June 30, 2025

Textbook Labaz: Dyatlov Pass Incident Part 1

Textbook Labaz: Dyatlov Pass Incident Part 1
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The Ural Mountains of Siberia, 1959. Nine experienced Russian hikers vanish, leaving behind a mystery that still haunts us today. Their tent, slashed from the inside. Their bodies, scattered across the snow. Their final moments, frozen in time with no witnesses to tell their tale.

In this first part of our deep dive into the Dyatlov Pass incident, we're joined by special guest Audra as we unravel the background of this chilling unsolved case. These weren't amateur adventurers—they were elite students and seasoned mountaineers attempting to earn their Grade Three hiking certification, the highest level of achievement in Soviet Russia's hiking hierarchy.

We meticulously profile each member of the doomed expedition, from 23-year-old leader Igor Dyatlov, who insisted everyone wash their feet nightly, to Zanata Kolmogorova who had survived a viper bite on a previous trek, to Yuri Doroshenko who once fought a bear with a geologist's hammer. Their impressive qualifications make their subsequent actions all the more baffling.

What compelled these highly trained hikers to abandon their shelter in sub-zero temperatures without proper clothing? Why did they set up camp on an exposed mountain slope when forest shelter was within reach? And why was 38-year-old Semyon Zolotaryov added to the group at the last minute—a detail that spawns multiple contradicting stories?

From their joyful departure—singing songs and creating a humorous newsletter—to the moment two hikers stepped outside to relieve themselves and were never seen alive again, we follow their journey through the stark Russian wilderness. With temperatures plunging to -30°C and winds reaching hurricane force, the stage was set for a tragedy that defies simple explanation.

Listen now to part one of this haunting expedition into one of history's most enduring mysteries, and prepare yourself for the shocking discoveries and bizarre theories coming in part two.

Dyatlov Pass Incident: The Only Mystery Guide You'll Ever Need by VULDAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck9HOxnsmic

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00:00 - Introducing the Dyatlov Pass Incident

16:09 - Meeting Our First Guest: Audra

33:27 - The Background: Nine Experienced Russian Hikers

01:05:44 - Meet the Hikers: Individual Profiles

01:18:54 - The Mysterious Addition: 38-Year-Old Zolotaryov

01:27:28 - Expedition Terrain and Weather Conditions

01:33:14 - The Timeline: Journey to the Mountain

01:45:36 - Setting Up the Final Camp

01:52:03 - Decision to Continue as Two-Part Episode

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Oh, hey, there oh hey, there.

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How are you?

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I'm good.

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How are you?

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I'm very warm.

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Yes, we're very warm and we're very buffoons, because we're the history buffoons.

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And I am Kate, and I am.

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Kate and I am Bradley.

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And we have a very big story.

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Long story from what I'm told.

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Couple of episodes long, potentially, potentially a couple episodes long.

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Very long and in depth.

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Yes, I spent a little over a month Working on this one, this, yeah, reading books and listening to podcasts and just doing.

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You're doing your due diligence yes, because it's very, very, very in depth why does it have to be so warm?

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so we have um a special guest on our podcast today, our first time ever having one so we have um a special guest on our podcast today our first time ever having one, so we're super excited, I know so don't kill us, don't kill us what?

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this is audra, that introduction.

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You're welcome.

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This is this is audra.

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She is a co-worker of mine.

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We've've worked together for almost three years.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, three years yeah.

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Welcome, audra, thank you.

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Thank you for doing this, thank you for having me.

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This is an episode that you're very excited about.

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I'm so excited.

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Yes, yeah, so I was not going to do this topic until she was like but I love it, I'm like well, I kind of do too.

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I really like this story as well.

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So yeah, let's fucking do this shit.

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Well, and we've been wanting to have a guest person on our podcast and we haven't really been able to, I guess, and this was a perfect excuse to have one since uh, you know why not so yeah, um, so we are going.

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So actually, bradley knows what we're going to talk about today I do a little bit.

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I got the the cliff notes, if you will so if you recall, on our conversation episode our latest conversation episode, we mentioned that we were going to potentially have a guest on our podcast soon and we were going to talk about the Dyatlov Pass incident, which is today.

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That is happening right now.

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So I sent Bradley a very bare-bones podcast episode.

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I'm not going to shout out the episode because it wasn't all that great on purpose.

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It was fine.

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I had some issues with it.

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It did raise a question for me that I will ask when the time is right.

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So he knows the very bare bones of the Dyatlov Pass incident in preparation for today, just so he's not completely like out of the loop well, we figured, since we have a guest on our episode, that we're going to uh make it.

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So I'm not just like you're not, I don't want you to teach me, and then like, have audra just sit there, kind of thing.

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So we want her I wouldn't allow that well, no, that's not my point, but we want her insight obviously.

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But I don't want to just be in the dark with it, so I can actually fucking interact and be like, oh okay so you know so the diet love pass incident um takes place in the ural mountains in russia 1959.

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Yes, and look at me, go february and I learned some shit for that reason oh we created white Russians.

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Because you know Russian.

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And we're white.

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Why do you have to bring race into it, fucking shit, you can't just ask people why they're white you can't just ask people Do you know what movie that's from Bradley?

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What From?

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Mean Girls.

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No, you know, I don't know that movie very well, oh my god, karen, you can't just ask people why they're white.

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It's one of the best quotable movies out there, absolutely.

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I have seen it probably once or twice in my life holy vodka it is two ounces.

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Really.

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That doesn't taste strong at all.

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Did you put vodka in mine?

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Do you want mine?

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I mean, I'll drink yours if you're not going to drink it.

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I'm not a liquor person.

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I happen to be.

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This is very strong Two ounces plus one ounce of heavy cream, and one ounce-ish Kind of a one ounce of heavy cream and lots of ice and I have a cream one ounce of heavy cream and bailey's on top and what I say you said heavy cream twice, she literally just started drinking.

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That that's the funny part.

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You think she'd have five of these in her I'm still thinking of creamy dairy treats, and that's a no for me.

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Creamy dairy treats?

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Yeah, no what the fuck is ice cream, creamy dairy treats?

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It's a creamy dairy treat, not one that you shake.

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That's the part that's got me Okay, but there are shakes.

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Do you not want to?

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drink that?

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I think I want more Baileys than half.

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Do you not want to drink that?

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I think I want more.

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Baileys than half.

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Do you not want to drink that?

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No, I'm going to drink it.

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All right, I mean, I would gladly take it.

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It's okay, I have a Modelo as a backup.

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But my point is, I would gladly take it.

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I know, but you're not going to take it.

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But I am going to drink my Baileys also.

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I'm going to eat it.

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How my bad is.

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Also, how much have you had?

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to drink today.

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You said you just started that.

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Holy shit.

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I think she's been taking swigs off the bottle okay playing the trumpet.

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Exactly, there we go oh yeah, tell them about your trumpet oh, that's a segway.

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Yeah, oh, that's a segue.

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You just put your lips on it and you blow.

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Wow, it's got three buttons okay.

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So I was telling bradley that I wanted a white russian.

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He goes oh, I've got vodka at home.

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Yes, in the shape of a trumpet and one girl could say no to that.

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Well, right.

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I didn't have to buy it, so it's a bottle of.

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I don't even know what brand.

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It says jazz on it.

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I did catch that.

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Yeah, jazz I saw that.

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But I'm not sure what that means to be honest.

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It's a bottle of booze I got years ago from my buddy, who we used to trade bottles of booze for our birthday and Christmas, and that's what he got me one year and I had never opened it.

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Surprisingly, there's not a lot in there.

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No, it's a lot smaller bottle than I thought.

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I feel like I got cheated that year.

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I mean, it kind of looks like an actual trumpet size.

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No, it's pretty large Because of the shape of the trumpet.

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And no, it's pretty large because because of the shape of the trumpet, how it's so narrow at the top and then it bells out it.

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There's actually not a lot of liquid in there fun note.

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Uh, my brother who wrote our intro song and well, outro song used to play the trumpet, so look at us fucking bringing it around sure you are, yeah, um so and I do this weekly with her I feel, like this would be so bad for my adhd it can be.

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Yeah, I have issues at times focusing on what the fuck she's talking about, and I also make a lot of jokes my uh, my chair squeaky maybe stop doing that well I wasn't trying to but I was like, oh, it's audrey's chair.

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I was like oh and I also make a lot of jokes my chair's squeaky.

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Maybe stop doing that.

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Well, I wasn't trying to, but I was like, oh, it's Audra's chair.

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I was like, oh, no, that's me, no, that's you.

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Yeah, so that'll be fun.

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No, I took my meds today, so I'm very even keeled.

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Oh, shucks Think what.

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She's not like darn it.

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Oh boy, oh boy.

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Okay, diet love pass, or diet love pass, yeah sure which what is the?

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you don't know what the proper pronunciation is.

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I don't, but I did a really good job on the names, of looking at their pronunciation in the podcast you had me listen to, to just get the the gist of it.

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They said diet love or whatever.

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Right, yeah I've been pronoun, been pronouncing it Dyatlov, but I've also heard it as Dyatlov.

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Okay.

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Or yeah, Dyatlov, Something like that.

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I say Dyatlov yeah.

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Is that what you know it as?

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Yeah, okay.

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So, oh, so close.

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That was supposed to be mine.

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Stole it.

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Okay, and I was watching her, so it sounded like it came out of her mouth.

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That's fantastic it's like a really good burp throw, or ventriloquist so anyways, this is actually kind of, this is a serious topic so, audra, I'd like to let you know that most of our stories are fucking depressing.

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Yeah, it usually deals with people dying.

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Yeah, like these people.

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That's the kind of history I'm interested in.

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Yeah, Well then this is right up, your fucking alley, absolutely.

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Your fucking episodes, absolutely.

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Okay so is right up your alley.

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That's an idiom.

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I would say it is yeah, yeah, okay, so, yes.

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So the diet love pass incident is on the more serious side.

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It's been covered by books and documentaries, podcasts and even movies have turned like.

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People have like, turned this into like actual is there a movie?

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Yep.

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Really Liberties but yes, most movies are.

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That's why they say based on a true story, not like.

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This is what fucking happened.

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Exactly, there's a video game, oh I didn't know that which video game?

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Peanut Gallery.

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Our Peanut Gallery is samantha, by the way hi, samantha, I told you about this the other day.

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Um tales beyond the tomb.

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It's called, uh like white out white.

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Was I there for that conversation?

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it was over text, so I would assume so.

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so no, that doesn't matter for her, that's totally fair.

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But Tales Beyond the Tomb.

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I think it's called White Survival.

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They have four episodes of Tales Beyond the Tomb.

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Yes, I do remember that, yeah.

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She's saying that they're all based off of different true crime stories with serial killers.

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Oh nice, Really yeah.

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Wait, which serial killers.

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Feature episode.

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Bring me back for all the serial killers.

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But their fourth episode is white survival.

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It's based off dialogue facts.

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Okay, interesting.

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Very odd.

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Yeah, I did not know that and I'm going to play it, yeah.

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Fair enough.

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So I would say 98% of my information has come from the website dietlovepasscom, and it is funded and created by the Diet Love Foundation.

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Right.

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Okay, so this is all very up-to-date information, facts, um, but there are a couple things that are a little confusing, and I will kind of point that out as we get to them, because there's a couple things that are like contradictory and what they say.

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Okay, um, but um, essentially this, this uh story is about a group of nine very, very experienced hikers.

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Isn't it technically a story about 10?

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first, A story about 10.

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Very very.

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I mean, I'm not wrong, you're not?

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Very, very experienced hikers Right.

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They hike as a hobby and they hike in very.

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Yes, Bradley.

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He raised his hand for those who are not watching the video how are they this experience at how young most of them are?

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this was 59 russia so like you weren't a dummy, just like walking around.

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I get that but and I I tried to like displace myself from when I was 23 because that seemed to be the.

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It was what 20 to 23, and there was a 38 year old was the oldest one but, most of them were in that early 20s range like, and they were all like fuck beyond fucking smart, like, right.

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So smart, crazy experience, crazy knowledge base of things, sure, but that, just that just struck me as like holy fuck.

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They were only like 20 to 23 most of them again and I'm like I I understand it was a different time, for when I grew up.

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Now you know, but holy shit that's before television, right?

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well, yeah, because you actually you actually got out and did shit right, you would like go on a category three.

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Yeah, random hike in winter in february in russia, right?

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for fun, for fun for experience for bragging rights yeah no, that that is.

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Uh, I just thought that was fucking wild learning their age, because again, I don't know, before this was all brought up for this, I never fucking heard of this fun fact so most of them were smokers too, and they quit smoking to do this hike oh shit, really which

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would piss me off beyond fucking belief, like but okay, so like I want to get into the meat of this, okay, but just to like, just to like clarify.

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There was one person who had cigarettes on their body, oh, suggesting perhaps he didn't actually take that oath of not smoking.

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Anyway, so these 10 hikers, incredibly experienced, and this group was arranged by 23-year-old Igor Dyatlov.

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So is that why they named it after.

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Yes, Because he's the one who organized this.

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He was the organizer.

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Yes.

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So here's my question that I came up with, that you came up with, from listening to that one earlier today.

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What was it called before that?

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mountain.

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Well see, there wasn't a pass, a pass that was named after him, unless there was an indigenous tribe name, which we'll get into that tribe but, otherwise the mountain is known as 1079 what does that have anything to do with?

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They just named it 1079.

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That's the coordinates, I believe is the background of it.

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I'd say that's a pretty lackluster fucking name.

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I think that's the coordinates because I was just curious.

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Obviously, igor Dyatlov.

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What was it called before?

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yeah, because clearly before 59 it was called something else, so yeah, so they wanted to hike um in the northern part of the ural mountains, which it's a mountain range that is technically in like the siberian portion of russia.

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What's that called ural mountains?

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No siberia there.

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It is because you said siberian siberian tomato, tomato I mean siberian you put the wrong emphasis in the wrong syllable perfect okay, oh, I don't know.

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I just said fucking.

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View from the top people wrong syllable Perfect, okay, name that movie.

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Oh, I don't know.

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I just said it Fucking View.

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From.

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The Top people.

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What's View From the Top?

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Mike Myers.

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He says that in View From the Top.

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Mike Myers, Gwyneth Paltrow.

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I like how she says Mike Myers and like oh duh, austin Powers, yeah right, I know who he is.

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Oh okay, powers.

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Yeah right, I'm not, I know who he is, but just because you don't know who mike myers is, so my brain goes to austin fucking powers, not from all you're right from the top yeah, oh yeah, you from the top got it seriously okay, so to recap are we done talking about mike myers?

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yes, okay, okay.

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So the group of 9 slash 10 never returned from their campsite.

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Okay, oh, you're not tricking anybody, she's absolutely hitting her vape on.

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I'm trying not to do noise.

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No, that's okay, you can hit your vape, it's fine.

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Yeah, vape it up.

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Yep.

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So upon further investigation of these, this abandoned campsite and their campsite in disarray, it was discovered that the hikers had fled their campsite in the middle of the night, correct?

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Leaving behind all of their warm clothing and equipment, right?

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Okay, so several of the hikers, all of the hikers.

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I don't know why it says several, all of the hikers.

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I don't know why it says several, all of the hikers.

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I don't know, you wrote it Were found dead.

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Right.

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With severe injuries and others with no visible injuries at all.

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Right.

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So the cause of their deaths remain a mystery to this day, and that is why it is so popular in today's world Because we have technology now.

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We can try to understand now why something might have happened, and we still have no idea.

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I think people just like to go to the mysterious, though, and it's like it's unexplainable because no one else was there and then they just found these nine people dead.

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So because of that they're like what could have happened?

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And I know we're going to get into theories theories later, so we won't talk about that now.

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But, um, I think that's just what fascinates people and since that's why especially all white women like true crime shit, so so I'm not wrong.

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I feel attacked so in january 1955 a group was formed by igor Dyatlov and they were of nine other young hikers from the Ural Polytechnic Institute or the UPI.

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Oh yeah, upi, I know that Do you.

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Not at all.

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They set out to earn their grade three hiking certificate.

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Set out to earn their grade three hiking certificate.

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Okay, at this time in russia that is the highest grade of hiking that they could accomplish so I'm guessing they never got that certificate no well, I mean they had to complete a rigorous multi-day trek over 300 kilometers, which is about 186 miles holy shit.

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Harsh terrain, midwinter, using only what they could carry well, right, yeah, that's wild 186 miles a third of those miles had to be in challenging terrain I mean it's siberia or siberia, whichever one you want to say, but holy fuck, isn't it all challenging?

00:18:45.089 --> 00:18:45.229
I would think so.

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I mean from's siberia or siberia, whichever one you want to say, but holy fuck, isn't it all challenging, I would think so.

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I mean from our point of view absolutely, especially in february holy fuck so the duration of the trip was to be about 16 days, with no fewer than eight of those days spent in uninhabited regions okay and at least six nights spent in a tent, so like there were like checkpoints that they had to accomplish in order to get this certification I guess that makes sense though so with a grade three certification, it would allow them to teach others their craft as masters of sport masters of sport and it was a distinction that igor and his group badly wanted.

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And because of this certificate, there's this desire for this certificate they had, they all brought cameras, they all brought diaries right to document didn't they have?

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did I hear right?

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They had a joint diary that they all?

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Yes yeah wrote in or whatever.

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Yes, yes, so the route was designed to go through the Ural Mountains in northern Sverdlovsk.

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Sverdlovsk.

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Say it more Russian Nope Sverdlovsk Oblast.

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There's a lot of Russian in here.

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Why is that?

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Because they're russian.

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Jesus christ, when I have had too much to drink, which you will not see today, she's barely had anything to drink when I've had too much to drink, natasha comes out.

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Oh dear natasha, russian, okay.

