as criminalization of ancient medicine.

00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.920
Jack wasn't a killer for hire.

00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:25.039
He was a guardian against spiritual corruption.

00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:33.200
So the Wendigo didn't just claim lies, it changed the very laws of survival.

00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:33.839
Right.

00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.039
Jack Fiddler died believing that the spirit was real.

00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:38.400
Well, of course he did.

00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:40.400
He also murdered people.

00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.839
So over time, colonization warped the legend.

00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:49.200
Western storytellers turned the Wendigo into more like a cannibal monster.

00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:49.759
Yeah.

00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.599
Um, kind of stripping away its cultural meaning of hunger and greed.

00:23:53.680 --> 00:24:01.359
And to the Algonquins people, the Wendigo still represents a spiritual infection of greed-made flesh.

00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:08.480
So if one of them was greedy, they just thought of like, I want all these brownies.

00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:09.519
Yeah, whatever.

00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:10.720
I want all the brownies.

00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.119
They're like, Wendigo! Pretty much.

00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:14.720
That's insane.

00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:16.720
Okay, we are gonna play a game now.

00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:17.519
Oh dear.

00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:17.920
Okay.

00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:23.200
I'm calling it scenario, consequences, predicament, and fate.

00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.920
Oh my god, that's that's that's a mouthful.

00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.160
Don't expect me to repeat that.

00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:31.680
Okay, so we're gonna do three rolls and one coin flip.

00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:33.440
Three rolls and the coin flip.

00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:39.599
So the first roll is scenario, the second roll is the twist, and the third roll is the predicament.

00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:40.000
Okay.

00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.759
And per the predicament, the coin flip is whether or not you live.

00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:44.640
Oh shit.

00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:45.119
Yeah.

00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:45.599
Okay.

00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:46.000
All right.

00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.640
So for the one to go, roll number one.

00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:50.720
You want me to roll number one?

00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:52.720
No, roll for the first one.

00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:53.759
I got a one.

00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:55.440
I rolled number one.

00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:57.519
You are snowed in for days.

00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:58.240
Oh shit.

00:24:58.400 --> 00:24:59.519
With no food left.

00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:00.079
Okay.

00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.960
Your stomach growls louder than the wind.

00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:04.799
Oh dear, that's pretty loud.

00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:10.799
Across the fire, Kate starts to look delicious.

00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:13.119
Oh dear.

00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:14.480
Roll number two.

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:15.359
Oh my god.

00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:17.599
I don't know if I can kill my co-host.

00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:20.880
One again?

00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:22.160
What the hell?

00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:23.680
Voices of your friends.

00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.480
These are not like what you would call great.

00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:28.480
I've gathered as much.

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:29.680
So just bear with me.

00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:30.720
Alright, no worries.

00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:33.839
Voices of your friends call from the trees.

00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.160
Apparently you were not alone with Kate.

00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:37.519
I have friends.

00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:39.599
Voices of friends call from the trees.

00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:40.000
Okay.

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.920
One sounds like it's right behind you.

00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:47.440
Roll number three.

00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:48.720
Oh Jesus.

00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:51.839
Two.

00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.400
Lisa finally was something better.

00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:58.559
Bradley starts acting a little weird.

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.960
He's either possessed or hangry.

00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.279
Which if he haven't eaten for days.

00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.519
Or in Kate's life minutes.

00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:16.400
I mean, I'm over here looking delicious, but like I'd like a snack, please.

00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.680
Do I confront you or do I play along?

00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.000
So flip your coin.

00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.000
I got a yes or no coin here.

00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:24.880
Yes.

00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:26.000
No.

00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:28.960
I will flip flippity flip.

00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:30.160
I'm gonna drop this.

00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:34.559
Told you.

00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:37.200
I'm trying to do wow.

00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:38.799
I almost fell.

00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:40.319
Pull the muscle.

00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:43.119
Pull the muscle.

00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.920
Do we have workers come up on this?

00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.000
Jesus, that hurt.

00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.039
I will do one more attempt, otherwise, I'll call it from the way I see it.

00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:55.440
No.

00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:57.119
You gotta hold it up.

00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:57.920
Oh, I'm sorry.

00:26:58.079 --> 00:26:59.200
It says no.

00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:00.559
Turns out.

00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:01.200
No.

00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:03.680
Sorry.

00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:04.559
Okay.

00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:06.640
He lunges at you.

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:07.119
At me.

00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:08.720
Mid speech.

00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.119
Like you're giving a speech, or I'm giving a speech.

00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.079
I'm giving a speech and you lunge at me.

00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.200
Guess who's the can't fire snack now?

00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.400
That's what I say?

00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.000
Yeah, you kill me.

00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:20.480
Oh.

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.319
So you were possessed.

00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.480
So um I will be taking applications for a new co-host.

00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:29.519
It's been fun.

00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:30.640
Sorry, I've been fun.

00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:32.079
Sorry, I kill you.

00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:36.000
Is that a fun game or what?

00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.200
I mean, I don't feel like I'd kill you, but alright.

00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:41.759
Sorry.

00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.799
Okay, we're gonna go to Puerto Rico.

00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:45.839
Puerto Rico.

00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:46.720
Puerto Rico.

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:48.240
Is this the troopacabra?

00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:49.039
Yes.

00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.799
So the village of Canovanas.

00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:53.680
Okay.

00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:55.440
Puerto Rico.

00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:55.759
Yeah.

00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:56.799
Sleeping.

00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:58.880
Crickets are humming.

00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:01.119
Roosters are sleeping.

00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.960
Then the goats begin to scream.

00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.400
Don't they bleat?

00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:08.240
Is that what they do?

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:09.759
Do show us.

00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.359
I can't do that.

00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:23.279
Should I see if that yelling that yelling goat thing is free use, I can put it in here.

00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:26.559
I mean, it's a meme.

00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.240
It should be free use, right?

00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:29.279
Just saying.

00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.400
If no one copyrighted it, hey, am I right?

00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:33.119
Okay.

00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:34.160
Not often.

00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:44.240
When farmer Madeline Talentino reached her goat pen, she found eight of her animals collapsed in the dirt.

00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:45.839
Out of how many?

00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:47.440
I don't fucking know.

00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:48.559
That's important.

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:49.440
Is it though?

00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.400
Yeah, because if it's eight out of a hundred, that's only eight percent.

00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.039
And that's not very many.

