May 12, 2025

Tropical Text Message: PT-109 and JFK

Tropical Text Message: PT-109 and JFK
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The story of how a future president became an unlikely war hero starts with a wooden boat cut in half by a Japanese destroyer in the pitch-black waters of the South Pacific. Despite having a bad back that should have kept him out of service altogether, Lieutenant John F. Kennedy found himself commanding PT-109 in the dangerous waters of the Solomon Islands during World War II.

When disaster struck in the early morning hours of August 2, 1943, Kennedy's leadership abilities truly emerged. After his boat was rammed and split in two, he personally swam miles through shark-infested waters with an injured crewman's life vest strap between his teeth, island-hopped across treacherous stretches of ocean, and ultimately carved an SOS message into a coconut husk that would save his men. For six grueling days, Kennedy and his surviving crew members endured dehydration, starvation, and constant fear of Japanese patrols while stranded on tiny Pacific islands.

The most remarkable part of this harrowing survival tale involves two brave Solomon Islanders, Biuku Gasa and Eroni Kumana, who risked their lives paddling Kennedy's coconut message 35 miles through enemy waters to reach Allied forces. Without their courage, Kennedy and his men might never have made it home. This coconut would later sit on Kennedy's desk in the Oval Office, a humble reminder of where his journey to leadership truly began.

What makes this story so compelling is Kennedy's modest response when later asked how he became a war hero: "It was involuntary. They sank my boat." The experience revealed the true character of the man who would become America's 35th president—not through political calculation but through raw courage and unwavering commitment to his fellow sailors. This incredible chapter of Kennedy's life demonstrates how leadership emerges not from privilege but from how one responds when everything goes catastrophically wrong.

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John F. Kennedy and PT-109

https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/john-f-kennedy-and-pt-109

John F. Kennedy and PT Boat 59 by hparkins,

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2012/09/24/john-f-kennedy-and-pt-boat-59/

The Solomon Islanders who saved JFK By Rob Brown BBC World Service

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28644830



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00:00 - Episode Introduction

05:00 - Jackie Boy and the PT Boats

19:45 - PT-109 Gets Destroyed

38:30 - Island Hopping Survival

52:45 - The Coconut Message

01:03:30 - The Rescue Mission

01:08:30 - Revealing Jackie Boy's Identity

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I would be okay if you never did that again Into the microphone.

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You can do it, did that again Into the microphone.

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You can do it elsewhere, just not into the microphone and we're off.

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Oh hey there.

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Oh, hey, there, How's it going, kate.

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Good, I was just told I can't whistle anymore.

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I didn't say you couldn't whistle, just not into the microphone.

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Hey, we're the history buffoons and I'm kate the whistler I'm bradley the non the non whistler no, the annoyed, it's like an old-timey like you read me in a book brad the Annoyed.

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I've been the terrible and Bradley the Annoyed.

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Yeah, exactly, both had a Never mind.

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How's it going today?

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It's going well, excellent, yeah, it was actually a pretty good week for me on the massage end of things.

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Oh, that's good.

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Yeah, saw some good people, did some good work, I think.

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Well, if anyone needs to think it, it's at least you.

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Yeah, because it doesn't really matter what everyone else thinks at that point, I guess not.

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Unless they don't come back.

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Well, I don't know.

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From what you tell me, you seem to get people to sign up quite often.

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I mean often.

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You know what I mean by that.

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Yeah, but they seem to be.

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You have a lot of repeat clients.

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I love my clients.

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They're all so great, for sure, yeah.

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Weed out the bad ones, keep the good ones.

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I'm not going to say I've never done that, and moving on.

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So, I'd like to report that my job is good.

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Okay, so I did not come up with a question for today's episode.

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So, you're going to talk about the drinks that we have, and I'm going to come up with a question for you.

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Okay, well, let me reach.

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So we are doing something a little different.

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I hope I don't regret this, but we are going to drink a Cutwater, tiki Rum, Mai Tai, and the whole reason why we're drinking this is because it's got flavors of coconut in it, which I was told I requested.

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There's coconut in the story.

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Yes, there is a coconut.

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I do like coconut.

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It's not that I'm not a fan.

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Just don't know if I'm gonna enjoy this beverage well, it is a seltzer right that's what I don't think.

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This is a seltzer tiki rum my type.

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Oh, it's a 12.5.

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Yeah it's got holy shnikes.

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It's got some.

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Holy shnikes, it's got some balls to it.

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It's made with a real two plus shots of real rum, yep, but it's gluten-free Fucking thank.

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God For my celiac friends.

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Okay, an Island Escape real rum featuring a blend of our award-winning rums with notes of pineapple, coconut and citrus, garnished with a pineapple wedge to tap into tiki.

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I didn't buy pineapple for this, but it was made in San Diego that's what it said.

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I guess, it doesn't matter, let's open this up.

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Can I tell?

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you a quick story.

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Can I open it up?

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I was expecting you to while I told you a quick story.

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Can I open it up?

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I was expecting you to while I told you this.

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Okay, great, I guess I don't have to.

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No, tell me.

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I was working at a grocery store a long time ago and a lady came up to me and asked me where the glutton free aisle was.

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I said it was right next to sloth.

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Okay, cheers.

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So okay, this is what the bottle or the can looks like.

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Okay, so cut water.

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Tiki rum, mai Tai with coconut oh, I can smell it.

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I can.

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It's not very coconutty.

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That's tasty.

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It's not bad.

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For a canned mixed beverage.

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I was going into it thinking it was a seltzer.

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That was same part of my problem.

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It's not a seltzer, it's definitely not a seltzer, thank god, because I just I don't like seltzers I'm not a seltzer person.

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Okay, that wasn't bad.

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No, not at all.

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I like tonic, I don't like seltzer, but anyways so I still don't have a question for you you were supposed to come up with that while I was talking about it, and then you commandeered my conversation with the camera.

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You are distracting.

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What yeah?

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Never yeah.

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First time.

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Yeah, no, what you said, yeah first.

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Sucker.

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Okay.

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What.

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Has your dad ever bailed you out of anything Like a bad grade or not making a team?

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or failing something.

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Did he ever bail you out on anything?

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not in that aspect?

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Is there another aspect that he would have bailed you out?

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yeah, jail, I'm just kidding, but it worked, didn't it?

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Um my, my last marriage.

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He bailed you out of your last marriage.

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Yeah, Basically.

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Yeah yeah, he helped me get through that monetarily.

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Yeah yeah, my parents bailed me out.

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My my parents helped bail me out um over over COVID um in order for us to, they helped us buy a house.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So we're going to talk about Jackie boy.

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Jackie boy.

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Jackie boy.

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Do tell about Jackie boy Jack, he is the rip the rookie skipper.

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Jack the rookie skipper.

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Jackie boy the rookie skipper.

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Why is it so close to Jack the ripper?

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It was unplanned.

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Unintentional was unplanned, unintentional, unintentional, okay, okay, let's talk about jackie boy.

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Jackie boy was born may 29th 1917 near boston mass, boston, massachusetts I don't know how they speak not like.

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It's not like that my apologies um he was?

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He was one of nine fucking kids that is a lot of kids and, yeah, that's probably how they got the nine.

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They were fucking.

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Nine kids, hell of no, no thanks.

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I mean two was I jokingly tell Vesper that I was good with one and I love my daughter.

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But nine holy balls, that's a lot, that is way too many yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Jackie boy had some major back problems as a kid.

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He had scoliosis that sounds terrible.

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He had football injuries et cetera, and he wanted to join the US in the war.

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Okay, so in the World War IIs, mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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So he was able to join the US Navy through the help of Captain Alan Kirk, who is the director of the Office of Naval Intelligence.

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Okay.

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And he had been the naval attaché in London.

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What's an attaché?

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Assistant.

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Is that really what it is?

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I don't know.

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You're making shit up, is that really?

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what it is.

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I don't know, you're making shit up.

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He was the naval attache in London when Jackie Boy's father was the ambassador.

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So they were born in London, or that's just where they were stationed.

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His father was an ambassador in London, but he was born and raised in the United States.

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But his father was just an ambassador.

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Where was he born?

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in the United States, boston.

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Oh, that's right.

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Yeah, I'm sorry, I mixed that up in my brain.

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That's okay, it happens.

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Yeah, you do it a lot, so we're talking a lot of a bit of nepotism here.

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There's some nepotism.

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So he was a nepo baby.

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Jackie boy was a 4F.

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So he couldn't he wasn't allowed to be in, so he's like Steve Rogers, yeah, steve Rogers.

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From.

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Captain.

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America.

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The first Avenger.

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He was denied entry into the US Navy until his father got involved.

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Oh, dear, seems like.

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And it's because of his back injuries and his scoliosis.

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Well, I mean, can you blame him for not accepting him for that?

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Yeah, so so in 1942, Jack wanted to command a fast, flashy PT boat.

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So he would have been 25 at this point.

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Yes, he's young.

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A PT boat is a patrol torpedo boat, correct, but his back was an absolute mess and the Navy wasn't exactly thrilled that he was going to be commanding, but daddy pulled some more strings.

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Well, you know Is that he was going to be commanding, but Daddy pulled some more strings.

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Well, you know Is that an idiom to pull strings?

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I believe it is.

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Yeah, Hold please, Sip, sip.

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This is way better than I thought it would be Same, and the fact that it's 12 and a half is holy balls.

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Holy balls.

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I even have a backup a fresh coast from three sheeps.

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I have a backup.

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Uh, Sierra Nevada, rad little thing.

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Yeah, I'm excited for that.

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Okay, so Papa edited, fabricated, lied, bluffed, hoodwinked Jack's medical work records bamboozled, bamboozled I love that word.

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Um jack passed training in chicago and rhode island and then he got his first pt boat, commanded the first pt boat pt 101 well, it sounds like a course in college.

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Yes, um, and that was in late 1942 okay but it was stuck in the panama canal, which really didn't have any action, and that that's where Jackie Boy wanted to be.

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He wanted to be in the action.

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Oh, okay, I thought you meant he wanted to be where there is none.

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Gotcha Jack called in some more favors.

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Oh Jesus.

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Christ, this time from a senator.

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And voila, he was shipped to the South Pacific, where things would get a little bit more exciting and potentially fatal.

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Did he come across the Sullivan brothers?

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Six months ago or before.

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It was either six months before or six months after.

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I looked it up and I don't remember.

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High quality podcasting right there.

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I know, but they were six months apart.

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Okay, Okay.

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So Jack finally gets into the action in April 1943.

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Right.

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Heading to the Solomon Islands to command PT Boat 109.

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Oh Okay.

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It was a fast wooden boat, wooden Wooden, with a crew of 12.

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That's not very many.

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It's a widow.

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So 12, including Jack Jacky boy.

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Yeah, no, I think yes, he's number 12.

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Okay, yeah.

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So, jackie boy?

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Yeah, no, I think yes, he's number 12.

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Okay, yeah.

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So what the heck is it?

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Is it deep?

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I think she's having a seizure.

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Folks, we might have to pause for some medical assistance.

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Holy shit, what was that?

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Wow, what exactly is a PT boat?

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I think I did have a stroke, oh my God, I think I had have a stroke.

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Oh my God, I think I had one.

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Watching that, I think I might have to put a trigger warning on this video.

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Holy land.

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Okay, pt boat, speedboat with an attitude, a wooden speedboat with an attitude.

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Pt stands for patrol torpedo.

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They are about 80 feet long, made of wood and can hit about 40 plus miles an hour.

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All right.

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So if PT stands for patrol torpedo, what does boat stand for?

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Boat?

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Okay, carry on.

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Every time I think of a wood boat, I think of Indiana Jones, where they get chopped up and this random wooden boat explodes between two others.

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How did a wooden boat explode?

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But anyways.

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I mean, it is not fire retardant.