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Romanoff just saying otherwise known as Black Widow this is not a Marvel show could be.

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Sign us up, disney the Ural Mountains in northern Verlas Oblast, was aiming to reach Otorten Mountain.

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Otorten Mountain, can you say it one more fucking time?

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Oh, torton jesus christ oh, torton mountain translates to mountain of the dead, don't?

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go there, oh, as if it had to be any worse, like, yeah, it's fucking february, go there in russia.

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I wouldn't have went there anyways.

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Well, right, because it's february, and then it says don't go there.

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I mean, I wouldn't have went there anyways.

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Well, right, because it's february.

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And then it says don't go there, yeah so it was translated from the mansi language and mansi are the local tribes, indigenous people yes, okay.

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So lots of big ominous foreshadowing energy, right I mean.

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But these hikers, they, they fucking knew what they were doing.

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Well, they, were accomplished like you said.

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So yes, they were going for third grade three grade three thank you so obviously they've had grade one and two, yes, so I mean I can't imagine.

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I'm sure this is harder, but and they had to work their way up to grade one and then work their way up to achieve grade two.

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Yeah, exactly and then now they've been working their way up to grade three, so so they're very, very accomplished.

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So yeah, it's not like they haven't, it's not like they.

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Ah, fuck one and two, let's go to three boys Plus they're like young 20-somethings that are fucking ambitious and shit In their prime and shit all that.

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Yeah, exactly, ambitious is probably a very good term because let's go do this, vodka, vodka.

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V term because let's go do this, where I mean vodka vodka, vodka, vodka.

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Okay, so these weren't just like some clueless tours.

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They were really seasoned and I I can't like express that enough, because what happens to them?

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They should have survived, honestly.

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But the actions that they had.

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It makes no sense for how experienced they were.

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Okay, so the hikers had permission to go on this mountain.

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So the Dyatlov Expedition was part of a university-sanctioned sport tourism program, so it wasn't just a group of friends who wanted to get together.

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Okay, they had to submit their route plan to the to the ural polytechnic institute hiking committee okay and that included their duration, approximately 16 days.

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Their destination was, which is, or torton mountain, the emergency schedule and return date, which was February 12th.

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And they left on the 1st.

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No, they left sooner than that.

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So in January.

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They died on February 1st, which we'll get to.

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But yes, so they left at the end of January.

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Okay, I just always heard February, yeah, okay, yeah.

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They also had to list the participants and their qualifications.

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Right, they also had to list the participants and their qualifications.

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And then they had the route map and then alternative routes, just in case they had to like Pivot.

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Yeah, pivot, exactly Okay.

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So the trip was supposed to be registered under the Sverdlovsk Committee of Physical.

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What?

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How do you say that?

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Sverdlovsk.

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I mean, I believe you.

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I don't know any of these words.

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Spell it.

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Yeah, right, oh, we'll be here forever.

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She's got to spell everything I know.

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So it is the Serdlovs Committee of Physical Culture and Sports.

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Okay.

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Which is a branch of the Soviet Ministry of Sport.

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Okay, okay, so for a grade three certification, they needed this approval and had to prove the difficulty level with all the data and all the evidence of their pictures and their diaries.

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And also to actually get the category three achievement.

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They were not allowed to bring radios.

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Like radios were hard.

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No.

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Okay, so that was a stipulation for getting that certification.

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Hard no on outside communication.

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Huh, I mean, I guess it makes sense, because if you're going to be accomplished, you need to do it on your own kind of thing you need to fucking do it yourself.

00:24:38.900 --> 00:24:41.169
So you can't have like a lifeline essentially.

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That's really fucking unfortunate for these people because holy shit yeah.

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So caveat, lifeline.

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Essentially, that's really fucking unfortunate for these people because holy shit, yeah.

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So caveat, oh no, there is evidence, yes, that the final approval from the severed lost regional committee was either never submitted.

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Wait, what aka?

00:25:00.567 --> 00:25:14.549
They never submitted the application to be on this mountain or it was not processed in time, so it was possibly due to paperwork errors delays.

00:25:15.692 --> 00:25:16.294
Cold war.

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We were in the middle of a cold fucking war.

00:25:20.941 --> 00:25:40.795
I could be, but the Soviet authorities were kind of notorious for slow processing times, misplacing documents, and some researchers argue that the Dyatlov may have chosen the start of the trick while waiting for the final approval, confident that it would go through.

00:25:41.884 --> 00:25:43.819
And that was not uncommon at the time.

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Technically, they should have never been on this technically they weren't yet approved correct, so to be on it technically shouldn't have been on it.

00:25:53.365 --> 00:26:00.644
Yeah, well, if you want to be technical, I mean okay, that's why I'm here let's talk about the hikers there's 10 of them.

00:26:00.784 --> 00:26:01.704
Let's talk about the hikers.

00:26:01.704 --> 00:26:05.008
To start, yes, we're going to start first with Igor Dyatlov.

00:26:05.008 --> 00:26:06.368
He is 23.

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He is the leader.

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Yes, he is a fifth-year radio engineering student.

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A la smart.

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Okay, he's organized.

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Five years.

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Most people do it in four Okay.

00:26:19.884 --> 00:26:20.727
It was the 50s.

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It was a new program.

00:26:23.263 --> 00:26:27.779
I know he had organized multiple long distance hikes.

00:26:27.779 --> 00:26:29.805
He was very reliable.

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He was respected.

00:26:31.328 --> 00:26:32.791
He was very well liked.

00:26:32.791 --> 00:26:35.759
He carried usually on his other hikes.

00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:41.625
This a handmade um shortwave radio couldn't bring it on this one which he did not bring on.

00:26:41.645 --> 00:26:58.308
This one so, and he had a camera why would he I, I guess I'm trying to like rationalize in my brain why would someone going for like radio be such an avid hiker and want to do this?

00:26:58.308 --> 00:27:02.545
I don't, I guess it just doesn't compute it's a.

00:27:02.605 --> 00:27:03.247
It's a.

00:27:03.247 --> 00:27:11.951
I mean, I get that, but I mean, why do people collect those squishmallows?

00:27:12.953 --> 00:27:13.714
It's a hobby.

00:27:13.714 --> 00:27:15.605
They're soft, and cuddly and you can snuggle.

00:27:16.990 --> 00:27:18.424
That's why I know they're nice, aren't they?

00:27:18.424 --> 00:27:21.164
I've got a bee.

00:27:22.300 --> 00:27:22.864
My son has.

00:27:23.460 --> 00:27:29.191
You're not a person who collects squishmallowss going to school for like bricklaying?

00:27:29.191 --> 00:27:31.335
Probably Probably not.

00:27:31.335 --> 00:27:33.567
So I get the question.

00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:41.713
That's my only thing is like it just I mean I'm not saying they can't be something someone does for both of them.

00:27:41.713 --> 00:27:54.388
It just seems weird because like he's going for radio and all this stuff and it just as opposed to like something in nature or like you know archaeology, or even take that fucking, for example, but it's just like I don't know.

00:27:54.429 --> 00:28:05.449
It just seems weird that they, the he, would be um, I don't know, I don't want to say a nerd, because he's doing all this technical stuff with radios, but then be very nature.

00:28:06.641 --> 00:28:07.061
And again.

00:28:07.162 --> 00:28:16.049
I'm probably thinking of today's brain instead of back in 59 and whatever, and technology was so up and coming.

00:28:16.049 --> 00:28:21.721
Well, yeah, just think of what you had back in 59 and who knows what they even had in Russia, I mean I can't tell, can you?

00:28:21.740 --> 00:28:22.982
tell what happened in 59?

00:28:22.982 --> 00:28:22.982
.

00:28:23.042 --> 00:28:24.445
I don't know, I probably could.

00:28:24.445 --> 00:28:25.007
I was there.

00:28:25.007 --> 00:28:25.587
Yeah, he was there.

00:28:27.752 --> 00:28:28.133
Fucking.

00:28:28.173 --> 00:28:28.433
Kate.

00:28:31.220 --> 00:28:35.711
So I don't remember what I was going to say, so I'm just going to continue on.

00:28:35.770 --> 00:28:38.980
That tracks I just want to let you know that's a common occurrence.

00:28:39.059 --> 00:28:49.441
We were talking about him being a radio tinkerer him being a radio tinkerer?

00:28:49.461 --> 00:29:00.263
yeah, so I think plenty of people who have the left side of the brain are also very right-sided, and I think nature and being out in nature and, you know, being one with nature is very right-sided.

00:29:00.324 --> 00:29:14.886
I mean, we kind of do that with COVID right, like everybody got into fucking bird watching and like I didn't, I had to work Same, but you know everyone's like fuck, I'm sick of being inside, it's Russia.

00:29:16.443 --> 00:29:17.686
I would have loved to stay inside.

00:29:17.686 --> 00:29:18.548
I had to work.

00:29:19.171 --> 00:29:25.945
Okay, so one of Igor's interesting protocols for his hiking trips.

00:29:25.945 --> 00:29:38.156
An old hiking buddy of Igor's said quote we had to wash our feet every night, even though sometimes we didn't have a heater and maybe no hot water in winter.

00:29:38.156 --> 00:29:43.332
You have to be quite strong-willed man to make others do it because some people didn't want to.

00:29:43.332 --> 00:29:49.707
It was quite unusual because no other hikers did anything like this, only Dyatlov End quote.

00:29:50.019 --> 00:29:51.567
So he just liked to wash his feet a lot.

00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.605
He made everybody wash their feet.

00:29:54.027 --> 00:29:54.950
Did he have a foot fetish?

00:29:54.950 --> 00:29:57.911
We're not going to go there.

00:29:58.140 --> 00:30:01.584
We're not going to go there, but that.

00:30:01.624 --> 00:30:02.346
Siri number nine.

00:30:03.579 --> 00:30:04.585
But no.

00:30:10.201 --> 00:30:41.883
This was all a plot to get them out of their socks, exactly, see, she catches on quick, she knows but this could be part of a theory do you think he was gonna start an only fans, jesus christ okay, next we're going to talk about zanata colmo colmo momogorova I want you to do that one more time colmo gorova you gotta say the first name too zanata colmo gorova colmo gorova yes look at me she was an engineering student.

00:30:42.022 --> 00:30:43.525
She was 22 22.

00:30:43.545 --> 00:30:43.765
All right.

00:30:44.226 --> 00:30:51.734
Okay, she has completed many additional hikes, difficult hikes, including some with Igor.

00:30:52.115 --> 00:30:52.455
Okay.

00:30:52.496 --> 00:30:56.349
Okay, she was once bitten by a viper snake.

00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.085
I was going to say twice shy, but all right, what Nothing?

00:30:59.085 --> 00:31:00.928
Do you get the reference?

00:31:00.928 --> 00:31:02.049
Of course, Okay, good.

00:31:02.049 --> 00:31:04.394
What you said once, bitten, I was going to say twice, shy.

00:31:05.619 --> 00:31:06.161
I don't know that one.

00:31:06.161 --> 00:31:12.407
It's classic rock and she lives under a classic rock True true, true, I do live under a rock, that's classic.

00:31:13.241 --> 00:31:14.826
Hey, I see what we all did there.

00:31:14.826 --> 00:31:17.031
Okay so Anyways, sorry.

00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:18.746
Zaneta was cheerful.

00:31:18.746 --> 00:31:28.403
She was warm, brave, very well liked and also the only woman in the group who would trek with every single other one of the group.

00:31:28.604 --> 00:31:35.260
Okay okay, so she's been accomplished with everybody yes, and apparently yeah.

00:31:36.501 --> 00:31:40.246
Um, many of our other hiking companions had like secret crushes on her.

00:31:40.246 --> 00:31:52.426
Oh shit was she, it wasn't these were very respectable students and friends and they never did anything out of line.

00:31:52.968 --> 00:31:53.749
They were all very.

00:31:53.869 --> 00:31:57.461
They all respected each other very, very well even if a crush was there.

00:31:57.461 --> 00:32:02.509
It was the 50s in russia yeah I'm just saying but she also carried a diary.

00:32:03.390 --> 00:32:04.632
I mean, it sounds like everybody did.

00:32:05.513 --> 00:32:06.174
Almost yes.

00:32:06.174 --> 00:32:11.643
So then we have Ludmilla Dubonina.

00:32:11.643 --> 00:32:12.444
She was 20.

00:32:12.444 --> 00:32:13.666
She was the youngest.

00:32:13.728 --> 00:32:14.147
That's right.

00:32:14.147 --> 00:32:16.313
That's why that one resonated.

00:32:18.339 --> 00:32:18.861
She was very strong-willed.

00:32:18.861 --> 00:32:21.126
She was a former Trek photographer.

00:32:21.588 --> 00:32:21.869
A what?

00:32:22.391 --> 00:32:22.731
Trek.

00:32:23.862 --> 00:32:24.384
Star Trek.

00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.068
Same spelling Trekkie.

00:32:29.490 --> 00:32:30.772
From way back, way back.

00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.406
I mean before it was even a thing.

00:32:32.406 --> 00:32:34.527
Right, she's like I'm the OG Trekkie.

00:32:36.101 --> 00:32:38.950
She was a student in engineering and economics.

00:32:39.130 --> 00:32:39.391
Okay.

00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:42.339
She was young but incredibly determined.

00:32:42.339 --> 00:32:50.804
On a prior expedition she was shot by an accidental misfire that's right from a hiking companion.

00:32:50.804 --> 00:32:52.307
Yeah, in the leg.

00:32:52.307 --> 00:33:14.726
Some sources say that she hiked the rest of her hike and some sources say she was carried down for the rest of the hike I'd like to believe that she hiked it yeah, for sure, absolutely she's like fuck this shit, I'm going at one dirt on it exactly that's what my dad used to always tell me so fuck yeah um.

00:33:14.726 --> 00:33:17.251
She was a very serious woman um.

00:33:17.291 --> 00:33:27.614
She was outspoken, highly principled and a communist well, I mean, they were in russia, I know, but she was like the communist of the group.

00:33:27.779 --> 00:33:33.093
Like they said that she like came out of the womb as a communist, like that's how communist she was.

00:33:33.922 --> 00:33:35.006
But can you blame her she?

00:33:35.205 --> 00:33:47.357
she carried the camera, but she was also um one of the one of the group members who most often wrote in her diary okay, and I don't know if I'm jumping the gun here.

00:33:47.417 --> 00:33:50.042
They did find some of the diaries correct.

00:33:50.143 --> 00:33:50.904
Yes, they did okay.

00:33:50.904 --> 00:33:53.910
Next we have yuri doroshenko.

00:33:53.910 --> 00:33:55.252
He was 21.

00:33:55.252 --> 00:33:58.442
Yes, he was another radio engineering student.

00:33:58.442 --> 00:34:01.067
He was kind of a bigger guy.

00:34:01.067 --> 00:34:02.189
He was strong.

00:34:02.189 --> 00:34:06.015
He once fought a bear with a geologist's hammer.

00:34:06.904 --> 00:34:08.994
The most fucking Russia thing you're going to hear.

00:34:09.014 --> 00:34:09.539
I think so.

00:34:09.539 --> 00:34:10.302
No, kidding.

00:34:10.623 --> 00:34:10.985
I mean.

00:34:11.306 --> 00:34:11.849
Seriously.

00:34:12.619 --> 00:34:13.181
How's that go?

00:34:13.181 --> 00:34:17.420
Seriously, she made a lisp happen all of a sudden.

00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:19.244
Sometimes a lisp happens.

00:34:19.324 --> 00:34:24.545
It did that so let's stop that now.

00:34:24.585 --> 00:34:28.876
Thank you for that'm sorry, stop that right now.

00:34:28.876 --> 00:34:29.297
What?

00:34:29.297 --> 00:34:30.199
What kind of bear was it?

00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.367
Was that not a part of your research?

00:34:34.427 --> 00:34:38.072
for fuck's sake I.

00:34:38.592 --> 00:34:43.246
I have to get her to say that every episode, because I always ask a question that's not a part of her research.

00:34:44.329 --> 00:34:47.788
A fucking bear man Well now I'm curious Fucking Google, that shit.

00:34:47.788 --> 00:34:49.590
What kind of bear was it, sam?

00:34:49.590 --> 00:34:50.112
What kind?

00:34:50.273 --> 00:34:50.313
of.

00:34:53.226 --> 00:34:55.983
What kind of bear did which Yuri?

00:34:55.983 --> 00:34:57.742
Are we talking about Yuri?

00:34:57.762 --> 00:34:59.088
Doroshenko 21.

00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:00.684
Is there two Yuris?

00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.108
It's a popular name in Dyatlov.

00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:08.121
In Russia.

00:35:08.121 --> 00:35:08.862
In Russia, how many Yuris there's?

00:35:08.882 --> 00:35:10.085
it's a popular name in russia, love in russia, in russia.

00:35:10.105 --> 00:35:11.027
Okay, so just how many yuris?

00:35:11.027 --> 00:35:12.168
There's three, there's three holy fuck.

00:35:12.168 --> 00:35:21.923
Let me just just preface this by saying sam, in the background, here she is cooking us all dinner tonight and she's she's hanging on as like a good support group member here.

00:35:22.083 --> 00:35:25.512
Fuck, yeah, okay sam, would you be opposed to getting me another beer?

00:35:25.512 --> 00:35:36.449
Probably, just grab two if you are so kind to do it, you don't have to Just saying Okay.

00:35:39.461 --> 00:35:40.626
While she looks that up.

00:35:40.626 --> 00:35:45.331
Yuri Doroshenko was physically fearless.

00:35:45.331 --> 00:35:48.382
He was impulsive emotionally driven 21 year old.

00:35:48.382 --> 00:35:55.643
Yes, okay and he was previously in a relationship with zanada that's the one that everyone had crushes on.