00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:58.480
Am I wrong?

00:28:58.720 --> 00:28:59.359
Shut up.

00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:01.599
If it's eight out of ten, that's eighty percent.

00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:03.359
That's fucking terrible.

00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:04.880
Okay.

00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:06.480
Eight of them.

00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:07.119
Okay.

00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:07.920
Sorry.

00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.119
Each one had two puncture wounds at the neck.

00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:12.240
Vampire.

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:13.839
No tracks.

00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.359
No blood on the ground.

00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.079
Right.

00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:24.640
Every drop has been drained from as if by a thisty vampire.

00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.279
So even their bladder?

00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:30.000
That's a drop.

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:31.759
I'm talking blood.

00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:32.400
Oh, okay.

00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.359
You weren't you didn't you didn't clarify.

00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.599
At first, locals were like, this is a satanic cult.

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:40.640
Oh shit.

00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:42.000
Because obviously.

00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.160
I'm sorry, what year is this again?

00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.079
This is the year 1995.

00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:50.319
Oh, 30 years ago?

00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:50.880
Yeah.

00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.559
I turned 16 that year.

00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.319
Yeah, 1995.

00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:55.119
Wow.

00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.160
They're like vampire, satanic cult.

00:29:59.519 --> 00:29:59.759
Nervous.

00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.000
They look like Capri Suns, whatever.

00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.039
Capri suns.

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:03.440
You know what?

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:05.200
Did they have a strawana little rapper?

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:10.160
You know, like those Capri suns that are like the pouch, and then you suck them dry and they're like No, I get it.

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.640
I just gave them Like a disheveled mummy.

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:14.640
That's exactly where I was going.

00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:14.960
Yeah.

00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:15.119
Yeah.

00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:15.759
Okay.

00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:16.400
Okay, anyways.

00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.960
So over the next few nights, more attacks came.

00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:24.079
There were chickens, there were rabbits, cats, dogs, all found with the same puncture wounds.

00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:24.640
Okay.

00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.400
And someone, some witnesses saw they didn't, but okay.

00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:41.759
I don't know, but like there was something about four feet tall, gray green skin, big eyes, spines down its back.

00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.039
Isn't that usually where your spine goes?

00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:46.720
Like I know what you meant.

00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.359
I'm just making a stupid saurus.

00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.160
It moved like a kangaroo.

00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.319
Like I'm glad you finished kangaroo because it didn't sound like you said that at first.

00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.000
It moved like a kangaroo.

00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.480
No, it's at first sounded like you said nope.

00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:02.480
I'm gonna bleep that.

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:03.920
Mine.

00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.039
And then it also smelled like sulfur.

00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:08.160
Sulfur, okay.

00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:13.200
So Madeline drew a sketch and the press dubbed it El Chupacabra.

00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:15.759
So is there like a genesis of that name?

00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.279
Like, how did they come up with that?

00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.440
It's literally called the goat sucker.

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.799
So like it's it's Spanish.

00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:24.640
I did not realize that.

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:30.319
I mean, I knew it was Spanish, but I didn't know that was the liter literal like interpretation of it.

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:35.440
So if you ever just go up to somebody like, you're a chupacabra, you're calling them a goat sucker.

00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:36.480
Goat sucker.

00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.240
Oh, that's that brings new meaning to chupacabra.

00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.279
So within weeks, the panic spread across the island.

00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:44.000
Of course.

00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.559
Police patrols armed farmers, tabloid reporters, a few bore teenagers.

00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.960
So wait, the police armed the farmers or the armed, they were just armed farmers?

00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:54.960
Police patrols, comma.

00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:55.440
Okay.

00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.000
Armed farmers, comma.

00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.319
Tabloid reporters, comma.

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.039
Did they arm the tabloid reporters too?

00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:08.160
Some claimed to find strange claw marks.

00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:08.880
Well.

00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.559
Others said that the creature flew into the jungle.

00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:13.279
Alright.

00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.920
Well, that would make sense why there's no footprints.

00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:17.680
Then it jumped borders.

00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.920
We're talking Texas, Chile, Mexico, Florida.

00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:26.720
Wherever livestock bled dry, someone whispered chupacabra.

00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:28.559
I am so sorry.

00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:29.839
Wow.

00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.759
Even NASA caught some blame.

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.279
They caught blame?

00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:39.599
Conspiracy fans insisted that it was an escaped alien experiment.

00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:40.960
Oh, come on.

00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.680
Why does it always gotta go to fucking aliens?

00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:44.880
Okay, but wait.

00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:46.160
Jesus Christ.

00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:47.680
2004.

00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:49.920
21 years ago.

00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:51.839
2004.

00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:53.440
Yeah, I got that.

00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:55.680
Veterinarians.

00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:56.400
Okay.

00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:03.759
Finally examined, apparently, finally, examined these carcasses from one of the fresher attacks.

00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.200
I'd say because they examined a nine-year-old carcass.

00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:08.319
That seems odd.

00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.119
The k the killer was canine teeth.

00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:13.680
Sure.

00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.599
Feral dogs with mange.

00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:16.799
Right.

00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:17.920
That makes more sense.

00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:18.880
It makes more sense.

00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:20.079
Where's the footprint?

00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:21.359
No, no.

00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.799
They flew away.

00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:28.079
Well, I think I think when dogs get manged, they grow wings.

00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:28.880
I think so.

00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.440
I'm almost positive that's the case.

00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.759
So this was first reported in 1995 in Puerto Rico.

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.960
Isn't it weird to think about like it wasn't that long ago?

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:40.319
It's 30 years ago.

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.319
I like 30 years ago today, if it was today, I'd be 16.

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:48.319
I could drive a car, you'd be 10, so a little younger.

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:54.160
But isn't it kind of weird to like talk about something like this that evolved in our lifetime?

00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:54.880
That's weird.

00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.000
That's so fucking weird to think about because it's like, wait, what?

00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:58.559
Yeah.

00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:06.559
No, most of the shit, like the the Wendigo, you know, is 145 years ago or whatever, give or take.

00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.880
Or no, you said 1600s, even.

00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:10.239
I'm sorry, that's right.

00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:11.920
I'm just talking about when Swift Runner was around.

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.519
Yeah, that was 1879.

00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:14.000
Yeah.

00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.880
So, I mean, that's a hundred years before I was born.

00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:17.440
Yeah.