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I was told you didn't like that word.

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I couldn't pass that up, anyways.

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Anyway.

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So they were armed with torpedoes, machine guns.

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Did they have tubes?

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And depth charges.

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Yes, which I've.

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We've gone over that yes, actually twice.

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Depth charges.

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Yeah, so it's meant to harass larger enemy ships like destroyers and cruisers?

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Okay, it's built for speed, sneak attacks and hit and run missions.

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Um, not for like comfort or durability is that part of the reason why they were wood?

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Because they were less detectable?

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yeah, they, they actually called it the mosquito fleet I was gonna say that were you.

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Yes, I didn't even know that that's so cool.

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Were you?

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Because I'm like, because you said they were made to annoy.

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Basically, I'm like it's like a fucking mosquito.

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Yes, it's called a mosquito face small test and annoying as hell that's so funny.

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Yes, look at me, go look at you, I got something right without even knowing, huh imagine that mark calendars.

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First time for everything so the solomon islands were.

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So if, if you recall a map north of australia, yes, if you've got a map and you're in north of Australia, I do now.

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Is Papua New Guinea.

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The Solomon Islands are just to the east of Papua New Guinea, right Near Mama New Guinea.

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I'm just kidding, keep going.

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Kiddo, New Guinea actually.

00:13:15.135 --> 00:13:26.346
Uncle New Guinea and in 1943, it looked like paradise out there oh I bet Lush jungles, white sandy beaches, crystal clear water.

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But no, it wasn't.

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It wasn't great.

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It was a mirage For allied troops.

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It was humid oh I bet it was disease ridden nightmare swarming with mosquitoes and mud.

00:13:37.754 --> 00:13:40.297
Yeah, and Japanese patrols.

00:13:40.557 --> 00:13:41.857
Oh, those are the worst kind of bugs.

00:13:41.878 --> 00:13:44.743
Yes, the islands were a key battleground in the Pacific.

00:13:44.743 --> 00:13:45.524
Oh, those are the worst kind of bugs.

00:13:45.524 --> 00:13:51.431
Yes, the islands were a key battleground in the Pacific, with constant naval squirmishes, squirmishes again, air raids Not skirmishes.

00:13:51.431 --> 00:13:52.772
And jungle fighting.

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I'm just going to keep going.

00:13:54.114 --> 00:13:55.534
Please tell me you did that on purpose.

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Skirmishes.

00:13:56.797 --> 00:14:00.341
You didn't do that on purpose, did you?

00:14:00.942 --> 00:14:04.903
Okay, so the Solomon Islands were a gold mine?

00:14:04.903 --> 00:14:06.926
Oh, so they had gold in them.

00:14:06.926 --> 00:14:07.946
Hills, oh Jesus.

00:14:07.946 --> 00:14:14.311
If Japanese controlled them, they could threaten Australia, which was one of our key allies.

00:14:14.311 --> 00:14:24.697
They could disrupt allied shipping routes between the US and the South Pacific and it could build air raids to launch more attacks deeper into Allied territory.

00:14:24.857 --> 00:14:25.057
Right.

00:14:26.321 --> 00:14:33.173
If we want, if the Allies want the Solomon Islands, it would let the US push Japan back towards the home islands.

00:14:33.193 --> 00:14:33.474
Yeah.

00:14:33.860 --> 00:14:36.615
Secure island hopping towards Japan Ooh.

00:14:36.676 --> 00:14:37.480
I like island hopping.

00:14:38.523 --> 00:14:40.187
And protect Australia and New.

00:14:40.187 --> 00:14:40.668
Zealand.

00:14:40.688 --> 00:14:41.009
Okay.

00:14:41.191 --> 00:14:48.418
Okay, so we fought for the Solomons, because whomever held them control the Pacific chessboard right.

00:14:48.678 --> 00:14:48.840
Yeah.

00:14:49.659 --> 00:14:50.381
And Jack, you boy.

00:14:50.381 --> 00:14:53.571
He ended up smack dab in the middle of it.

00:14:54.062 --> 00:14:55.168
I'm so glad you caught that.

00:14:55.321 --> 00:14:56.908
In a boat made of plywood.

00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:04.043
This is second episode in a row you had smack dab, Smack dabble by August.

00:15:04.325 --> 00:15:09.118
Jack and his crew are patrolling the pitch black waters to stop Japanese ships.

00:15:09.278 --> 00:15:09.799
Okay, okay.

00:15:10.442 --> 00:15:22.006
The PT-109 missions were usually at night, okay, in near total darkness, trying to ambush these Japanese ships Right and sneaking through narrow straits.

00:15:22.368 --> 00:15:22.629
Okay.

00:15:22.690 --> 00:15:26.528
Okay, the big problem is with these pt boats.

00:15:26.528 --> 00:15:51.672
The torpedoes were garbage oh really, how come I don't know that seems like a misstep okay so early world war two torpedoes ran too deep right missed entirely or straight up, just failed to detonate like it was just just a poor design, yeah that would suck.

00:15:53.034 --> 00:15:57.953
I can see, especially depending on what they were launched from, how they could go too deep yeah which makes sense.

00:15:57.953 --> 00:16:06.150
Obviously, if they don't detonate, that's a huge fucking problem, because that's just kind of floats down in the water, um.

00:16:06.150 --> 00:16:12.126
But yeah, so how on a, on a p?

00:16:12.126 --> 00:16:18.486
I don't know if you came across this at all on a pt boat then how did they have like traditional torpedo tubes that they shot them out of?

00:16:18.486 --> 00:16:20.191
I mean, how did they do that on a wooden boat?

00:16:20.561 --> 00:16:33.150
I don't know if they had torpedo tubes torpedo tubes that keeps coming back I'll have a picture of a pt boat but I didn't go into like the design of the boat for this story.

00:16:33.230 --> 00:16:39.004
Yeah, I mean it would have been helpful, but that's okay, I'm kidding I'll get her next time.

00:16:39.024 --> 00:16:41.067
oh, we're learning folks.

00:16:41.067 --> 00:17:02.246
So PT-1 and I was one of 15 small fast PT boats sent out to mess with the Tokyo Express, the nickname the US gave the Japanese regular nighttime supply runs to troops rather than farther up the island, so that's what they called it the Tokyo Express.

00:17:02.246 --> 00:17:02.830
You got there up the island.

00:17:02.830 --> 00:17:05.039
So that's what they called it, the torpedo or, excuse me, the tokyo express you got.

00:17:07.403 --> 00:17:25.151
so the goal was to ambush the convoy, blow up some ships, maybe delay the the japanese resupply missions okay but when the pt boats actually ran into the tokyo express, three japanese destroyers loaded with supplies and an escort, things didn't quite go as planned.

00:17:25.151 --> 00:17:42.525
Sure, the us boats, the 15 of them, yeah launched 30 torpedoes and hit nada, oh my god they didn't hit a single thing, not even a scratch they're in quite a cold streak, like in baseball uh, they need to shave their mustache off all uh

00:17:43.346 --> 00:17:48.557
ortiz tell people who ortiz, is he's our?

00:17:48.817 --> 00:17:55.931
oh, I think he mostly plays shortstop now right, joey ortiz yeah, joey ortiz, right, yeah, now I'm second guessing myself.

00:17:55.931 --> 00:17:59.664
He plays for the burrs yeah, shortstop for the burrs.

00:17:59.684 --> 00:18:05.151
He's he, he looks, he's a good looking guy I'm kind of I'm kind of glad he got rid of the mustache when he doesn't have the mustache, but he's a good looking guy.

00:18:05.104 --> 00:18:05.467
I'm kind of glad he got rid of the mustache.

00:18:05.467 --> 00:18:08.568
When he doesn't have the mustache he's a better looking guy, because that was a little goofy.

00:18:09.520 --> 00:18:13.180
Apparently he shaved his mustache because he wasn't doing well, and it was all a superstition thing.

00:18:13.220 --> 00:18:18.711
Yeah, I went to the game on Wednesday and his picture up on the board still has the mustache.

00:18:18.711 --> 00:18:20.374
It's kind of funny, but anyways.

00:18:21.539 --> 00:18:21.780
Okay.

00:18:21.780 --> 00:18:28.792
So once the 15 boats torpedoes were spent, some of the boats were sent home.

00:18:29.253 --> 00:18:31.417
Okay, I suppose I mean, what use are they?

00:18:31.417 --> 00:18:34.586
Yeah, if they don't have any more A few of them, like the PT-109.

00:18:34.605 --> 00:18:35.749
Yeah, jackie, boys.

00:18:35.788 --> 00:18:35.930
Yeah.

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Stuck around in the dark hoping for another shot.

00:18:38.747 --> 00:18:44.384
Okay, Okay, so August 1st through the 2nd 1943.

00:18:44.384 --> 00:18:49.449
Okay, the PT-109 is creeping along.

00:18:49.449 --> 00:18:52.711
Oh, super slow.

00:18:52.711 --> 00:18:58.297
I was like yeah that was a little fast, super slow, to avoid detection, right, oh, all right.

00:18:58.297 --> 00:19:06.513
The research I found this from said it's basically ghost boating.

00:19:08.320 --> 00:19:10.968
It's like silent running, like in a submarine.

00:19:11.249 --> 00:19:11.971
Silent running.

00:19:12.420 --> 00:19:13.564
You've never heard that term before.

00:19:13.564 --> 00:19:14.907
Uh-uh, is that?

00:19:14.989 --> 00:19:15.450
an idiom.

00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.046
They're rigged for no, it's a thing.

00:19:18.046 --> 00:19:19.465
They're rigged for silent running.

00:19:20.181 --> 00:19:21.205
They say it in Star Trek too.

00:19:21.205 --> 00:19:23.726
I don't know Star Trek very well.

00:19:23.746 --> 00:19:25.210
I'll say you did, it's okay.

00:19:25.210 --> 00:19:29.789
It was Star Trek 4, 6.

00:19:29.789 --> 00:19:33.027
The Undiscovered Country Good movie.

00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:35.327
I watched the first one and wish I hadn't.

00:19:35.900 --> 00:19:37.424
The very first like original one.

00:19:37.424 --> 00:19:38.628
Uh-huh, that one's terrible.

00:19:38.809 --> 00:19:39.009
I know.

00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.869
If you're going to watch the original series, watch the even numbers.

00:19:43.141 --> 00:19:43.807
That's what I've been.

00:19:43.807 --> 00:19:44.836
I think you told me that.

00:19:44.836 --> 00:19:50.876
Actually, I think I've seen wrath of khan and then I've I watched the reboot, but anyway, anywho.

00:19:50.876 --> 00:19:59.047
So right after 2 am, a massive shadow looms over the pt boat.

00:19:59.047 --> 00:20:01.970
2 am okay august 2nd.

00:20:02.150 --> 00:20:02.450
Yeah.

00:20:02.651 --> 00:20:09.757
The Japanese destroyer Amagiri comes barreling through the darkness and bam.

00:20:10.557 --> 00:20:12.140
Ran into it yeah.

00:20:12.641 --> 00:20:20.445
The Amagiri slams into PT-109 at full speed oh shit and cuts it in half in like 10 seconds.

00:20:20.445 --> 00:20:21.107
Well, yeah.

00:20:21.107 --> 00:20:21.489
Get this.

00:20:21.489 --> 00:20:26.344
The destroyer's so big it didn't even realize it hit a boat I'm sure it didn't.

00:20:26.344 --> 00:20:32.103
It was like literally hitting a mosquito yeah, the japanese captain was probably like did we just hit a log?

00:20:32.103 --> 00:20:38.180
And jackie boy's like um hey, that was me where's the other half of my ship?

00:20:38.180 --> 00:20:44.430
So the destroyer smashed into pt 109 near the front torpedo tube.

00:20:44.430 --> 00:20:45.432
Hey, there's a tube.