00:35:55.643 --> 00:35:58.275
Yes, okay um, but they remain good friends.

00:35:58.275 --> 00:36:16.521
So they're no longer together, but they remained good friends it was an amicable split yeah, like it really seems like this is just a really great group of young people okay, so zaneta and diatlov were actually dating during this time we do find that out.

00:36:17.242 --> 00:36:19.144
Sorry in her diary no jumping the gun.

00:36:19.144 --> 00:36:20.025
No, you're fine.

00:36:20.586 --> 00:36:28.496
No, um, you're right die out love and and um uh zanada, what was her last name?

00:36:32.007 --> 00:36:43.041
my apologies, because I wanted her to try to say the name again zanada well done um yes, they were currently dating, okay, okay I don't know if they talked about that.

00:36:43.061 --> 00:36:43.943
I want to listen.

00:36:44.264 --> 00:36:44.985
Yeah, probably not.

00:36:44.985 --> 00:36:47.952
You had a very bare-bones on-purpose episode that I sent you.

00:36:47.972 --> 00:36:58.539
It really was, and again, it was nice to get some kind of context, but it was very bare-bones and, like I was telling you, I'm like I feel like they jumped the gun on continuing their thought.

00:36:58.539 --> 00:37:02.086
Yeah, you said that they didn't really finish their thoughts.

00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:06.331
It seemed like it, but again I could have been wrong.

00:37:06.331 --> 00:37:08.505
Speaking of bear Sam, what kind of bear?

00:37:08.505 --> 00:37:08.947
What the?

00:37:09.027 --> 00:37:09.288
shit.

00:37:09.380 --> 00:37:13.543
It just says run in with a bear, okay, a giant bear, okay.

00:37:13.764 --> 00:37:14.168
So moving on.

00:37:14.168 --> 00:37:14.913
So a Russian bear.

00:37:15.721 --> 00:37:16.706
You know, a Russian bear.

00:37:17.260 --> 00:37:17.884
Moving on to.

00:37:18.065 --> 00:37:19.028
Yuri number two.

00:37:19.028 --> 00:37:19.773
Yuri number two.

00:37:20.262 --> 00:37:26.050
He actually he kind of okay discrepancies in information that I have received.

00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:30.344
Yes, some say he went by yuri, some say he went by gregory.

00:37:30.605 --> 00:37:35.822
So we're gonna separate the yuri gregory by saying gregory, yeah, that's perfect.

00:37:35.822 --> 00:37:38.150
Yeah, okay, because I'm not gonna fucking remember yeah.

00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:45.112
So we're gonna say gregory, this is krivonishenko krivonishenko don't get him confused with Doroshenko.

00:37:45.753 --> 00:37:47.405
Yes, how could you exactly the?

00:37:47.445 --> 00:37:49.119
last one was Yuri Doroshenko.

00:37:49.260 --> 00:37:57.166
This is Yuri Gregory Krivonishenko oh my god, just all the Shenkos, all the Yuri's so many.

00:37:57.226 --> 00:37:59.907
Yuri's so Gregory Krivonishenko?

00:38:02.233 --> 00:38:12.822
um, okay, so Gregory Krivonishenko was 24 20, so okay, oh so I was a little off in my age range.

00:38:12.822 --> 00:38:20.650
I thought there was like oh, we're not done yet no, I know that because I know there's a 38 year old too that's right, so but no, I thought it was 20 to 23.

00:38:20.650 --> 00:38:23.442
Either way, it doesn't, oh okay yeah, so he was.

00:38:23.641 --> 00:38:26.226
He was actually known for kind of being the class clown.

00:38:26.226 --> 00:38:31.052
He um he had some serious hiking chops as well.

00:38:31.052 --> 00:38:33.315
He was very, very seasoned um.

00:38:33.375 --> 00:39:01.608
He was a student of construction and hydraulics oh, that had to be pretty prevalent back in those days because the hydraulics probably would have been pretty yes, because after he graduated from upi yeah he went to chivalry, chivalry chivalry 40 40 like four zero four zero d40 only hey.

00:39:01.608 --> 00:39:02.509
Only Chibbalisk.

00:39:02.509 --> 00:39:04.309
Hey, she's bringing it back.

00:39:04.309 --> 00:39:05.751
And what does WD stand for?

00:39:07.192 --> 00:39:08.092
I already forgot.

00:39:09.213 --> 00:39:09.994
WD wet.

00:39:10.773 --> 00:39:12.114
Oh water displacement.

00:39:12.135 --> 00:39:15.677
Water displacement, and it was their 40th attempt Correct.

00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:18.342
My dad taught me that.

00:39:18.443 --> 00:39:18.903
Okay so.

00:39:19.244 --> 00:39:22.411
Chilabinsk is a nuclear plant.

00:39:22.411 --> 00:39:25.358
Thank you, fun fact.

00:39:25.619 --> 00:39:25.800
Oh, okay.

00:39:26.021 --> 00:39:26.983
Nuclear plant.

00:39:26.983 --> 00:39:28.809
Fun fact, nuclear plant.

00:39:28.809 --> 00:39:29.210
Thank you.

00:39:29.210 --> 00:39:30.094
Fun fact, okay, nuclear plant.

00:39:30.094 --> 00:39:31.438
Okay, it goes into the theories.

00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:46.835
It goes into the theories well, because some of them had radiation kravonishenko worked at a nuclear plant, right, okay it was like akin to chernobyl because there was an incident there, correct yeah.

00:39:47.139 --> 00:39:50.907
And I will briefly go over that as well for some additional context.

00:39:50.907 --> 00:39:51.268
Awesome.

00:39:51.268 --> 00:39:56.130
So Kravonishenko was also very musically talented.

00:39:56.130 --> 00:39:59.186
He was goofy, always joking the group Clown.

00:39:59.467 --> 00:40:00.007
What did he play?

00:40:00.007 --> 00:40:02.032
Mandolin, that's right.

00:40:02.300 --> 00:40:03.682
I thought she was going to say trumpet.

00:40:03.963 --> 00:40:07.271
Trumpet.

00:40:08.072 --> 00:40:08.793
Vodka trumpet.

00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.572
Next we have Alexander Kalevatov Kalevatov.

00:40:14.592 --> 00:40:16.065
Okay, he was also 24.

00:40:17.121 --> 00:40:19.951
He was very methodical and quiet.

00:40:19.951 --> 00:40:22.086
Okay, he has a background.

00:40:22.086 --> 00:40:22.943
Notice how.

00:40:22.983 --> 00:40:23.987
I also get quiet.

00:40:26.461 --> 00:40:28.666
He has a background in nuclear physics.

00:40:29.509 --> 00:40:29.990
Who doesn't?

00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:32.902
Because of why not Just?

00:40:32.942 --> 00:40:34.628
a background not like his specialty.

00:40:35.342 --> 00:40:38.108
He kind of had like an imposing presence.

00:40:38.891 --> 00:40:39.552
Is he a big dude?

00:40:40.681 --> 00:40:41.865
In his downtime.

00:40:41.987 --> 00:40:42.447
There it is.

00:40:43.701 --> 00:40:45.664
From studying nuclear physics.

00:40:45.664 --> 00:40:48.391
He would love to smoke on an antique pipe.

00:40:48.391 --> 00:40:49.240
Who wouldn't?

00:40:49.842 --> 00:40:50.784
like gandalf style.

00:40:50.983 --> 00:41:08.173
Yeah, nice he was a former tech lab at a top secret soviet institute okay he was quiet, serious, well organized, kind of of the brainy Smurf of them all.

00:41:08.793 --> 00:41:09.556
Brainy Smurf.

00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.789
Wow, that's a fucking weird-ass fucking call there.

00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:14.952
Look at you go.

00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.869
I used to love the fucking Smurfs when I was growing up.

00:41:17.869 --> 00:41:21.990
Actually, one of the first video games I had was a Smurfs game on the ColecnoVision.

00:41:22.940 --> 00:41:23.704
How nice for you.

00:41:23.704 --> 00:41:46.889
Shut the fuck up Back from the 50s, exactly clearly, I helped invent it um, so he's fucking old so kalevital was very personal and he did also have a diary or a journal, if you're an adult and he actually did not share much of his entries with other his other hikers, his other friends.

00:41:47.501 --> 00:41:48.626
He kept it very personal.

00:41:48.626 --> 00:41:50.206
I mean, that's the whole point.

00:41:50.619 --> 00:42:03.219
Yes, but the majority of these journals diaries are meant to be proof for their hiking grade three certification.

00:42:03.260 --> 00:42:04.806
But isn't that why they had the joint?

00:42:05.186 --> 00:42:07.451
diary yes, that's fair.

00:42:07.451 --> 00:42:09.201
Yes, that's fair, that's fair so.

00:42:09.661 --> 00:42:15.233
But you know you're out fucking hiking and you know trekking through the mountains.

00:42:15.233 --> 00:42:19.407
I would imagine you're doing some personal reflection on fair why?

00:42:19.407 --> 00:42:21.211
The fuck am I doing this?

00:42:21.532 --> 00:42:23.222
what is the meaning of life?

00:42:23.222 --> 00:42:24.786
Like you know, it's funny.

00:42:24.786 --> 00:42:28.373
Every time I do a podcast with Kate I ask why the fuck am I doing this?

00:42:28.373 --> 00:42:30.224
Meaning of life?

00:42:31.541 --> 00:42:33.108
Why do I keep coming out?

00:42:33.108 --> 00:42:35.469
Why do I wake up in the morning, exactly?

00:42:37.021 --> 00:42:44.094
No, I 100% agree, though, because you're going to have some personal reflection, because this is obviously they're trying to get their certification, of course, and whatever.

00:42:46.139 --> 00:42:57.460
they're trying to get their certification, of course, and whatever, but it's, it's, it's a extremely personal thing, like to accomplish this because at that time it's like really important to these people, yeah, because they want to be able to grow and whatever and be out in nature.

00:42:57.460 --> 00:42:59.907
So it's extremely personal as well.

00:42:59.907 --> 00:43:03.880
So I understand why he wouldn't want to share, yeah, his whole diary.

00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:08.583
Even again, that's why they had the, the joint diary, the group diary, whatever you want to call it.

00:43:08.583 --> 00:43:14.942
So I don't know I just feel like I get it why he wouldn't want to, yeah, share it.

00:43:15.202 --> 00:43:21.489
So so the next person we have is rustem slobodin rustem they also call Mm-hmm.

00:43:21.489 --> 00:43:23.451
They also called him Rustic.

00:43:23.451 --> 00:43:25.612
Who was it With a K?

00:43:26.514 --> 00:43:29.016
Oh, it's Russian, it's Russian, I get it.

00:43:30.402 --> 00:43:32.173
So Slobodin was 23.

00:43:32.173 --> 00:43:34.304
Okay, he was very athletic.

00:43:34.304 --> 00:43:45.826
He was very fit, very tall and he was probably not confirmed, but probably one of the ones that would ski ahead of others, like he would be the front of the line.

00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:47.304
Kind of the scouted out kind of thing.

00:43:47.304 --> 00:43:48.188
Yeah, okay, gotcha.

00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.684
Kind of pave the way, if you will.

00:43:49.684 --> 00:43:51.811
Is that an idiom, pave the way?

00:43:52.099 --> 00:43:55.653
I mean, it is now Sure, that's right, I'm going to make it so.

00:43:55.653 --> 00:43:57.039
Rights and idioms.

00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:01.342
He was a mechanical engineering graduate.

00:44:01.623 --> 00:44:01.922
Okay.

00:44:02.842 --> 00:44:05.284
So he was known for his endurance and speed.

00:44:05.284 --> 00:44:09.146
He ran long distance cross country and was an avid skier.

00:44:09.146 --> 00:44:13.090
He was very friendly, disciplined, enjoyed writing poetry.

00:44:13.090 --> 00:44:20.773
He was also musically gifted and enjoyed playing the mandolin as well, and he was actually called the group's rich kid.

00:44:20.773 --> 00:44:22.275
Rich kid, yeah.

00:44:22.454 --> 00:44:22.775
Okay.

00:44:22.954 --> 00:44:27.297
But so he was a son of affluent university professors.

00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:28.239
Gotcha.

00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:36.534
But they all said Rustic Rustem was as unpretentious and friendly as they come.

00:44:37.179 --> 00:44:39.268
Oh, so he was the nice guy yeah.

00:44:39.539 --> 00:44:41.065
He was a very nice guy.

00:44:41.065 --> 00:44:46.206
Okay, despite his affluent upbringing, sure, he wasn't all about him.

00:44:48.021 --> 00:44:53.992
Yeah, because it's weird that some people who are brought up in that environment aren't total douchebags.

00:44:54.592 --> 00:44:55.193
Weird yeah.

00:44:55.193 --> 00:44:59.088
Next we have Nikolai Thibaut Brignol.

00:45:00.530 --> 00:45:00.972
Thibaut.

00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:02.905
Thibaut Nigbral.

00:45:03.139 --> 00:45:04.445
Is that his middle name?

00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:05.481
It was a hyphenated last name.

00:45:05.481 --> 00:45:06.686
Oh okay, thibaut Brignol, is that his middle name?

00:45:06.706 --> 00:45:07.851
It was a hyphenated last name.

00:45:07.871 --> 00:45:09.518
Oh, okay, thibaut Brignol, so he was 23.

00:45:09.518 --> 00:45:13.250
Okay, he also had a very solid outdoor record.

00:45:13.250 --> 00:45:16.610
He graduated in industrial civil construction.

00:45:17.081 --> 00:45:18.644
Another dumbass on the trip.

00:45:19.005 --> 00:45:24.650
Seriously, oh my gosh, this makes me feel like such a fucking underachiever.

00:45:24.650 --> 00:45:26.887
I've got a degree in management.

00:45:27.740 --> 00:45:31.644
What's a degree I don't even have one of them Cross room high five.

00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:33.726
Holy fuck Same.

00:45:34.019 --> 00:45:37.929
I've got fucking nothing to show for almost 40 years on this planet.

00:45:38.088 --> 00:45:39.893
Speak for yourself I'm almost 40 years.

00:45:41.621 --> 00:45:42.585
I'm fucking 45.

00:45:42.585 --> 00:45:44.489
Fuck all of you, jesus Christ, sam's over here, like I'm not even 40.

00:45:44.489 --> 00:45:44.990
I'm fucking 45.

00:45:44.990 --> 00:45:48.985
Fuck all of you, jesus Christ, sam's over here, like I'm not even 40.

00:45:49.005 --> 00:45:50.849
I'm only 33.

00:45:50.869 --> 00:45:51.170
33.

00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:51.329
I know.

00:45:51.349 --> 00:45:53.114
What a baby 33.

00:45:53.114 --> 00:45:53.581
What?

00:45:53.581 --> 00:45:56.744
A baby, I remember being 33.

00:45:57.085 --> 00:45:58.809
I don't Okay so.

00:45:58.909 --> 00:45:59.552
I wish, I did.

00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:07.179
Okay, so Nikolai Thibault Brignol graduated into industrial civil construction.

00:46:07.179 --> 00:46:09.887
Okay, he was very quiet but very reliable.

00:46:09.887 --> 00:46:13.090
He was handsome and he was of noble French lineage.

00:46:13.090 --> 00:46:16.530
Apparently that was the thing they wanted to include in their description of him.

00:46:16.931 --> 00:46:17.030
No.

00:46:17.030 --> 00:46:18.384
So who is he?

00:46:18.384 --> 00:46:19.407
What family was he?

00:46:20.041 --> 00:46:23.998
That was not part of my research the Thibault, part the Thibault.

00:46:25.023 --> 00:46:26.188
Oh, the Thibault family.

00:46:28.563 --> 00:46:31.900
I should have put that together, not the Brignoles, fuck the Brignoles.

00:46:31.900 --> 00:46:32.610
Who's ever heard of?

00:46:32.630 --> 00:46:32.733
the.

00:46:32.773 --> 00:46:33.219
Brignoles.

00:46:33.219 --> 00:46:35.949
Nobody Thibaut though 100%.

00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:37.465
Everybody knows the Thibauts.

00:46:39.206 --> 00:46:39.989
What the fuck.

00:46:40.141 --> 00:46:43.659
He was calm under pressure and he was scientifically minded.

00:46:43.659 --> 00:46:45.909
And that is all I have for Nikolai.

00:46:45.909 --> 00:46:50.204
He has a very short bio, very short, not sure why, but he's.

00:46:50.425 --> 00:46:59.001
He has a very short bio, but he's only 23 there's a 20 year old who has a bio heavier than he does okay um.

00:46:59.202 --> 00:47:04.925
Next, not quite last, but next we have semyon Zolotaryov.

00:47:05.365 --> 00:47:07.307
Semyon, let's spell that.

00:47:07.827 --> 00:47:09.668
S-E-M-Y-O-N.

00:47:09.668 --> 00:47:10.769
Almost like Simon.

00:47:10.769 --> 00:47:12.931
It's like their version of Simon.

00:47:12.931 --> 00:47:15.492
S-e-m-y-o-n.

00:47:15.492 --> 00:47:16.273
Semyon.

00:47:16.532 --> 00:47:19.135
It just reminds me of Eurotrip.

00:47:19.135 --> 00:47:20.675
It's like Mika.

00:47:21.655 --> 00:47:22.157
And Micah.

00:47:22.157 --> 00:47:24.257
Yeah, mike, it's Mike.

00:47:24.257 --> 00:47:28.262
No, it's mika, it's our version of michelle yes, yes, exactly, sorry anyways.

00:47:28.563 --> 00:47:28.682
Um.

00:47:28.682 --> 00:47:30.208
So have you seen that movie?

00:47:30.228 --> 00:47:39.230
yeah, okay good okay, so semion, he actually went by sasha, which is a very, very popular russian nickname for men is it really?