00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.519
1600s, obviously, that was over 400 years ago.

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.599
This was 30 years ago.

00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.679
It doesn't, I didn't know it was only that young, I guess, is what I'm saying.

00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:33.440
It's just it's weird to think about that's some legend or spooky whatever came up in our lifetime.

00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.920
Because normally it's shit from long ago.

00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:36.480
Right.

00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:37.440
Days of Yore.

00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.679
Back when people didn't know any better.

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.400
I mean, I think most people still don't know better.

00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:43.360
That's fair.

00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.920
So the classic description of the chupacabra is about four to five.

00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:48.639
Excuse me.

00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:48.960
Ooh.

00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.639
About four to five feet tall.

00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:50.960
Yeah.

00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.239
Gray or green scaly and or leathery skin.

00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:56.400
With the little stegosaurus spinals.

00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:56.880
Yes.

00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.119
Or quills potentially down the spine.

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:11.599
Oversized red or glowing eyes, leaps like a kangaroo, sometimes has wings, always has the bad breath, fangs capable of puncturing bone, and occasionally it leaves a sulfur smell.

00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:13.920
How do they know that it has bad breath?

00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.639
It was something that I just put in.

00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:30.159
It was maybe I think he hasn't been to the dentist in a while, so I'm gonna go with probably not even once.

00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:30.800
No.

00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.199
If you're sucking blood from a goat, you probably don't smell great.

00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:36.800
I've never tried.

00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.039
Yeah, let's let's keep it that way.

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:40.559
I don't know.

00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:42.000
I might get hungry apparently.

00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:49.840
So the Puerto Rican chip chupacabra was kind of alien-like, reptilian, sometimes linked to F UFOs.

00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:56.719
Then there's a Texan chupacabra, which is usually like a hairless coyote with mange.

00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:58.400
Hairless coyote, okay.

00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.559
And like deformalities.

00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:02.159
Deformities.

00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.280
There it is.

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:06.079
Deformalities.

00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.679
I I love how you speak sometimes.

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:11.519
I just make up words.

00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:14.480
Or character traits.

00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.519
So wildlife biologists trace most attacks to feral dogs, coyotes, raccoons.

00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:20.000
Right.

00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.239
Mange causes hair lice, hair, hair loss, and thickened skin.

00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.400
I mean, hair lice could be a thing too.

00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.360
And it kind of gives animals kind of a mutant look.

00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:29.920
Sure.

00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:36.000
Um, puncture wounds came from canine bites, where blood drains internally.

00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:36.960
Correct.

00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:38.159
Yeah, that makes sense.

00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:39.039
Yes.

00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:47.920
Um, so modern sightings, they do continue continue yearly in Texas, Mexico, and sometimes the Carolinas randomly.

00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:48.559
What?

00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:54.000
They usually end with it being like a hairless raccoon shit like that.

00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:55.440
Hairless raccoon.

00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:55.840
Okay.

00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:56.480
Poor guy.

00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:58.800
Scenario number two, the chupacabra.

00:36:58.960 --> 00:36:59.440
Oh dear.

00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:00.639
Roll number one.

00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:02.079
Roll number one.

00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:05.760
Four.

00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.840
Bright lights hover over the ranch.

00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:12.800
The goat panics.

00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.159
And something thuds onto the roof.

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:17.599
Of the ranch?

00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:18.639
Roll number two.

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:19.519
Oh jeez.

00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:20.639
There's only one.

00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.400
Are you kidding me?

00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.320
Oh, it's so far away.

00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:31.199
Should be fine.

00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:32.159
Roll number two.

00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:33.199
Sorry about that.

00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:35.119
Technical difficulties.

00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:36.800
Four again.

00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.840
What is up with the doubles here on the first two questions?

00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.519
The livestock starts staring at you, and one bleats your name.

00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:47.440
Bradley.

00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:48.639
Bradley.

00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:51.760
Roll number three.

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.079
Oh, that was scary in its own.

00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:58.239
Three.

00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:01.679
The ranch lights go out.

00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:02.239
No.

00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:08.639
Do you risk running to the generator in the dark or wait inside as something circles?

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:10.400
Flip a coin.

00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.559
Do I know that it's circling?

00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.159
This is not a time for questions.

00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:17.519
No, I'm sorry.

00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:20.400
Yes.

00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.760
You fix the lights just in time to spot it scurrying away.

00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:26.880
You lived.

00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:28.000
Oh, thank goodness.

00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.920
You lived against the chupacabra.

00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.320
Now I gotta go cook Kate up.

00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:32.880
What?

00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:33.679
What?

00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.119
Oh, these stories don't blend together?

00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:37.599
No.

00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:38.239
Okay.

00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:39.840
I have an itchy ear.

00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:40.800
For the love of God.

00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:42.639
For the God of love.

00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:43.519
Alright.

00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:44.480
Sorry about that.

00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.239
I will try and not drop the die again.

00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:46.639
Okay.

00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:47.519
My apologies.

00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.920
Now we're going to November 15th, 1966.

00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:53.519
Oh, so still not that long ago.

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.280
Point Pleasant, West Virginia.

00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:56.559
West Virginia.

00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.159
Two young couples, Roger and Linda Scarberry.

00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:00.480
Okay.

00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.559
And Stephen Mary Mallet.

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.119
Stephen Mary Stephen and Mary Mallet.

00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:07.440
Sounded like you said Stephen Mary Mallet.

00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.639
I mean, their Mallet is their last name.

00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:11.760
No, I never mind.

00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:12.719
There was no like.

00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.239
They were just whatever.

00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:17.199
Whateves.

00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:25.679
They were driving back roads near an old World War II munitions plant locals called the TNT area.

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:27.519
Was it Dun Dirt Cheap?

00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:29.599
ACDC.

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.280
So how old were these people?

00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:33.119
Uh, I don't know.

00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:34.079
They were young.

00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:35.760
Was that not a part of your research?

00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:37.039
Okay.

00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:38.960
So that's kind of necessary.

00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.519
It was just after midnight, and it was Appalachian area.

00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.440
There was a nice thick fog.

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:46.079
Okay.

00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.760
And the quiet that was almost like too quiet, you know?

00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:50.559
No.

00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.320
Up ahead, headlights caught something.

00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.320
A pair of glowing red eyes.

00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:57.760
It's probably a raccoon.

00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:58.639
Coyote.

00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.000
Not animal eyes reflecting light.