00:20:46.313 --> 00:20:46.913
So there is one.

00:20:47.034 --> 00:20:47.795
There is a tube.

00:20:47.795 --> 00:20:48.904
I wrote it on a tube.

00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.912
Because I mean, I know there's ways of launching torpedoes without a tube.

00:20:53.912 --> 00:21:00.106
I don't know what those are off the top of my head, but besides, oh dear, that was loud.

00:21:00.106 --> 00:21:03.428
Pretty sure I had that silenced, but okay.

00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:06.868
Brandon says rock on.

00:21:06.868 --> 00:21:10.887
Brandon, yeah, Brandon, yes you gave us the rock on symbol.

00:21:10.887 --> 00:21:11.229
Thanks.

00:21:11.249 --> 00:21:11.650
Brandon.

00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:13.540
Okay.

00:21:13.540 --> 00:21:22.295
So the destroyer smashed into PT-109 near the front of the torpedo tube on the right side, tearing off a huge chunk of the boat.

00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:22.941
I bet.

00:21:23.121 --> 00:21:30.647
The impact flung Jackie Boy around the cockpit like a freaking rag doll and most of the crew got tossed then into the water.

00:21:30.647 --> 00:21:45.425
Sure, below deck engineer Patrick McMahon, who comes in a little bit later, somehow survives the explosion, but he was badly burned by ignition fuel, like 70% of his body.

00:21:45.465 --> 00:21:46.730
Oh shit, yeah, all right.

00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:51.929
So worried that the boat was about to explode, explode.

00:21:53.673 --> 00:21:56.005
Explode, that is so great.

00:21:57.580 --> 00:22:00.871
Jack told the guy still on the wreck to abandon ship Right.

00:22:00.871 --> 00:22:06.028
So the destroyers wake, so the waves that the ship makes afterwards.

00:22:06.028 --> 00:22:16.301
I had to look that up, you had to look up what a wake was yeah, I mean, I've heard it plenty of times and I thought I knew what it was, but I had to confirm, and I did right before we pressed record and did.

00:22:16.461 --> 00:22:17.204
Did you know that?

00:22:17.204 --> 00:22:18.067
Well, you're correct.

00:22:18.167 --> 00:22:24.748
Yeah, okay, yeah yeah um but the destroyer's wake helped spread out the burning fuel.

00:22:24.867 --> 00:22:25.589
Sure Makes sense.

00:22:25.700 --> 00:22:30.590
And when the flame started to die down, Jack called the crew back to the floating hunk of boat.

00:22:30.912 --> 00:22:31.653
Okay, okay.

00:22:32.201 --> 00:22:35.830
So from there, he and his crewmates tried to figure out where the rest of the men were.

00:22:37.060 --> 00:22:37.784
And there's 12.

00:22:39.189 --> 00:22:39.368
Yes.

00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:42.065
I feel like I could put the claps in there.

00:22:43.008 --> 00:22:45.160
There it is, um.

00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.810
So from there he and his crewmates tried to figure out where the rest of the men were.

00:22:48.810 --> 00:23:16.311
Some did manage to swim back on their own, Okay, but Jack personally swam out to rescue McMahon who was 70% of his body was burned and he towed him by his life vest with a strap in his teeth, oh god and swam back on his own, so he's like pulling him by a strap that's impressive by the skin of his teeth.

00:23:16.311 --> 00:23:17.675
That's an idiom.

00:23:17.776 --> 00:23:18.800
I know it's on the list.

00:23:18.800 --> 00:23:25.268
You already gave it to me look at me go so from.

00:23:25.268 --> 00:23:27.191
There um.

00:23:27.570 --> 00:23:30.714
So he regrouped on the wreckage, he did a head count.

00:23:30.714 --> 00:23:33.807
Two men were gone, probably killed on impact.

00:23:33.906 --> 00:23:38.943
I would imagine, yeah, I mean the fact that no one would have been killed on impact would have been fucking impressive.

00:23:38.943 --> 00:23:41.711
Yeah, with a fucking destroyer, was it?

00:23:41.871 --> 00:23:43.240
yeah, it was a destroyer.

00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.387
Yeah, that went With this little plywood boat.

00:23:45.568 --> 00:23:46.330
Yeah, exactly.

00:23:46.330 --> 00:23:50.400
No, I'm surprised they only lost two people, to be honest.

00:23:51.701 --> 00:24:04.266
So the rest were beat up, burned, sick from fuel flames, running on adrenaline, desperation I get tongue twisters.

00:24:04.266 --> 00:24:09.321
Okay, no, but there were no signs of rescue.

00:24:09.321 --> 00:24:17.027
There was a big enough explosion that other pt boats were like they assumed it was gone yeah, they're like there's no survivors with that one right, which was not true.

00:24:17.027 --> 00:24:24.807
Well, you know, but also they didn't want to like you can't fault them for thinking that, though no, the explosion and everything you're.

00:24:24.826 --> 00:24:37.111
You're probably like, well, they're fucked, let's uh move along and save our own skin, kind of thing and they can't like light off a flare because they're in japanese territory essentially because you're giving your your position away then.

00:24:37.131 --> 00:24:52.070
So yeah, yeah so 12 hours adrift, by morning of august 2nd, pt 109 was still floating, but barely so we're, so this must have happened august 1st into august 2nd.

00:24:52.070 --> 00:24:59.426
Okay, my bad gotcha, um, but it finally rolled over and capsized okay, okay the crew knew they had the move.

00:24:59.567 --> 00:25:01.309
Obviously they have nothing to hold on to.

00:25:01.309 --> 00:25:12.352
Yeah, after weighing their options idiom, weighing their options I know they decided to swim for a tiny islet about 3.5 miles away.

00:25:12.352 --> 00:25:21.048
No food, no water, no idea what they'd find, just hope, and Jack's busted up back leading the way.

00:25:21.048 --> 00:25:33.188
Okay, so Jack finds this island is a deserted island and it's called Plum Pudding Island and it is on the map I looked.

00:25:33.188 --> 00:25:34.586
It is called Plum Pudding.

00:25:34.779 --> 00:25:36.125
Plum Pudding Island.

00:25:36.125 --> 00:25:40.290
Who the fuck named an island, plum Pudding Island?

00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:51.440
island.

00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:55.192
But despite jack's injuries, he again takes mcmahon's strap, towed him for five hours, oh my god, as the crew kicks and paddles alongside towards the island.

00:25:55.192 --> 00:25:59.465
So they're all swimming this 3.5 miles and he's towing this guy by his teeth.

00:25:59.586 --> 00:26:03.182
That's impressive like I am not a strong swimmer by any stretch of the imagination.

00:26:03.182 --> 00:26:10.694
I didn't learn how to swim until I was, I think, 11, actually by this guy we went to school with.

00:26:10.694 --> 00:26:12.185
He was my oldest brother's friend.

00:26:12.185 --> 00:26:18.051
He taught us at Pewaukee Lake, but I am a weak fucking swimmer.

00:26:18.051 --> 00:26:18.532
I am too.

00:26:18.532 --> 00:26:22.691
I could not tow somebody five minutes, let alone five fucking miles.

00:26:22.691 --> 00:26:27.243
I mean holy shit, that's impressive, yeah, especially with a fucked up back.

00:26:27.243 --> 00:26:30.823
I mean, I got a fucked up back, but that's from age, not from scoliosis or whatever.

00:26:30.863 --> 00:26:39.105
Yeah, so holy shit yeah, so the men called plum pudding island bird island because of the guano that coated all the bushes.

00:26:39.105 --> 00:26:44.474
Bat guano, yeah, no, bird guano is that the same thing?

00:26:45.175 --> 00:26:46.117
yeah, is that what you call?

00:26:46.117 --> 00:26:47.160
I mean bird droppings.

00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:53.673
I guess I've never heard scrap, scrap, scrap, scrap, kitty cat poop, poop.

00:26:53.673 --> 00:26:56.884
What is happening right now?

00:26:57.986 --> 00:27:00.769
the island was about 100 meters wide.

00:27:00.769 --> 00:27:02.472
Nope, 100 yards wide.

00:27:02.472 --> 00:27:08.382
300 feet, 100 yards wide, so like a football field, uh-huh holy shit, teeny tiny.

00:27:08.402 --> 00:27:12.631
That is a tiny fucking island it was teeny, tiny, cheers exhausted.

00:27:12.691 --> 00:27:16.425
Jackie boy had to be helped up to the beach by the man he had towed.

00:27:16.425 --> 00:27:18.731
Oh, I bet he's like thanks for telling me.

00:27:18.811 --> 00:27:23.429
Let me help you well, I mean, he's asking for very little at this point from what he just did.

00:27:23.509 --> 00:27:25.733
And he collapsed and completely exhausted.

00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:27.365
Well, can you blame him?

00:27:27.365 --> 00:27:29.445
No, I mean, he's got a shitty back.

00:27:29.445 --> 00:27:41.207
He just swam five fucking miles with this dude with a strap in his mouth, towing this guy, and that was a great face 12.5%.

00:27:41.207 --> 00:27:42.868
Cheers to that.

00:27:42.868 --> 00:27:44.005
I got through mine.

00:27:44.005 --> 00:27:45.565
Now I'm on a seven percenter.

00:27:45.565 --> 00:27:47.740
Anywho, that would be.

00:27:47.740 --> 00:27:52.392
Yeah, he's gonna be fucking exhausted, especially just you're waiting out in water.

00:27:52.392 --> 00:27:53.180
For how long?

00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:54.080
Until you even got?

00:27:54.080 --> 00:28:01.213
To the 12 hours before you started swimming and five miles and swimming, that's not like it's a five-minute fucking swim either.

00:28:01.644 --> 00:28:03.993
So, yeah, he's going to fucking collapse.

00:28:05.105 --> 00:28:06.748
So he spotted Jackie.

00:28:06.748 --> 00:28:17.237
Boy spotted a Japanese barge cruising uncomfortably close and Jack made the decision that he would swim out to Ferguson Passage.

00:28:17.237 --> 00:28:23.700
Now, this passageway was about two and a half to three and a half miles wide.

00:28:23.700 --> 00:28:23.980
Nope.

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:24.481
How did they know?

00:28:24.481 --> 00:28:25.627
How did they know the way?

00:28:25.647 --> 00:28:29.136
okay, um, this is all after the fact the names are all after the fact.

00:28:29.136 --> 00:28:37.269
I'm joking but it was about two and a half to three and a half miles away from the island that they got to so he had to swim back another three he swam a lot.

00:28:37.269 --> 00:28:51.757
Holy shit, no kidding so um this, the so the route that American PT boats took this straight, this passageway, and so Jackie boy was hoping to go out there and wave down an American ship.

00:28:52.266 --> 00:28:54.352
He's like the fucking Michael Phelps of World War II.

00:28:54.352 --> 00:28:55.895
Yes, jesus Christ, yes.

00:28:58.247 --> 00:29:09.973
So there's a couple little islands here that jack is um near, so he swam from island to island cleaning to reefs um until he reached the ferguson passage.

00:29:09.973 --> 00:29:21.828
Wow okay, that's impressive there he treaded water for over an hour hoping to spot an american pt boat, but there was no dice, okay, and it was likely that they were fighting somewhere else.

00:29:21.828 --> 00:29:27.565
So he swam, swam back, and that swim nearly killed him Right.

00:29:27.565 --> 00:29:32.436
There were strong currents tossing him around like a cork in a blender.

00:29:33.707 --> 00:29:34.490
I've never heard that.

00:29:34.490 --> 00:29:35.928
I don't think that's an idiom either.

00:29:36.469 --> 00:29:37.030
I made it up.

00:29:37.270 --> 00:29:37.792
I think you did.

00:29:37.792 --> 00:29:39.758
I made it up Cork in a blender.

00:29:39.984 --> 00:29:43.499
And it was spinning him out into the blackett strait, which?