00:47:39.309 --> 00:47:45.005
yes not as popular as yuri, but yeah yuri is super popular.

00:47:45.085 --> 00:47:45.967
Oh, we're not done with the.

00:47:45.967 --> 00:47:46.949
The year is yet.

00:47:47.230 --> 00:47:56.291
Oh fuck, more years so sasha zelatoly zolotaryov was 38 so he was the oldest one.

00:47:56.291 --> 00:48:02.344
Yes, and some documents have said he's 37, so not sure if he was 37 or 38 throw it all out.

00:48:02.585 --> 00:48:12.449
I know discrepancy he was a late edition I heard that yes yes and that other one I listened to, so why was he a late edition like he?

00:48:12.489 --> 00:48:19.204
was a late edition and a mandated edition I didn't read anything about mandated what do you know about that?

00:48:19.204 --> 00:48:27.693
So they had planned their trip without him, right, and then they were told this guy's coming with you.

00:48:28.494 --> 00:48:33.965
Oh, okay, is what I know and see I have found something different.

00:48:33.965 --> 00:48:41.224
What I have found was that he was originally going to hike with sergey sorgren and his group.

00:48:41.224 --> 00:49:06.396
Sergey sorgren had his own little hiking group in this in the ural mountains, at the same time as the group, just in a different area okay and they were headed further north into the sub polar urals, but when sorghen's timetable didn't suit zolotaryov he signed up.

00:49:06.456 --> 00:49:24.027
Sorokin introduced him to Igor oh interesting and then the timing was perfect for that situation, as another hiker that was originally part of Igor's group his name was Nikolai Popov had recently dropped out of Igor's party, and so they kind of shoveled him in.

00:49:24.601 --> 00:49:29.106
So that's very interesting, there's so many variations.

00:49:29.186 --> 00:49:30.150
It's very weird.

00:49:32.003 --> 00:49:37.208
Well, my understanding is they were right before they went up the mountain.

00:49:37.208 --> 00:49:43.067
They converged on this little town, and I've heard that as well.

00:49:43.067 --> 00:49:53.567
While they were in this little town, they kind of happened with some other like-minded people, right, because he doesn't fit the bill, he's like the oldest one.

00:49:53.567 --> 00:49:57.050
He's like kind of the weird uncle.

00:49:57.621 --> 00:49:59.027
He was in the military.

00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.108
Okay, but like you hike, and I fuck with that.

00:50:02.108 --> 00:50:03.827
So like, just come on with us.

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:04.934
Like what's one more.

00:50:04.934 --> 00:50:13.242
You know, it does seem kind of odd just because, like all these young kids, again 20 to 24, and then all of a sudden you had a 38 year old.

00:50:13.302 --> 00:50:17.250
It seems weird, the 38 year old becomes part of a theory.

00:50:17.469 --> 00:50:20.521
Yes, right, yes, because he's the weird uncle.

00:50:21.081 --> 00:50:33.625
Well, duh so just to quickly put in a little tidbit yeah if it's the way of that other hiker dropping out of igor's for um what's his name?

00:50:33.625 --> 00:50:34.827
Zolotario have to come in.

00:50:34.827 --> 00:50:37.672
Um this nikolay popov.

00:50:37.672 --> 00:50:44.771
Um, he dropped out of the hikers group even before they initially started.

00:50:44.951 --> 00:50:59.907
Okay, so so, while they were in this, the background on some of the stories I've read, yeah, when they are in this little town and they kind of cross paths, so to speak, um, what's his name?

00:51:00.427 --> 00:51:09.980
zolotaria, zolotaria, the 38 year old, I just you know they all kind of blend together and a big rushing dribble in my brain Yuri, yuri, yuri, yuri, exactly I get it but.

00:51:10.019 --> 00:51:12.088
I do know Zaneta and Dubinia.

00:51:13.090 --> 00:51:13.552
Fair enough.

00:51:13.552 --> 00:51:16.152
Okay, I remember the ladies and Igor and Dialog, and Dialog.

00:51:16.152 --> 00:51:18.266
Yeah, how can you not know, igor Fuck.

00:51:18.500 --> 00:51:50.210
But while they're in this little town I the background story to that, you know he falls out with his group because from my understanding they just didn't want to do that long of a thing and he's like lingering around this little town, this little mountain, trying to find somebody to being like I don't want to go and I want to push on, and that's how they kind of connected and they're like we're about to do this 16-day crazy-ass shit, if you want to catch.

00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:51.500
Yeah, why don't you hop on, man we?

00:51:51.539 --> 00:51:53.105
got room for one more yeah.

00:51:53.967 --> 00:51:55.764
I've heard that it's so bizarre.

00:51:55.844 --> 00:51:56.407
Interesting.

00:51:56.407 --> 00:51:59.268
It is kind of a weird addition.

00:52:00.025 --> 00:52:04.686
It's a weird addition and it's very weird that there's little inconsistencies between stories.

00:52:04.826 --> 00:52:08.572
Yeah, because, like you said they, met at this town.

00:52:08.572 --> 00:52:10.875
It was mandated, they met at this town.

00:52:10.875 --> 00:52:12.184
I mean, what is it?

00:52:12.184 --> 00:52:13.007
It's hard to say.

00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:21.059
It's just quite strange that it is kind of weird that way Also, if I'm chasing this big of a goal right, yeah, right right.

00:52:21.059 --> 00:52:26.271
And I'm doing this kind of personal reflection bit with myself.

00:52:26.271 --> 00:52:31.170
Yeah, I don't want someone I don't know like coming into the group.

00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.429
I'm going to be extremely sketchy about that 100% yeah.

00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:35.242
That's like nope.

00:52:35.242 --> 00:52:36.869
This is my bubble of people.

00:52:36.869 --> 00:52:38.480
Get the fuck out of my bubble.

00:52:38.782 --> 00:52:39.226
I don't know you.

00:52:39.226 --> 00:52:58.666
And wasn't it Zanata who had like, I don't want to watch you wash your feet like wasn't it zenita you had like history of all of them yeah so like having this newcomer come in and she's like I've had experience with all of these hikers but you are an outsider.

00:52:58.686 --> 00:53:07.755
Well, sounds like she did have some experience with those hikers but, but she gets around, they no she just kidding.

00:53:07.775 --> 00:53:14.155
Very respectful they were all very respectful, and they did bring him in as one of their own no, yeah, it's just.

00:53:14.456 --> 00:53:18.427
It's weird to have some discrepancies in how he joined up.

00:53:18.427 --> 00:53:19.909
Yeah, is I guess all I'm going.

00:53:19.929 --> 00:53:25.507
Well, I think, and it could be too, you know so one falls out of your party.

00:53:25.507 --> 00:53:28.112
Yeah, I don't know if it speaks to.

00:53:28.112 --> 00:53:36.663
To get the category three, you have to have x amount of people complete this, that's a good point, because, yeah, I don't know that.

00:53:36.923 --> 00:53:48.929
That just looks better for you, right like you're able to just pick one up on the way and you know, you don't know their background, you don't know what they can contribute to your group, but hey, we found this guy along the way and let's bring him with.

00:53:48.929 --> 00:53:53.706
We dragged him up the fucking mountain so great and that's a good point.

00:53:53.766 --> 00:53:58.481
Yeah, that's a good point okay, last person of the group.

00:53:59.702 --> 00:54:03.007
Yes, yuri what another yuri?

00:54:03.188 --> 00:54:04.168
this is shocker.

00:54:04.168 --> 00:54:05.931
This is is Yuri Yudin.

00:54:05.931 --> 00:54:07.134
He's 21.

00:54:07.554 --> 00:54:08.054
Yudin.

00:54:08.780 --> 00:54:19.472
He is a student of geology and engineering, of course, so he suffered from lifelong sciatica.

00:54:20.262 --> 00:54:21.445
This is the one that turned back.

00:54:21.847 --> 00:54:46.128
Yes, right back yes, right, he suffered from lifelong sciatica, which is an inflammation of the low nerve low sciatica or lumbar nerve and rheumatism, and he had a heart condition as well, which, as doing like additional research that really the only thing that popped up multiple times was the sciatica.

00:54:46.128 --> 00:54:50.135
Yeah, but other sources say heart condition and rheumatism.

00:54:55.722 --> 00:54:59.699
Yeah, because I think they only mentioned in that one that you sent me was oh fuck, that was a table the sciatica, Sciatica.

00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:04.431
Yeah, he also had supposedly chronic knee pain and back pain.

00:55:04.871 --> 00:55:05.193
Okay.

00:55:05.621 --> 00:55:09.130
And supposedly he was the one that carried the medicine kit.

00:55:09.130 --> 00:55:11.242
They're like here you go, you need it.

00:55:11.262 --> 00:55:13.427
the most, so you get access to what's the most.

00:55:13.427 --> 00:55:15.572
This is all your shit, just carry it yourself.

00:55:16.860 --> 00:55:17.985
These are all your meds.

00:55:17.985 --> 00:55:18.367
Here you go.

00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:22.096
Please tell me he, before he turned back, he gave them to me, I'm sure he did.

00:55:22.619 --> 00:55:24.985
Well, I mean, who's around to tell?

00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:29.601
Yeah of them.

00:55:29.601 --> 00:55:30.501
I'm sure he did okay.

00:55:30.501 --> 00:55:31.864
Well, I mean, who's around to tell yeah, touche, okay?

00:55:31.864 --> 00:55:33.266
So to kind of help spread the uh, the connections here.

00:55:33.266 --> 00:55:41.125
Um, he did leave the expedition on january 28th due to back pain in sciatica.

00:55:41.125 --> 00:55:45.711
Yeah it's flaring up um, and and also his knee and joint pain.

00:55:45.711 --> 00:55:47.394
Okay, so, oh shit.

00:55:47.659 --> 00:55:53.889
Which in negative whatever is, they put it all in Celsius because it's Russia.

00:55:54.282 --> 00:55:57.347
So whatever that equates to in theory, I have tried to change that?

00:55:58.202 --> 00:55:59.048
Can't think about it.

00:55:59.048 --> 00:56:01.623
It's fucking cold Like you can't imagine.

00:56:01.884 --> 00:56:08.981
Any of those health conditions are going to be good Fuck no, and then as physical as he has to be.

00:56:08.981 --> 00:56:32.226
Yeah, as well right and also not having the comfort of normal probably normal food day in and day out, right, yeah normal water, day in and day out right, yeah so, um so, just to kind of reiterate, these people are very smart and very experienced with hiking, hiking in cold.

00:56:33.300 --> 00:56:35.467
Well, I mean, you are in Russia, in Siberia.

00:56:36.460 --> 00:56:38.248
One of their party fought a fucking bear.

00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:43.052
I mean and bit by a viper snake Shot in the leg Bullet.

00:56:43.981 --> 00:56:45.809
We don't know what kind of bear, but he fought a bear.

00:56:47.460 --> 00:56:49.268
He fought a Russian bear, okay.

00:56:49.268 --> 00:56:53.159
I think, I turned a little Spanish there at the end.

00:56:53.219 --> 00:56:55.528
I know I was like me gusta cerveza.

00:56:56.081 --> 00:57:00.813
So let's talk a little bit about the terrain that they experienced.

00:57:00.813 --> 00:57:13.005
They were trekking through the northern Ural Mountains, which is rugged, it's remote, it's covered in dense forest and steep slopes, Right For the most part.

00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.967
For the most part, that's pretty much how I envision all of Russia.

00:57:16.967 --> 00:57:18.010
It's fair.

00:57:19.563 --> 00:57:22.496
So their target was Ortorten Mountain.

00:57:22.677 --> 00:57:23.139
Ortorten.

00:57:23.521 --> 00:57:26.858
Which was a bald mountain, it had no hair.

00:57:26.878 --> 00:57:27.320
It had no hair.

00:57:28.099 --> 00:57:29.083
It had no trees.

00:57:29.344 --> 00:57:29.806
Oh, that too.

00:57:30.347 --> 00:57:30.608
Yes.

00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:32.621
I have a bald mountain.

00:57:33.043 --> 00:57:33.844
You sure do.

00:57:34.164 --> 00:57:34.806
You sure do.

00:57:35.387 --> 00:57:39.514
Good, yes, can confirm Gold star.

00:57:46.422 --> 00:57:46.903
Look away.

00:57:47.847 --> 00:57:48.309
Don't look at her.

00:57:48.309 --> 00:57:50.539
Don't look away, don't look at her.

00:57:50.539 --> 00:58:06.487
Okay, so the the mountain was well above the tree line and some considered the local tribes they think the local tribes of the area considered this mountain sacred.

00:58:06.807 --> 00:58:08.630
Right, okay, do you have an elevation?

00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:15.465
Yes, do you have an elevation?

00:58:16.300 --> 00:58:18.610
I don't have an elevation of Orch Horton Mountain.

00:58:18.610 --> 00:58:21.733
I have an elevation of where they camped on Orch Horton Mountain.

00:58:22.034 --> 00:58:22.938
That works Okay, okay.

00:58:23.701 --> 00:58:26.688
And I have three sentences from now.

00:58:26.688 --> 00:58:30.155
So she's so proud of herself.

00:58:30.155 --> 00:58:31.463
I really am.

00:58:31.463 --> 00:58:42.447
But so the mansi population, which is the indigenous tribe on this mountain, correct, does not recommend does not recommend camping on this mountain.

00:58:42.489 --> 00:58:43.811
Well, I mean, who would?

00:58:44.592 --> 00:58:45.873
No one now.

00:58:45.954 --> 00:58:47.746
Exactly 100%, nobody.

00:58:48.460 --> 00:58:58.452
So the area that they pitch their tent, the final camp, is called Kolat Sikl Sikl Cycle Cycle.

00:58:58.452 --> 00:59:05.083
I don't know, it's Russian it all is Sikl Cycle, sikl Cycle, sikl Cycle, sikl Cycle.

00:59:05.123 --> 00:59:14.728
Anemia cycle cycle cycle, cycle cycle cycle cycle anemia it it translates to dead mountain.

00:59:14.748 --> 00:59:15.811
Yes, that's what I heard.

00:59:15.811 --> 00:59:17.054
That's what?

00:59:17.114 --> 00:59:19.541
but dead mountain is in reference to nothing really is growing up there.

00:59:19.541 --> 00:59:24.148
Yes, it's still one of those, like it's very ominous yeah, of course it's dead mountain.

00:59:24.208 --> 00:59:28.061
Don't come here right, okay, so how tall is it?

00:59:28.521 --> 00:59:42.264
the elevation is 3,763 feet that is it 3,750 feet mount everest, though like not even close not even close.

00:59:42.644 --> 00:59:44.228
Oh, no, no, not even close.

00:59:44.228 --> 00:59:44.809
So.

00:59:45.389 --> 00:59:47.434
I like to go to Colorado a lot, that's all right.

00:59:47.434 --> 00:59:53.172
I like to go to Colorado a lot and my favorite mountain to go up is Mount Evans.

00:59:53.172 --> 00:59:54.666
It's by Idaho Springs.

00:59:54.666 --> 00:59:56.606
It's over 14,000 feet.

00:59:57.148 --> 00:59:59.025
Oh, so this isn't shit.

00:59:59.025 --> 01:00:00.248
No, this.

01:00:01.521 --> 01:00:13.871
It is not what you call a steep mountain, despite what I just said the hilly terrain, yeah, when I said that the Ural Mountains were steep, this one particularly was not that steep.

01:00:14.052 --> 01:00:14.452
Got it.

01:00:14.452 --> 01:00:17.597
So there's other peaks and stuff within this mountain range?

01:00:17.617 --> 01:00:20.128
Oh yeah, it's a mountain range, yeah, gotcha.

01:00:20.128 --> 01:00:35.016
So they set up camp on the eastern slope at a height of 1,079 meters, which equals 3,540 feet.

01:00:36.077 --> 01:00:36.297
Okay.

01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.226
Okay, so that's where they set camp.

01:00:38.226 --> 01:00:41.186
Okay 3,540 feet.

01:00:41.186 --> 01:00:46.452
Okay, so, about 300 meters below the mountain's peak Right, that's where they were.

01:00:46.452 --> 01:00:48.137
Okay, okay, so about 300 meters below the mountain's peak Right.

01:00:48.137 --> 01:00:48.719
That's where they were, okay.

01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:54.913
Okay, it is known for high wind exposure and no natural cover.

01:00:54.913 --> 01:00:56.547
There's no forest.

01:00:57.699 --> 01:00:59.081
Well, it's barren, because nothing grows there.

01:00:59.101 --> 01:01:01.123
It's bald, yes, it's literally bald.

01:01:01.164 --> 01:01:03.547
It's bald Like my dog, yeah, yes.

01:01:07.090 --> 01:01:10.635
I mean, I'm not wrong there it is no you're not there, it is.

01:01:11.315 --> 01:01:14.206
Okay, oh dear, why did they camp there?

01:01:15.561 --> 01:01:16.985
I don't know, because they're on a slope.

01:01:16.985 --> 01:01:18.130
Why would they do that?

01:01:18.130 --> 01:01:18.282
They?

01:01:18.302 --> 01:01:27.512
were experienced, they knew better than to camp in the open on a slope during a snowstorm, which is what happened that night.

01:01:27.512 --> 01:01:29.514
Okay, supposedly.

01:01:29.795 --> 01:01:32.586
Supposedly that is a huge, supposedly.

01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:38.992
The forest was almost a mile, 1.5 kilometers like a .9 mile.

01:01:39.012 --> 01:01:39.713
Okay.

01:01:40.420 --> 01:01:45.541
Downhill, where trees would have offered shelter for them, which?

01:01:45.601 --> 01:01:46.402
would have been ideal.