00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.039
These seem to generate light.

00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.800
Oh, well, you know.

00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:08.960
Have you ever shined a light in a dog's eye?

00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:10.079
Yeah, it's creepy.

00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:11.679
Yeah, it like reflects.

00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:12.000
Yeah.

00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:13.199
That's how they see at night.

00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.519
That's how we get red eye in pictures.

00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:17.280
I don't.

00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.440
Isn't it weird that red eyes like a not a thing anymore?

00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.199
With like the cameras and shit.

00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:24.639
Did you ever notice that?

00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:25.920
You don't really get that anymore.

00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:26.480
Not really.

00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:26.719
No.

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:27.519
Yeah, it's so weird.

00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.000
Even though there's still like a option to remove red eyes in like editing programs.

00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.320
I feel like um that's just an unnecessary add-on you gotta pay for it.

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:36.880
I'm just kidding.

00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.719
I have no idea what I'm talking about right now.

00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.920
Okay, so yeah, a shape emerged.

00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.400
It was big, Roger said.

00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:52.559
Like seven feet tall, wings folded behind it, gray color, like a big man with wings.

00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.719
It shuffled, then unfurled those wings.

00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:01.280
I'm guessing.

00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:04.320
Probably had bad breath too.

00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.480
And it rose into the air.

00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:07.039
Wow.

00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.440
The couple screamed, and Roger floored it.

00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:12.639
Did he hit it?

00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:14.079
The creature followed.

00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:15.199
Of course it did.

00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:15.920
It's hungry.

00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:16.800
Followed.

00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:17.599
For miles.

00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:18.239
Hooray.

00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.159
How much I'm getting into this.

00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:21.039
For miles.

00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.920
Yeah, your acting is just fucking on point right now.

00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.639
It chased the car down Highway 62.

00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.880
Oh, good old Highway 62.

00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.159
Keeping pace at nearly 100 miles an hour.

00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.199
I feel like they should have got a speeding ticket.

00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.199
Where are the cops, man?

00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:37.760
Seriously.

00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:42.320
When they finally made it into town, the thing veered off into the night sky.

00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:43.119
Gone.

00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:47.199
So there the four of them were in this car, and Roger was the one driving.

00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:48.000
Okay.

00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:52.960
Within days, Point Pleasant exploded with reports.

00:41:53.280 --> 00:42:00.800
People saw the same glowing eyes near homes on rooftops and hovering around the TNT domes.

00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.880
One man's dog even tried to chase after it.

00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:10.159
A local woman said it screamed like a mechanical banshee.

00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:13.280
I'm guessing.

00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.480
So then came the men in black.

00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:18.159
Will Smith showed up.

00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.000
Will Smith and Tommy Lee Johnson.

00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:21.440
Holy shit.

00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.920
Strangers in suits warning witnesses to stay quiet.

00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.400
Reporters descended.

00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:32.719
The Mothman name.

00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:34.480
Stuck.

00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:37.519
How Mothman?

00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:39.920
How did it get the Mothman name?

00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:42.079
Because he looked like a Mothman.

00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:44.639
He looked like a Mothman.

00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.400
So again, how did the Mothman come like name come to be though?

00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.159
Because just because he looked like a Mothman.

00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:56.320
I don't know.

00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:57.679
I didn't look it up.

00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.199
Seems pretty like, I don't know, weak.

00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:08.960
Because like if he's a seven foot tall fucking creature with wings, I don't know if you've seen a moth before in your life.

00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:09.920
I have.

00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:10.719
Creepy.

00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:11.840
Not that big.

00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:12.320
Mm-mm.

00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:13.920
Pretty tiny.

00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:19.119
So it is widely believed that it had been inspired by Batman.

00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:20.880
Man Bat?

00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:21.760
Man Bat.

00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:27.519
Did you know there's actually a comic character in the DC universe called Man Bat?

00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:27.920
Mm-mm.

00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:28.880
Yeah.

00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.559
It's like a way to fucking get creative.

00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:32.960
Yeah.

00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.480
Hey, what if we I got an idea.

00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.000
Let's create Man Super.

00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:39.360
What the fuck?

00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:40.639
Man Bat?

00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:46.320
There's a whole thing on the Man and on um Sheldon talks about on Oh really?

00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:47.679
The Big Bang Theory.

00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:49.920
Sheldon and the group, obviously.

00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.119
But about like, I'll have to play for you the clip of it sometime.

00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.679
Because they're like literally talking about if Man Bat dressed as Batman or something weird like that.

00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.599
I don't remember the details, but but yeah, there's actually a Man Bat.

00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.320
So I feel like Man Bat would be better than Mothman.

00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:04.719
Yeah.

00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:06.000
Maybe it's Man Moth.

00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:06.880
Man Moth.

00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:07.599
Okay.

00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:08.639
A year later.

00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:09.519
Oh, Jesus.

00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:11.760
December 15th, 1967.

00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:12.320
Wow.

00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.119
Just 10 days before Christmas.

00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:15.920
Oh shit.

00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.519
Rush hour traffic clogged the Silver Bridge.

00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:27.119
It was it spanned over, excuse me, spanned over the Ohio River between Point Pleasant, West Virginia.

00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:27.440
Okay.

00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.920
And Galapolos Galapolis, Ohio.

00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:32.400
Okay.

00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:35.199
At 5.04 PM.

00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:35.679
Yeah.

00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:40.239
With cars bumper to bumper, holiday shoppers heading home.

00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.679
Without warning, the bridge snapped.

00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:45.519
It just like went off.

00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.599
Yeah, we're like, Yeah, I get it.

00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:48.880
A lot of weight on it, probably.

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:49.440
Yeah.

00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:55.519
So the 31 vehicles plunged into the frozen water.

00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:57.760
46 people died.

00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:58.960
Holy fuck.

00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:00.239
That is sad.

00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:02.960
Many were trapped inside their cars.

00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:03.760
Right, yeah.

00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:04.159
Yeah.

00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:05.679
Two victims were never found.

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:06.320
Oh wow.

00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:08.559
Yeah, I don't even know how that happens.

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.480
Maybe they were riding a Vespa.

00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:11.440
Maybe.

00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:12.400
I don't know.

00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:14.719
Maybe Mothman ate them.

00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:24.000
Well, survivors decided, excuse me, survivors described the sound as a massive clap of thunder, and then there was silence.