00:29:43.499 --> 00:29:49.835
So if the island is here, the ferguson passage is here, the straight is here and it goes in between islands.

00:29:49.974 --> 00:30:09.776
Okay, um so, um, then it kept like dragging him back from the straight into the ferguson passage and and the island was to the left and there was just, the straits were just, or, excuse me, the, the currents were just super strong and it just, it nearly killed him.

00:30:09.776 --> 00:30:14.992
Exhausted, he stopped at leo rarva.

00:30:14.992 --> 00:30:21.066
Oh, there's a new arrival for bradley on netflix can you stop reading my notifications?

00:30:21.247 --> 00:30:24.829
jesus christ, can you hit the mute button on there?

00:30:25.109 --> 00:30:26.131
I don't know, can I?

00:30:26.372 --> 00:30:32.678
No, nope, all right, hold please, jesus Christ.

00:30:36.442 --> 00:30:39.747
Okay, so he stopped at Leorava Island.

00:30:39.747 --> 00:30:42.808
Yeah, leorava Island.

00:30:43.028 --> 00:30:43.368
Yeah.

00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:50.354
Just southeast of Bird Island where he crashed and slept off the near drowning.

00:30:50.354 --> 00:30:52.395
I can really feel this alcohol.

00:30:53.215 --> 00:30:55.258
I can tell you can feel this alcohol.

00:30:55.758 --> 00:31:01.342
He eventually made it back to Bird Island and collapsed again, vomiting seawater before passing out.

00:31:03.164 --> 00:31:04.171
Wasn't this P island.

00:31:04.271 --> 00:31:06.751
Bird island is plum pudding island yeah, what they call it.

00:31:06.791 --> 00:31:10.867
They call the bird island because they didn't know, right, yeah why would they?

00:31:10.867 --> 00:31:13.032
Yeah who again?

00:31:13.032 --> 00:31:14.316
Who names an island?

00:31:14.316 --> 00:31:29.971
Plum pudding, fucking island so jackie boy made his crewman george ross yeah promised to try that same route the next night so to try to find an american was gonna do the same thing, yes, yes okay makes sense.

00:31:29.971 --> 00:31:37.815
I mean if they know that american boats patrol there, whatever, go through across.

00:31:37.815 --> 00:31:41.346
Whatever you want to say, I mean, yeah, stick to the plan, kind of thing.

00:31:41.405 --> 00:31:49.357
So okay, makes sense so ross did give it a shot, but, like Jack, he saw zero PT boats, just a lot of ocean and a lot of disappointment.

00:31:49.357 --> 00:31:53.875
Okay, right, so by now the crew's morale is pretty low.

00:31:53.875 --> 00:31:56.627
Some men are praying, others are bickering.

00:31:58.031 --> 00:31:59.154
They're what Bickering.

00:31:59.154 --> 00:31:59.556
There it is.

00:31:59.556 --> 00:32:02.589
It sounded like you said brickering, brickering.

00:32:02.589 --> 00:32:05.076
I thought you said bickering, but I just wanted to confirm.

00:32:05.644 --> 00:32:10.171
But Jack refused to give up and he's like I'm going to think this out.

00:32:10.491 --> 00:32:11.233
Did he call Daddy?

00:32:12.076 --> 00:32:12.296
Yeah.

00:32:12.616 --> 00:32:13.038
Just kidding.

00:32:14.289 --> 00:32:16.684
I mean, I see why you got that I mean that's where he got that.

00:32:16.785 --> 00:32:32.826
I see why you got that Dad, daddy, help me.

00:32:32.846 --> 00:32:34.269
so, dad, so there's a larger island nearby called olasana.

00:32:34.269 --> 00:32:37.238
Olasana, okay, and he's like well, maybe there's, there's food and less chance of enemy patrols there.

00:32:37.238 --> 00:32:41.172
Right, the island isn't the biggest around, like based on the map.

00:32:41.172 --> 00:33:25.728
Because, like, I was super confused when I'm looking at the map because I like a visual of like where everything takes place there is a really large island nearby, but they choose not to go to the larger island because this old asana that they saw was closer to the ferguson passage, which is where the us boats were.

00:33:25.867 --> 00:33:29.006
Oh yeah, that makes sense, because at least they don't have to swim as far out, kind of thing.

00:33:29.006 --> 00:33:32.518
Yes, exactly, that makes sense so jack moves his crew.

00:33:32.898 --> 00:33:42.296
They swam against a strong current and once again jackie boy told, told mcmahon by his laugh, laugh, laugh, that's fucking a life that's life vest.

00:33:42.336 --> 00:33:42.916
Fucking A Life vest.

00:33:42.916 --> 00:33:45.300
That's just insane that he keeps doing this.

00:33:45.300 --> 00:33:49.556
Seriously, it's like how I know it.

00:33:49.556 --> 00:33:51.471
I could not fucking do that.

00:33:51.471 --> 00:33:55.996
I mean think of the strain on his teeth.

00:33:55.996 --> 00:34:01.311
Hopefully he had a good dentist.

00:34:03.605 --> 00:34:17.440
So Olasana Island turned out to be a little bit of a let down of course so much different between the fresh coast and the Mai Tai.

00:34:17.481 --> 00:34:27.951
Holy crap, but it's delicious that was again a lot better than I anticipated same we got a four pack and I'm pretty sure we're gonna well we'll drink that off.

00:34:27.951 --> 00:34:30.496
This is um again.

00:34:30.496 --> 00:34:33.811
I've never had this particular san nevada, so I'm pretty excited about it.

00:34:33.811 --> 00:34:34.873
It's pretty fucking good.

00:34:34.873 --> 00:34:35.936
Good, yeah, it's.

00:34:35.936 --> 00:34:42.336
It's a west coast hazy, so a little, a little different than normal, but I like it awesome.

00:34:42.458 --> 00:34:47.751
I like my fresh coast, but I've had that before on this channel, but that's also why you're feeling a little different than Modelo's.

00:34:47.831 --> 00:34:48.773
for a change, I was.

00:34:48.773 --> 00:34:49.474
It was good.

00:34:49.956 --> 00:34:50.898
So, olisana?

00:34:50.898 --> 00:34:55.324
Yeah, there were some coconuts here, oh my God the coconuts are in the story.

00:34:55.324 --> 00:34:59.155
But eating too many of them made them, some guys, kind of sick.

00:35:05.985 --> 00:35:07.849
Well, because it's like a lubricant for the system, if you will in a way.

00:35:07.849 --> 00:35:09.313
Yeah, yeah, no fresh water on this island.

00:35:09.333 --> 00:35:10.014
Oh, that's also a bad thing.

00:35:10.014 --> 00:35:10.474
Yeah, and even worse.

00:35:10.474 --> 00:35:24.317
Everyone was a little bit too spooked to be um they're too spooked to be square they're too spooked to potentially be um I believe in you.

00:35:24.317 --> 00:35:31.829
Words are hard they were too spooked by japanese patrols right to explore beyond.

00:35:31.829 --> 00:35:38.253
No like a like a small junk patch of jungle on this island they're like yeah, we're not gonna they don't.

00:35:38.295 --> 00:35:39.501
They don't want to give their position away.

00:35:39.501 --> 00:35:42.809
They don't, obviously, because they're literally trapped on this fucking island.

00:35:42.809 --> 00:35:44.893
They don't know what's around them.

00:35:44.893 --> 00:35:53.655
They can't contact anybody from our side there could be japanese um right axes on the on the island as patrol.

00:35:53.655 --> 00:35:54.496
They have no idea.

00:35:54.496 --> 00:35:55.338
They have no idea.

00:35:55.338 --> 00:35:56.327
So no, I get it.

00:35:56.327 --> 00:36:02.186
They don't want to give their position away, so they're kind of keeping to a small, tight-knit area.

00:36:02.186 --> 00:36:06.992
At least it's not like the Thunder Punch, it's blowing up everywhere.

00:36:07.913 --> 00:36:11.197
They just filled it so full they're like we're going to give you your money's worth.

00:36:11.436 --> 00:36:12.898
We had some extra ones.

00:36:12.898 --> 00:36:15.161
I did take care of them, all of them.

00:36:15.161 --> 00:36:19.836
There was two.

00:36:19.836 --> 00:36:20.807
I had to catch up.

00:36:20.807 --> 00:36:22.960
You've had a lot more Thunder Punch in your life than I have.

00:36:24.226 --> 00:36:26.213
Not much to be honest.

00:36:26.385 --> 00:36:27.670
Definitely more than two cans.

00:36:27.985 --> 00:36:30.210
By the time I was able to drink at 21,.

00:36:30.210 --> 00:36:32.835
I was moving out of Nebraska at 22.

00:36:33.356 --> 00:36:33.737
Yeah, I know.

00:36:33.737 --> 00:36:36.233
So let that math sink in.

00:36:36.233 --> 00:36:38.853
She drank before she was 21.

00:36:39.766 --> 00:36:40.791
No, I said 20.

00:36:40.791 --> 00:36:44.893
I was actually 20, probably when I I was.

00:36:44.893 --> 00:36:47.248
I was a pretty good kid was that before 21?

00:36:47.248 --> 00:37:02.630
Okay was my statement correct on the night of august 4th it brought cold rain and just jack decided they'd try to move again the next day were they trying to go to a different island or on the same island?

00:37:02.630 --> 00:37:08.358
Another island closer to the Ferguson Strait, God how many fucking islands are there around this?

00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:09.242
There's a lot.

00:37:09.242 --> 00:37:09.766
Is there really there's?

00:37:09.905 --> 00:37:11.210
actually quite a few.

00:37:11.210 --> 00:37:13.458
Oh wow, yeah, I would say 15 plus.

00:37:13.458 --> 00:37:14.344
Holy shit really.

00:37:14.344 --> 00:37:18.110
Yeah there's a lot of islands, quite a cluster, the ones that they are on.

00:37:18.110 --> 00:37:26.349
There's three different ones that they have, and Jackie Boy probably has a fourth one, maybe a fifth one.

00:37:26.349 --> 00:37:27.130
And why did he go with jackie boy?

00:37:27.130 --> 00:37:27.632
Oh, I'll tell you later.

00:37:27.652 --> 00:37:36.697
Okay, good, because I'm really fucking curious as to why that is his, his name, nickname are you sure it's his nickname or his actual?

00:37:36.697 --> 00:37:37.038
Name.

00:37:37.038 --> 00:37:42.391
I mean, I have three last names, so whatever maybe it's spelled b-o-y-E, it's not.

00:37:42.391 --> 00:37:42.932
I know.

00:37:43.594 --> 00:37:50.871
So Jack decided they'd move again, this time to the final island in the chain.

00:37:50.871 --> 00:37:59.067
Okay, so we've got Plum Pudding, then we've got Olasana and then we've got Also aka Bird.

00:37:59.067 --> 00:38:01.849
Yes, and then we got Nauru Island.

00:38:02.150 --> 00:38:03.811
Nauru N-A-R-U.

00:38:03.952 --> 00:38:11.679
And that is the island that overlooks the Ferguson Passage where all the potential American PT boats come through.

00:38:11.798 --> 00:38:14.820
Nauru is the closest they can get to the Ferguson Passage.

00:38:14.820 --> 00:38:15.742
Yes, Okay gotcha.

00:38:15.742 --> 00:38:24.047
So he and George Ross, his other crewmate, made landfall a little afternoon on August 5th To me it just really seems weird that they're swimming and they made landfall a little afternoon on August 5th.

00:38:24.047 --> 00:38:25.295
To me it just really seems weird that they're swimming and they made landfall.

00:38:25.295 --> 00:38:30.007
I feel like you have to be in a boat or a ship to do that, okay.

00:38:30.168 --> 00:38:36.733
I get you Okay, so they're creeping, and so I creep, they're creeping into the bush, and then they keep their heads low.