01:01:47.626 --> 01:01:49.751
So why Possible reasons?

01:01:49.751 --> 01:01:57.070
They got off course due to poor visibility in the snowstorm and they couldn't find the forest line in the snow Right.

01:01:57.070 --> 01:02:03.480
Igor Dyatlov may have decided to camp on the slope for practice for emergencies.

01:02:04.059 --> 01:02:05.365
That sounds like shitty practice.

01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:10.525
It's just to add to that hiker grade three certification.

01:02:10.545 --> 01:02:14.494
I get that, but fuck that man they got a late start, did they not?

01:02:14.494 --> 01:02:17.724
I don't recall I is that part of?

01:02:17.724 --> 01:02:17.865
It.

01:02:17.865 --> 01:02:23.621
I've heard some background that they got a late start that day.

01:02:23.621 --> 01:02:27.132
Um, they started a little bit later than they should have possible.

01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:38.181
I wrote it later in my notes and I just don't remember, because I've looked at this for a month yeah, it's fair, but they got a late start chicken wing they should have like been at a different point.

01:02:38.862 --> 01:02:42.130
Um, it got dark and they're like we're done.

01:02:42.150 --> 01:02:42.570
Yeah this is not safe.

01:02:42.570 --> 01:02:43.152
This is where we are, we got.

01:02:43.152 --> 01:02:44.735
We can't see where we're going anymore, especially need to set up camp.

01:02:44.735 --> 01:02:45.277
Yeah, this is not safe.

01:02:45.277 --> 01:02:45.838
This is where we are.

01:02:45.838 --> 01:02:46.260
We got to set up.

01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:47.880
We can't see where we're going anymore.

01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:48.501
Well, especially.

01:02:48.583 --> 01:02:49.887
Like what did I hear?

01:02:49.887 --> 01:02:52.168
Like at some points it was negative 40.

01:02:52.168 --> 01:02:56.429
And, like they said, it doesn't matter if it's Celsius or Fahrenheit, because it crosses over at that point.

01:02:56.429 --> 01:02:58.634
So I mean, it's fucking terrible.

01:02:58.634 --> 01:03:05.355
You know, I like cold Me too, Like this is fucking warm.

01:03:05.355 --> 01:03:09.288
I'm really excited to not be this warm soon.

01:03:09.820 --> 01:03:12.349
Anyways, and my hands are like numb.

01:03:12.349 --> 01:03:14.766
And I'm wearing thermal leggings.

01:03:15.186 --> 01:03:16.070
Well, yeah, that will do it.

01:03:16.070 --> 01:03:20.465
Well, either way, it's fine.

01:03:20.465 --> 01:03:24.606
So it's like I like cold, but holy fuck, that's cold.

01:03:26.402 --> 01:03:27.326
I'm just a cold girl.

01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:29.804
She's wearing a thermal leg.

01:03:29.804 --> 01:03:35.244
In a cold world, it's like end of June, are you cold?

01:03:36.001 --> 01:03:38.007
Yeah, my hands are cold, Holy fuck.

01:03:39.740 --> 01:03:41.786
If I could reach out and let you warm up on my arm.

01:03:41.786 --> 01:03:42.969
I'm fucking dying.

01:03:43.030 --> 01:03:43.452
Same.

01:03:46.061 --> 01:03:49.112
Yeah, jesus Christ, I'm going to unroll my sleeve up on my arm.

01:03:49.112 --> 01:03:49.653
I'm fucking dying same.

01:03:49.693 --> 01:04:24.088
Yeah, jesus christ, I feel like sam needs to, like I am get into like the camera view, just be like hey, I am here go ahead everybody hey, I'm here, I exist, our beer wench anyway and taco wench, taco okay so another potential reason, uh reason they may have feared that backtracking downhill in darkness would lead to additional injury or even being lost, so that's why they built on the slope, or they?

01:04:24.128 --> 01:04:42.427
theorized at this point that they intended to finish the climb the next morning, so they stopping here made sense as to like do that final push in the morning, right okay, fair enough okay, so lots of different theories of why they would stop on a barren slope, but this isn't all.

01:04:42.467 --> 01:04:50.871
Jokes aside, this isn't a group of dumbasses on their first fucking hike, and that's the thing they're accomplished fucking hikers so why wouldn't you go?

01:04:50.871 --> 01:05:02.043
It had to have been unsafe conditions, right, because there's no way they're just gonna stop there and be like guess we'll finish make it up tomorrow.

01:05:02.103 --> 01:05:03.806
No, you're% right.

01:05:04.086 --> 01:05:09.235
They know the risks, they know there's no fucking way to get a hold of anybody.

01:05:09.235 --> 01:05:12.425
No radios, it's you and the snow.

01:05:12.646 --> 01:05:16.010
Yep, no, you're right because, like you said, they're accomplished.

01:05:16.010 --> 01:05:19.070
They would know better than to just stop there, right?

01:05:19.070 --> 01:05:28.530
So it just seems really odd that they would, knowing how accomplished they were leading up to this certificate.

01:05:28.550 --> 01:05:30.905
Three, whatever category three category three thank you.

01:05:30.905 --> 01:05:44.650
Like certificate, basically, they knew better so there is some scuttlebutt, scuttlebutt that they, you know, got this late start.

01:05:44.650 --> 01:05:57.677
Yeah, and that was done purposely by diatlov to push them, based on the conditions and things like that, to go more to this category.

01:05:57.757 --> 01:06:02.186
Three thing I had not heard that, yeah that sounds like a terrible fucking idea.

01:06:02.286 --> 01:06:08.090
I mean again, this isn't a group of inexperienced tourists on their first hike.

01:06:08.150 --> 01:06:15.344
This is experienced people I could understand like hey, we're gonna push you a little bit yeah I can understand that, but like?

01:06:15.985 --> 01:06:17.972
did other people know that, or did he?

01:06:18.112 --> 01:06:20.079
I mean that's, that's the mystery.

01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:23.927
It's pure speculation, obviously, yeah, but it's like why would?

01:06:23.927 --> 01:06:25.010
Why would you do that?

01:06:25.010 --> 01:06:26.733
I don't know like?

01:06:26.793 --> 01:06:29.871
why would you make everybody wash their feet before the end of the night?

01:06:29.871 --> 01:06:30.273
You know?

01:06:30.293 --> 01:06:36.090
because he had a foot fucking well 100 okay, let's talk about the weather briefly here.

01:06:36.210 --> 01:06:36.630
Get in there.

01:06:36.630 --> 01:06:39.945
Nice and deep, like the estimated temps on the mountain.

01:06:39.945 --> 01:06:42.831
Yeah, negative 30 degrees celsius.

01:06:43.652 --> 01:06:44.574
Or more yes.

01:06:44.594 --> 01:06:48.393
Approximately negative 22 degrees Fahrenheit.

01:06:48.414 --> 01:06:50.452
That's fucking insane.

01:06:50.492 --> 01:06:55.702
That is not considering wind chill Right?

01:06:55.782 --> 01:06:57.489
No, that's just straight up temperature.

01:06:57.599 --> 01:06:59.822
At least one of my organs is shutting down.

01:06:59.822 --> 01:07:02.931
At that point I'm done.

01:07:03.626 --> 01:07:05.501
Are you typically a warm weather person?

01:07:05.501 --> 01:07:06.585
Do you like warm weather?

01:07:06.626 --> 01:07:10.465
No, I mean like I'm a big girl, I don't like being too warm.

01:07:10.465 --> 01:07:13.137
Sure, I would rather be too cold than too warm.

01:07:13.157 --> 01:07:18.907
Okay, you like the like early 80s outside.

01:07:19.168 --> 01:07:20.190
Like the decade.

01:07:20.190 --> 01:07:22.914
Outside Temperature Temperature.

01:07:24.481 --> 01:07:26.088
I like the temperature it is now.

01:07:26.088 --> 01:07:30.063
I like being cold, but with layers.

01:07:30.063 --> 01:07:32.288
Okay, that's my thing well, I always.

01:07:32.748 --> 01:07:40.126
The way I always look at is you can always put more on, yeah, take more off yeah, at some point it becomes indecent exposure.

01:07:40.126 --> 01:07:46.835
Well, that that, or you need to like slice your skin off Skinsuit and peel it off.

01:07:46.835 --> 01:07:52.291
So no, I am warm at like 60 degrees.

01:07:52.291 --> 01:07:57.809
Yeah, so like this to me has been unbearable this past week and a half or whatever.

01:07:57.809 --> 01:08:00.034
I fucking hate the heat.

01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:02.327
So like my air conditioner was out.

01:08:02.708 --> 01:08:02.929
Oh shit.

01:08:03.121 --> 01:08:08.693
And it was 89 degrees and you just got yeah and eight, like there.

01:08:08.693 --> 01:08:13.367
There was a coil issue that's been you just got ac for like what?

01:08:13.407 --> 01:08:15.853
six to eight thousand dollars like six grand do.

01:08:16.140 --> 01:08:27.372
Yeah, holy shit and her little cute house she just got ac there was a fucking issue already they had been out three times and on the third time they found that there was a coil problem.

01:08:27.372 --> 01:08:31.328
Oh good, lord so in in their defense.

01:08:31.328 --> 01:08:40.627
They did fix it um, because I had very many mean conversations with like I believe my fucking grandma lives in this house.

01:08:40.747 --> 01:08:52.792
I have two black cats like right, I'm a big gal like I can't fucking sleep in 90 degree weather did you tell them be like, I'm a big gal, I can't do this lady get over here.

01:08:53.393 --> 01:08:58.747
No, um, but it was like it was fucking gross, like that made me physically sick too.

01:08:58.747 --> 01:09:05.127
So like that's too much, but like I get that I'm a thermal leggings in late june with the ac on.

01:09:05.307 --> 01:09:25.542
I can't kind of go, I can't I can't can't do it there, it is okay wind chill wind chill yeah, wind chill yes gusts up to 45 to 67 miles an hour on this mountain.

01:09:25.684 --> 01:09:29.329
What is the the miles per hour in a hurricane?

01:09:32.194 --> 01:09:32.515
Sam.

01:09:34.881 --> 01:09:35.805
To the Google machine.

01:09:37.899 --> 01:09:41.230
I mean that's like highway speeds at the top right 65?

01:09:41.411 --> 01:09:50.953
Yes, so it did bring down the estimated temperatures from negative 22 degrees Fahrenheit to negative 58 degrees Fahrenheit.

01:09:51.033 --> 01:09:51.654
Oh, that's it.

01:09:51.734 --> 01:09:52.295
That's it.

01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:54.663
Average hurricane.

01:09:54.703 --> 01:10:01.078
Wind speeds can range from 74 miles per hour to over 157 miles per hour, so almost.

01:10:01.280 --> 01:10:04.532
Just about there, almost hurricane levels.

01:10:04.591 --> 01:10:06.095
That's fucking wild, that's crazy.

01:10:06.095 --> 01:10:07.399
Just about there, that's just on the verge.

01:10:02.699 --> 01:10:02.912
Almost hurricane levels.

01:10:02.912 --> 01:10:03.076
That's fucking wild, that's crazy, jesus Christ.

01:10:07.460 --> 01:10:11.792
The visibility was very poor, almost non-existent during storms.

01:10:11.792 --> 01:10:14.788
The snowfall was heavy, with deep, deep drifts.

01:10:15.069 --> 01:10:15.270
Yeah.

01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:17.182
Basically everybody.

01:10:17.182 --> 01:10:22.394
It was nightmare fuel for pretty much everybody.

01:10:23.020 --> 01:10:24.143
Nightmare fuel, nightmare fuel.

01:10:24.384 --> 01:10:31.208
Nightmare fuel Nightmare fuel, nightmare Fuel, nightmare Fuel Okay, okay, let's talk about briefly their gear and supplies.

01:10:31.329 --> 01:10:31.529
Yeah.

01:10:31.569 --> 01:10:34.243
Okay, they had a homemade tent.

01:10:35.845 --> 01:10:36.287
Who made it?

01:10:37.750 --> 01:10:44.694
Yuri Nope, igor, igor Dyatlov and somebody else that I'm going to bring up later.

01:10:44.715 --> 01:10:45.417
Oh, okay.

01:10:47.802 --> 01:10:53.054
It was two four-person tents sewn together.

01:10:54.381 --> 01:10:56.206
So what did they do with the extra person?

01:10:58.371 --> 01:10:58.792
Bradley.

01:11:00.001 --> 01:11:06.507
She said two four-person tents Yep Sewn together, that's eight, there's nine people Bradley Ten originally.

01:11:06.569 --> 01:11:09.427
That's why it's really important to wash your feet before you get in there.

01:11:09.427 --> 01:11:23.405
So fucking true, you're obviously sleeping like foot to face, foot to face, gear crammed in there.

01:11:23.405 --> 01:11:26.087
That's fucking fantastic.

01:11:29.801 --> 01:11:30.444
Oh, my beer's empty.

01:11:30.444 --> 01:11:31.707
That was the only one in there.

01:11:31.707 --> 01:11:32.990
There's more in.

01:11:32.990 --> 01:11:38.314
There's no more light there's a drawer let's forget about the drawer.

01:11:40.505 --> 01:11:46.685
Hold on, let me continue you can continue this episode is getting long, it's fine, it'll be edited.

01:11:46.685 --> 01:11:47.167
Okay.

01:11:47.167 --> 01:11:58.765
So they also had skis and poles, they had ice axes, they had extra boots, they had layered clothing, they had food supplies.

01:11:58.944 --> 01:12:01.806
Did their boots have the fur they did?

01:12:01.806 --> 01:12:03.801
Did they wear apple-bottom jeans?

01:12:03.801 --> 01:12:04.042
It?

01:12:04.082 --> 01:12:08.293
was more like boots with the felt, like boots with the felt.

01:12:09.320 --> 01:12:10.686
Boots with the felt.

01:12:11.301 --> 01:12:14.886
Apple-bottom jeans Boots with the felt.

01:12:14.886 --> 01:12:16.329
Oh yeah, I don't know Okay.

01:12:16.329 --> 01:12:24.630
They also had a stove and they used it at campsites, but not when they're just up on the mountain.

01:12:24.630 --> 01:12:27.403
When they're actually camping is when they would use a stove.

01:12:27.403 --> 01:12:29.710
Okay, they all had cameras.

01:12:29.710 --> 01:12:42.824
They also had notebooks, um, as they were documenting, and yuri yudin, the person who had to turn around, because of the sciatica he is quoted as saying there were more than four cameras.

01:12:43.166 --> 01:12:44.228
However, they only.

01:12:44.228 --> 01:12:47.434
They only found two, no Three, no Five.

01:12:50.242 --> 01:12:59.386
He said in two different situations Okay, one time he says there are more than four cameras, the second time he has said there are four cameras.

01:12:59.386 --> 01:13:03.667
That is significant later on.

01:13:03.667 --> 01:13:07.908
Significant, fucking better Either there is more than four, or there are four.

01:13:09.180 --> 01:13:10.711
But maybe he just misremembered.

01:13:10.711 --> 01:13:12.159
It's very possible.

01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:13.506
You misremember shit all the time.

01:13:13.701 --> 01:13:16.087
If I'm the person that fucking turns back.

01:13:16.087 --> 01:13:23.444
And oh true, Seven right Is my math, mathing Is my math, mathing.

01:13:23.621 --> 01:13:25.667
He would be the math person to ask him, not me.

01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:29.264
So there's nine, there's nine yeah he was nine.

01:13:29.506 --> 01:13:30.533
He was ten, wasn't he?

01:13:30.533 --> 01:13:35.260
Oh yeah, okay, so he was ten okay so all my fucking friends die.

01:13:35.804 --> 01:13:37.054
Yeah, I'm gonna remember.

01:13:37.518 --> 01:13:53.470
Every goddamn detail I'm gonna remember everything everybody was wearing, so significant that nothing is gonna be misremembered yeah however, it's a traumatic fucking experience, even with him being removed from it but not yes.

01:13:53.891 --> 01:14:09.880
But since he turned back, he didn't experience what they did no of course not, but I don't know my brain would go through something traumatic like that no, I totally understand what you're saying, all of them, and I remember fucking everything.

01:14:09.939 --> 01:14:18.979
Because, if I remember right and again in the brief one that I listened to, he had a really fucking tough go at this because he survived, probably survivor's guilt, yeah.

01:14:18.979 --> 01:14:24.411
Well, yeah, 100%, and he wants to know what happened to all my friends.

01:14:25.121 --> 01:14:38.311
And this 38-year year old person that joined us yeah, well, also like again, this is a 16 day treacherous fucking journey yeah I'm gonna remember every fucking thing that everybody's carrying.

01:14:38.311 --> 01:14:42.363
That wasn't the shit I'm lugging around, right that's very true.

01:14:42.844 --> 01:14:43.645
You're not wrong.

01:14:43.645 --> 01:14:51.139
It's just, I guess, in traumatic experiences for people, things can get misremembered.

01:14:51.219 --> 01:14:52.585
Absolutely, Is all I'm saying I guess.

01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:55.505
I have no idea what my husband keeps in his truck.

01:14:58.510 --> 01:15:00.493
Okay, I mean it's out there we can go look.

01:15:00.934 --> 01:15:03.222
I know he took my car.

01:15:03.222 --> 01:15:08.373
I won't remember, anyway, that's what Sam said.

01:15:08.373 --> 01:15:09.457
I won't remember, anyway, that's what.

01:15:09.476 --> 01:15:19.340
Sam said I won't remember anyway anyway, she won't anywho the equipment yes, equipment that this group of ten had yeah was solid.

01:15:19.966 --> 01:15:33.106
By Soviet standards, they were well prepared to travel, not like tourists, but by survivalists, essentially how is it by american standards, though?