00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.920
Only only the screams could they hear.

00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:28.559
Yeah.

00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:33.840
The cause was a single fractured eye bar link.

00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:34.639
Oh, Jesus.

00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.199
2.5 millimeters deep.

00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:38.480
That's wild.

00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:46.239
Over time, stress and corrosion caused what engineers called, quote, catastrophic brittle failure.

00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:50.159
It sounds catastrophic.

00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:51.920
I mean, that sounds fucking terrible.

00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:52.239
Yeah.

00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.199
So clearly they just what, I don't know, didn't do maintenance on this bridge.

00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:55.760
I have no idea.

00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:56.079
Ever?

00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:56.800
I have no idea.

00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:57.440
Wow.

00:45:57.679 --> 00:45:59.760
So how does that link into Mothman?

00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.760
Well, let me finish with this little bridge here.

00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:04.400
Sorry.

00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:05.360
No, that's okay.

00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:11.360
Because the bridge lacked redundancy in its design when one part failed, the entire structure followed, essentially.

00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:11.920
Yeah, yeah.

00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.480
So it had been built in 1928.

00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:15.039
Okay.

00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:19.199
Long before modern standards accounted for the vehicle's weights.

00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:20.639
The now vehicles' weights.

00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.079
Yeah, which obviously increased exponentially from that year.

00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:29.599
So locals could not ignore the timing.

00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:30.880
Oh, Jesus.

00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:38.079
For over a year, sightings of the Mothman had plagued Pount Mount, nope, Point Pleasant.

00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:42.639
You're gonna say Mount Pleasant, which is a uh town in Wisconsin.

00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:51.280
Tall, dark, with glowing red eyes, the creature was seen by dozens, and after the bridge collapsed, the sightings stopped.

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:56.239
Some believed it was a warning, others an omen.

00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:03.519
Either way, the Mothman legend and the local bridge disaster became forever entwined.

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.639
Do you think he might have been driving home with his gifts and just was one of the people that died?

00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:09.519
Probably.

00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:10.960
I mean, that makes the most sense.

00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:12.079
That makes the most sense.

00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.440
Do you want to circle back to Mount Pleasant real quick?

00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.880
I always thought it was funny when I drive through Mount Pleasant and I see a police car because it says Mount Pleasant Police.

00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.679
I would never want to mount an angry one.

00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:25.360
Anyways.

00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:30.639
I mean, am I wrong?

00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:38.079
So between 1966 and 67, over a hundred reported sightings occurred within 13 months.

00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:39.360
That's that's a lot.

00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:40.239
That's a lot, yeah.

00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:41.920
It's described as how many?

00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:42.559
A hundred?

00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.280
I mean, damn, that's 13 months.

00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:48.880
It's almost 10 a month.

00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:51.599
Well, a little less, but you know what I mean.

00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.920
That's that's quite a quite quite often.

00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:54.320
Yeah.

00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:55.679
It's about one a week, roughly.

00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:56.079
Yeah.

00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:56.960
Give or take.

00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:02.639
So it's always described as a tall gray humanoid with like 10 foot wings and glowy red eyes.

00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.280
So was it always like portrayed as like a roughly seven-foot creature?

00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:07.840
Yes.

00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.239
In every story or every sighting or whatever.

00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:16.000
Well, most of the sightings occurred around that World War II bunker.

00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:20.480
So it was probably an alien they just let out for some playtime.

00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:21.119
Probably.

00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.360
I mean, it all comes back to aliens.

00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:24.159
Everything does.

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:24.960
It does.

00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.719
So some theories say like the sandhill cranes.

00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:31.199
Oh, yeah.

00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.280
Large migratory bird with a seven-foot wingspan, red flesh around its eyes.

00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.559
Well, that's true, yeah.

00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.079
Some cranes can hit around 100 miles an hour.

00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:43.280
Can they really?

00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:44.239
Holy fuck.

00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:45.360
I never knew that.

00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:46.960
An owl theory.

00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:47.360
Yeah.

00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:54.800
Like misidentification in the headlights, but the 100 miles an hour doesn't really work for that.

00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:02.320
Um, mutants, the TNT area, chemical waste, mutant bird, Godzilla.

00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:04.639
Makes me think of the Toxic Avenger.

00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:06.320
Aliens.

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:08.559
Aliens.

00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:09.679
Oh, that one too.

00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:10.400
Yes.

00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:10.960
Okay.

00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:11.760
Yeah.

00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.440
So every year in Point Pleasant.

00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:16.559
Do they have a Mothman?

00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:19.280
They have a Mothman Festival.

00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:20.480
Look at me go.

00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.599
They celebrate the Mothman.

00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.559
Isn't that kind of a weird thing to celebrate, especially when like what's they're like, hey, 46 people die.

00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:38.480
Let's celebrate the death of 46 people on this bridge that we just so happen to like associate with this weird creature that we think existed at one point.

00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:38.880
Yeah.

00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:44.800
When it was just really shoddy bridge like craftsmanship and lack of maintenance for that matter.

00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:45.360
Yeah.

00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:45.920
Um.

00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:48.800
Why would you sell?

00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:49.679
Okay.

00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:51.119
So how do they celebrate?

00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:51.679
Let me know.

00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.519
It started in 2002.

00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:54.079
Okay.

00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:59.679
It actually was to one honor the local folklore, but also boost tourism.

00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:00.480
Of course.

00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:07.440
So there are costume contests, guest speakers encrypted and paranormal entities.

00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:07.920
Yeah.

00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:14.639
Tours of the TNT area, live music, food vendors, Mothman merch.

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:20.800
Okay, so I have to interject this because I just saw this again not that long ago.

00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:27.039
Speaking of like, we talked about the Warrens where she was a demonologist and all that, right?

00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:29.519
She was a clairvoyant.

00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:30.079
He was a demon.

00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:31.119
He was a demonologist.

00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:32.719
I'm sorry, he was a demonologist.

00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.199
But then what you just said kind of reminded me of that.

00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:39.039
And have you ever heard of the uh comedian Mateo Lane?

00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:40.880
I don't think so.

00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.280
He's a gay comedian, very open about it.

00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:44.800
He's fucking hilarious.

00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:45.519
I love that.

00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.039
Like, I love seeing his videos.

00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:53.039
And he was shitting on this um uh ghost, whatever show.

00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.199
I don't remember the name of it off the top of my head.

