Nov. 19, 2025

The Origin of Weird: Uther Pendragon and Lady Igraine

The Origin of Weird: Uther Pendragon and Lady Igraine

A dragon-tailed comet blazes across the sky, a king takes it as a sign, and a wizard decides the future is worth a dangerous bargain. We dive into the charged origin of King Arthur—not at the anvil, but at Tintagel—where Uther Pendragon’s obsession, Merlin’s strategy, and a night of disguise set the legend in motion. This is a story about how power, desire, and prophecy can collide, and how the choices of one generation echo into the next.

We unpack Uther’s volatile strengths and flaws, Egraine’s impossible position, and Gorlois’ loyalty in the face of a spiraling siege. Merlin steps in with a plan that puts destiny over decorum: a transformation, a breached gate, and a child conceived as Britain bleeds. From there, secrecy becomes strategy. Merlin claims the newborn, hides him with Sir Ector, and later engineers the sword-in-the-stone reveal to convert scandal into sanctity. Along the way, we explore Merlin’s own strange origin, the meaning of the dragon emblem, and the medieval mindset that read omens as maps.

The circle tightens with Morgan, Mordred, and the unraveling of Camelot. When a realm is founded on deception, does it carry collapse inside it? We connect the myth’s moral core to timeless questions: do ends justify means, can symbols legitimize power, and why do people choose to believe? Whether you cherish Arthurian legend or question its shine, this episode offers a clear, nuanced path through the fog of folklore and the politics of storytelling.

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00:00 - Folklore Or History?

00:48 - Uther’s Temper And Forbidden Desire

02:40 - Merlin’s Origins And The Dragon Omen

05:20 - Siege, Split Forces, And Tintagel

08:40 - Merlin’s Bargain For The Future Heir

10:35 - The Disguise At Tintagel

12:20 - Gorlois Falls And Uther Marries Egraine

14:00 - Arthur’s Secret Upbringing And Fate

16:30 - Morgan, Mordred, And The Tragic Circle

18:20 - What’s Legend, What’s Believed

26:52 - Closing And Listener Invitations

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Oh, hey there.

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Oh, hey there.

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I am Kate.

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And I am Bradley.

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And this is The Origin of Weird by the History Buffons.

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Thanks for joining us.

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How are you today?

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I'm doing pretty good.

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Excellent.

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Excellent.

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How are you?

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I am doing well, thank you.

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Awesome.

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Awesome.

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I have a well, I have a story for you today, and I think you might add your own little flavor to this story as well.

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So I'm just gonna get right into it.

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All right.

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Or I could be making it up.

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We never know.

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So we are gonna go to fifth century.

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Oh, 400.

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Britain.

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Okay.

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And we're gonna tag along with Uther Pendragon.

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Oh, nice.

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You know who that is?

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I sure do, yeah.

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Please tell me.

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He is uh uh um uh King Arthur, King Arthur's father.

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Can I finish?

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He took a big breath.

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I'm sorry, I I thought you were done.

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I was like King Arthur's King Arthur.

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Uther Pendragon is his faja.

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Correct, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Good old pen dragon.

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You like this folklore?

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I love King Arthur.

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Um what's it called?

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Our Arthurian, yeah.

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Yeah, right.

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I like all that shit.

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Yeah.

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I grew up liking that stuff.

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Obviously, you know, even completely not related, but kind of you know, like Sword and the Stone by Disney.

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Right.

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I love that movie growing up um because it was just a weird take on it and everything.

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But it's all folklore.

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Like there isn't this isn't these aren't real people.

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It's not, I mean, the you go back then though, they thought they were real people.

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The writers, the the people who wrote about the authorian people, yeah, um, basically made it sound as if they were historical people.

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Correct.

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And they to the point where they even thought um they at one time they found Arthur and Guinevere's grave because they found some a pair of skeletons in a grave, and they're like, it's Arthur and Guinevere.

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You're like, okay.

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Are you sure?

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Yeah.

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Did you DNA test?

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Oh, I'm sorry, it's 900.

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I don't do that.

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Did you carbon date?

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But they full on believed that they were real people, but it was just literally a folklore to try and like bring the British together, more or less.