01:15:33.106 --> 01:15:35.212
Oh, we have no fucking clue.

01:15:35.212 --> 01:15:37.618
We have no fucking clue.

01:15:37.639 --> 01:15:41.467
Sometimes these are dumb questions, I ask I mean it's a fair question.

01:15:41.467 --> 01:15:43.712
I mean how is it for chinese?

01:15:43.712 --> 01:15:55.967
I mean, let's just keep going, continue, please, I have to pee, I have to pee too, pause, pause.

01:15:56.408 --> 01:15:57.471
Pause, but not the end.

01:15:58.300 --> 01:16:01.930
Pause Break over.

01:16:09.384 --> 01:16:10.244
The timeline.

01:16:10.244 --> 01:16:13.234
This is what we're going to get into now.

01:16:14.576 --> 01:16:14.976
Oh dear.

01:16:15.798 --> 01:16:17.242
January 20th Are you ready for this?

01:16:17.242 --> 01:16:18.003
I think so.

01:16:18.003 --> 01:16:20.278
I mean, I think you're more ready than anyone.

01:16:20.990 --> 01:16:22.918
She's like why the fuck aren't we here already?

01:16:25.072 --> 01:16:28.838
I'm not going to go there January 23rd to 24th.

01:16:30.051 --> 01:16:32.806
January 23rd and 24th 1959.

01:16:32.806 --> 01:16:33.189
, yeah.

01:16:33.470 --> 01:16:36.253
The group departs from Sverdlovsk.

01:16:36.795 --> 01:16:37.036
Where.

01:16:39.779 --> 01:16:41.181
I heard you Thank you.

01:16:42.024 --> 01:16:42.664
I'm hard of hearing.

01:16:44.131 --> 01:16:46.960
By train to Serov.

01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:48.978
Okay, so they take a train.

01:16:48.978 --> 01:16:52.390
Serov is basically the end of civilization.

01:16:52.390 --> 01:16:56.555
It is 200 miles north of Sverdlovsk.

01:16:56.555 --> 01:17:00.375
Okay, they spend the after.

01:17:00.375 --> 01:17:06.556
This is not as pertinent as other details, but still pertinent, okay we're just going to breeze through these.

01:17:06.556 --> 01:17:13.438
They spend the afternoon entertaining children at school number 41, because that's how they name their schools up there.

01:17:13.438 --> 01:17:14.815
So it's school number 41.

01:17:14.815 --> 01:17:18.456
In the evening, the hikers Where's school number one?

01:17:18.456 --> 01:17:24.956
In the evening the hikers depart on the train for Ivedale.

01:17:24.956 --> 01:17:28.019
Ivedale, ivedale Iv, ivdel.

01:17:28.038 --> 01:17:28.139
Ivdel.

01:17:28.300 --> 01:17:30.903
Ivdel Ivdel, I don't know Ivdel Ivdel.

01:17:30.903 --> 01:17:34.367
They arrive in Ivdel around midnight.

01:17:34.367 --> 01:17:40.895
The train will take them east of Ivdel to then East.

01:17:40.895 --> 01:17:59.978
From there they hop on a truck to a logging outpost, which took them north, final destination before hitting the wilderness in Vizay Holy fuck, it's the last inhabited settlement in the north.

01:17:59.978 --> 01:18:01.657
Okay, so they're taking multiple trains.

01:18:01.657 --> 01:18:04.658
They're taking a big truck to Vizay.

01:18:04.658 --> 01:18:04.878
What?

01:18:04.899 --> 01:18:05.801
kind of truck was it?

01:18:05.801 --> 01:18:06.734
Was it an F f100?

01:18:07.176 --> 01:18:19.533
bradley, I'm imagining one of those, like you know army like from the like a pickup with, like the wooden barriers and everybody, just like the canvas berries on the side that would like kind of flap in the wind.

01:18:19.634 --> 01:18:24.091
I was thinking more like a world war ii, one where it's like it shifts like a covered wagon.

01:18:24.110 --> 01:18:27.220
yeah, right, yeah, pretty much Everybody hop on.

01:18:27.390 --> 01:18:28.555
It's definitely not a rickshaw.

01:18:29.992 --> 01:18:36.020
Anyway, they took multiple means of transportation to get to the very last settlement that they could.

01:18:36.250 --> 01:18:58.002
I guess for some reason and again I don't know all of this, in my limited exposure to this story I didn't expect them to take that many fucking things to get to where they're going but, I don't know why same same time, like you're about to do this hard, hike right right, right right like you're gonna ride it till the fucking end of the line?

01:18:58.103 --> 01:19:09.179
no for sure, and that's why it's like, for some reason I just didn't put that together where they would have had to take multiple modes of transit they didn't just take a car up to the base of the summit and then we're off.

01:19:09.179 --> 01:19:11.904
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, yeah um.

01:19:11.963 --> 01:19:25.639
So once in vizay they met a forester named ivan rempel and he actually warns the group of don't do it, the winter conditions up there but they're russian.

01:19:25.639 --> 01:19:28.203
I know, but he still advised them not to go.

01:19:28.832 --> 01:19:30.180
They should have heeded his warning.

01:19:31.207 --> 01:19:31.369
Yeah.

01:19:31.369 --> 01:19:33.697
He becomes an important person too.

01:19:34.137 --> 01:19:34.520
Oh, does he.

01:19:35.230 --> 01:19:39.521
So I don't have Rample down much after this.

01:19:39.521 --> 01:19:51.390
We got to argue about it Because I've only heard of one situation where he was brought up a second time, and I did not confirm that later.

01:19:51.390 --> 01:19:57.797
So when you feel like, during our like progression, you speak up.

01:19:58.251 --> 01:19:59.697
You want her to ramble it up.

01:20:04.180 --> 01:20:07.494
She got it don't encourage that face.

01:20:08.537 --> 01:20:09.439
I can't not.

01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:26.381
I feel like I'm a really good mesh of both of the personalities with just like an extra splash of adhd you guys don't really need I think we have our first, our own version of ad depression and anxiety already here.

01:20:26.381 --> 01:20:28.465
We're all just kicking around in here.

01:20:28.465 --> 01:20:33.935
Yeah, definitely, it's a very medicated room, absolutely is Yep, you're not wrong.

01:20:34.195 --> 01:20:39.363
I just got my refilled Okay, so January 25th through 27th.

01:20:39.664 --> 01:20:39.824
Yeah.

01:20:40.451 --> 01:20:47.854
Once in Visay they meet the Forester Rumpel, which Audra will kind of pipe up later what she knows about Rempel.

01:20:47.854 --> 01:20:53.899
I, like I said, have read something about Rempel but it wasn't duplicated in additional research, if that makes sense.

01:20:55.072 --> 01:20:56.279
It doesn't but carry on.

01:20:57.533 --> 01:21:00.001
Okay, he advised not to go on such a trip.

01:21:00.369 --> 01:21:03.399
Yes, he's like don't fucking go, Don't do it.

01:21:03.739 --> 01:21:11.961
He said, quote there are large ravines and pits where one can sink, and winds are so strong that people can be blown away.

01:21:11.961 --> 01:21:12.582
End quote.

01:21:13.243 --> 01:21:14.184
Especially if you had wings.

01:21:14.184 --> 01:21:15.126
That would be terrible.

01:21:16.110 --> 01:21:17.537
Especially where it's real bald.

01:21:19.190 --> 01:21:20.457
Bald and wings.

01:21:25.256 --> 01:21:26.717
What the fuck does that even do I?

01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:28.161
getting another beer.

01:21:28.161 --> 01:21:31.492
I think they start the track from visay.

01:21:31.492 --> 01:21:33.175
Spirits are high.

01:21:33.175 --> 01:21:35.338
They're taking photos of each other.

01:21:35.460 --> 01:21:42.320
They're all laughing, having a guffaw, if you will what kind of what kind of film did they use?

01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:43.182
Was it kodak?

01:21:43.570 --> 01:21:47.082
that wasn't in the research.

01:21:47.082 --> 01:21:48.345
That was not part of my research.

01:21:48.345 --> 01:21:48.827
Of film did they use?

01:21:48.827 --> 01:21:49.087
Was it Kodak?

01:21:49.087 --> 01:21:53.119
That wasn't in the research, that was not part of my research.

01:21:53.480 --> 01:21:56.978
However, they did create a fake newsletter.

01:21:57.770 --> 01:22:00.059
Who doesn't On a fucking hike?

01:22:00.059 --> 01:22:02.936
Seriously, why, why?

01:22:05.635 --> 01:22:25.511
The whole trek up to the, the pass, if you will, yeah, was full of song and singing, like the mandolin players would play and they would all sing songs and they would write this newsletter to like kind of be funny, but extra, extra, exactly they were trying to be funny.

01:22:25.993 --> 01:22:27.939
It's fucking freezing out here.

01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:34.943
These young kids were just out to have a fucking good time this is like a tropical vacation for them.

01:22:35.063 --> 01:22:41.465
Yes, exactly let's bring the fucking mandolin, let's bring the mandolin.

01:22:41.505 --> 01:23:04.079
Let's, let's sing some songs, fuck with nature yes, let's make a song about a fucking chipmunk yeah, whatever, get weird with it, like Elvin yes, elvin, simon, simon and Theodore and Yuri.

01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:09.697
Don't forget Yuri don't forget Yuri that's great.

01:23:10.779 --> 01:23:25.679
Oh, don't forget yuri okay, forget him there's another one or two, it's fine oh balls okay, so they had jokes, they had songs, they had this fake newsletter and it was called the evening or torton.

01:23:25.679 --> 01:23:26.279
Can I?

01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:30.944
ask a question at this point, just blurt it out why?

01:23:31.304 --> 01:23:32.565
why the fuck?

01:23:32.565 --> 01:23:35.372
On this expedition would you bring your mandolins?

01:23:36.496 --> 01:23:49.604
well, for all the reasons we just mentioned, this is like a fun trip, fuck around and find out, apparently you find out, you know, but you just maybe want to soothe yourself and your neighbor at the end of a long hiking day.

01:23:51.793 --> 01:23:56.618
I feel like, alright, let's go with that.

01:23:56.618 --> 01:24:02.217
It just seems weird to me because it seems like unnecessary equipment, absolutely.

01:24:02.217 --> 01:24:03.750
That's, I guess, my point.

01:24:03.829 --> 01:24:16.561
I wouldn't bring my mandolin I actually do get to that being an unnecessary equipment well, I mean, I think I covered it, got it.

01:24:17.262 --> 01:24:20.194
That's like hey, bradley, you want to go for a hike?

01:24:20.314 --> 01:24:30.381
yeah, hold on, let me pack up my drum set and I'll be right there well, I imagine it's like the equivalent of like hey, I'm not gonna bring my purse, but can you put all this shit in your pocket?

01:24:30.421 --> 01:24:34.094
for me yeah exactly, exactly I may do that.

01:24:34.134 --> 01:24:48.081
From time to time I do that occasionally too, but it's just, I don't know, just seems super fucking unnecessary, even for morale purposes, which they clearly did not need, because I mean, at least it wasn't a full-size guitar, it's just a mandolin.

01:24:48.270 --> 01:24:50.867
Yeah, it's just a little wee guy.

01:24:51.310 --> 01:24:52.695
Yeah, just a little wee guy Okay.

01:24:52.695 --> 01:25:00.997
So, because the trains and the trucks weren't enough, they also got into a woodcutter's truck from Vizzei.

01:25:01.217 --> 01:25:02.100
What kind of truck was that?

01:25:02.689 --> 01:25:04.051
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

01:25:04.051 --> 01:25:05.113
Okay, yuri, yuri.

01:25:05.694 --> 01:25:07.677
Yudin, I think she was trying to say Farfugnugan.

01:25:08.099 --> 01:25:09.340
Yuri Yudin, number 10.

01:25:09.340 --> 01:25:10.162
Number 10.

01:25:10.162 --> 01:25:11.283
Yuri Yudin.

01:25:11.302 --> 01:25:12.545
Third year Yuri out, mr Dropout.

01:25:12.689 --> 01:25:14.337
He started to get ill.

01:25:14.337 --> 01:25:16.296
He started to feel really awful.

01:25:16.296 --> 01:25:17.716
His bones were rattling.

01:25:17.716 --> 01:25:18.976
He wanted to push through.

01:25:19.029 --> 01:25:20.472
His bones were rattling.

01:25:21.135 --> 01:25:25.224
We're in this woodcutter's truck and just Bones are rattling.

01:25:25.791 --> 01:25:26.474
I feel like everyone.

01:25:26.474 --> 01:25:27.358
Can you do that again?

01:25:27.358 --> 01:25:30.176
That was perfect.

01:25:30.176 --> 01:25:33.320
That's a short in itself Okay.

01:25:33.421 --> 01:25:35.894
So On repeat With a burp.

01:25:35.894 --> 01:25:37.078
Fuck, yes.

01:25:37.078 --> 01:25:46.519
At the next destination, it was actually an abandoned geological site and Yuri Yudin was a geology major.

01:25:46.519 --> 01:25:57.791
He had an in he wanted all the samples so he pushed through, because he wanted to make it to this one place did they leave samples behind for him to take?

01:25:58.452 --> 01:26:05.684
no so he traveled with them I get that, but I'm just when they got to this old geology place.

01:26:07.171 --> 01:26:12.449
It wasn't like a general store that he stumbled upon in the wilderness.

01:26:12.630 --> 01:26:15.518
It was just a site where he was out there flipping rocks.

01:26:16.609 --> 01:26:20.721
It was a place in the wilderness that he wanted to go collect samples.

01:26:21.671 --> 01:26:23.557
I thought it would have been kind of cool if it was a general store.

01:26:23.791 --> 01:26:25.395
That would have been fucking great for them.

01:26:25.395 --> 01:26:26.779
Do you have any eggets?

01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:28.211
Okay, what so?

01:26:28.350 --> 01:26:35.824
at this point in the trek up the mountain, up the mountain there's still kind of been civilization.

01:26:36.110 --> 01:26:37.457
I mean, it's only 3,000 feet.

01:26:37.590 --> 01:26:42.341
They place all their backpacks and their gear inside a horse-drawn sleigh.

01:26:43.652 --> 01:26:43.792
Was.

01:26:43.814 --> 01:26:44.337
Santa on.

01:26:44.337 --> 01:26:44.559
There.

01:26:45.265 --> 01:26:45.890
Wait, no, it's reindeer.

01:26:45.890 --> 01:26:46.493
Fuck on sleigh, was Santa on?

01:26:46.514 --> 01:26:56.096
there, and then they cross country ski for 15 miles on top of a river.

01:26:56.618 --> 01:26:57.259
It was frozen.

01:26:58.921 --> 01:26:59.564
More or less.

01:26:59.564 --> 01:27:00.996
I mean it's negative.

01:27:02.171 --> 01:27:06.612
Yeah, but if it's got moving water it won't fully freeze.

01:27:06.932 --> 01:27:17.060
My sources say that it was not entirely frozen, so every once in a while they had to get off the river, but then they would get back on and it was more of a straight shot, as what?

01:27:17.462 --> 01:27:19.369
they were needing because not to jump the gun again.

01:27:19.369 --> 01:27:26.121
That's one of the theories of why some of the party ended up where they did, because it was a moving river yeah, yes, so I mean, it was a moving river.

01:27:26.121 --> 01:27:31.298
So I mean it's a valid fucking question, it is but this is a different river.

01:27:32.010 --> 01:27:35.609
There's two different rivers the one that they skied, on.

01:27:35.649 --> 01:27:37.838
You're saying there's more than one river in this world.

01:27:37.838 --> 01:27:40.135
Holy shit.

01:27:41.112 --> 01:27:45.375
Not even in this world, on the mountain, on the mountain, was it Spring, fed or Tort?

01:27:45.395 --> 01:27:46.478
mountain, was it spring fed?

01:27:46.478 --> 01:27:48.805
Or torten, was it spring fed?

01:27:49.386 --> 01:27:49.827
Bradley.

01:27:51.291 --> 01:27:52.033
This is what I do.

01:27:52.414 --> 01:28:01.021
Okay, moving on, in the morning on January 28th, yuri Yudin decides he cannot.

01:28:01.021 --> 01:28:05.359
Carry on, carry on, yeah, and he decides that he needs a turn back.

01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:07.591
But he's got to collect his fucking samples.

01:28:07.591 --> 01:28:09.194
Okay, who the fuck doesn't?

01:28:09.194 --> 01:28:10.478
But?

01:28:10.557 --> 01:28:15.194
if I make it that far, I'm I'm gonna collect some fucking samples.

01:28:15.255 --> 01:28:23.460
I totally understand that, but can you imagine going through the train ride the truck rides the the fairly fucking no sleigh ride with the horses and all that.

01:28:23.460 --> 01:28:25.492
They're like fuck, I can't go any further.

01:28:25.492 --> 01:28:27.658
It's like, dude, you're already fucking here.

01:28:27.658 --> 01:28:30.480
I mean I get it, though his body's hurting.

01:28:30.480 --> 01:28:40.774
I understand, but damn, that's gotta be pretty heartbreaking for him at the time but this is the weird, thing, funny thing the weird, thing, the ironic thing.

01:28:42.074 --> 01:28:44.279
So he decides he can't continue.

01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:49.819
He collects his samples and they still have that sleigh and the horse-drawn carriage kind of thing.

01:28:49.939 --> 01:28:50.862
So who was driving that?

01:28:51.202 --> 01:28:51.804
Fuck, if I know.

01:28:52.109 --> 01:28:53.195
I thought it was like a reindeer.

01:28:53.195 --> 01:28:58.300
But what happens is Yuri Yunin puts his pack on the sleigh.

01:28:58.300 --> 01:28:59.403
And it just takes off.

01:28:59.590 --> 01:29:02.359
But he cannot also get on the sleigh.

