March 23, 2026

Flamma Lamma Ding Dong: Flamma The Gladiator

Flamma Lamma Ding Dong: Flamma The Gladiator
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A single tombstone inscription from Sicily gives us a gladiator story that feels too weird to be real: Flamma, a Syrian-born fighter in Ancient Rome, steps into the arena 34 times, wins 21, fights to nine draws, loses four, and then gets offered freedom four separate times. And he turns it down. Every. Single. Time.

We walk through what that record actually means in Roman gladiator combat, including why the “fight to the death” myth falls apart once you understand how expensive fighters are to train and how mercy decisions work. We also break down Flamma’s fighting class as a secutor and the built-in drama of facing a retiarius with a net and trident, plus what it must have felt like to fight inside a heat-trapping helmet with tiny eye holes while a crowd demands action.

From there, we zoom in on the ludus, the gladiator training school that functions like a high-security sports academy: heavier practice weapons, relentless drilling, supervised sparring, a barley-heavy diet that builds muscle and padding, and surprisingly serious medical care (including the famous physician Galen’s connection to gladiator schools). Finally, we ask the question that won’t go away: if the rudus is the wooden sword that symbolizes freedom, why would a celebrity fighter refuse it and stay in the system that could kill him?

We wrap with a lighter detour into idioms like “right as rain” and “I smell a rat.” If you like smart history with a buffoon streak, subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave us a rating and review.

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00:00 - Welcome And Beer Banter

03:46 - A Tombstone Reveals Flamma

10:04 - Inside The Ludus Training Life

15:20 - Secutor Versus Retiarius Explained

21:40 - Wins Draws Defeats And Mercy

26:00 - Why Flamma Refused The Rudus

31:40 - Lost Tombstone And Colosseum Questions

33:59 - Idioms Right As Rain

40:13 - Where To Find Us Next

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Oh hey there.

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Oh hey there.

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How are you today?

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I'm good.

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How are you?

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I am well.

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I am Bradley.

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And I'm Kate.

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This is the History of Buffoons.

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Welcome.

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Yes, welcome.

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To another episode.

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What do you got for us today?

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We are gonna talk about Flamma.

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Flamma Lamma Ding dong?

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Flamelama ding dong the gladiator.

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Flamma the gladiator.

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Yeah.

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So we are talking Roman times.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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Yes.

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I mean you you hesitated.

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Well, Roman is still a thing, but yeah.

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Ancient Roman things.

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Oh, there you go.

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Ancient Roman.

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I forgot the A for ancient.

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My apologies.

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I just have my trusty modello today.

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I, however, have Saint Bernadus.

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That is quite the bottle.

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It is.

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It is not cheap either.

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My brother's favorite beer.

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Is it?

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Corey who wrote our music for us.

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And uh while I'm unscrewing this and uncorking it, if you like us, follow all that stuff, support our show on our website, link at the top.

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We appreciate anyone who uh listens to us.

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So um this is Corey's favorite beer.

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Ooh, a nice little pop to the quark.

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It's um a beer you wouldn't really care for.

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It's more like oh, what was that one we just had that wasn't far off from it?

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You had it.

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Um It's like uh I just lost the wording.

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Christ.

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It's made by monks.

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But it's really delicious.

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What kind of beer is it?

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It is too hard for me to read.

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It's a product of Belgium.

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Yes, it's um what do they call it?

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Abby?

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Abby triple?

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Abby triple, is that right?

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Holy Christ.

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I need to drink something.

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Something in my throat.

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Cheers.

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Cheers.

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Oh my gosh.

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Have you had this beer before?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's really good.

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I got this glass for my brother from my father-in-law.

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For your brother?

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Yeah, but he forgot it last time it was over.

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That was uh, I don't know how long ago that was a little bit, but so I'm like, well, I might as well, you know, it's an actual Saint Bernadist glass.

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So thought I should drink it properly.

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Yeah.

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And uh yeah, it's uh buy a four-pack, it's like twenty-three or four dollars.

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Okay, that's a lot, yeah.

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But I mean, how big was that bottle?

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This well, you don't get four of those.

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Like a four-pack is like regular size bottles.

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Okay, got it.

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This is uh 19.

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whatever.

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Yeah.

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Um, it's 10%.

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So how much was that one single bottle?

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One pint nine point four fluid ounces, so it's twenty-five point four ounces.

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Uh, this was thirteen bucks for just this one.

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So you get a couple beers out of it.

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Heck yeah.

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Or a couple glasses, if you will.

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It's derish.

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So awesome.

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So we're talking about flamading dong.

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Yeah, so in uh Sicily, oh hey, um island.

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Yes, yes, okay.

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In the earth somewhere in Sicily, there was a slab of limestone that was discovered.