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Yeah.

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So so we are actually going to um follow Uther Pendragon and how he conceived King Arthur.

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Do you know this story?

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I do actually.

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I remember watching uh I've watched a couple shows and uh read some books because I use I used to read a lot of books on King Arthur and obviously lineage of him and so on.

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So Camelot.

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Yep.

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Um so yeah, I do actually know this.

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So this is this is great because I I do love this stuff.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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Okay, great.

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So um Uther was considered a high king.

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Um he he's remembered as like a fierce defender of of Britain, yeah.

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Um, but he was also someone with a short fuse, quick temper, and not much in the gratitude department.

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Right.

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Um, so he had his mix of strengths and flaws.

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Most people do.

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Yeah, of course.

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Um, and after a a hard-won battle, one of his loyal allies, Gorlo Gorlois.

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Gorlois?

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Gorlois, maybe Gorlois.

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G-A-R-L-O-I-S.

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Yeah, Gorlois, maybe.

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Sure.

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Um, Gorlois, go Gorlois helped him win this battle.

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Okay.

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Um, and Uther spots Egraine.

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Lady E.

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Grain, yeah.

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This is Gorlois' wife.

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She's described as being so beautiful.

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She outshone every woman in Britain, and Uther falls for her instantly.

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So, despite Gorlois' loyalty, that's such a hard name to say.

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And that's that's the wife again, right?

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Gorlois is the uh the husband, the husband who was a very loyal ally to Uther.

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The wife.

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I just I know Lady Egrain's the fucking god damn it.

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That's okay.

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Yes, I knew that.

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Um, but Uther, of course, can't help himself.

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No, because he's king, so he makes his interest in egrain incredibly obvious at court to the point where writer Jeffrey of Monmouth hints he tries to push his advances far too aggressively.

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Oh, wow.

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And egrain, understandably, um, unsettled in all of this, tells her husband.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Hey.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Um hubby, this is happening over here.

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Hey, Garlois.

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Yeah.

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Garlois, I gotta tell you something.

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Exactly.

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All right.

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So Garlois reacts pretty fast and he gets Egrine out of there.

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Well, that's smart.

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And Uther reacts a little bit faster.

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Oh shit.

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And worse.

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And worse.

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He felt insulted and rejected, and he declares that um Garlois' departure is an act of rebellion.

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Oh shit.

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Uh-huh.

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And in no time, he's laying siege to the castles of the very man who saved him in battle.

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All because he wanted to bang this chick.

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Lust, my friend.

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Wow.

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That's just wild.

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It snow this lust literally snowballed into a civil war.

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Right.

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So chronicle writers, chroniclers, writers later wrote that Igring was actually heartbroken at this civil war.

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It was all happening because of and for her.

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Right.

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So she felt so awful about this.

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Well, yeah, because basically people are being killed.

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Yeah.

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In her name.

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Yes, basically.

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But it's not her fault.

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It's no, it's it's it's obviously Uther.

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Yeah.

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Uh so I mean, wow.

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Yeah.

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So enter Merlin.

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Uh, good old Merlin.

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Um, he is part prophet, part trickster, whatever you want to say.

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Magician.

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Magician.

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He's wizard, warlock, mastermind.

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Let's keep going.

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He's the figure who always seems to appear when a king is about to make some terrible decision.

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So he's got this weird origin story as well.

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I'll just kind of do a little bit of him.

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Yeah.

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Um, medieval writers cast Merlin as um kind of a child of a mortal woman and an incubus.

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Oh, really?

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Uh-huh.

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His mother was a noblewoman or nun, depending on the version that you read.

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Okay.

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Insisting that she had never been with a man.

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Oh.

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He's like, he's Jesus.

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Or Shmi Skywalker.

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What?

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Anakin's Mom.

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She didn't he didn't have a dad.

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No, he didn't have a dad.

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He didn't have a dad?

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No, he was born from the force.

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Was he?

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Yeah.

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Have you watched Star Wars?

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Yeah, but I don't remember her part very well.

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Well, she was in the prequel, not the good ones.

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Oh, okay.

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They're better than the sequels, though.

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Okay, so she had insisted that she's never been with a man.