00:38:36.733 --> 00:38:40.672
They're worried about running into enemy patrols.

00:38:40.672 --> 00:38:43.005
You know groundhog style.

00:38:44.228 --> 00:38:45.614
I kind of thought it was like a periscope.

00:38:45.614 --> 00:38:48.952
I mean, it's a little more fitting for what we're talking about.

00:38:48.972 --> 00:38:53.856
but either way, but instead of trouble they found a wrecked Japanese boat on a reef.

00:38:55.206 --> 00:38:56.509
Did they get to duel with people?

00:38:56.650 --> 00:38:57.632
Well, better yet.

00:38:57.793 --> 00:38:58.916
Oh shit, Was there food?

00:38:59.744 --> 00:39:03.612
There was a small box labeled in Japanese sitting on the beach.

00:39:03.952 --> 00:39:05.074
Did they know how to read Japanese?

00:39:05.193 --> 00:39:08.039
They cracked it open, oh shit, without reading it.

00:39:08.965 --> 00:39:09.206
Why wouldn't?

00:39:09.206 --> 00:39:10.409
There could have been a plague in there.

00:39:10.409 --> 00:39:12.335
Japanese candy oh fucking A.

00:39:12.335 --> 00:39:13.670
What kind of candy?

00:39:14.927 --> 00:39:18.266
I don't know, bradley, jesus Christ.

00:39:18.628 --> 00:39:19.670
Superstar.

00:39:20.952 --> 00:39:21.855
Japanese candy.

00:39:21.855 --> 00:39:25.110
Oh my, that is a welcome sight.

00:39:25.110 --> 00:39:26.653
I don't care how hungry you are.

00:39:26.755 --> 00:39:27.458
It doesn't matter.

00:39:27.458 --> 00:39:28.324
It doesn't fucking matter.

00:39:28.324 --> 00:39:30.251
It could be molasses cookies frosted.

00:39:30.251 --> 00:39:31.335
It could be candy.

00:39:35.505 --> 00:39:40.855
Molasses cookies with frosting from festival is chef's kiss.

00:39:40.855 --> 00:39:44.043
Did you say festival Festival there it is Chef's kiss.

00:39:44.043 --> 00:39:44.907
I might have to edit Festival there it is Chef's kiss.

00:39:44.987 --> 00:39:46.065
I might have to edit some of that.

00:39:46.065 --> 00:39:55.871
Not a paid endorsement, no, they're fucking delicious, anyways.

00:39:56.893 --> 00:39:57.615
Japanese candy.

00:39:57.615 --> 00:40:05.695
Okay, so they were only drinking coconuts and vomiting seawater at this point.

00:40:05.905 --> 00:40:07.090
So they're like Japanese candy.

00:40:07.090 --> 00:40:07.733
Let's do it.

00:40:07.733 --> 00:40:10.193
If they're drinking coconuts, weren't they getting water from that?

00:40:10.193 --> 00:40:11.309
That would be fresh water.

00:40:11.806 --> 00:40:13.211
It's like coconut water.

00:40:13.211 --> 00:40:14.771
It's not true water.

00:40:15.505 --> 00:40:18.494
I understand, but that's better than seawater, it's not enough.

00:40:18.824 --> 00:40:19.951
It's also not enough.

00:40:19.951 --> 00:40:33.248
It's still better than seawater Well yeah, they're not drinking seawater.

00:40:33.369 --> 00:40:36.233
They're vomiting seawater because they accidentally swallow it when they're swimming.

00:40:36.253 --> 00:40:37.153
Why are you having so many strokes today?

00:40:37.153 --> 00:40:38.074
Do we need to call the physician?

00:40:38.074 --> 00:40:39.717
Like I said, 12.5% and it's empty.

00:40:40.016 --> 00:40:40.938
Why are you bringing up the past?

00:40:40.938 --> 00:40:41.518
It's already done.

00:40:41.518 --> 00:40:44.106
No, it doesn't sound empty, jesus.

00:40:44.106 --> 00:40:46.641
That's already done.

00:40:46.641 --> 00:40:50.110
No, it doesn't sound empty, jesus, that's a short.

00:40:50.110 --> 00:40:54.333
Did you spill too, good Lord?

00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:00.992
Oh my gosh, do you know what a what are you?

00:41:01.152 --> 00:41:02.449
doing I'm cleaning myself.

00:41:02.449 --> 00:41:05.130
Oh my God, there's a time and a place, kate.

00:41:05.130 --> 00:41:09.733
Okay, do you know what the pirate's favorite letter is?

00:41:11.237 --> 00:41:11.496
The C.

00:41:11.496 --> 00:41:15.110
You told me this one before.

00:41:15.110 --> 00:41:17.668
Yes, it's not R, it's the.

00:41:17.788 --> 00:41:19.172
C R.

00:41:19.172 --> 00:41:22.472
You might think so, but it's really the C Anyways.

00:41:24.617 --> 00:41:24.878
Okay.

00:41:26.445 --> 00:41:29.431
I got to stop telling you jokes, so you don't ruin it, okay.

00:41:30.954 --> 00:41:31.574
On-a-roo.

00:41:32.277 --> 00:41:36.795
On-a-roo, na-roo, on-a-roo Okay, I got it.

00:41:36.795 --> 00:41:39.208
Space, yeah, on-a-roo.

00:41:39.228 --> 00:41:41.295
Spaces are important Japanese candy.

00:41:41.295 --> 00:41:42.186
Yes, Spaces are important Japanese candy.

00:41:42.186 --> 00:41:48.980
Just up the beach they discovered a tin of drinking water and a one-man canoe tucked into the bushes.

00:41:49.204 --> 00:41:50.250
How do they know it was one man?

00:41:50.250 --> 00:41:53.208
You couldn't fit two people in there.

00:41:53.208 --> 00:41:54.653
Are you sure?

00:41:55.445 --> 00:41:57.675
I mean, if they're freaking tiny maybe.

00:41:59.001 --> 00:41:59.664
They're Japanese.

00:41:59.664 --> 00:42:02.592
What kind of question is that A valid one.

00:42:02.913 --> 00:42:03.614
Are you sure?

00:42:03.894 --> 00:42:04.737
I'm pretty positive.

00:42:07.804 --> 00:42:16.548
Hmm, after a After, after grabbing a drink of that precious 12.5%.

00:42:16.548 --> 00:42:17.592
Precious water.

00:42:17.713 --> 00:42:17.914
Yes.

00:42:19.244 --> 00:42:27.777
Jack and Ross are headed back to the beach when they spotted two islanders near the wrecked Japanese boat.

00:42:27.777 --> 00:42:37.150
Yes, I said it Two islanders, pacific Islanders yes, my buddy, al, is a Pacific Islander Heritage.

00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:38.130
Oh, yeah, yeah, where at Shout out.

00:42:38.150 --> 00:42:40.152
Al Solomon Islands, pacific Islands, I don't fucking know Marshall.

00:42:40.152 --> 00:42:40.753
Island, bird Island, al.

00:42:40.773 --> 00:42:43.637
Solomon Islands, pacific Islands, I don't fucking know.

00:42:43.697 --> 00:42:44.438
Marshall Islands.

00:42:46.240 --> 00:42:47.501
Bird Island Plum Pudding.

00:42:47.501 --> 00:42:48.684
Maybe.

00:42:48.684 --> 00:42:52.134
Maybe Al's descendants are from Plum Pudding Al.

00:42:52.134 --> 00:42:52.594
Let me know.

00:42:52.594 --> 00:42:54.550
Yeah, Inquiring minds want to know.

00:42:54.786 --> 00:43:14.300
So these two men were just digging out canoes through enemy waters, they were barefoot, they were dodging patrol boats Right Doing casual war hero stuff and jack called out and he's like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the can you say that one more time?

00:43:14.300 --> 00:43:23.018
Holy shit jack called out and the islanders were like is he friend or is he foe?

00:43:23.018 --> 00:43:25.608
We don't know.

00:43:25.608 --> 00:43:27.153
Well, how would they?

00:43:27.153 --> 00:43:29.251
Let's be real, we're going to bail.

00:43:29.251 --> 00:43:31.652
Everyone looks sketchy.

00:43:31.652 --> 00:43:36.077
We're just going to bolt right Full paddle, full paddle, full paddle.

00:43:36.585 --> 00:43:37.610
Is it like full throttle?

00:43:39.407 --> 00:43:47.211
Okay, that night Jack took the canoe, the one-man canoe, and made yet another solo attempt through the.

00:43:47.211 --> 00:43:49.876
Ferguson Passage looking for an American PT boat.

00:43:49.876 --> 00:43:51.579
Still no luck, of course.

00:43:51.579 --> 00:44:00.159
So he decided to head back to Olisana Island, so not Nauru, where Ross is, where the Islanders were.

00:44:00.925 --> 00:44:04.096
It's just him and Ross with the Islanders.

00:44:04.096 --> 00:44:06.893
And the rest are still back at Anaru.

00:44:07.896 --> 00:44:09.728
No, anaru.

00:44:09.728 --> 00:44:12.315
I know it is confusing because there's a lot of islands.

00:44:12.315 --> 00:44:15.233
All the crew is back on Olisana.

00:44:15.795 --> 00:44:22.170
Okay, ross and Jackie Boy went to Anaru, and that's where they found the two Islanders who bolted.

00:44:22.170 --> 00:44:22.650
Okay, okay, okay, I got it.

00:44:22.650 --> 00:44:24.170
Jackie Boy then went into the Ferguson Passage, didn't see anything.

00:44:24.190 --> 00:44:25.811
Went to Nauru and that's where they found the two islanders who bolted.

00:44:25.811 --> 00:44:28.514
Okay, okay, okay, I got it, jackie Boy, then went into the Ferguson Passage, didn't see anything.

00:44:28.514 --> 00:44:31.597
Then he went back to Olasana, where the crew is.

00:44:31.617 --> 00:44:32.978
So did he just leave Ross on.

00:44:33.579 --> 00:44:34.079
He did.

00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:34.980
Why.

00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:38.742
It was all like Planned it was all well and good yeah.

00:44:39.304 --> 00:44:41.507
That still seems kind of like a dicky thing to do.

00:44:41.628 --> 00:44:49.880
But on the way he went to Nuru he grabbed the can, he grabbed the water stash and he brought all of that to the crew Did he bring the candy.

00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:51.208
And Olasana yes.

00:44:51.949 --> 00:44:52.751
What kind of candy was it?

00:44:53.775 --> 00:44:58.311
I don't know, so much island hopping.

00:44:58.311 --> 00:45:04.878
So when Drac got back to Olasana, surprise these two islanders were there.

00:45:05.646 --> 00:45:07.432
How'd they get there without their one-man canoe?

00:45:08.326 --> 00:45:09.625
How did the two islanders get there?

00:45:09.625 --> 00:45:13.612
So there was a canoe on the island that Jackie Boy had Stole.

00:45:14.193 --> 00:45:14.434
Yes.

00:45:15.135 --> 00:45:15.755
He stole it.

00:45:15.755 --> 00:45:22.391
The islanders had their own.

00:45:23.666 --> 00:45:24.833
So it wasn't their canoe.

00:45:24.934 --> 00:45:25.356
Correct.

00:45:25.356 --> 00:45:30.050
So the Islanders bolted, which makes sense because Jackie Boy stole a one-person canoe.

00:45:30.572 --> 00:45:31.253
There was two of them.

00:45:31.875 --> 00:45:34.518
Yes, couldn't be theirs, so they had their own Sheer numbers.

00:45:34.518 --> 00:45:41.639
So the two Islanders went to Olisana because they were looking for coconuts.

00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:51.291
They wanted food, and Jackie Boy was like I'm going to pick up all this candy and this fresh fruit and I'm going to move from Nauru to Olisana.