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Um, time had worn its edges, letters weren't exactly ornate.

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Sure.

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Um, but the message was um about a man named Flamma.

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Flamma.

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Yes.

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That's an interesting name.

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It is his tombstone.

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Don't know if he's actually buried there, if it was just like a marker of some kind.

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Okay.

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What was that?

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What was what?

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There was a ding-dong.

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Not like a not like a house ding-dong, but no, there was like a jingle.

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I I did not hear it.

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I think I made it up.

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I think you a Mandela effect.

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No, wait, that doesn't work for that.

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No, you made it up.

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I mean, maybe, I don't know.

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I didn't hear it.

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So, um, again, not sure if it was just a marker, but sure.

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Um, the inscription was a little like statistic.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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It listed his profession, his origin, and the tally of his career in the arena.

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How how good was he?

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So it said that Flama was Syrian by birth.

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Syrian.

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He was a secular gladiator.

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What is do you know what that means?

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It was a type of Roman gladiator um that literally means like pursuer or chaser.

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And the role was designed to hunt down and defeat a Retarius, which is a lightly armored gladiator who fought with a net and a trident.

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Oh, okay.

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So some of these words you're gonna hear throughout.

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Sure.

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But he was a secutor.

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Okay.

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He fought 34 times.

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Damn.

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He won 21 victories.

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What happened to the other 13?

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He fought nine draws.

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Oh, okay.

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And lost four times.

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I thought if you lost, you died.

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Not necessarily.

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Well, so I don't remember how long ago I heard this, but it was more or less that like everything we know about um gladiators isn't entirely true.

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Yeah.

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Whereas like they said it was more like wrestling today back then, where you had these people and it was more or less scripted.

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I'm like, really?

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Oh.

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That's not what Gladiator the movie taught me.

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And that's what I base everything off of Gladiators.

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That is historical.

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It's a historical document.

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Yeah, it is.

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So I I don't know if that's true, of course.

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I never really fully looked into it because I also kind of don't want to.

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Yeah.

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Because I feel like it will ruin the myth of the gladiator legend, you know.

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So the rest of the line on this limestone said that he was offered the rudus.

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The rudest?

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Oh, is that the wooden sword from yeah, it's the wooden sword that symbolized freedom.

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Yeah.

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He was offered it four times.

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Oh, wow.

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And denied it four times.

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He just really liked being a gladiator.

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Something.

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Wow, okay.

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Isn't that crazy?

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That is wild.

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So it was the prize at the end of years of brutal training and combat, and yet there's this man who received it four times or was four times, yeah.

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Yeah, and declined it every time.

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Every time that's wild, okay.

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So the tombstone doesn't say anything else about Flama other than that's those statistics, but it does offer enough clues for us for history historians to kind of piece things together.

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Okay.

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So Flama was born somewhere in Syria, a region that is uh in the second century, which was part of the Roman Empire at the time.

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Sure.

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Where where is is Syria still a thing today, correct?

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Yeah, I think so.

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I believe, right?

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Yeah, it's in the Middle East.

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That right, okay.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's uh between Turkey and Iraq.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I go there a lot in my dreams.

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So exactly where in Syria.

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Um nobody knows.

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Nobody knows, of course, which I mean lost the records or time, I should say.

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Yep, and it just tells us that he's not Roman.

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Right, yeah.

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So he was a foreigner, likely taken from his homeland and drawn into the Roman cog.

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It's just like Maximus, he was they called him Spaniard because he was from Spain, and Russell Crowe does not look Spanish.

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Maybe that's why he got so tangent.

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I love that movie so much.

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Yeah, one of my favorites of all time.

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We also don't know exactly how he became a gladiator.

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Um, there were several paths into the arena.

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Okay.

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Um, some gladiators were prisoner of war, um, captured during Roman campaigns and sold into slavery.

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Yep.

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Others were criminals condemned by the courts.

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Yep.

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Um, but surprisingly, quite a few people also volunteered.

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Well, because you could get rich doing it, and you could get fame and fortune and all that stuff.

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I mean, I guess I was redundant by saying rich and fame, but either way.

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Yeah.

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Or fortune.

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I mean, god, I fucked that up really bad.

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But debt and poverty and desperation pushed many people into this agreement.

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So you you like fuck, I got nothing.

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What am I gonna do?

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Well, I can go kill people in the in the arena and try and better our situation.

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So yeah, I get that.

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So because the inscription on the tombstone names him as Syrian and does not describe him as a Roman uh citizen, historians often suspect that he may have begun life in the arena as a slave gladiator, which or perhaps purchased by a slave or excuse me, a gladiator school.

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Sure, I could I could see that being a rational thought process because if he's not from there, yeah, for sure.

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But he eventually arrived at one of the Empire's gladiator training schools known as the Ludus.