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She only remembered a mysterious spirit visiting her.

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The rest was just like connecting the dots.

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They're like, oh, it was an incubus.

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Okay.

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Better than a succubus.

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So some storytellers even claimed a group of demons created Merlin on purpose as an antichrist figure, only for the plan to backfire completely when his baptism quote unquote canceled out the evil and left him with prophecy and magic instead.

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I gotcha.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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So by the time I've never heard that explanation for him.

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That's weird.

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Okay.

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So by the time that Uther rose to power, Merlin already had this reputation as a seer.

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Sure.

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So during the struggle against um the Saxons of the time, Uther saw a comet streak.

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How many times have comets come into our stories?

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A few now.

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Yes.

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Honestly.

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And back then it was considered an omen, right?

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100% because they didn't understand it.

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Right.

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Right.

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So Uther saw this comet streak across the sky, and he said it looked like a fiery table, nope, tail shaped like a dragon's head.

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Okay.

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Merlin, um, the interpreter of Cosmic Weird um declared it as a sign.

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According to Merlin, Uther's son would become a great conqueror, and his daughter's descendants would wear crowns of their own.

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That was what this comet implied.

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Wow.

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That seems like a stretch.

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Uther embraced the dragon as his emblem and took the name Pendragon.

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Oh, so that's how that came.

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I never knew that either.

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Okay, cool.

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Um, Pendragon meant chief dragon or superior warrior.

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Okay.

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Uh so because Merlin believed Uther's lineage was destined to shape Britain, right?

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He had a personal stake in how the bloodline unfolded.

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Well, I would think so.

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I mean, he's the one who prophesied it.

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So by the time that Uther's feud with Gorlois over Egrain erupted, Merlin likely already sensed where this was kind of heading.

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Right.

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So the prophecy pointed to a child of great importance, and if that meant helping a king chase a dangerous infatuation, he's like, let's do it.

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Merlin was willing.

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Yeah.

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He's like, I'll help you, banger.

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Exactly.

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So wow.

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Yeah.

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Um, so Merlin isn't helping Uther because he's a romantic at heart, he's doing it because he wants that prophesied child to exist.

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Correct.

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So if a magical deception is required, um, so be it.

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He's he's down to clown.

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Yeah, I mean, his dad was a demon.

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Let's do it.

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His dad was a demon.

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Let's do it.

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Holy shit.

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So, meanwhile, the war with Uther started.

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Um, the war that Uther had started was starting to spiral out of control.

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Right.

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Gorlois um was furious, he was protective, and he splits his forces.

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He sends Egrain to the nearly unassailable fortress of Tintagel.

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Tintagal.

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Okay.

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And it was perched on cliffs that practically was impenetrable.

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Right, yeah.

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Okay.

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Then he holds all of his troops in Dimiloch.

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Okay.

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Dim Dimaliok, pardon me.

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Dimelioch.

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I would have believed you the first time, but yeah, let's correct it.

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So he's gonna defend his honor at Dimelioc, keep his wife safe at Tintigal, and hope Uther like chills the fuck out.

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Chills the fuck out.

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Of course, Uther's not gonna chill the fuck out.

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No, because he wants to bang a lust.

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Bang a grain.

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Oh he besieges Dimeleoc, but he's not thinking like a king or a general.

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He's thinking like a man obsessed.

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Tintacle is unreachable.

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Okay.

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Galor galor Gorlois is headstrong.

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I wish he was just called Steve.

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I know, right?

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And Uther's frustration grows every single day.

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Exponentially.

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So even with Egrain from within Tintacle, said to have been heartsick over all these men dying for her.

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Right.

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Uther has backed himself into a corner.

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Oh dear.

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He can't win Egrain over without defeating Gorlois.

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Right.

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And he can't defeat Gorlois without tearing Breton apart.

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They were allies.

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Do you think it's funny?

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Because, like, I know how I'm gonna get her.

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I'll kill her husband.

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Right.

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And she's gonna be so happy for me.

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She'll just willingly spread her legs for some joy.

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So at this point, Urther, Uther is so far gone that um he started asking for a sorcerer.

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Yep.