01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:02.659
Why?

01:29:02.659 --> 01:29:05.197
Because they're on the fucking river and it would sink.

01:29:05.197 --> 01:29:20.219
It would sink, sink in so he literally walked or skied alongside the horse with his pack on the down the river so he can't even get on this effing sleigh.

01:29:20.219 --> 01:29:23.288
He's literally skiing back down the mountain.

01:29:23.349 --> 01:29:30.293
He can't even get on, but at least the end is in sight, right, like you know, the suffering is coming to an end as soon as you like.

01:29:30.675 --> 01:29:35.257
get the fuck down there, or he knew something, and he was the guy who planned all this.

01:29:36.273 --> 01:29:40.574
No, I'm kidding, that has never been a theory, I'm fucking kidding.

01:29:40.836 --> 01:29:43.078
No, but I see what you're saying, audra.

01:29:43.078 --> 01:29:45.054
It's like it sucks.

01:29:45.054 --> 01:29:50.203
It sucks but he knows he's like okay, I'm getting back for some relief kind of thing.

01:29:50.243 --> 01:29:58.152
Yeah, for sure, so there are a couple photos of Yuri Yudin saying goodbye, because wasn't one of them.

01:29:59.114 --> 01:30:00.578
One of them was hugging, he was hugging.

01:30:00.939 --> 01:30:01.360
Exactly.

01:30:01.360 --> 01:30:04.613
Yeah, there's a picture of Yuri Yudin hugging.

01:30:04.613 --> 01:30:14.985
I think it was Ludmila Dubinina, and then Igor Dyatlov is in the back of the photo.

01:30:15.430 --> 01:30:17.398
That's right and we'll put that on our social media.

01:30:17.398 --> 01:30:22.461
Or, like she likes to say, I'm going to insert a picture here.

01:30:22.590 --> 01:30:25.238
I'm going to insert a picture here for our YouTube followers.

01:30:26.112 --> 01:30:27.355
Which you won't, I will do that.

01:30:27.396 --> 01:30:28.118
You won't do that.

01:30:28.118 --> 01:30:30.976
So, everyone waves goodbye.

01:30:30.976 --> 01:30:33.738
So long Farewell.

01:30:34.270 --> 01:30:37.814
I'll be there to say goodnight, Alright let's stop that.

01:30:37.975 --> 01:30:41.235
I'll do it Seriously stop.

01:30:41.235 --> 01:30:44.931
Try the gray stuff.

01:30:44.931 --> 01:30:45.612
It's delicious.

01:30:45.612 --> 01:30:49.077
Don't believe me.

01:30:56.917 --> 01:31:00.514
Ask the dishes Jesus Christ.

01:31:00.514 --> 01:31:05.182
Yep room full of ADHDers here Don't you want to be here every time.

01:31:05.182 --> 01:31:07.900
Yes, yes, can you put me in rotation?

01:31:08.831 --> 01:31:10.578
I'm here for this 100%.

01:31:13.176 --> 01:31:13.939
Okay so.

01:31:13.958 --> 01:31:15.974
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, over the next two days.

01:31:16.095 --> 01:31:17.378
they do make some headway.

01:31:17.378 --> 01:31:18.721
They camp overnight.

01:31:18.721 --> 01:31:25.556
Their progress becomes a little bit easier when they happened upon a path already made by skis.

01:31:25.556 --> 01:31:26.953
Ooh who is it?

01:31:26.953 --> 01:31:28.537
Fromis and reindeer hooves.

01:31:29.820 --> 01:31:30.101
Really.

01:31:30.550 --> 01:31:33.740
It is the Mansea hunters, the indigenous people.

01:31:33.740 --> 01:31:35.597
They have created pathways.

01:31:36.650 --> 01:31:37.774
So they had skis too?

01:31:37.774 --> 01:31:39.440
Yes, holy shit.

01:31:39.440 --> 01:31:41.194
Oh yeah, they've been out there for a minute.

01:31:41.194 --> 01:31:41.536
Yes, yeah.

01:31:42.893 --> 01:31:43.917
They know a thing or two.

01:31:43.917 --> 01:31:47.097
Yeah, they know a thing or two about mountains and snow.

01:31:47.219 --> 01:31:49.164
Not three things, just two.

01:31:49.766 --> 01:31:50.489
That's what I would do.

01:31:50.489 --> 01:31:52.145
Just mountains and snow.

01:31:52.166 --> 01:31:52.510
And reindeer.

01:31:53.331 --> 01:31:54.175
Yeah, mountains and snow.

01:31:54.395 --> 01:31:55.057
But they know reindeer.

01:31:55.871 --> 01:32:00.922
And there were also mansy symbols on trees along their routes.

01:32:00.922 --> 01:32:09.689
So some would say like one would be like three slashes saying how many man-sea hunters were there.

01:32:09.689 --> 01:32:15.902
Okay, one would be three slashes to the east-west on the bark.

01:32:15.962 --> 01:32:16.182
Right.

01:32:16.270 --> 01:32:18.478
That would mean like how many dogs they're with.

01:32:18.478 --> 01:32:22.639
So I mean it sounds a little bit.

01:32:22.639 --> 01:32:23.707
What kind of dogs do they have?

01:32:23.929 --> 01:32:28.555
It sounds a little bit what kind of dogs do they have In the evenings?

01:32:30.112 --> 01:32:32.416
each member of the group has his or her own task.

01:32:32.510 --> 01:32:33.997
I'm looking at Sam to do research.

01:32:33.997 --> 01:32:39.979
What kind of dogs did the Manse tribe have?

01:32:39.979 --> 01:32:41.155
This is important.

01:32:43.250 --> 01:32:44.756
Inquiring minds want to know.

01:32:45.010 --> 01:32:46.417
I do know that they have reindeer.

01:32:47.692 --> 01:32:48.988
They do have reindeer, that seems too.

01:32:49.430 --> 01:32:50.737
They do have reindeer.

01:32:50.737 --> 01:32:57.478
Also on the mountain are foxes and wolves, potentially bears, but they should be hibernating.

01:32:57.478 --> 01:32:58.912
Did you hear they brought back?

01:32:58.972 --> 01:32:59.534
direwolves.

01:33:01.260 --> 01:33:04.359
Yeah, in fucking Game of Thrones.

01:33:06.131 --> 01:33:07.717
Did you hear they brought back direwolves.

01:33:08.411 --> 01:33:09.475
Based on a true story.

01:33:09.496 --> 01:33:17.363
yeah, yeah, they actually sequenced their genomes and all that DNA and everything.

01:33:17.564 --> 01:33:19.088
Oh, okay, I understand what you're saying.

01:33:19.109 --> 01:33:20.795
Now, the funny thing is one of them's named Khaleesi.

01:33:20.795 --> 01:33:32.855
Of course it is, and the two males are called Remus and Romulus, so which is pretty fucking great, yeah, but yeah, they actually brought back direwolves.

01:33:33.717 --> 01:33:34.158
That's cool.

01:33:34.458 --> 01:33:35.261
It's fucking awesome.

01:33:35.922 --> 01:33:42.840
Sam West Siberian Laka, also known as the Mansi Laka.

01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:43.882
L-a-i-k-a.

01:33:44.109 --> 01:33:45.195
They have their own dogs.

01:33:45.195 --> 01:33:45.759
That's pretty impressive.

01:33:45.759 --> 01:33:46.079
That's cool.

01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:46.682
You've got to be something.

01:33:46.682 --> 01:33:47.949
To have their own dogs, that's pretty impressive, that's cool.

01:33:48.109 --> 01:33:49.590
You gotta be something to have your own dogs.

01:33:49.649 --> 01:33:55.001
It's gotta be some kind of local wild animal that they've tamed?

01:33:55.001 --> 01:33:55.922
Oh for sure.

01:33:56.670 --> 01:34:00.020
You are gonna mate with you Go.

01:34:01.891 --> 01:34:03.197
I mean, I did that with Jasper.

01:34:03.197 --> 01:34:04.855
I thought she was pointing at me.

01:34:05.610 --> 01:34:08.033
And I'm like generally you, I don't understand who.

01:34:08.114 --> 01:34:09.158
I'm meeting with right now.

01:34:10.030 --> 01:34:11.095
You're pointing to a wall.

01:34:11.095 --> 01:34:13.354
I'm confused Me and the wall.

01:34:13.354 --> 01:34:16.520
I don't know how this is going to happen, but cheers to that.

01:34:17.510 --> 01:34:24.228
Okay, so in the evenings, each member of the hiking group has his or her own assigned tasks.

01:34:24.630 --> 01:34:24.729
Right.

01:34:25.030 --> 01:34:36.072
Setting up camp and setting up the stove for dinner right which, again, I said earlier, that they only use the stove when they're actually camped.

01:34:36.072 --> 01:34:38.859
They don't use it along the hike right?

01:34:38.859 --> 01:34:52.564
No, for sure so when, when they started to become sleepy, they actually would argue about who would have to sleep next to the stove because it would get so hot.

01:34:53.030 --> 01:34:55.498
Wouldn't that be a good thing in negative 40 degree weather?

01:34:55.670 --> 01:35:02.681
Yes, but it would get so hot You're sweating I would imagine the temperature difference would be blazing hot.

01:35:03.932 --> 01:35:05.217
No, you're not wrong, that's true.

01:35:05.569 --> 01:35:10.177
So they would literally argue about who would have to sleep closest to the stove it would not be me.

01:35:10.804 --> 01:35:12.393
I know the person with the cleanest feet.

01:35:12.935 --> 01:35:20.654
Hey, that's the winner, igor's like let me clean your feet, get in between the toes, I'm pretty sure that Igor did not clean feet.

01:35:20.716 --> 01:35:22.252
They cleaned their own feet.

01:35:22.515 --> 01:35:24.192
But he checked them for accuracy.

01:35:24.192 --> 01:35:25.916
He probably could.

01:35:26.275 --> 01:35:27.118
He watched.

01:35:27.899 --> 01:35:28.721
You missed a toe.

01:35:31.449 --> 01:35:32.594
He watched the washing.

01:35:33.555 --> 01:35:35.502
He watched the washing.

01:35:36.264 --> 01:35:37.266
He watched the washing.

01:35:37.287 --> 01:35:38.050
He watched the washing.

01:35:38.050 --> 01:35:40.297
He's like get that pinky toe.

01:35:43.112 --> 01:35:44.337
I lost my pinky toe.

01:35:45.069 --> 01:35:45.413
My pinky toe nail.

01:35:45.413 --> 01:35:46.204
I lost my pinky toe nail, lost the nail.

01:35:46.204 --> 01:35:46.569
My pinky toe nail.

01:35:46.569 --> 01:35:47.750
I lost my pinky toe.

01:35:47.750 --> 01:35:49.377
It's cause you kick shit when you're mad.

01:35:50.037 --> 01:35:52.094
I didn't kick shit, I ran into shit.

01:35:52.094 --> 01:35:54.689
That too, that is different, okay.

01:35:55.533 --> 01:35:57.219
I was fucking joking, don't clap at me.

01:35:57.591 --> 01:35:58.953
January 31st.

01:35:58.953 --> 01:36:01.841
We're gonna move on From this Got it so many years ago.

01:36:01.841 --> 01:36:03.466
January 31st.

01:36:03.487 --> 01:36:03.649
Yeah.

01:36:04.311 --> 01:36:05.979
The final camp setup.

01:36:05.979 --> 01:36:08.279
Thank you, sam.

01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:10.470
Years ago, january 31st, yeah, the final camp set up.

01:36:10.470 --> 01:36:12.079
Thank you, sam man.

01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:13.572
She was the least ADHD person in here.

01:36:14.034 --> 01:36:15.551
It's the final camp.

01:36:15.551 --> 01:36:16.895
There she is Okay.

01:36:19.270 --> 01:36:20.094
Oh wait Sorry.

01:36:20.395 --> 01:36:21.559
January 31st.

01:36:21.649 --> 01:36:21.850
Yeah.

01:36:22.032 --> 01:36:33.802
Igor noted that the group set out at 10 am and that the weather had immediately worsened, with an aggressive wind blowing in from the west Is that significant.

01:36:33.802 --> 01:36:36.293
The sky was clear.

01:36:36.293 --> 01:36:39.421
Windy it was fucking windy.

01:36:39.421 --> 01:36:41.096
Well, yeah, yeah, I got that.

01:36:41.096 --> 01:36:43.936
The sky was clear, yet it was snowing.

01:36:43.936 --> 01:36:44.257
What the what?

01:36:44.257 --> 01:36:45.603
How is it clear, yet it was snowing.

01:36:46.284 --> 01:36:46.827
What, the what.

01:36:48.492 --> 01:36:48.753
How is?

01:36:48.833 --> 01:36:49.719
it clear if it's snowing.

01:36:50.289 --> 01:36:51.572
As Igor noted.

01:36:51.572 --> 01:37:02.203
Quote the precipitation was most likely an illusion caused by wind, sweeping snow from the treetops.

01:37:02.203 --> 01:37:12.676
Oh sure, I suppose, yeah, yes, yes, you just had to stop and listen the hockey Excuse me Maybe if you just, I don't know, fucking talk normal.

01:37:12.676 --> 01:37:16.154
Wow, I talk normal all the time.

01:37:16.173 --> 01:37:17.418
This is getting hostile.

01:37:17.789 --> 01:37:19.283
I talk normal all the time.

01:37:20.051 --> 01:37:21.417
It's getting fucking hostile.

01:37:21.417 --> 01:37:25.136
That's a great song by Pantera, in case anyone's curious.

01:37:25.609 --> 01:37:28.377
Now I just I can only think of the final countdown.

01:37:28.377 --> 01:37:30.240
I know it's in my head now.

01:37:30.903 --> 01:37:35.939
Samantha, the hiking track is barely visible.

01:37:36.582 --> 01:37:36.761
Okay.

01:37:37.171 --> 01:37:49.195
They lose it often, they walk blindly and they cover only 1.5 to 2 kilometers per hour.

01:37:50.219 --> 01:37:53.458
Not very much, that's about as fast as I think I'd hike yeah.

01:37:54.694 --> 01:37:56.341
On an open, clear day.

01:37:57.287 --> 01:37:57.949
Open clear day.

01:37:57.949 --> 01:38:00.757
I mean, depends on how much shit I'm carrying.

01:38:02.121 --> 01:38:04.157
True I know, what shit you'd be carrying.

01:38:04.832 --> 01:38:13.307
And how many times you have to clean your feet my, ass is what I would be carrying very fucking slowly, especially if it's negative.

01:38:13.347 --> 01:38:22.229
30 okay of the wind of the wind blowing in their faces.

01:38:22.511 --> 01:38:32.435
Igor Dyatlov wrote quote the wind is warm and piercing, Blows fast like air when a plane takes off.

01:38:32.435 --> 01:38:33.359
End quote.

01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:37.595
That's a lot of air and it's warm.

01:38:37.595 --> 01:38:39.336
Air, air, air, uh-oh.

01:38:39.336 --> 01:38:45.476
They reach the base of the mountain and prepare for their climb.

01:38:45.476 --> 01:38:47.818
They're not even fucking at the base.

01:38:48.510 --> 01:38:50.012
Base, how low can you go?

01:38:51.457 --> 01:38:59.037
Okay, Okay, we had a working lunch earlier today.

01:38:59.037 --> 01:39:03.319
Maybe we might have listened to Nelly Hot Grammar.

01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:11.698
Oh okay, no Country Grammar, hot Grammar, I'm thinking of hot shit but we listened to nelly country grammar on the way there.

01:39:11.698 --> 01:39:14.243
Yeah, anyway, okay we're working lunch.

01:39:14.350 --> 01:39:19.110
Yeah, okay, so they no beers were consumed, so they're they're at the base of this mountain right.

01:39:19.712 --> 01:39:26.744
They end up stashing their excess gear in a forest, on a platform that they have to build.

01:39:26.744 --> 01:39:33.073
It's called a labaz L-A-B-A-Z Z, l-a-b-a-z, ha ha ha.

01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:38.818
One more time, try it again.

01:39:39.471 --> 01:39:40.034
L-A-B-A-Z Z.

01:39:42.796 --> 01:40:08.842
So this labaz was actually found later, intact, intact, and it was completely solid ice no it was just like it was the perfect labazz like so if you were trying to make a labazz, this is what you want to make correct oh it was on point textbook labazz.

01:40:09.484 --> 01:40:11.273
Thank you, thank you.

01:40:11.332 --> 01:40:15.421
Textbook labazz who doesn't want a textbook labazz?

01:40:15.542 --> 01:40:22.157
I'm gonna fucking write that down textbook labazz oh maybe that's our episode title textbook labazz.

01:40:22.157 --> 01:40:28.725
So they dug a snow pit, put their items down there.

01:40:28.905 --> 01:40:31.756
Yeah, they LaBazzed all over it.

01:40:33.390 --> 01:40:38.342
They covered the hole which I spelled W-H-O-L-E.

01:40:38.970 --> 01:40:40.618
You're making this sound filthy.

01:40:44.851 --> 01:40:45.735
What is wrong with you?

01:40:45.735 --> 01:40:49.404
What is wrong with you?

01:40:49.404 --> 01:40:51.988
They covered the hole with logs.

01:40:51.988 --> 01:40:55.421
How do you spell logs?

01:40:55.421 --> 01:40:58.314
They left a marker, to find it later.

01:40:58.314 --> 01:41:01.502
So I believe that the marker was actually like an extra ski.

01:41:03.930 --> 01:41:07.845
So I know we're going to talk more about ski poles right?

01:41:07.845 --> 01:41:12.095
Yes, I hope so so ski poles become important?

01:41:12.095 --> 01:41:16.570
Well, we are with audrey here so I'm going to make sure to bring it up samantha.