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Ludus.

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Okay.

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The word Ludus technically means school, but these were unlike anything else.

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Right.

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A gladiator school was part training camp, part prison, part professional, like athletic facility.

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Um, high walls surrounded the complex.

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Sure.

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Armed guards would stand watch.

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Oh dear.

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Fighters lived, trained, and prepared for the moment when they would step into the arena.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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So the men who ran these schools were called the Lanniste.

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To the Romans, the profession had a unsavory reputation.

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Okay.

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The Lanniste bought and sold gladiators, trained them, and rented them out to the sponsors of public games.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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Um, but from a financial perspective, gladiators were were valuable assets.

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Sure, yeah, no, no doubt.

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So a skilled fighter could bring prestige and profits.

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Uh, so training was very serious.

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Okay.

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And a new recruit like Flamma would begin with a wooden weapon.

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Yeah, yeah, makes sense.

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Heavy wooden swords and shields were used to teach technique and endurance.

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Yep.

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And these practice weapons were often heavier than the real things, so that when the gladiator finally fought with steel, the equipment felt lighter in the hands.

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Well, that's just like uh in baseball.

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I know, I was just gonna say that.

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When the batter's going up the bat, he's taking his practice swings, he puts that weight on it.

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Yep.

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So he gets that movement better and all of the things.

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Yeah, so that makes sense.

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It does.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So training was relentless.

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The gladiators drilled in footwork, balance, precision.

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They learned how to block, how to maneuver, how to survive long enough to entertain a crowd without also being killed.

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Right.

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And life inside the Ludus uh followed a very strict routine.

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Okay.

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Morning hours were devoted to conditioning and drills.

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Sure.

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Gladiators practiced striking poses.

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Nope, striking posts with their wooden swords.

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To like strike a pose like Madonna here, we would score.

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Vogue.

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Vogue.

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Strike pose.

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Wow, that was great.

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Um, so they would um practice striking posts with their wooden swords, right?

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Repeating the same motions again and again until they became instinctive.

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Can I ask you a ridiculous question?

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Sure.

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What kind of wood did they use for the swords?

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That is a ridiculous question, but they actually used maple.

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You're making that up.

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I'm making it up.

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I mean, that's a strong wood, right?

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That's pretty pretty dense.

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Yeah.

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What would you think?

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Oak, maple.

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Definitely not pine.

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Yeah.

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Pine's light.

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I feel like this might be a question for not that Nathan would know.

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But he could at least give it an educated guess.

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A more educated guess, just because he works with wood.

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Yeah.

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Not for a living, but it's a hobby of his, yeah.

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And he makes makes different things.

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Like he made, well, shit, how many?

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I don't remember how many years ago you said he even made it.

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That chessboard that he ended up giving to Xavier.

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Yeah.

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I mean, stuff like that, you know, he just likes making stuff out of wood.

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Yeah.

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So he would have a better guess than you and I would.

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I think so.

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All we're trying to say.

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Yeah.

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So yeah.

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Anyways.

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I should have grabbed another Kleenex.

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Oh, they're over there.

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Yeah, they're just over there.

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Go, go gadget arms.

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Wouldn't that be something?

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I love that show.

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That was a great show.

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I was growing up.

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Pity.

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So later came sparring matches with fellow trainees, carefully supervised by the instructors who corrected mistakes and barked out orders.

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Yep.

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Um, and the diet.

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Um Roman writers actually joked that the gladiators were called barley men because their meals balanced um their their meals were based heavily on barley, beans, and legumes.

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Oh, good old legumes.

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Yeah.

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Like beans.

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The high carbohydrate diet helped them build muscle and maintain a layer a good layer of body fat um that added extra padding that actually serve a purpose.

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It helped protect against superficial cuts and made injuries less immediately fatal.

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And yeah, not as you know, you're getting hit by the blunt side of a sword, even that's gonna pad you better than not.

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So yeah, I mean bruises are gonna happen, but well, clearly.

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I mean, in this type of profession, if you will, you're gonna get fucked up no matter what, but you might not die from it, is what we're saying.

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But medical medical care was also better than one would expect.

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Well, gladiator rep gladiators represented financial investments, so their health mattered.

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One of the most famous physicians of the ancient world, Galen, once worked as a doctor in a gladiator school.

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He later wrote that the experience taught him more about anatomy and trauma than any academic training could have.

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Within this harsh but structured environment, a gladiator gradually became that professional fighter that we know of.

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Okay.

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That we know, you know.

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Flama eventually specialized in a particular class of gladiator known as the Secutor.

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Yes, yes.

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So Roman gladiator combat was not a chaotic free-for-all.

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No, fights were carefully arranged between specific types of fighters, right?

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Each with distinctive armor and weapons.

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So kind of like what I said, I heard.