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Enter Merlin.

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He sends for uh Merlin and says, I must have e-grained you're clever, fix this, figure it out.

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So Merlin, never one to waste an opportunity, proposes a plan.

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Yeah.

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But before he helps, he names his price.

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Oh dear.

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Any child born from Uther, any grains union must be given to him.

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Right.

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Because he's gonna raise it, basically.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Merlin is looking past the affair, past the war, straight towards the legend that he had been predicting.

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The prophecy.

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Of course, Uther is blinded by lust.

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So he's like, yeah, sure.

00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:12.720
Yeah, exactly.

00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:13.759
Agrees instantly.

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You can have that in a couple dollars.

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Yeah, I don't care.

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So after all that, what's the harm in promising away like a hypothetical baby?

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They don't know what's gonna end in a child.

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Right.

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You know?

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So the deal is struck.

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Merlin agrees to make Uther's desires possible.

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Yep.

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And in return, he gets the child that will might one day fulfill his prophecy.

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Right.

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Okay.

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What Merlin creates next is basically like a medieval catfish moment.

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Um enchantments, potions, whatever tricks he's got in his back pocket.

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Right.

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He transforms Uther into Garlois.

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Garlois.

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Yep.

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The face, the voice, the body, the presence, the whole package.

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Yep.

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He then disguises himself and another one of Uther's companions as two of Gorlois's knights.

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Oh, okay.

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I didn't know that part.

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And together the trio slips away undercover.

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While Uther's army keeps the real Gorlois trapped in a battle at Demelioc, the disguised party rides straight to Tintacle.

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He's like, honey, I'm home.

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I'm home.

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Right after supper, you want to buy?

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Egrain is anxious.

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She's fearing for her husband's safety.

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Then all of a sudden, Gorlois appears at the gate.

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He is there.

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The guards recognize their lord and let him in without hesitation.

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Yep.

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Uther strolls into Egrane's chambers.

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She sees her husband alive and unarmed and believes every words word he's feeding her about slipping past the siege to and to secure her safety.

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Right.

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Um, she welcomes him without doubt or suspicion.

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And the legend says she gave freely all that he desired.

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Well, yeah, because I was gonna say when you when you got through the gate, I'm like, I wonder if you joked.

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Like, this is no this isn't the only thing I'm gonna penetrate tonight.

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Jesus.

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No, not so good.

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So, as fate would have it, yes, everything also comes to a head that night.

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Oh dear.

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The real Gorlois is killed in the fighting at Dimmeliock.

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Oh no.

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While his double is in Egrine's bed.

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Um, some versions say he died before the baby is conceived, others say afterwards, but by morning he was pretty much dead.

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Yeah.

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So at dawn, Uther slips out of Tentacle with Merlin and the other companion, leaving Egrain thinking her husband has just gone to rejoin the battle.

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Yeah.

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Not long after, um, a messenger arrives to report that Gorlois dies.

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And he's like, wait, what?

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Yes.

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That can't be.

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I was just with him.

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Exactly.

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So still disguised, Uther improvises, claiming the rule the rumors of his death were false, and that he must go make peace with the king before further disaster strikes.

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It buys enough time for him to leave, and once they're safely away, Merlin lifts the spell and restores everyone's two faces.

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Oh.

00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:58.559
So back at camp, Uther returns in his own form and performs um or or he he fakes his astonishment over Gorlois' death.

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Right.

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So with his rival gone, he orders a ceasefire.

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Okay.

00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:15.440
He sends word to Egrain, either coercing her surrender or proposing marriage while she's newly widowed and vulnerable.

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Different varies, um, but the outcome is the same.

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He says Uther secures his death.

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Well, like Uther has caused his death, essentially.

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Right.

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So Egraine later confesses nervously that she's somehow pregnant by a man who looked like her husband.

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Oh dear.

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That's when Uther reveals that was me.

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That was me.

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Did you like that?

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I did.

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The writer, Joffrey, of Monmouth's his versions of the story, skips over her reaction.

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Of course.

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And simply says that the two live together as equals.

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Like just jumping into happily ever after.

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Alright, we're cool.

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Yeah.

00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:02.640
We're gonna have a kid, man.