01:41:16.610 --> 01:41:23.600
I need more beer wow, ask nicely please so I need another white Russian.

01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:35.643
There's a point that we'll get to that I'll circle back to, but at a certain point there is a broken ski pole that is found Right.

01:41:36.104 --> 01:41:36.385
Okay.

01:41:36.710 --> 01:41:44.823
They usually come in pairs Typically, so if one ski pole is on the LaBaz, ski pole is on the labazz.

01:41:44.823 --> 01:41:54.694
Yeah, someone that's still on this journey is operating with one ski pole, or they had an extra set.

01:41:54.694 --> 01:41:55.698
They did.

01:41:55.698 --> 01:41:57.055
Yeah, you're right, probably.

01:41:57.750 --> 01:41:59.356
I mean, I guess that makes sense.

01:41:59.449 --> 01:42:03.250
That would make more sense, because they're so experienced, they know that they would need.

01:42:03.289 --> 01:42:04.475
Someone's going to break one.

01:42:05.695 --> 01:42:10.981
Well, yeah, it's very probable, just with the more difficult terrain kind of setup.

01:42:11.243 --> 01:42:14.851
So I get that so I read about this broken ski pole.

01:42:14.851 --> 01:42:23.194
I don't know if I inserted it, so if you find the area that you're like, I need to talk about this broken ski pole, by all means bring it for sure.

01:42:23.194 --> 01:42:29.645
Okay, so they left this stuff behind as they needed to carry more light-like items up the mountain.

01:42:29.645 --> 01:42:35.759
Okay, and then when they come back down, they're going to have all these supplies reserved for them Extras.

01:42:35.798 --> 01:42:36.280
Preserved.

01:42:36.280 --> 01:42:39.408
On the LaBaz Preserved Same thing.

01:42:39.828 --> 01:42:50.613
Yes, I mean typically yeah, yes, rawr, Good job, it's too far down.

01:42:50.613 --> 01:42:52.137
You need to fix your microphone.

01:42:52.297 --> 01:42:52.578
It's fine.

01:42:52.599 --> 01:42:53.381
It's fine, no it's not.

01:42:53.381 --> 01:42:55.998
Do you need something from the kitchen?

01:42:55.998 --> 01:42:58.350
Yes, yes, please, sorry.

01:42:58.810 --> 01:43:01.318
I was trying to make Kate fix her microphone.

01:43:01.518 --> 01:43:02.239
Sorry about the microphone.

01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:04.376
It's all right, it's only a problem for me.

01:43:04.596 --> 01:43:06.733
So we're almost done.

01:43:06.733 --> 01:43:09.820
We're almost done, are we With this episode?

01:43:10.362 --> 01:43:10.481
Oh.

01:43:12.150 --> 01:43:13.957
Oh look, how nice you have water.

01:43:13.957 --> 01:43:17.354
I do how nice, I believe.

01:43:17.375 --> 01:43:17.655
I can drive.

01:43:17.789 --> 01:43:26.636
I haven't drank any today so Same, I'm just going to keep she beer is Kind of makes me every so often she kind of makes me every so often Beer is 90% water, so I don't fucking drink.

01:43:26.636 --> 01:43:30.663
Fuck, if I know, probably next to my bed from last night hey hey hey, hey.

01:43:34.277 --> 01:43:35.360
To be fair, that's where mine was.

01:43:35.360 --> 01:43:42.740
It's a family program.

01:43:42.841 --> 01:43:45.045
It's hot in my mouth because of all the bubbles.

01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:47.729
All the bubbles Okay.

01:43:49.802 --> 01:43:50.909
We're almost done with this segment.

01:43:50.909 --> 01:43:53.998
February 1st.

01:43:55.537 --> 01:43:56.449
We've made it to February.

01:43:56.954 --> 01:44:06.858
They started hiking Accidentally In more of a westward direction when they wanted to go North and over a pass.

01:44:06.858 --> 01:44:15.320
Okay, they began ascending but were delayed by bad weather and they lost visibility did they ever fight it?

01:44:16.644 --> 01:44:25.060
I'm gonna guess no they lost based on the ending of this story, I'm gonna say no, say no, hard pass.

01:44:25.140 --> 01:44:38.756
They realized their mistake, so they backtracked a little bit Instead of returning to the forest for shelter, downhill about a mile away which is actually kind of far.

01:44:39.770 --> 01:44:45.132
If you're hiking and skiing in the middle of winter, it's literally over 5,200 feet.

01:44:45.372 --> 01:44:50.762
Yeah, they decided to set up a camp on the slope of the mountain, completely exposed.

01:44:50.762 --> 01:44:52.126
It's literally over 5,200 feet.

01:44:52.145 --> 01:44:52.326
Yeah, yeah.

01:44:52.326 --> 01:44:54.310
So they decided to set up a camp on the slope of the mountain completely exposed.

01:44:55.369 --> 01:44:56.131
And this is where they did their shift.

01:44:56.131 --> 01:45:09.493
So possibly they wanted to stick to their planned schedule and didn't want to lose altitude, right, but it does take several hours to build this camp and once they do they could have started washing their feet.

01:45:09.613 --> 01:45:12.289
We don't know almost that time get them clean.

01:45:12.289 --> 01:45:13.510
They eat their dinner.

01:45:13.510 --> 01:45:17.789
I expect them dirtless potentially.

01:45:18.394 --> 01:45:20.710
We do not know, but potentially.

01:45:20.710 --> 01:45:28.115
Sasha and Nikolai went outside to pee.

01:45:28.115 --> 01:45:31.975
Oh sure, dressed fairly well.

01:45:31.994 --> 01:45:34.081
Okay, fairly well.

01:45:34.529 --> 01:45:38.315
And this was the last time that they were known to be alive Literally fairly well.

01:45:40.369 --> 01:45:43.597
So they never.

01:45:43.597 --> 01:45:45.122
They weren't part of the people.

01:45:45.122 --> 01:45:46.916
That all right, I don't want to jump the gun.

01:45:46.916 --> 01:45:57.088
That's the last time the rest of the group saw those two that was the last time that anyone knew anything well, we don't know anything.

01:45:57.088 --> 01:46:01.978
Nobody knows anything, no one's alive to be like yep.

01:46:01.978 --> 01:46:09.976
That's where they left nobody knows anything so we can literally start making shit up now yes, but we won't because there's still evidence.

01:46:10.356 --> 01:46:19.594
Well, but is it evidence or has it been tampered with to look like evidence?

01:46:20.114 --> 01:46:35.247
by the aliens there are facts of things being seen, okay, but whether or not we know that they were planted or a part of the actual scene, we do not know, we do not know, we do not know.

01:46:35.266 --> 01:46:35.887
This is my jam.

01:46:35.887 --> 01:46:38.796
Yeah, this is where you really shine.

01:46:38.896 --> 01:46:39.679
I nerd out here.

01:46:40.271 --> 01:46:40.835
I nerd out here.

01:46:41.329 --> 01:46:44.059
So, before we get too far, we are going to take a break.

01:46:44.059 --> 01:46:46.395
Yes, because I got to pee.

01:46:46.395 --> 01:46:52.034
And then what happens?

01:46:52.034 --> 01:46:53.158
Because I don't remember.

01:46:53.158 --> 01:47:00.695
Hey guys, we're going to make this into a two-parter.

01:47:02.440 --> 01:47:02.640
Yeah.

01:47:03.271 --> 01:47:04.829
Because it's such a big.

01:47:04.850 --> 01:47:06.180
There's just so much information.

01:47:06.180 --> 01:47:07.329
There's so much information.

01:47:07.329 --> 01:47:14.729
We're going to make this a two parter so we don't want to skimp on it and just gloss over, like the episode I listened to earlier today.

01:47:14.729 --> 01:47:19.012
And again, I know that was their intent and I'm not like shitting on them.

01:47:19.012 --> 01:47:24.538
It's fine, but we are going a little more in depth so we're going to make this a two parter.

01:47:25.988 --> 01:47:29.912
So how did you feel about your white russian?

01:47:29.912 --> 01:47:34.261
I, I was 70, even though I was the one talking the most.

01:47:34.261 --> 01:47:41.369
It just doesn't happen it doesn't typically happen if I'm the one talking with a beverage, I don't really finish my beverage.

01:47:41.369 --> 01:47:42.872
I've finished many a beverage.

01:47:42.872 --> 01:47:44.877
It's fine, I've finished many.

01:47:45.377 --> 01:47:45.920
I enjoyed it.

01:47:46.461 --> 01:47:49.194
I did too, despite how oh, there's some left.

01:47:49.336 --> 01:47:49.676
Oh my god.

01:47:51.043 --> 01:47:51.529
That's gotta be watery.

01:47:51.569 --> 01:47:55.797
I'm gonna have one for part two as well Watery heavy cream.

01:47:57.073 --> 01:47:57.655
Yeah, I know.

01:47:58.216 --> 01:48:00.414
Um no Creamy dairy treat.

01:48:00.414 --> 01:48:05.855
Despite mine being like heavy vodka, which I'm not gonna do the second time around.

01:48:05.876 --> 01:48:06.556
It really wasn't.

01:48:06.677 --> 01:48:07.139
Mine was.

01:48:07.479 --> 01:48:07.720
No.

01:48:07.900 --> 01:48:08.643
To my opinion.

01:48:08.850 --> 01:48:09.795
It was the same as mine.

01:48:10.149 --> 01:48:11.564
My opinion is the jazz trumpet.

01:48:11.586 --> 01:48:11.970
What did you think?

01:48:12.869 --> 01:48:15.055
Well, I don't like vodka.

01:48:15.076 --> 01:48:16.780
Okay who asked you.

01:48:17.752 --> 01:48:19.837
I'm just going to stick to beer after this.

01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:21.542
Thank God.

01:48:22.130 --> 01:48:24.195
Liquor before beer In the clear.

01:48:24.195 --> 01:48:25.338
In the clear, absolutely.

01:48:25.338 --> 01:48:29.149
Beer before liquor You've never been sicker, never been sicker yeah Fuck we had beers out of here.

01:48:29.229 --> 01:48:31.576
That makes me feel like I'm in my early 20s.

01:48:32.198 --> 01:48:35.154
I know, yeah, yeah 21, 23.

01:48:35.435 --> 01:48:36.418
Yeah, mm-hmm.

01:48:36.949 --> 01:48:42.257
Anyways, when we had to say that saying all the time be like okay, 19.

01:48:42.257 --> 01:48:46.704
I was a pretty good alcoholic kid.

01:48:46.704 --> 01:48:47.204
Yeah, me too.

01:48:47.204 --> 01:48:50.072
I didn't drink until I was.

01:48:50.072 --> 01:48:52.359
I think I had my first drink at 20.

01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:58.515
And then I didn't actually have a good time with alcohol A good time.

01:48:59.270 --> 01:49:01.457
There was all shitty times prior to this.

01:49:01.909 --> 01:49:02.935
No, I was pretty good.

01:49:02.935 --> 01:49:05.958
I think I just had like one, maybe two circumstances with alcohol when I was 20.

01:49:05.958 --> 01:49:10.010
I think I just had like one, maybe two circumstances with alcohol when I was 20, otherwise it was 21.

01:49:10.873 --> 01:49:13.750
I really enjoyed drinking before I was 21.

01:49:13.750 --> 01:49:19.898
I think being of age really sucked a lot of fun out of it sure, because it's like well, I can do this whenever.

01:49:19.898 --> 01:49:22.907
I probably drank more.

01:49:22.966 --> 01:49:26.336
Miller Lite when I was 7 years old than I have in the rest of my life.

01:49:26.336 --> 01:49:28.649
So I think I had my Miller Lite when I was seven years old than I have in the rest of my life, jesus Christ.

01:49:28.670 --> 01:49:34.207
So I think I had my first drink when I was 14.

01:49:34.207 --> 01:49:36.636
Yeah yeah, that's when I started drinking too.

01:49:36.636 --> 01:49:41.502
Only we were stealing Kessler's out of my friend's parents' basement.

01:49:41.502 --> 01:49:44.939
Because you know it's Wisconsin, so everybody has a basement bar.

01:49:45.430 --> 01:49:46.712
Oh, 100%, duh.

01:49:46.712 --> 01:49:49.961
My dad um liked his beer.

01:49:49.961 --> 01:49:50.622
Um.

01:49:50.622 --> 01:49:57.021
I was a young child and be like hey dad need another beer.

01:49:57.021 --> 01:50:02.341
He's like yeah, so I go get him another beer, one for me, one for you well, not that, not quite like that, but it would be.

01:50:02.341 --> 01:50:04.432
Then, hey dad, can I have a sip of your beer?

01:50:04.432 --> 01:50:06.176
Sure, sure.

01:50:06.256 --> 01:50:15.981
And so I just go get him more beers and get him more sips of beer, and I literally probably drank more Miller Lite when I was seven years old than I have the rest of my life.

01:50:16.891 --> 01:50:18.444
Yeah, because he doesn't like Miller Lite.

01:50:19.150 --> 01:50:20.054
I don't like Miller Lite.

01:50:20.054 --> 01:50:23.809
It's fucking terrible, but either way it's better than Bush.

01:50:24.451 --> 01:50:34.813
Well, it's better than Budweiser, really any of the quote, unquote staples that most people would say he doesn't like no bud light, bush light, miller light any of the lights.

01:50:35.012 --> 01:50:40.351
I don't, I don't trust you if you haven't had like a dirty 30 of bush light it's a fucking dirty.

01:50:40.391 --> 01:50:42.716
So like it's a 30 pack.

01:50:42.716 --> 01:50:43.637
Yeah, so here.

01:50:43.637 --> 01:50:44.500
Here's the thing I bet.

01:50:44.539 --> 01:50:47.104
I could have guessed that, but I just wanted you to tell me.

01:50:48.213 --> 01:50:48.976
No, she did not know.

01:50:48.976 --> 01:50:57.922
So to give you some context for that, I've sold Miller products most of my life.

01:50:57.922 --> 01:51:02.756
Okay, and Bush is a Budweiser product and fuck Budweiser Fair.

01:51:02.756 --> 01:51:05.958
So that's why I've never had a dirty 30.

01:51:05.958 --> 01:51:08.377
Or a 30-rack, sometimes people call them.

01:51:08.377 --> 01:51:10.996
I have drank in shitty high life.

01:51:11.978 --> 01:51:12.559
Keystone.

01:51:13.521 --> 01:51:13.702
Yeah.

01:51:14.029 --> 01:51:16.056
You get like thirstier as you're drinking it.

01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:21.690
Yeah, 100 fucking percent Sarah's.

01:51:21.690 --> 01:51:25.159
She had some people in her life at one point that drank.

01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:25.822
What was it?

01:51:25.822 --> 01:51:26.872
I think Keystone Ice.

01:51:27.375 --> 01:51:28.438
Oh Ice, if I'm not mistaken.

01:51:28.497 --> 01:51:29.079
I could be wrong.

01:51:29.079 --> 01:51:34.916
But yeah, no, fuck that I just like Keystone because it's from Colorado.

01:51:34.916 --> 01:51:36.761
Sure, because I've been to Keystone.

01:51:37.711 --> 01:51:42.239
So once I moved up to Wisconsin, I was all about Spotted Cow.

01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:44.083
New Glarus, spotted Cow.

01:51:44.329 --> 01:51:45.957
New Glarus, but yes, yeah.

01:51:45.957 --> 01:51:48.141
Glarus, new Glarus.

01:51:48.141 --> 01:51:48.913
I bought a cow, new Glarus, but yes, yeah.

01:51:48.859 --> 01:51:54.095
And then I don't know who it was, or if it was somebody else, or if it was me that tried Modelo, and I was like was it you, Bradley?

01:51:54.115 --> 01:51:54.597
It was me.

01:51:55.010 --> 01:51:55.792
Okay, and now?

01:51:55.792 --> 01:52:04.997
I'm like fucking Modelo, and I had a Budweiser, probably within the last year, and I was like this is disgusting.

01:52:05.018 --> 01:52:06.561
Yeah, because it's fucking terrible beer.

01:52:06.862 --> 01:52:08.635
It was disgusting.

01:52:08.654 --> 01:52:10.220
Yeah, it's awful.

01:52:11.369 --> 01:52:12.655
Unless you want to sponsor us.

01:52:13.789 --> 01:52:14.854
Then we love you, Budweiser.

01:52:14.875 --> 01:52:15.436
We love you.

01:52:16.435 --> 01:52:19.409
I do like some of their products, just not their staple.

01:52:19.650 --> 01:52:21.810
I like their old commercials Well.

01:52:21.930 --> 01:52:28.199
I like the Clydesdales those are great, exactly, yeah, the fucking great Clydes Ugh Exactly.

01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:29.081
Yeah.

01:52:29.081 --> 01:52:34.250
Yeah, the fucking frogs, anyway, anyway, what do we think about the?

01:52:35.131 --> 01:52:35.652
white Russian drink.

01:52:35.671 --> 01:52:36.011
I liked it.

01:52:36.032 --> 01:52:37.273
I've had white Russians before.

01:52:37.393 --> 01:52:38.993
Okay, I don't know if I have.

01:52:38.993 --> 01:52:39.494
I don't know.

01:52:39.614 --> 01:52:39.994
That's okay.

01:52:39.994 --> 01:52:40.255
That's okay.

01:52:40.255 --> 01:52:41.216
You know what?

01:52:41.395 --> 01:52:42.056
Welp, I suppose that's okay.

01:52:42.056 --> 01:52:42.516
You know what?

01:52:43.077 --> 01:52:46.359
Welp, I suppose, welp, we'll see you in part two.

01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:48.782
All right, buffoons, that's it for today's episode.

01:52:49.362 --> 01:52:55.346
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