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Yeah.

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I mean, to a degree at least so far.

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Yeah.

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So, like I said, the secutor was designed to face um one particular opponent.

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Right.

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The ret r I said it earlier.

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You're good.

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Ret Retiarus.

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Retiarus.

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Retiarus.

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I'm so sorry, Italians.

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Italians.

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The pairing created one of the more dramatic matchups in the arena.

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Okay.

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Um, the sector carried the large shield and a short sword now known as a gladius.

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Yeah.

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His helmet was smooth and rounded with only two small eye holes for vision.

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Sure.

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Could you imagine how much that impaired your vision?

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Even with the eye holes for it.

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Man, your peripherals gotta be fucked and everything.

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Like, I think of the again, I go off of everything I know from the movie Gladiator.

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Think of the mask that he wore early on when he was hiding his identity before he revealed himself.

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Yeah.

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That couldn't have been easy to look out of.

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Because it's just, you know, it's got the sides, the tooth pieces, and then just those slits, it's like oh shit.

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Didn't see over there.

00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.159
Hey buddy, what'd you get there?

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He's lapping here for an hour.

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It's like, dude, I've been here forever.

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So the design of the helmet uh prevented the opponent's net from snacking on any protrusions.

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Okay, it totally sounded like you said snacking.

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Snagging.

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So the ret Reti erus, yes, on the other hand, fought lightly armored.

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They carried a net, a trident, and a dagger.

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And their strategy relied on speed and distance.

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So rather than charging directly into combat, um, they circled his opponent looking for an opportunity to throw throw the net and entangle him.

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And then jab jab.

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Yeah.

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With the trident, yeah.

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It created more of like a cat and mouse type of battle.

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Sure.

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Um, the Retiarius, I'm so sorry, uh, would dart and maneuver and the secutor um advanced behind his shield.

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Right.

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If the net landed, the secutor could be dragged off balance and struck with a trident.

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Sure.

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But if the net missed, the lightly armored um Retiarius suddenly faced a heavily armed opponent closing in super fast.

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Super fast.

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And this is one of those times where just the the crowd just loved to watch this.

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Well, yeah, I mean, because it's like you said, it's the whole cat and mouse.

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So, I mean, there's strategy on either side, like, how do I get this guy?

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From you know, brute force, and the other one's like, I gotta dance around you.

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Right.

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Basically.

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Do you remember in the street?

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What's it called?

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Float like a butterfly sting like a now.

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Who said that?

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Mr.

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Ali.

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Famous is he, Ali.

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Yes.

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Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

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Muhammad Ali said that.

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Do you know Muhammad Ali's real name?

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Yeah.

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No.

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Cassius Clay.

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Cassius Clay.

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I think that's an awesome name, too.

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I think it is too.

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But he adopted what is the the Muslim faith, is that's what it is, right?

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Oh, okay.

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And that's why he became Muhammad Ali, which is fine.

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Yeah.

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But I think Cassius Clay is a fucking super great name.

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Awesome boxer name.

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Yeah.

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So I'm just saying.

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No disrespect, Mr.

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Ollie, but I liked your original name.

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So at some point in his early career, Flama walked into the arena for the first time.

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Roman arenas were enormous theaters of spectacle.

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Thousands of spectators filled the stands.

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Yep.

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Trumpets would announce the starting of the games.

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Yep.

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The sand of the arena floor was always freshly raked, ready to absorb sweat and blood.

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For sure.

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Flama would have stepped out in full armor, shield raised, sword at his side, and across the arena would be his opponent holding a coiled net and long trident.

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Could you imagine how warm that would be in that armor?

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I know like they always portray him as like having like a fucking basically like a loincloth and then their armor and stuff or whatever.

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But could you imagine how sweaty you would get in that armor?

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Because I'm just thinking of the the It would be so slick.

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Oh my god.

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I'm just thinking of the locations that they had a lot of these in because of where the Roman Empire was.

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But god damn, that had to be warm.

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Yeah.

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Not good warm.

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But yeah.

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Can I can we take a second for me to get one of those?

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You need a blow your nose?

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Yeah.

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Alright.

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Back from uh my nose adventure.

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I got another one just in case.

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Okay, so it's a left side.

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I don't fucking get it.

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Yeah.

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I hate it.

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It's not right.

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What can you say?

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Because it's left.

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Yeah.

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Let's move on.

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The fight.

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The fight began.

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The glorious fight.

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The Retiarius circled, testing his distance.

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Flama advanced slowly.

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Shield forward.

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The net suddenly flew through the air.

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What the if it struck, the secutor could be pulled sideways and stabbed before he regained balance.

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But a trained gladiator like Flamma would try to deflect the field with his shield.

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Imagine the net missing.

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Now the advantage has shifted.