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Oh, by the way, um, I owe I owe a wizard that kid.

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I forgot, I forgot to tell you that when I was Garlois and undercover.

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So from this night of magic, deception, grief, power, lust, whatever.

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The child Merlin bargained for would eventually be born.

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Yes.

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Arthur.

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Yes.

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So a few months later, Egraine gives birth to the child destined to become King Arthur.

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Only a few months?

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Doesn't it take night?

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After so, with that birth, Uther's bargain with Merlin has to be completed.

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Be completed.

00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:46.960
Yeah.

00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:50.880
So on the very night the baby is born, Merlin arrives to collect what was promised.

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Yep.

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Uther and Egreen's newborn is quietly handed over, just as Uther agreed before.

00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:56.480
Yes.

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Merlin wastes no time to protect the child and to keep the circumstances of his conception safe, safe and under wraps.

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He um whisks the infant away from court.

00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:09.920
Right.

00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:18.799
So if word spread that Arthur came into the world through sorcery and disguise and betrayal and it wouldn't go over well.

00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:19.599
Yep.

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It could easily endanger both the baby and his future claim.

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So Merlin takes Arthur into the night and delivers him to a loyal knight, Sir Ector.

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Yes, who will raise the boy in secrecy as a foster son.

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Right.

00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:38.240
Just like that, Igorine loses not only her first husband, now, but now her newborn child.

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Yep.

00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.400
Did they have did her and Garlois have kids prior to this?

00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:42.880
No.

00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:43.440
Okay.

00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:50.640
So in other tellings, the secret upbringing becomes one of the keystones of the legend.

00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:50.960
Right.

00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:56.880
Arthur grows up unaware of his royal blood until Merlin orchestrates the sword and the stone.

00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:57.279
Yep.

00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.079
The moment that reveals that he's the hidden heir.

00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:00.960
Correct.

00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:10.880
Merlin, having engineered both Arthur's conception and his disappearance, keeps the boy Tech safely out of reach until Britton is ready for him.

00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:11.519
Correct.

00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:12.079
Okay.

00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.400
So meanwhile, Uther and Egrain settled into married life.

00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:17.279
Weird.

00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:20.079
In some accounts, they have a daughter together.

00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:20.559
Oh.

00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.680
Um, Jeffrey of Monmouth, a writer, calls her Anna.

00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:24.079
Okay.

00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:26.799
Who late later marries King Lot.

00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:29.039
Who's that?

00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:31.119
Another king.

00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.079
Wasn't part of my research.

00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:36.799
Okay.

00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:38.400
Yeah.

00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:39.279
Continue.

00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:39.759
Yeah.

00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:40.720
Wow.

00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:52.000
So in later versions, um Okay, so Anna and King Lot, they have a daughter, Morgace, Morgause.

00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:52.880
Morgan?

00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:53.519
Nope.

00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:54.960
Definitely not Morgan.

00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:55.440
Okay.

00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:06.720
Um, but she is Arthur's half-sister, and they have a child conceived when Arthur unknowingly sleeps with her.

00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:07.759
That's not her.

00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:09.200
Her name's Morgan.

00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.680
I don't have an N in this in this name.

00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:14.960
Morgan LeFay?

00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:16.160
I don't know.

00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:17.200
I'd have to look that up.

00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:18.640
I'm pretty sure that's right.

00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:19.440
Maybe.

00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:27.839
Um, so through that daughter's line comes Mordred, the man fated to bring Arthur down.

00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:28.640
Right.

00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:35.200
So Arthur's questionable conception gives rise to a child born from another taboo union.

00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:35.839
Yep.

00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:44.319
Uther's act of deception, uh, deception creates the conditions for Arthur's birth and Arthur's own tragic mistake later.

00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:44.799
Yes.

00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.039
Creating his own downfall.

00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:47.920
Yes.

00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:54.240
The sins of the father ripped into the son's legacy, destroying Camelot in the end.

00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:54.960
Right.

00:22:55.519 --> 00:23:04.079
Um, legendary history um shows that the story of Arthur's birth and death forms one giant tragic circle.

00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:04.880
Yeah.