00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:56.800
I'd have to see the video again.

00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:00.079
And he he's like shitting on the host of it.

00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.559
He's like, I'm a demonologist.

00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.440
He's like, um I'm gonna I'm paraphrasing not getting this right.

00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:16.480
But basically, he says, like, I don't know what'd be worse coming out as gay to your parents or telling them I'm gonna be a demonologist.

00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:21.679
It's fucking hilarious the way he delivers it because he's just he's just so good at what he does, yeah.

00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:26.719
But he's very funny, so I'll I'll have to show you some clips of him because he's fucking great.

00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:33.199
Um, but what you just said is like just reminding me of that because it's like, how can you celebrate that?

00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.039
Seriously, anyways.

00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:42.639
So the festival attracts thousands of visitors every year from all over the world, it is centered around the Mothman Museum.

00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:43.920
There's a museum.

00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.480
What kind of artifacts do they have in this museum?

00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.760
No, I'm gonna go with literally none because there aren't any.

00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.679
There is a 12-foot chrome monument with abs.

00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:57.519
Like abs?

00:51:58.159 --> 00:51:58.719
Abs.

00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:00.079
I don't have any.

00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:01.519
I have a I have a keg.

00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.039
And then there was um a film, well, a book and a film, The Mothman Prophecies.

00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.079
Prophecies, yeah.

00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:08.639
I knew that.

00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.079
There was a book from 1975 and the film from 2002.

00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:13.840
I knew of the film, yeah.

00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.480
I never I didn't know it was based off a book.

00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:17.360
I didn't either.

00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:18.480
We'll have to look into that.

00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:19.599
Yeah, for sure.

00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:21.760
Now onto the game.

00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:22.800
Roll number one.

00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:24.639
Roll number one for Mothman.

00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:25.840
Mothman.

00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:27.280
Prophecies.

00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:34.000
Two glowing eyes reflect in your flashlight from deep in the tree line.

00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:37.199
They blink sideways.

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:40.000
Roll number two.

00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:41.599
I'm scared.

00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:45.199
Six.

00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:52.000
Mothman lands beside you and speaks one phrase of prophecy.

00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.880
You must improvise what it says.

00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:57.760
This is part.

00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.599
Did did you just Joe Biden that?

00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:03.360
What's that mean?

00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.480
He would read the teleprompter and be like, Yeah, I did.

00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:07.920
Wait for applause.

00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.800
Mothman leans beside you and speaks one phrase of prophecy.

00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.280
You must Bradley, you must improvise what it says.

00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.039
The more dramatic, the better.

00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:26.239
What does Mothman say to you when he lands next to you?

00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.000
Eat your co-host.

00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.239
Okay, roll number three.

00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:35.760
One.

00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:40.800
Jesus Christ.

00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:50.559
You see a vision of disaster, but saving others might kill you.

00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:51.440
Oh, Jesus.

00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.920
Do you warn them or run?

00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:56.159
Flip a coin.

00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:00.000
No.

00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.159
You warn them, but nobody believes you.

00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:05.039
Well, why would they?

00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:07.599
You're flattened by poetic irony.

00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:10.159
So I die?

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:12.400
At least I die.

00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:14.159
At least I die full.

00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:16.239
Wow.

00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:18.800
That sucked.

00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:20.400
I don't want to die.

00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:25.519
Alright.

00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:29.599
So we are gonna go to 1967.

00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.000
Like these are all like king, bam, boom.

00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:33.280
Yeah, that's just wild.

00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.280
I mean, again, you just think these the shit is older, you know?

00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:41.760
We're gonna go to Northern California, October 20th, 1967.

00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.880
Holy shit, that was just a couple days ago.

00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:45.920
Plus 60.

00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:47.119
The Redwoods.

00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:47.840
Yes.

00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:49.360
Where Star Wars was filmed.

00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.679
They're silent except for like the little critters, little insects.

00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:57.280
There was a distant buzz of a film camera.

00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.840
Are we talking about the staged fucking film?

00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:11.039
Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin rode their horses through Bluff Creek Valley.

00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:11.599
Okay.

00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:17.039
A rugged strip of forest that felt ancient enough to swallow many secrets.

00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:17.679
Okay.

00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:22.400
Roger, a rodeo cowboy with a taste for mystery.

00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.079
Which rodeo cowboy doesn't have a taste for mystery?

00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.599
We had one goal to prove that the stories were real.

00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:30.880
Okay.

00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:34.400
Tell me how.

00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:36.960
Wow.

00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:39.280
They're real.

00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:40.400
Okay.

00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:46.639
For years, loggers and hunters had whispered of a giant hairy creature.

00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:46.960
Yeah.

00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.800
Half man, half ape haunting these woods.

00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:51.360
Right.

00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.440
They called it Bigfoot.

00:55:53.920 --> 00:56:00.239
A name born from the massive 16-inch tracks found in 1958.

00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:05.199
So that's when the first tracks were found, give or take, obviously.

00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:06.239
At least in America.

00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:07.199
Well, right, right, right.

00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:13.360
Because Yeti and Bigfoot is the same thing at different locations, more or less.

00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:14.159
More or less.

00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:15.679
Yeah, I know there's some differences.

00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:17.280
Right.

00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:22.880
But more or less, it's kind of along the same line, as I guess what I'm saying.

00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:23.119
Okay.

00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:25.760
I think Yeti would be more like snowbound.

00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:26.400
Snowbound.

00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:30.159
Yeah, but I mean, it snows in Northern California, right?

00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:31.360
Oh.

00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:32.159
Never been.

00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:32.719
Never been.

00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:33.679
I've been there once.

00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:35.199
At 115.

00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:35.599
Yeah.

00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.840
The horses are suddenly spooked.

00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:39.199
Not the horses.

00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:43.119
Bob turned, and there was the squatch.

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:44.239
She was.

00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.000
How did he know it was a sheep?

00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:46.559
I don't know.

00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:47.760
They have furry titties?

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:48.639
I'll say so.

00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:49.679
That's weird.

00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:54.480
It walked upright, he said, swinging its arms like a person.

00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:54.880
Yeah.

00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.920
Covered in dark brown hair, about seven feet tall.

00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:02.239
I never knew that video was considered they considered that a female at that.

00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:03.840
I never heard that before.

00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.280
I just always assumed it was a male for some reason.

00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:08.719
Maybe I typoded it.