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The ret Reti You had me until you butchered it.

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Reditarius backed away, trying to recover his weapon.

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And Flamma pressed forward, the distance closing quickly.

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The sword flashed.

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And moments later, the opponent laid wounded in the sand.

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The crowd roared a victory.

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They gave him a real sword for this, right?

00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:41.440
Yeah.

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Not a wooden one anymore.

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Okay, good.

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Oh boy.

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Flama would go on to fight 34 times.

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That's just crazy.

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It's an impressive number for any gladiator.

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Right.

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Many fighters never survived long enough to accumulate such a record.

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Oh no, for sure.

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His victory.

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As I said earlier, number 21.

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So how do you get a draw?

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So a draw meant something specific in combat.

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Okay.

00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:19.039
It indicated that both fighters had performed skillfully, bravely enough that the sponsor of the games decided neither deserved death.

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That's enough.

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Okay.

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So after a long and exoting battle, both men could leave the arena alive.

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Those matches were often grueling.

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Picture Flama Flama deep into one of these contests, which the fight has to be so much longer because neither of one are being killed.

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Right.

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Longer than expected.

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His helmet is trapping this heat and sweat and tiny eye holes.

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He's probably like dripping into his eyeballs.

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Well, I imagine there's sand flying around from the arena and everything.

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And then like the breath coming back into the shell, the metal shell.

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Across the arena, the retiere retiarius remains frustratingly elusive.

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Elusive.

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Yes.

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Oh my gosh.

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He circles prodding with the Triant, retreating whenever Flamet advances.

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Shuck and drive, shuck and drive.

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The crowd begins to murmur.

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Oh my god.

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What are you doing later?

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Spectators want action.

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The fighters are exhausted.

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And eventually the official overseeing the games, the editor.

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The editor?

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Okay.

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Signals the end of the match, a draw.

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Both men survive to fight another day.

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That's crazy.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I I guess I didn't know they did draws for gladiator battles.

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I always thought you're always kind of taught, at least the way I remember it, is fight to the death.

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Right.

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You know?

00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:56.799
So I guess I didn't realize there was actually draws in gladiator battles.

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Yeah.

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That's crazy.

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So Flame's record also included four defeats.

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Yeah.

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Losing a match did not mean death.

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Right.

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Automatically mean death.

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Right.

00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:14.880
Gladiators were so expensive to train, and a skilled fighter was worth preserving.

00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:15.680
Oh, sure.

00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:23.039
So if a gladiator was defeated but had still fought well, they he could request uh mercy.

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Oh.

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The gesture was simple.

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The defeated man raised one finger.

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It was a silent plea for release.

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They called it miso.

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So it's it's basically a uh a medieval like a white flag.

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Not a medieval, but you know, it's an ancient thing for like today in like UFC, you tap out.

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Like if you're yeah, right.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Basically.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Or a white flag, yeah.

00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:49.440
But you're like, you're tapping out.

00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.079
I like that analogy, definitely.

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Pardon me.

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The crowd and the sponsor would have to decide his feat.

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A popular or brave fighter often did receive mercy.

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Oh, Flama obviously did at least four times.

00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:04.079
Sure.

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So these defeats were not the end of his career.

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Nope.

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They were part of the long path that eventually made him one of the um most seasoned veterans.

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Sure.

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So over the years, Flama's reputation probably had grown.

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The fact that he was offered the rudus, which was the wooden sword symbolizing freedom, suggests that he became a crowd favorite.

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Sure.

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Receiving the rudus was one of the greatest honor honors a gladiator could receive.

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Yeah.

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It meant the fighter had earned release from its his contract or slavery.

00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:44.000
His career in the arena was considered complete, and many gladiators dreamed of that moment.

00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:51.359
Flammer reached it once, twice, three times, and then a fourth time.

00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:56.480
And each time, according to the inscription on his tombstone, he refused.

00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:57.440
That's wild.

00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.359
The answer as to why is lost to history.

00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:02.400
Of course.

00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:10.240
But um the possibilities reveal more about the uh strange world of Roman gladiators.

00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:10.559
Sure.

00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.240
Successful gladiators could earn significant prize money.

00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:14.640
Yep.

00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.799
Um, victorious fighters received payments from gifts um from sponsors.

00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:19.599
Oh, sure.

00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:26.720
Um, over time a popular popular gladiator might accumulate far greater wealth than he could have earned anywhere else.

00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:27.759
Right, yeah, for sure.

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.799
So fame was another powerful incentive.

00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:31.359
Yeah.

00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:36.319
And gladiators were kind of considered celebrities in Roman society.

00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.880
They were rock stars or whatever.

00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:39.680
Yeah.

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.160
Whatever you want to call them here, but yeah.