00:45:51.291 --> 00:45:53.954
And that's where they all met again.

00:45:53.954 --> 00:46:03.360
Turns out, the two islanders were cool Byuku Byuku, byuku Gasa.

00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:16.858
Byuku Gasauku Gasa age 20 oh, pretty young and Aroni Kumanana, ku Kum Kuman Kumana Kumana, there we go don't these sound like very Hawaiian-ish names?

00:46:16.878 --> 00:46:17.384
they kind of do.

00:46:17.384 --> 00:46:23.592
I mean, I'm not like trying to be like weird about it yeah, they kind of do they remind me of Byuku Gasa and trying to be like weird about it.

00:46:23.612 --> 00:46:24.016
Yeah, they kind of do.

00:46:24.016 --> 00:46:29.351
They remind me of biuku gaza gaza and erone kumana, who is age 18 so 2018.

00:46:29.351 --> 00:46:33.717
They were native scouts working for the allies.

00:46:33.717 --> 00:46:35.420
No shit, yes.

00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:42.416
So kumana himself recalled years later, at um the moment, that he met the survivors, the crew.

00:46:42.416 --> 00:46:47.753
Yeah, he said, quote some of them cried, some of them came and shook our hands.

00:46:47.753 --> 00:46:51.494
When Jack saw us, he ran and embraced us.

00:46:53.726 --> 00:46:57.369
How did they learn that they were allies, though Did they speak English?

00:46:58.625 --> 00:47:00.371
Not, I mean maybe a little bit.

00:47:00.572 --> 00:47:04.371
Okay, but not a whole lot Enough to communicate something.

00:47:04.391 --> 00:47:05.034
Yeah, something.

00:47:05.425 --> 00:47:07.092
Because they were obviously able to communicate.

00:47:07.132 --> 00:47:09.309
Yes, yes, but it wasn't a lot of English.

00:47:09.309 --> 00:47:10.132
I can tell you that.

00:47:11.094 --> 00:47:11.755
Believe you me.

00:47:11.945 --> 00:47:23.193
So the two fled Nauru quickly from Jack and Ross and stopped at Olasana because they were worn out and thirsty and they stopped for coconuts and that's when they ran into the rest of the crew.

00:47:23.784 --> 00:47:24.045
Gotcha.

00:47:24.306 --> 00:47:35.655
So they're like hey, these people aren't japanese, they're very tired, very sunburned and very american very white yeah, very white, very white, but sunburned, yeah.

00:47:35.655 --> 00:47:54.844
So the next morning, on august 6th, jack returned to naru with gaza, gaza and Kumana, and bummed into Ross who happened to be swimming back to Olisana Holy fuck, I know he was like I'm sick of like staying here by myself.

00:47:54.905 --> 00:47:57.032
I don't want to wait no more, I'm going to go back.

00:47:57.445 --> 00:47:57.788
Holy shit.

00:47:57.788 --> 00:48:00.751
So they like picked him up and they're like hold on, dude, dude, we got you.

00:48:01.005 --> 00:48:03.088
Because holy fuck so much swimming.

00:48:03.449 --> 00:48:05.070
Yes, there's a lot of swimming, oh my God.

00:48:05.070 --> 00:48:08.135
So Jack didn't know how to get a message out.

00:48:08.135 --> 00:48:10.599
Sure, but Gaza had an idea.

00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.706
Okay, okay, he's the 20-year-old.

00:48:13.706 --> 00:48:17.954
Scratch it into a green Can Coconut.

00:48:18.635 --> 00:48:20.438
Oh, why a green one?

00:48:22.106 --> 00:48:27.365
I don't know, because that?

00:48:27.365 --> 00:48:27.706
Why a green one?

00:48:27.706 --> 00:48:30.333
I don't know, because that's what's available.

00:48:30.333 --> 00:48:31.054
There was no brown ones available.

00:48:31.054 --> 00:48:31.134
Why?

00:48:31.134 --> 00:48:33.018
Why the questions hey?

00:48:35.806 --> 00:48:38.449
I'm here to ask well, what do they say on?

00:48:38.449 --> 00:48:40.610
Like new, we asked the tough questions.

00:48:40.610 --> 00:48:45.255
Fucking local news commercials are the worst Fucking dumb.

00:48:45.255 --> 00:48:46.376
Okay, anyways.

00:48:47.135 --> 00:48:50.418
So Jack decided yes, green coconut.

00:48:50.798 --> 00:48:51.860
Green coconut.

00:48:52.221 --> 00:48:53.922
First tropical text message ever.

00:48:56.905 --> 00:49:00.409
Tropical text message and do you have exactly what it said?

00:49:00.409 --> 00:49:02.152
Yes, okay, thank God.

00:49:02.313 --> 00:49:08.407
It says Nauru ISL, so Nauru Island Can't hear.

00:49:08.407 --> 00:49:11.052
Commander Native knows.

00:49:12.173 --> 00:49:12.974
Native knows.

00:49:13.195 --> 00:49:14.958
Yeah, let me just say it from start to finish here.

00:49:14.978 --> 00:49:15.219
Okay.

00:49:16.385 --> 00:49:20.934
Nauru ISL Commander Native knows, post it.

00:49:20.934 --> 00:49:23.438
He can pilot 11 alive.

00:49:23.438 --> 00:49:25.373
Needs small boat jack.

00:49:25.373 --> 00:49:27.302
That's what it said.

00:49:27.302 --> 00:49:27.905
Why didn't it?

00:49:27.905 --> 00:49:35.094
Say jackie boy so naru island, where we are.

00:49:35.094 --> 00:49:43.114
We're on the island of naru got that commander, this is for a commanding officer, someone in charge, this, this is for you.

00:49:43.114 --> 00:49:46.250
Sure, native knows post-it.

00:49:46.250 --> 00:49:51.951
The island excuse me, the islanders know our exact location.

00:49:52.724 --> 00:49:54.452
That's what that means those two do.

00:49:54.704 --> 00:49:56.311
but are they exactly islanders?

00:49:56.311 --> 00:49:57.610
He can pilot.

00:49:58.144 --> 00:49:58.547
Who can?

00:49:59.731 --> 00:50:00.434
That was the message.

00:50:00.434 --> 00:50:04.733
He can pilot, meaning islanders can guide a rescue boat here.

00:50:04.733 --> 00:50:07.329
Okay 11 alive.

00:50:07.329 --> 00:50:10.507
There are 11 survivals total With Jackie.

00:50:10.507 --> 00:50:11.351
Boy, number 12.

00:50:11.351 --> 00:50:13.409
Need small boat.

00:50:13.409 --> 00:50:19.476
I thought two died, 12 were on this island.

00:50:22.306 --> 00:50:24.351
Because you got the two other guys that showed up.

00:50:24.371 --> 00:50:30.130
Yeah, yeah neat small boat, send some, aka send something small to pick us up.

00:50:30.130 --> 00:50:34.929
Big ships can't get through the reefs because these islands are actually full of reefs around them.

00:50:34.929 --> 00:50:58.094
They're super close, super yeah, if you look on google maps oh, I'm good right now you can see like how much shallow the waters are up to a point, the depth in the water and then Jack sign, Jack okay that was his message.

00:50:59.530 --> 00:51:01.429
I feel like he should have been dad send help.

00:51:03.851 --> 00:51:05.416
I need your help, daddy.

00:51:05.416 --> 00:51:12.699
Okay, so then Gassa and Kumana paddled 35 miles 35?

00:51:12.699 --> 00:51:22.519
, holy fuck Across shark-infested Japanese patrolled waters in a dugout canoe with nothing but guts, paddles and coconut mail.

00:51:23.186 --> 00:51:24.449
How many knots were they going?

00:51:26.594 --> 00:51:27.978
Bradley Kate.

00:51:27.978 --> 00:51:35.913
Okay, we're talking about 35 miles in a wooden canoe during wartime.

00:51:36.135 --> 00:51:37.490
That's fucking insane.

00:51:38.016 --> 00:51:39.648
And they're working for the Allies.

00:51:39.869 --> 00:51:43.329
I don't want to go 3.5 miles, let alone 35 miles in a canoe Holy balls.

00:51:43.329 --> 00:51:45.608
Although I would, let alone 35 miles in a canoe Holy balls.

00:51:45.608 --> 00:51:47.951
Although I would like to take Xavier in a canoe, that'd be fun.

00:51:49.469 --> 00:51:54.670
So the Japanese were notorious for using the locals as target practice, because that was rude.

00:51:54.670 --> 00:52:02.465
That was rude, and if they had been caught with such a message on the coconut, it could have been a death sentence, essentially.

00:52:02.989 --> 00:52:03.231
Right.

00:52:03.635 --> 00:52:13.728
So, still desperate for rescue, jaguar insisted on taking Ross back into the Ferguson Passage in their rickety two-man canoe.

00:52:13.728 --> 00:52:16.373
But rough seas kind of did them in.

00:52:16.373 --> 00:52:19.550
The canoe got swamped and the two were beaten up by the waves.

00:52:19.550 --> 00:52:31.498
And they barely made it back to Nauru Island, which is the one closest to the straight the passage bail, bail out of the canoe, or did they make it back with the canoe?

00:52:31.885 --> 00:52:47.831
they made it back with the canoe, but they bailed with the canoe, sure no, I get it so the next morning, august 7th, august 7th yes, eight islanders showed up on Nauru just after Jackie Boy and Ross woke up.

00:52:49.061 --> 00:52:52.885
Okay friendly or foe friendly, friendly, friendly.

00:52:53.126 --> 00:52:59.016
They came with food and a message from Lieutenant A Reginald Evans.

00:52:59.016 --> 00:53:07.836
Reginald Evans okay an allied coast watcher that was hidden nearby who had received the coconut message.

00:53:07.836 --> 00:53:25.358
So how close nearby was he he was in a very large island, but still small comparatively so let me get this straight though they carve all this into a coconut and they just go here water no, they.

00:53:25.438 --> 00:53:28.530
They sent it off with gaza and kumanu.

00:53:28.530 --> 00:53:30.675
Oh, and gaza and kumanu.

00:53:30.675 --> 00:53:36.717
I didn't put that together for some reason oh, okay, okay okay I guess now that you bring that up.

00:53:36.778 --> 00:53:41.572
Yes, you did say that on my apologies, because it's like message in a bottle.

00:53:41.612 --> 00:53:42.273
Where's it gonna end up?

00:53:42.293 --> 00:53:55.938
yeah, that's what I was just gonna say message in a bottle, but it's like they took it straight to some like an allied base where they knew so, because those two knew the area better than, obviously, the survivors of the pt boat.

00:53:55.938 --> 00:53:57.907
Take this with you.

00:53:57.907 --> 00:53:59.931
Yes, find what you can.

00:53:59.931 --> 00:54:01.052
Yes, ally.

00:54:01.052 --> 00:54:03.177
Yes so thank you for helping us.

00:54:03.177 --> 00:54:05.019
Okay, yes, yes, yes, I got you.

00:54:05.465 --> 00:54:09.663
So the message was received by Lieutenant Reginald Evans.

00:54:10.023 --> 00:54:10.204
Right.

00:54:10.505 --> 00:54:17.271
He was an allied coast watcher nearby in a larger island Right Off the Blackett Strait.

00:54:17.271 --> 00:54:18.333
Blackett Strait.

00:54:18.373 --> 00:54:18.695
Okay.

00:54:19.224 --> 00:54:21.947
And he coordinated a rescue.

00:54:21.947 --> 00:54:27.271
So after a quick stop on Olasana, so like the middle.

00:54:27.271 --> 00:54:31.655
So there was a Plum Island, Olasana, and then Nauru, so Olasana is the middle one where the crew is.

00:54:31.675 --> 00:54:33.817
Let's not cut down Plum Pudding Island.