00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:10.880
I mean, that's probable.

00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:12.800
Actually, more likely.

00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:16.239
Robert, Robert, Roger scrambled for his camera.

00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:16.960
Yeah.

00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:17.440
Okay.

00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:31.760
The 16 millimeter film whirled her life, and the creature glanced over its shoulder, that famous sideways look, and calmly walked into the trees, vanishing like smokes in between the trunks.

00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:36.639
That was poetic, and I'm just if I could cry, I would right now.

00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:38.480
No to the podcast.

00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:39.679
I don't know how.

00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:51.039
The Patterson Gimlin film ran for just under a minute, but it became the most analyzed piece of cryptid footage in history.

00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.199
But here's here's the problem.

00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:06.320
Believers show swore that it showed muscle movement.

00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.199
Are you have you seen this video?

00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:09.840
I have not.

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:11.360
You've never actually watched that?

00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:18.159
There's no fucking way that you can see muscle movement in that video.

00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:20.719
There's no fucking way.

00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:26.480
Okay, so native legends predate Bigfoot.

00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:31.679
Tribes across North America tell tales of Sasquatch.

00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:33.199
Correct, which, yes.

00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:33.840
Mm-hmm.

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.480
A hairy, human-like forest guardian.

00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:36.880
Yeah.

00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:37.679
Guardian?

00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:39.039
What did he guard?

00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:39.679
The forest.

00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:45.119
Often seen not as monsters, but as ancient people of the woods.

00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:51.119
Spiritual, reclusive, sometimes protectors, sometimes thieves.

00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:54.480
You know, like a bear in in a campfire, in a camp, you know.

00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:55.280
Site.

00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:57.280
In a campfire.

00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:09.199
The name Bigfoot entered pop culture in 1958 when bulldozer operator Jerry Crew discovered enormous footprints near Bluff Creek, California.

00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:09.519
Okay.

00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:14.880
Newspapers printed photos, and the myth went viral national.

00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:15.760
Yeah.

00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:17.840
Old school viral.

00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:18.079
Yeah.

00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:24.000
Patterson and Gimlin's 1967 footage cemented it as America's favorite cryptid.

00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.039
Well, I mean, it is obviously the most popular.

00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:28.880
I mean, that's the one you always hear about.

00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:29.280
Yeah.

00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.559
And there are firm believers that Bigfoot exists.

00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:32.880
Yeah.

00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.880
And there's probably people that hunt for Bigfoot all the time.

00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:38.960
There's one on the way to Appleton.

00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:40.000
A Bigfoot?

00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:40.800
Yeah.

00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:42.320
There really isn't.

00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:43.199
Yeah, I see it.

00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:43.440
No.

00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:45.840
Whenever I go to Appleton, there's a Bigfoot in the woods.

00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:49.119
Is it that metal statue like I used to see on my way out to Whitewater?

00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:49.760
It's wooden.

00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.400
I saw a metal one and it had a baby squatch.

00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.639
So here's the thing though.

00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:59.440
If this was anywhere real, where's the fucking boat?

01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:01.679
They they die.

01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:04.960
I can't imagine they're immortal.

01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.639
Do you know what the difference between immortal and invincible is?

01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:11.599
Immortal, you can still die.

01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:14.880
Did you know that?

01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:15.920
Immoral.

01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:16.960
Immortal.

01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:18.000
It was like what?

01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:19.199
Not immoral.

01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:20.159
Immortal.

01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:20.960
You can still die.

01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:21.679
By like what?

01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:22.559
Cutting your head off?

01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.159
Being stabbed with a stake.

01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:25.440
Shot by a gun.

01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:26.159
Yeah.

01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.280
So the description of Bigfoot.

01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:30.400
That was fun.

01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:32.480
Seven to ten feet tall.

01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:33.920
Seven to ten feet.

01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:34.719
Holy fuck.

01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:36.000
Up to 800 pounds.

01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:36.960
How would they know?

01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:43.039
Covered in brown or black hair, occasionally reddish, like a little red tone under there, you know.

01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:44.239
If they just got their highlights.

01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:45.440
Yeah, right.

01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:47.119
If the sun like shines on them just right.

01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:49.039
Oh, I just thought they went to the hairdresser.

01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:54.639
Often accompanied by a musky, foul odor like wet dog.

01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:56.000
And bad breath.

01:00:56.159 --> 01:01:00.480
And known behaviors like tree knocking, rock throwing.

01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:01.760
Are you their tree?

01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.960
Hurling and camera shyness.

01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:10.079
Because they don't exist.

01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:13.119
Okay, so there is an undiscovered primate.

01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:14.800
That is a theory.

01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.480
Gigantopithecus.

01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:19.599
I've heard of that, yeah.

01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:20.880
Gigantopithecus.

01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:24.159
A giant ape species that crossed from Asia.

01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:29.840
And then we have a relicit hominid.

01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:31.199
Oh, I love hominids.

01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:34.000
A surviving cousin of early humans.

01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:34.639
Okay.

01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:36.880
A hoax.

01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:38.719
Yeah.

01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.320
Or interdimensional interdimensional being.

01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:42.960
Oh.

01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:44.079
I didn't know that.

01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.800
That makes that's that makes so much sense now.

01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:47.280
Yeah.

01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:51.840
They literally, the reason why they're never filmed is because they leave this dimension and go to their own.

01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:52.400
They do.

01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:53.840
Or another one for that matter.

01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:54.400
They do.

01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:55.039
Alright.

01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:57.199
I believe in Sasquatch, yeah.

01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:01.280
Thousands of footprint casts have been collected.

01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:02.239
They haven't been.

01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:14.800
Some showing dermal ridges like fingerprints, hair samples, scat, nearly all um inconclusive or attributed to known animals.

01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:15.679
Weird.

01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:16.400
Weird.

01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:24.400
You're telling me that the shit they recovered didn't come from a Sasquatch, but a fucking dog or a canine or coyote, whatever you want to say.

01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:25.679
Are you serious?

01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.440
I can't believe that's false.

01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:32.400
So every US state except for Hawaii reports Bigfoot encounters.

01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:33.360
Do you know why?

01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:35.119
They don't like to swim.

01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:40.159
Washington, Oregon, and Northern California lead the pack in sighting.

01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.480
I say the Pacific Northwest typically is what you hear these stories about.

01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:45.039
So yeah.

01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:46.559
In Oklahoma.