00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:51.759
And is it is it true that like ladies like fine ladies of higher standing would go and bang popular gladiators?

00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:52.720
I didn't read that.

00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:53.920
You never came across that?

00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:57.599
Okay, because I always remember that was like a thing that I remember reading.

00:26:57.759 --> 00:26:59.039
I don't know if it's true.

00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.119
Yeah, I almost find it like really, yeah, but I guess maybe.

00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:03.599
I don't know.

00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:05.680
There were wild times back then.

00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:06.319
Yeah.

00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:12.799
Well, graffiti discovered in ancient cities like Pompeii show fans praising their favorite fighters.

00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:13.839
Oh, sure.

00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:24.000
Um, there were women that did leave like declarations of admiration, um, but I don't know much about like what actually would happen.

00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:31.440
Yeah, but that's that's just like name your band here, like I love you, right, Taylor Swift or whatever.

00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:46.559
You know, it doesn't mean anything beyond that, but um so there was another matter of identity after years inside the gladiator school in the arena fighting might have become the only life that Flamma really knew.

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:48.720
Sure, which I you know I get that.

00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:58.319
The Brotherhood of the Ludus, the Aurora of the Crowd, the adrenal of a combat, all formed like this powerful world that he was in.

00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:58.960
Sure.

00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.480
So freedom meant uncertainty.

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:11.039
So outside the arena, was he a slave with no clear place in Roman society?

00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:16.160
The arena offered danger, but also fulfilled a purpose.

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.440
Um almost kind of a structure for him, too.

00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:26.960
A structure to his life where training the food and you know the meals and everything he got through the Ludus, right?

00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:27.920
Ludus, yes.

00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.000
Ludus, that's the place where he trained.

00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:39.119
So you had that uh curriculum almost, if you will, like, hey, you gotta learn this so you can be a better fighter, right?

00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:41.680
Or just your your everyday routine.

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:46.160
So yeah, I I can see why it would be like I don't want to go out there.

00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:46.559
Yeah.

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.440
Well, it's kind of like uh Brooks from Shawshank.

00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.440
He's institutionalized.

00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:52.160
Yeah.

00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.799
I mean, it's the same kind of concept to a degree.

00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.160
You don't know anything but what you're in.

00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:01.839
And so I could see why he'd want to stay.

00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:09.839
A lot of benefits to staying, a lot of not benefits for staying, but you know, a lot of uncertainty for if you leave.

00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.839
So yeah, I I I totally get it.

00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:12.880
Yeah, yeah.

00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.039
So four times Flama declined the wooden sword.

00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:23.839
He chose to remain a gladiator, but Flama did die eventually at the age of guess.

00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:25.119
Oh dear.

00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:26.720
Age of 47.

00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:33.759
Younger, 27, older, 37, 30, Jesus Christ.

00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:34.799
He was only 30.

00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:35.599
He was only 30.

00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:40.640
He was only 30 and he won 34 or he fought 34 battles, won 21 times.

00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.119
Yeah.

00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.160
Nine times spared, and then four times lost.

00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:45.440
Look at me go.

00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:46.319
Numbers.

00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:47.440
30.

00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.000
Jesus.

00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.559
Well, I guess that's probably like an ancient man back then.

00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:57.759
Yeah, so this is not unusually young, um, but it suggests that he had survived a long career um in this profession.

00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.519
When would you guess he started this profession?

00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.440
Like how old would you guess?

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:12.799
Well, the typical schedule of experienced gladiators, they would fight approximately two to three times a year.

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:14.880
So two to three times a year.

00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.119
So we're looking at 34 battles, so we're looking at 11 years, yeah.

00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.839
Potentially, yeah, if not more.

00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:27.200
So if he died when he was 30, he probably started when he was 16, 17 years old.

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.720
Like started training and then if you had if I had to guess, which is a pure fucking guess.

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:33.279
Yeah.

00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.359
Wow, that's wild.

00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:39.279
So somewhere along the way, someone paid for his tombstone.

00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:39.839
Yeah.

00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.160
Not sure if it was a fellow gladiator, a sponsor, an admirer.

00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:49.920
Or just, you know, someone who respected what he did, yeah.

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:50.720
Kind of thing.

00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:55.599
Um, and they carved his record into this stone so it wouldn't be forgotten.

00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.279
Which is wild, really.

00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.880
Most gladiators have vanished from history without leaving even a name behind.

00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.240
Well, except for Maximus.

00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.839
There's there's not much out there for no, there really isn't.

00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:14.799
Even with Flama, there's not much, but I added in like what could have happened with his training and stuff.

00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.519
It's speculation, it's what happened during that time.

00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:20.160
So he probably went through that, most likely.

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:28.640
Yeah, we know absolutely not a hundred percent, but it's very probable he went through that yeah, that line of training and so on.