00:54:33.817 --> 00:54:35.079
You called it Plum.

00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:36.280
Let's get its full name.

00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.827
It deserves to be shouted from the rooftops Plum Pudding.

00:54:40.847 --> 00:54:45.869
So after a quick stop at lasagna to deliver crew for the rest, or deliver food to the rest of the crew.

00:54:45.869 --> 00:55:07.739
Yes, the islanders hid jackie boy under the pile, a pile of palms why, like a covert all op and paddled him across the blackett straight to gamu island gamu now yes I looked up gamu island, okay, and the only reference I could find was that it was in anime.

00:55:08.846 --> 00:55:10.773
Like Japanese anime yeah.

00:55:11.565 --> 00:55:13.148
So it is not.

00:55:13.148 --> 00:55:14.510
It doesn't have.

00:55:14.510 --> 00:55:19.871
There's no island in the Solomon Islands called Gamu uh Gomu Island.

00:55:19.891 --> 00:55:20.213
Okay.

00:55:20.746 --> 00:55:28.474
But upon further research, it's just like this little, tiny blip of an island that's not even named on google earth.

00:55:28.815 --> 00:55:50.001
Gotcha, it's not even named, okay so maybe it was uh just given that name once new as gamu island, or either way, yeah, that's fine so, after six days after PT-109 was sunk, jack finally set foot on GAMU to meet with Lieutenant Evans.

00:55:50.001 --> 00:55:50.641
Okay.

00:55:50.661 --> 00:55:59.730
Okay, the rescue still had to be arranged, but at least the worst is over essentially it was in process.

00:55:59.789 --> 00:56:01.355
Basically, yeah, okay, yeah.

00:56:02.085 --> 00:56:11.416
So Lieutenant Evans had already reported the survival of the PT-109 crew to his commander, who planned to send a rescue team directly to Olisana Island.

00:56:11.436 --> 00:56:11.536
Right.

00:56:13.288 --> 00:56:18.579
But Jack wanted to be picked up first and help guide their way to Olisana.

00:56:18.625 --> 00:56:23.342
He wanted to be part of the rescue mission, or did he just want to be picked up first I'm just saying I'm kidding to be part of the rescue mission, or did he just want to be picked up first?

00:56:23.342 --> 00:56:24.545
I'm just saying I'm kidding.

00:56:24.565 --> 00:56:32.099
So late on the night of august 7th, pt-157 and pt-171 arrived at the rendezvous point.

00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:36.516
They were supposed to exchange a signal for gunshots.

00:56:36.516 --> 00:56:44.717
Jackie boy's revolver only had three bullets left, so he literally had to borrow a rifle from evans.

00:56:47.230 --> 00:56:50.817
I mean jesus christ, that's give me another one, give me another one shit.

00:56:50.817 --> 00:56:53.007
I said four, I need another gun.

00:56:53.367 --> 00:57:03.253
Stat so he got this um rifle from evans for the fourth shot, but he wasn't expecting the kickback and he like fell into like, fell into the ocean.

00:57:03.494 --> 00:57:04.896
He fell into the ocean.

00:57:04.916 --> 00:57:05.759
He fell into the ocean.

00:57:05.759 --> 00:57:09.494
He was fucking annoyed and irritated, can?

00:57:09.514 --> 00:57:10.077
you blame him.

00:57:10.077 --> 00:57:12.083
Holy shit, that's funny.

00:57:12.326 --> 00:57:21.161
But he finally boarded the PT-157 to approach Olasana in the early hours of August 8th.

00:57:21.161 --> 00:57:22.987
Okay, okay so.

00:57:22.987 --> 00:57:25.699
Pt-109, early hours of august 8th.

00:57:25.699 --> 00:57:26.565
They're all asleep.

00:57:26.565 --> 00:57:40.516
Jack started yelling to wake them up yeah and they didn't exactly thrill the rescue team because they're like no shit, jack, shut the fuck up.

00:57:40.516 --> 00:57:42.099
There's Japanese around.

00:57:42.099 --> 00:57:43.001
Stop yelling.

00:57:43.623 --> 00:57:45.891
I just thought, oh, I'm tired man, don't wake us up.

00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:50.432
So luckily, the rescue went off Without a hitch.

00:57:50.432 --> 00:58:03.150
By 5.30am the men were safely back At the US base On Rendova Island, which is approximately 37 miles southeast Of where they were At Olisana Island.

00:58:03.150 --> 00:58:05.844
Wow, okay, so it's an even bigger island.

00:58:06.545 --> 00:58:17.114
Like I said, many a lot, a lot of islands, obviously some small, some bigger, of course, island chain if you yes, yes, exactly, okay, did you have a question?

00:58:17.114 --> 00:58:27.228
No, without a hitch idiom yes all right, let's do it good job, not right now, but yeah, let's do it so what happened to jackie boy after the rescue?

00:58:27.228 --> 00:58:35.414
I'm curious to find out, because you're you promised I would know why his name is jackie boy he didn't go home he didn't cash in.

00:58:36.235 --> 00:58:42.873
He got patched up, grabbed a fresh boat and went back out on patrol good for him, him Back and all.

00:58:42.873 --> 00:58:45.458
And that was just who Jack was.

00:58:47.349 --> 00:58:49.824
He just wanted to be, he was the American man.

00:58:49.824 --> 00:59:11.684
He wanted to be something for his country and even though he had some issues that technically should have held him back, he's like fuck that man no, he's a hero well, I mean, yeah, he was a little battered, a little bruised he was scoliosis kind of held together with stubbornness and seawater and band-aids either way, yeah but he was like I'm still kicking.

00:59:11.704 --> 00:59:22.307
I got this, bro, let's keep fighting yeah yeah, yeah, and that's exactly what happened, um, but his body actually gave out before his will did, oh dear.

00:59:22.307 --> 00:59:37.583
He was sent back to the us, where his back pain became a lifelong battle well, I mean, seemed to be already lifelong, but yeah, okay and his story of the coconut carving crew saving island hopping.

00:59:37.583 --> 00:59:46.559
You know, marathon Swimming epic Started to take on a line of its own Life of its own, not a line of its own.

00:59:47.702 --> 00:59:49.574
How many fucking miles did he?

00:59:49.594 --> 00:59:51.001
swim, jesus Christ.

00:59:51.001 --> 00:59:52.514
That's just impressive.

00:59:53.318 --> 00:59:58.465
Seriously, I mean, I applaud you, jackie boy.

00:59:58.465 --> 01:00:01.920
I could not even fucking fathom, holy shit.

01:00:02.355 --> 01:00:06.164
So a journalist from the Reader's Digest?

01:00:06.204 --> 01:00:06.847
Not the Reader's.

01:00:07.235 --> 01:00:09.463
John Hershey wrote it up.

01:00:09.623 --> 01:00:10.565
Was he from Pennsylvania?

01:00:10.565 --> 01:00:11.748
I don't know.

01:00:12.661 --> 01:00:13.813
I know Hershey chocolate.

01:00:13.813 --> 01:00:23.724
Jack was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Medal for his courage and leadership and a purple heart for his injuries and leadership that a boy, Jackie boy, and a Purple Heart for his injuries.

01:00:23.724 --> 01:00:24.255
Well.

01:00:24.918 --> 01:00:28.480
I mean his back was already injured, Additional injuries.

01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:29.844
Jesus Christ, Calm down.

01:00:29.914 --> 01:00:39.574
But he was also somewhat a little self-deprecating because people called him a hero Right and people would ask him how did you become a war hero?

01:00:39.574 --> 01:00:46.579
And his response would always be quote it was involuntary, they sank my boat end.

01:00:46.579 --> 01:00:53.117
Quote he's not brilliant, he's not wrong, it was involuntary, they sank my boat.

01:00:53.157 --> 01:00:53.577
He didn't.

01:00:53.577 --> 01:01:03.695
I mean I'm not saying he didn't want to become a hero, he was doing what he was supposed to do and that's what he's saying there, which is pretty fantastic, because there's a lot of people that'd be like yes.

01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:05.342
I did this.

01:01:05.534 --> 01:01:14.005
Look at me and my heroism Right, but he just was doing what he was supposed to do and he adapted to what happened to him, and so on.

01:01:14.494 --> 01:01:18.740
And Jackie Boy never bragged about it but his crew bragged about him.

01:01:19.041 --> 01:01:19.603
Which is awesome.

01:01:19.603 --> 01:01:26.844
Yes, and that shows you a sign of actually a good leader, right leadership when no one is fucking watching.

01:01:26.844 --> 01:01:33.215
Yeah that's who jackie boy was he did what he was supposed to do, even though, again, he was not supposed to fucking be there.

01:01:33.215 --> 01:01:36.659
And, yes, he got help from daddy he.

01:01:36.659 --> 01:01:38.963
He proved that he should have been there.

01:01:38.963 --> 01:01:41.286
Yes, by his actions.

01:01:42.067 --> 01:01:44.570
So who was Jackie Boy?

01:01:44.994 --> 01:01:48.264
He was the captain of PT-109.

01:01:49.106 --> 01:01:52.038
Score John F Kennedy.

01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:52.820
Yeah.

01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:54.923
You knew that I knew it.

01:01:54.923 --> 01:02:01.262
You fucker, you fucker, are you fucking kidding me?

01:02:01.503 --> 01:02:02.226
Nope.

01:02:02.735 --> 01:02:04.081
That's so fucking rude.

01:02:04.081 --> 01:02:06.123
I thought I had you the whole time.

01:02:06.454 --> 01:02:09.382
No, so it took me a minute.

01:02:10.184 --> 01:02:10.547
How?

01:02:10.547 --> 01:02:11.880
What gave it away?

01:02:12.596 --> 01:02:16.987
I knew he was marooned or whatever you want to fucking call it.

01:02:17.195 --> 01:02:19.282
I had no idea he was marooned.

01:02:19.302 --> 01:02:20.264
You never knew that about him.

01:02:20.324 --> 01:02:21.835
No, want to fucking call it.

01:02:21.835 --> 01:02:22.657
I had no idea he was marooned.

01:02:22.657 --> 01:02:23.278
You never knew that about him.

01:02:23.278 --> 01:02:27.407
No, recently I read the kennedy men or something yeah, because we did.

01:02:27.407 --> 01:02:29.010
We had mentioned that.

01:02:29.010 --> 01:02:30.675
Oh so fucking rude.

01:02:30.675 --> 01:02:32.079
We did the uh.

01:02:32.340 --> 01:02:45.344
Fake it next time, will you we did the rosemary kennedy lobotomy a while back and you wanted you had mentioned how you wanted to basically listen, to read up on whatever you want to call it.

01:02:45.344 --> 01:02:53.938
Uh, more, more of them, because some of them were, well, quite douchey oh my gosh, his father is douchey joe, right joe is so douchey.

01:02:53.938 --> 01:03:04.346
Um, but no that, john, jackie boy, I'm so upset that you knew.

01:03:04.346 --> 01:03:06.427
It took me a minute.

01:03:07.086 --> 01:03:15.152
I thought I did well, no, you did very good, and the more you went on about it, I'm like World War II, jackie.

01:03:15.152 --> 01:03:18.882
I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure I know what this is.

01:03:20.088 --> 01:03:20.831
Son of a bitch.

01:03:20.956 --> 01:03:22.195
It's a great story, nonetheless.

01:03:23.438 --> 01:03:26.085
But great job knowing yeah, because I wouldn't have.

01:03:26.085 --> 01:03:34.284
I did not know this was a thing until I read that book, so you never heard that he was basically stranded before Never Okay.

01:03:34.505 --> 01:03:35.827
Yeah, so good on you.

01:03:35.827 --> 01:03:39.536
That's fantastic, but yes, jackie Boy is future president John F Kennedy.