01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:47.920
Oklahoma.

01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:50.559
Oh, good lord.

01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.840
You can buy a book Bigfoot hunting license.

01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.760
How many have been captured with the said license?

01:02:58.079 --> 01:02:59.119
It wasn't part of my research.

01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:00.559
I'm gonna go with a zero route.

01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.400
It doesn't fucking need to be a part of your research.

01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:04.079
Zero have been caught.

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.119
Alright, let's move on to the game.

01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:11.760
Bigfoot, roll number one.

01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:15.679
God damn it.

01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:17.519
Six.

01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.639
You realize you've wandered into mating season.

01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:24.079
Damn right I did.

01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:28.880
The growl behind you says, I'm not impressed with this backside.

01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:30.800
Oh Jesus.

01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:32.320
Oh dear.

01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:34.320
Roll number two.

01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:35.920
What the fuck?

01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.920
Four, not impressed with this backside.

01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:46.639
It copies your voice, then your laugh, then whispers your full name.

01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:48.960
Roll number three.

01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:53.599
Two.

01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:58.960
Bigfoot leaves you a pile of shiny rocks.

01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:01.119
Oh, that's so nice.

01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:02.719
What the fuck?

01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:05.280
Bradley of history buffoons.

01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:08.000
Here's some rocks.

01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.880
I got some eggs and some other ones.

01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:11.920
I got some quartz?

01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:12.480
Quartz?

01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:13.599
Agus?

01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:14.400
Amethyst?

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You're gonna love these.

01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:16.079
You're gonna love these.

01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:17.760
They're gonna look great in your collection.

01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:21.039
Do you take one or leave an offering of your own?

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Roll the uh flip the coin.

01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:24.480
Jesus.

01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:26.880
Yes.

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You leave a shiny bottle cap.

01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.400
Friendship achieved.

01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:36.639
I am friends with the squatch.

01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:37.920
The squash.

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And then we dance.

01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:39.920
Okay.

01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:46.320
Woo! That was the Wendigo, the Chupacabra, the Mothman and Bigfoot.

01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:50.400
And all the survival scenarios that were really terrible.

01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:56.559
I mean, I I don't like the fact that I died in the the Mothman one.

01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:57.519
No one believes.

01:04:58.000 --> 01:04:59.519
Now you're friends with Bigfoot.

01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:03.360
And we're gonna run off into the Redwoods and live happily ever after.

01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:05.199
Even though it doesn't like my backside.

01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:06.960
How am I supposed to get any?

01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:08.400
Oh no, you're just friends now.

01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:09.280
Sorry, sir.

01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:12.800
You're just friends now.

01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:13.679
Oh, thank God.

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.400
Oh, I suppose, yeah, because we we shared gifts.

01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:17.519
So now we're just friends.

01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:19.519
So it doesn't matter about my backside.

01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:21.360
I wouldn't want a hairy backside either.

01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:23.039
Now it's bros before hose.

01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:25.039
Did you say rose?

01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:25.519
Hose.

01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:26.000
Oh, okay.

01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:27.119
Bros before hose.

01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:28.480
Bros, bros, yeah.

01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:28.960
Yeah.

01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.440
Hairy bros before hose.

01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:32.880
Sorry, Sarah.

01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:36.320
I gotta say it again now because I feel like I just offended her.

01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.079
My apologies, Sarah.

01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:42.239
Oh my goodness.

01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:46.800
I still think I'd pick Sarah over my newfound friend.

01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:48.400
Said Sasquatch.

01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:49.199
Yeah.

01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:50.880
But um, anyways.

01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:52.800
How did you like your gin and tonic?

01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:53.760
I liked it very much.

01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:55.280
Unfortunately, it didn't last very long.

01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.199
So I'm I just finished mine.

01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:58.079
You did, you did.

01:05:58.159 --> 01:05:59.039
How did you enjoy yours?

01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:00.400
Oh, I love gin and tonic.

01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:00.880
So good.

01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.599
Isn't that a weird like origin for gin and tonic?

01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.039
I never knew that.

01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:07.199
So Emma Watson.

01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:07.840
Oh, yeah.

01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:09.039
We yeah, you can go ahead.

01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:12.880
Emma Watson, who plays Hermione Granger in the Harry Potter movies.

01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:13.840
Well, she played.

01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.679
She doesn't play, but yes.

01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:16.480
Okay.

01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:18.159
Well, I mean, it's semantics.

01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:18.480
Sure.

01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:19.280
Proper wording.

01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:20.800
She hasn't done it in years.

01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:25.360
She and her brother have their own company where they make gin.

01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:26.880
Yeah, out of France, right?

01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:28.079
I think it is out of France.

01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:28.719
Believe it.

01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.000
And it's like her her family's like vineyard or something.

01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:33.199
Something like that, yeah.

01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:43.360
Um, but we actually tried to buy some of that, but they don't ship to pretty much any state that him or I would have relation to.

01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:44.000
Yeah.

01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:54.960
So like I have access to Arizona, Colorado, um, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, and uh and Wisconsin, and we can't get it anywhere.

01:06:55.280 --> 01:07:02.800
And I didn't even look at Vegas, but it's like, I'm not gonna drive out to Vegas to see Al, which I'd love to do, to just bring a bottle of gin back.

01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:03.199
Yeah.

01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:04.400
So we tried to order it.

01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:05.519
I tried to order it.

01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.719
Um, apparently it's available in 35 states.

01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.679
Just not any of the ones that have access to.

01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:16.239
So uh we are trying to do that because, well, we're both big Harry Potter fans.

01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:18.960
Um, I I like Emma Watson, she's great.

01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.079
Don't know much about her brother, just that it's her brother.

01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:26.639
Yeah, but uh, so we are trying to I've been trying to do this for a while.

01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:33.119
I've been sitting on this gin and tonic uh little origin thing um for a while.

01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:39.280
But uh we just decided, uh let's just get normal gin that we could get at the store, local store kind of thing.

01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:45.199
Yeah, so um we did that, but yeah, I know I never knew that's kind of how gin and tonic came about.

01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:54.559
Yeah, had no idea so that was the fact that it was um to help battle malaria, no idea.

01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:55.920
Yeah, so that was kind of funny.

01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:00.960
So I had to share that because you I I know we both like gin and tonics, so I thought that was funny.

01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:03.920
Yeah, but anyways, well, I suppose.

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