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:29.200
Yeah.

00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:29.519
Yeah.

00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:41.519
So a man who stood in the arena again and again started staring down opponents beneath the crowd, and when freedom was finally placed in his hands, he chose he chose the sword instead.

00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:42.000
Yeah.

00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:48.240
The gravestone's exact archaeological setting and where it is today is unknown.

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:49.279
Oh no, really?

00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.119
They don't know where it ended up.

00:31:51.359 --> 00:32:03.359
It was discovered centuries ago and later disappeared, but even without the stone, the inscription still marks as marks him as one of the most remarkable gladiators remembered in the Roman arena.

00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.880
And where did you say they found they found that when they did?

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.079
Did you have a location?

00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:09.440
It was in Sicily.

00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:10.720
Sicily, that's right.

00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:11.279
Okay.

00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.839
Wow, that's that's crazy.

00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:14.640
Yeah, isn't it?

00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:22.319
Like, do you think he like well clearly it doesn't sound like he retired, but because he passed up?

00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:30.559
He died at 30, so not sure if he died in the arena or or what, but or died from injuries outside the arena.

00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.759
Yeah, but it's it's crazy that it'll end up in.

00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:41.599
So do you think, and again, pure speculation and uh your opinion, do you think he ever fought at the Coliseum?

00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:55.920
Or did he fight at the outlier like territories and all the other because they had him everywhere they did back then, so I mean, sorry for my runny nose.

00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.680
Yeah, it's just it's just my left side because we know what's not right.

00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:00.400
Right.

00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:01.279
See?

00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:03.680
I don't know.

00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:12.720
I think in my research, it I think well, they don't they don't know anything about him other than his tombstone, so it's hard to say.

00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.039
It's just pure speculation.

00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:25.039
So because I mean, could you imagine like like I just picture the when they walk in for the first time they're looking around like holy fuck?

00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:25.599
What is this?

00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:30.559
Okay, so with someone with such a huge record, I'm gonna say yes.

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.440
Like he is a he is a popular, yeah, skilled gladiator.

00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.119
Yeah, they're gonna bring him to Rome.

00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:38.880
That's kind of where I was going with that.

00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:39.440
Yeah.

00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.599
Because if I had to purely speculate a guess, I would say he did.

00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:44.000
Yeah.

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:53.039
Because of his record alone, it would make sense that he would have went there, but again, who the fuck knows?

00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:53.680
Don't know.

00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.799
Because, like you said, it was lost to time.

00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:57.599
It was.

00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:59.039
All right.

00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:00.799
Would you like some more idioms?

00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.440
Back-to-back episodes with idioms.

00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.599
Oh my god, are you serious?

00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:06.880
The heck.

00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.280
So hopefully these are not bad.

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:10.320
Yeah, let's hear them.

00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:11.280
All right, let me get it.

00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.599
You can put yours down, I will pick that up.

00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:18.239
Alright.

00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.440
Have you heard of the idiom?

00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:25.519
Right as rain.

00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:26.079
Yes.

00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.079
Good, because you're the one who told it to me.

00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.199
And if you didn't, well then that's fucked.

00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:32.800
Well, that's right as rain.

00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:35.679
All right.

00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:36.719
All right.

00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:42.079
The idiom right as rain means perfectly fine, in good health or in proper order.

00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:46.079
So, for example, after a few days' rest, he was right as rain.

00:34:47.280 --> 00:35:00.880
So, where it most likely came from, which you'll understand why it kind of makes sense, is it likely originated in Britain in the late 1800s and was first recorded in print around 1894.

00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.559
So it has been around for a while, in print even.

00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:11.599
Um, pretty much the wording is kind of a bit of a mystery, though, but they have a few theories as to it.

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:19.119
Um, rain is something that is normal and reliable, especially in Britain, because it gets pretty rainy there.

00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:28.079
So, um, because rainy weather is so common in Britain, rain may have symbolized something natural, predictable, and exactly as it should be.

00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.159
Which, you know, right as rain.

00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:33.840
So if something was right as rain, it meant everything was back to normal.

00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:40.559
Um, there apparently is another similar sayings expressions.

00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.840
I don't I don't think I've ever heard these.

00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.440
Right as a trivet?

00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:46.480
Nope.

00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.320
Right as a ninepence?

00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:49.440
Nope.

00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:51.119
Right as nails.

00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:56.079
That one I might have heard of, but I don't even recall if I have or not.

00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:57.599
What kind of nail?

00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.400
Like a hammering nail or like a fingernail?

00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.960
I'm guessing uh like a like this one?

00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:03.920
This one?

00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.159
Yeah, like right as finger right as nail.

00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:07.920
It could be this one, but it might be this one.

00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:08.320
Yeah.

00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:10.480
That was gold.