01:03:39.536 --> 01:03:41.978
Yep, he was the Fantastic, but yes, jackie Boy is president, future president John F Kennedy.

01:03:41.978 --> 01:03:47.603
He was the 35th president of the United States, once paddled under a canoe.

01:03:47.603 --> 01:03:59.311
On a canoe, under palm ate, half-rotten coconuts carved an SOS message into a green coconut husk to save his men.

01:03:59.311 --> 01:04:04.277
I never knew he had scoliosis before he actually men.

01:04:04.277 --> 01:04:05.318
I never knew he had scoliosis before he actually.

01:04:05.318 --> 01:04:05.880
Yes, so he had scoliosis.

01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:18.583
He also had addison's disease, but when he was playing football in like high school, I believe it was, he was either high school or college he injured his back even more so it what's the word I'm looking for?

01:04:19.786 --> 01:04:27.974
it expanded his injury it escalated, so that coconut is it in a museum?

01:04:28.858 --> 01:04:40.795
yes, it was cased in resin oh really and the underside of it is cased in wood, so it's like wood with resin over the coconut, and it sat on his oval office desk did it really?

01:04:40.795 --> 01:04:42.496
The entire time he was president?

01:04:42.556 --> 01:04:43.077
oh, that's cool.

01:04:43.077 --> 01:04:56.141
Yeah, he should have been president for four more years until some ci operative or whatever conspiracy you want to go with shot him so yep, yep yeah it's honestly probably one of the wildest how I got here stories.

01:04:56.141 --> 01:05:03.666
Oh my god yeah, because I mean, obviously, after that he went into politics and you know he wasn't just I'm going to go for president.

01:05:03.666 --> 01:05:05.342
He was things prior to that.

01:05:06.123 --> 01:05:08.581
He was conditioned to do that by his father.

01:05:08.762 --> 01:05:18.346
Well, joe, he wanted his children to have a political career, obviously, and he steered him in that direction.

01:05:18.425 --> 01:05:25.518
I guess you would say but no, steered him in that direction.

01:05:25.518 --> 01:05:36.936
I guess we'll say but um, no, he I mean again, I am not well versed on all the presidents of the united states of america, but I think he was a pretty good president from what I remember and what I've read and I'm not again, I'm not extensive on his, what, everything he did, but you know, it's really too bad.

01:05:36.936 --> 01:05:49.793
It would have been nice to see what he could have done with another four years but supposedly a lot of people didn't like that, so so byuku gaza and aroni kumana

01:05:49.974 --> 01:05:54.443
yeah they were actually invited to jfk's inauguration, oh really.

01:05:54.443 --> 01:06:01.059
But some fucking british official was like you don't speak enough english, oh fuck you, fuck you To go British.

01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:02.681
What the?

01:06:02.862 --> 01:06:03.242
fuck.

01:06:03.242 --> 01:06:04.164
So they didn't get to go.

01:06:04.304 --> 01:06:11.960
Why did a British official get to fucking determine that I don't know what the fuck, what's his name?

01:06:12.260 --> 01:06:17.302
I know you didn't know Jackass In 2002.

01:06:17.583 --> 01:06:17.784
Yes.

01:06:18.735 --> 01:06:30.811
Max Kennedy, son of Robert Kennedy and nephew of JFK, traveled to the Solomon Islands and met both Gaza and Kumana.

01:06:31.512 --> 01:06:32.253
They were still alive.

01:06:32.432 --> 01:06:33.434
They were still alive.

01:06:33.454 --> 01:06:33.894
What year was this?

01:06:33.934 --> 01:06:35.833
Nearly 60 years later.

01:06:36.056 --> 01:06:37.521
Oh, so early 2000.

01:06:38.018 --> 01:06:39.811
It was 2002 when they went 2002.

01:06:39.871 --> 01:06:39.992
Shit.

01:06:40.576 --> 01:06:43.956
When Gaza and Kumanaana saw max, they broke down into tears.

01:06:44.358 --> 01:06:47.103
It's they're very open islanders.

01:06:47.143 --> 01:06:55.903
They're very like emotional and they broke down into tears and they all just had like no speeches, they were just hugs and emotion.

01:06:55.903 --> 01:07:02.673
That's so cool, I know, and almost a little bit like closure for these men.

01:07:03.255 --> 01:07:03.414
Right.

01:07:03.635 --> 01:07:09.628
But Byuku Gaza passed away on November 23rd 2005.

01:07:09.628 --> 01:07:20.224
At the age of 82, just one day after the 42nd anniversary of JFK's assassination, I was going to say that's very close, so okay.

01:07:20.224 --> 01:07:31.018
And Aronu Kumana died on August 2nd 2014 at the age of 93 at his home in Western Province of the Solomon Islands.

01:07:31.378 --> 01:07:34.516
Before I forget, there's nothing to do with this story.

01:07:34.958 --> 01:07:35.922
Can I end the story?

01:07:36.074 --> 01:07:36.378
I'm sorry.

01:07:37.103 --> 01:07:43.443
That is the story of Jackie Boy and JFK and the PT one on nine.

01:07:43.443 --> 01:07:44.625
Okay, now you can go.

01:07:44.786 --> 01:07:46.208
Congratulations, jackie boy.

01:07:46.208 --> 01:07:56.465
You did good, good things, good things, yeah, I don't remember so being this a world war two story.

01:07:56.965 --> 01:07:57.186
Yes.

01:07:57.186 --> 01:08:00.222
I can't resist sometimes.

01:08:00.443 --> 01:08:04.835
No, and that's fine, I like them.

01:08:04.856 --> 01:08:08.204
I just don't want every story to be world war ii, that's all I'm saying I know I went.

01:08:08.224 --> 01:08:13.405
I mentioned earlier that I went to the brewers game on wednesday yes there was.

01:08:13.405 --> 01:08:18.942
They like to bring up a military person and honor them yeah world war ii guy.

01:08:18.942 --> 01:08:23.637
Yeah, he just celebrated his 100th birthday, not that long before.

01:08:23.637 --> 01:08:30.242
Amazing, so he would have been, if I remember right, because well, 100 years ago, 25 he was 18.

01:08:30.242 --> 01:08:39.259
I don't remember his ah, damn it, I don't remember his rank anymore, but um, but yeah, so they honored a world war ii guy at the brewers game on Wednesday.

01:08:39.698 --> 01:08:40.539
That's awesome.

01:08:40.699 --> 01:08:41.000
Yeah.

01:08:41.841 --> 01:08:45.423
So we actually read a book.

01:08:45.423 --> 01:08:47.006
I listened to a book.

01:08:47.006 --> 01:08:50.229
You listened to the book, yeah it was super fucking good.

01:08:50.229 --> 01:08:53.032
Yeah, and it's a World War II novel.

01:08:58.074 --> 01:08:59.177
They characterized it as a narrative nonfiction novel.

01:08:59.177 --> 01:09:02.905
So it's real, but real, but as read, as a story kind of fashion.

01:09:03.006 --> 01:09:05.622
It's so good, so I do want to give a shout out to this.

01:09:05.622 --> 01:09:10.243
It's called tailspin and it is by John Armbruster.

01:09:10.564 --> 01:09:10.765
Yeah.

01:09:11.686 --> 01:09:19.503
And um, on Goodreads it's a 4.7 out of five and on Amazon it's a 4.8 out of five.

01:09:20.095 --> 01:09:20.578
And the cool.

01:09:20.618 --> 01:09:22.182
Thing is Great, great book.

01:09:22.222 --> 01:09:25.997
It was a great book, it was a good listen, honestly.

01:09:25.997 --> 01:09:28.023
Well, you had told me about it.

01:09:28.023 --> 01:09:29.025
You had already started it.

01:09:29.025 --> 01:09:30.983
Like, hey, I started this book, you might like it too.

01:09:30.983 --> 01:09:39.596
So I started it and I'm like, with what I do for work, I am able to listen to podcasts and books and stuff all the time.

01:09:39.596 --> 01:09:40.818
So she told me about it.

01:09:40.818 --> 01:09:44.362
I started it on a Monday and she's like, how are you liking the book?

01:09:44.362 --> 01:09:46.864
I'm like, oh, really good, where are you at Chapter 14.

01:09:46.864 --> 01:09:48.326
Like, holy shit, I'm only on seven.

01:09:48.726 --> 01:09:53.251
So like I blew past her on it, but I get to listen to it more often than she can with what she?

01:09:53.251 --> 01:09:53.452
Does.

01:09:53.452 --> 01:10:02.377
But one of the cool things I mean I'm born and raised.

01:10:02.377 --> 01:10:03.921
Kate lives here now but the cool thing is is the author's from Wisconsin.

01:10:03.921 --> 01:10:05.685
The the person he wrote it after is from Wisconsin.

01:10:05.685 --> 01:10:11.182
There's other people that he met throughout this journey that are from Wisconsin that are mentioned.

01:10:11.182 --> 01:10:12.185
So it was.

01:10:12.185 --> 01:10:13.395
It was really well written.

01:10:13.395 --> 01:10:14.417
It was really cool.

01:10:14.417 --> 01:10:16.884
Um, I rather enjoyed that book.

01:10:16.984 --> 01:10:18.488
That was one of the better books I've.

01:10:18.715 --> 01:10:22.282
I've listened to read whatever you want to call it in the in the recent past.

01:10:22.282 --> 01:10:24.145
It was really, really, really good.

01:10:24.886 --> 01:10:36.121
And um me coming up with this um story about JFK and being marooned on this Island came from the book the Kennedy men 1901 to 1963.

01:10:36.121 --> 01:10:42.451
So it's literally about Joe Joe Jr, jfk Ted.

01:10:42.876 --> 01:10:43.918
Was it a little bit of Robert?

01:10:44.641 --> 01:10:46.560
Robert, it's about all of them.

01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.182
I don't think I actually finished it because it started getting boring.

01:10:49.182 --> 01:10:59.619
No offense, but I first heard about this story through that book, so it was by.

01:10:59.619 --> 01:11:11.103
I closed it down before I even said lawrence lemur l-e-a-m-e-r lawrence lemur that was the book well, yeah, I.

01:11:11.262 --> 01:11:12.626
I like the story good.

01:11:12.626 --> 01:11:16.880
I'm sorry that I did guess it was it's okay.

01:11:17.100 --> 01:11:20.545
I guarantee you some of our listeners will not know until the end.

01:11:20.765 --> 01:11:25.497
Well, good old Jackie boy, Jackie boy Spelled B-O-Y-E.

01:11:25.537 --> 01:11:26.899
Boy, what's up?

01:11:26.899 --> 01:11:30.680
Boy, I just came up with that.

01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.384
I was like, how can I just not make it just Jack?

01:11:34.216 --> 01:11:36.694
Yeah, that was weak I was going to say.

01:11:36.694 --> 01:11:42.320
But no, that book Tailspin, give it a listen, Read if you are so inclined.

01:11:42.320 --> 01:11:46.069
Oh my gosh it's so great it was written very well for a first-time author.

01:11:46.069 --> 01:11:48.942
Yeah, he goes over that in the book.

01:11:49.114 --> 01:11:59.984
He's a history teacher in high school in rural Wisconsin and he really did not get out of the park with that book he did fantastic.

01:11:59.984 --> 01:12:02.564
Hey look, another idiom not get out of the park with that boat.

01:12:02.585 --> 01:12:03.872
He did fantastic hey look another idiom not get out of the park.

01:12:03.872 --> 01:12:05.538
Hey, hi-yo, it's very baseball related.

01:12:05.538 --> 01:12:07.283
Yeah, go Brewers.

01:12:07.604 --> 01:12:08.086
You too.

01:12:08.454 --> 01:12:12.123
Yeah, so, anyways, hope you guys enjoyed the episode.

01:12:12.123 --> 01:12:14.128
Yeah, well, I suppose.

01:12:14.128 --> 01:12:16.663
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