00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:10.880
Set in motion the night Merlin placed a dragon-crowned king into another man's bed.

00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:12.880
With his wife.

00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:14.720
With his wife.

00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:15.519
No.

00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:19.039
Uh look up um Mor Morgan?

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Morgan Le Fay.

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Is it LaFay?

00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.000
Or am I shit?

00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:26.160
It's been a minute.

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A powerful enchantress, healer, sometimes villain, sometimes ally.

00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:39.279
Um Morgan the Fairy, Morgan the Enchant Enchanter.

00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:51.039
She first appears in Jeffrey of Mammoth's 12th century writing, where she's described as a magical woman living on the Isle of Avalon.

00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.640
Later medieval writers expand her into Arthur's half-sister.

00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:57.359
Right.

00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:58.240
Yes.

00:23:58.640 --> 00:23:58.960
See?

00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:02.559
And she tricked Arthur into banging her.

00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:09.440
So what I have, this is the um Morgace or Morgause, that's another version of this story.

00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:14.079
I had never heard that that uh pronunciation of her name, I guess.

00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:15.920
I just always knew her as Morgan.

00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:16.400
Yeah.

00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:18.400
So I wish it was Morgan.

00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:19.759
Because that would be easier.

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:20.640
Yeah.

00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:29.359
So some French romances expose she exposes Guinevere's affair.

00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:30.960
She tries to trap Merlin.

00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:31.279
Yeah.

00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:33.119
She steals Excalibur.

00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:35.519
She plots against Arthur.

00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:40.000
Like there they don't exactly paint her into the brightest light.

00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:40.799
Brightest light.

00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:41.200
Yeah.

00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:46.960
Anyway, so that is the awful story of how Arth King Arthur was conceived.

00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.240
In storytelling.

00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:49.920
In in fork folklore.

00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:52.079
Because he is It's not real.

00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:52.880
Not real.

00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:53.680
Not real.

00:24:54.160 --> 00:25:03.519
Back then it was a lot easier to obviously tell these stories to like romanticize like our savior.

00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:03.839
Yeah.

00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.039
King Arthur.

00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.559
But man, people back then, they believed he was a real fucking person.

00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:08.960
Yeah.

00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.000
And Guinevere and all that, like I said earlier on.

00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:21.599
They thought they found their grave and they like made this shrine to it and everything, or you know, probably built a church in a uh sarcophagus or whatever the fuck it was.

00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:22.480
I'm not sure.

00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:24.880
But um, no, they all thought it was real.

00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.440
So you had said that you knew this story.

00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.000
I did.

00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:29.839
I've the most of that you knew.

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:30.240
Correct.

00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:38.240
A couple of the little details you didn't there was some details I didn't know about like Merlin's upbringing or whatever.

00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:40.160
Yeah, I didn't know anything like that.

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:44.160
And there's a couple other things, but what the overall story, yes, I did know.

00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:52.160
Because again, I'm a big fan of Arthurian legend, and uh I read a lot of books when I was younger, watched some movies and so on, or whatever.

00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:53.920
There's actually a good series.

00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:58.000
I think it came out in the late 90s, with Sam Neil as Merlin.

00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:03.359
Um and I don't remember who played other people in the show.

00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:04.960
It spent so long since I actually watched it.

00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.480
I actually had it on VHS.

00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.799
But um it was him recall retelling the story to somebody.

00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:21.359
And I remember there was one line in it, I'm probably gonna butcher this, but it was like basically why don't people believe in a you know, why is magic gone?

00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.200
Basically, because people stop believing in it.

00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:34.400
So that for some reason that line always kind of stuck with me, even though I'm probably again getting it not exactly entirely correct, but no, I've always liked King Arthur and that stuff.

00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:42.000
Because even though it's far earlier than medieval time, it's still kind of in that realm, yeah, more or less.

00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:43.759
Uh just kind of style.

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:44.160
Yeah.

00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.960
But um, no, I I did know that story, yes.

00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:48.240
That was very cool.

00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:49.440
I like I like that one.

00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:50.480
So awesome.

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:51.279
Yeah.

00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:52.079
Well.

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:52.960
I suppose.

00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.519
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