00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:11.039
Anyways.

00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:12.719
What was it right as rain?

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:16.079
Stop.

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.400
So these all meant something was correct, stable, or satisfactory.

00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:25.840
Eventually, right as reign stuck compared to the other ones, because other ones are dumb as fuck, if you ask me.

00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:27.199
Right as nine pence.

00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:28.800
Right as trivet.

00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.119
Right is trivet, am I right?

00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.280
Right as ninepence, none the richer.

00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.159
That's a band.

00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:39.840
Anyways.

00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:50.559
Um so of course the meeting today is basically everything is good, everything is where the way it's supposed to be, and so on.

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.039
So I do have one more for you.

00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:54.159
Doki doke.

00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.119
Because one up, governor.

00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:58.320
Chip chip.

00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:00.239
Wait, pip, pip.

00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:00.559
There it is.

00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:01.519
Pip pip cheerio.

00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.840
Let's let's sor sorry, UK.

00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.280
And and Rome.

00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.159
For all my sorry, uh no, I'm not sure.

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:13.519
Sorry, everybody.

00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:14.880
Sorry, everyone.

00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:16.000
Just sorry.

00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:16.960
Okay.

00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.440
The idiom I smell a rat.

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:22.480
Ooh.

00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:31.360
Means you suspect you suspect something dishonest, wrong, or suspicious is going on.

00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:38.000
So apparently, this phrase goes back to at least the 1500s in England.

00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:38.480
Oh.

00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.800
So it's been around a hot minute.

00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:41.920
A couple years, yeah.

00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.800
A couple, two, three million minutes.

00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.079
I don't know how many minutes.

00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:46.960
Like what?

00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:47.519
No.

00:37:47.920 --> 00:38:01.360
So early examples appear in English literature, so it actually has shown up in print and stuff, including a line in the 1599 play by Ben Johnson, where the character says, I smell a rat.

00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.559
That's like thanks for elaborating, but anyways.

00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:06.559
Okay, so why a rat?

00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:13.199
Um, the expression comes from the behavior of animals, especially cats and dogs, that can smell a rat nearby.

00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:21.920
Kind of like when I when I was doing this, instantly thought of Lady and the Tramp, where the uh tramp smells the rat in the baby's room.

00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:22.239
Yeah.

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:22.960
Do you remember that?

00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:23.360
Yeah.

00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:23.840
Okay.

00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.360
Um, I tried not to watch that movie very often because um the rat part scared me.

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.800
And um also uh dogs at the pound.

00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:33.840
Um, no.

00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:34.639
Uh nope.

00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:35.679
But they sing.

00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.239
No, they no.

00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:44.159
There's there's a scene where Vesper was watching it and I had to leave because the dogs at the pound were crying.

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.559
I can't handle that.

00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:47.519
Fair enough.

00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.840
And Vesper's like, uh, doggy.

00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:51.599
Anyways, all right.

00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:55.039
So if they caught the scent, it meant something hidden was lurking.

00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.880
People borrow this idea to describe sensing that something isn't right even before you see proof, basically.

00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:10.320
So, of course, rats were also strongly associated with disease and filth, betrayal, or informers, because rat later became slang for a snitch.

00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:11.440
Ratten it out, yeah.

00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.079
Yeah, you know, you're a rat, man.

00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.559
Yeah, snitches get stitches or whatever.

00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:22.960
Anyways, um, so someone said I smell a rat, I meant they sense trouble, deceit, or betrayal.

00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:23.920
Very good.

00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:33.599
Yeah, so basically, the meaning today, very, very similar to those origins, but something feels suspicious, someone might be lying or hiding something.

00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:40.320
So yeah, if you smell a rat, you're you're not very keen on what they're fucking doing.

00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:41.760
I'm not keen on that.

00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:43.119
I'm not keen on that.

00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.199
I smell a rot.

00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:46.800
How was your beer?

00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:48.639
It was delicious.

00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:49.599
Is it gone?

00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:50.239
Uh no.

00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:50.880
Oh, okay.

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.440
I think I have at least one more glass pour.

00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:55.519
How's your beer?

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:57.519
It's delicious as always.

00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:58.719
It's consistent?

00:39:58.960 --> 00:39:59.840
It's consistent.

00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.519
It's consistently great.

00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:02.960
Mandalo knows what they're doing.

00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:04.400
It's right as rain.

00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:05.519
Thank you.

00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:06.159
Yeah.

00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.960
Because I was gonna say, I smell a rat if you don't use that.

00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:11.599
Welp.

00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:12.559
I suppose.

00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:13.119
Okay.

00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:14.320
All right, buffoons.

00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:15.679
That's it for today's episode.

00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.079
Buckle up because we've got another historical adventure waiting for you next time.

00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.480
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