Sept. 1, 2025

Twisted Mustache Villain: Lady Jane Grey

Twisted Mustache Villain: Lady Jane Grey

Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to become a monarch overnight—against your will—only to lose everything just days later? This episode unravels the heartbreaking story of Lady Jane Grey, England's "Nine Days Queen," whose brief reign in 1553 ended in tragedy.

We dive into the chaotic political landscape following King Edward VI's death from tuberculosis at just 15 years old. As Protestant advisors feared Catholic Mary Tudor taking the throne, they orchestrated a desperate scheme to install the reluctant Jane Grey—a brilliant young scholar who could read Plato in Greek and spoke six languages—as queen instead. Despite her protests that Mary was the rightful heir, 16-year-old Jane found herself crowned queen through the machinations of ambitious men, particularly her father-in-law, the Duke of Northumberland.

The episode takes you through Jane's nine tumultuous days on the throne, Mary's triumphant march into London with growing support, and the political fallout that ultimately led to Jane's imprisonment and execution. We explore how Wyatt's Rebellion against Queen Mary's planned marriage to Philip of Spain sealed Jane's fate, despite her having no involvement in the plot. The courage Jane displayed in her final moments—blindfolding herself and asking to be "dispatched quickly"—reveals the dignity of this young woman caught in Tudor power struggles.

Along the way, we untangle the complex web of Tudor relationships, religious tensions between Catholics and Protestants, and the ruthless politics that turned a teenage intellectual into a doomed pawn. Pour yourself a German-style lager (we're enjoying one from Nebraska!) and join us for this tragic tale of the forgotten queen sandwiched between Edward VI and "Bloody Mary."

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00:00 - Episode Introduction & Cat Updates

03:16 - Beer Tasting: Zipline's Fest Beer

05:45 - Lady Jane Grey and King Edward VI

14:00 - Jane's Reluctant Coronation

22:30 - Mary Tudor Claims Her Throne

35:43 - Wyatt's Rebellion Seals Jane's Fate

43:20 - The Nine Days Queen's Execution

48:12 - Discussion of The Tudors and History

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oh, hey there oh, hey there how are you?

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I'm good.

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Why are you jiving and shucking and driving there?

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I don't know we're the the History Buffoons.

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Yes.

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And I am Bradley I am Kate.

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How are you today?

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I'm doing pretty good.

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Excellent yes, excellent yes.

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My kitty's still kicking.

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That's a plus.

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When I say kitty, I mean cat.

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He's 14.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, he's a good boy.

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He's still struggling on the eating process, but taking his pills Most of the time, most of the time, and hopefully that's helping and so on.

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Yeah.

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He's on like a thyroid medication because he's so hungry, but he's losing weight and he also is losing hair and he's on a antibiotic for the sore that's in his mouth it's under his tongue right it's under his tongue, in the soft palate, so like, yeah, like the bottom part of the soft palate.

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Yeah, I'm not sure if it's a tumor or not, so they're just giving giving him antibiotics in hopes that it's an infection.

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Well what?

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did nathan say when he took him that basically, if it was a tumor, or even if it's not, it's too hard.

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Hard to take a sample biopsy.

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Right, that's the right word.

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Yeah, because then it also could get infected again.

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Yeah, so why risk that?

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I might have to take my glasses off.

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I am fogging up already.

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Okay, holy balls this is me without glasses, and then he's also on a pain med for his sore, yeah, so To try and make it easier for him to eat basically.

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We have spent quite a bit of money.

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Some people would call it a small fortune.

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On different types of food For him to eat Just to see what he likes.

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Right.

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And we found like one of the cheapest ones that's heavy and gravy.

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He can look up the gravy.

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It's better than nothing.

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It's better than nothing.

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Yeah, no, I totally get that, because sometimes it's just hard to get them to eat when they're in pain.

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Basically, for the most part, yeah.

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So thank you to you and Xavier for the last Origin of Weird story.

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So thank you to you and Xavier for the last origin of weird story.

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I'm sorry I couldn't be a part of it, but I think that was pretty excellent.

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Well.

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I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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It was a kind of an impromptu thing, since you weren't able to record, because dealing with you know, frankie, which obviously we, we want them to get better, so it's more important.

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But I, I employed my, my, I, uh, I employed my, my son, which, and I think I said at least twice, if not maybe more, uh, I don't know if this- was a good idea.

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He was a little random at times, but what do you expect?

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He's six and mayor ruffles mayor ruffles.

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That was so super cute.

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Um, okay, so we have another beer from my parents.

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They brought from I believe it's also Seward Nebraska.

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Let me double check.

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Oh, that's right.

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Oh, it's from Lincoln, Nebraska.

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So my parents, basically born and raised in or around that area of Lincoln.

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They both went to college in Lincoln, so that is where it's from.

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It is Zipline brewing company and this is fest beer.

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It's a german style style lager and it is a 6.0 abv you know, I mean, I'm just shot in the dark here.

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You know why it's a fest beer um october, october fest.

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Yeah, yeah, okay I'm gonna crack this one open oddly enough so.

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Oh, what a quinkity.

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Cheers.

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Yeah, couldn't even say it.

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Cheers.

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Afterward the fact oh, my phone's going off my bed.

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That sounds like a you error.

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That would be a Nathan hey Nathan, hey Nathan.

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Not that I don't want you to be in contact with the husband.

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Nope, I'm shutting it all off.

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Appreciate it.

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That's why it's not like trade secret.

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I record on my iPhones that I have and I put it in airplane mode.

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So, notifications don't come through and I usually and I just double check, since that happened and I had it already um mute my computer.

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So, uh, notifications don't come through.

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I typically have my phone on silent all day, every day, but with frankie kind of being on the outs.

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You're in touch with nathan when he's not home or whatever.

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So yeah makes sense so, um, how do you like the beer?

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It's pretty good, it's yeah, it's a little bit lighter for, I think, an octoberfest type beer which I don't mind.

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No, actually I'm kind of glad that it's a little lighter.

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Yeah, even though it's it's a little bit lighter for, I think, an octoberfest type beer which I don't mind no, actually I'm kind of glad that it's a little lighter yeah, even though it's a 6abv, but like the taste you don't, you don't taste that no, it's delicious.

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Thank you, mom and dad, that's great thank you uh very much for this.

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This is actually quite, uh, quite delicious yeah, so we're going to get right into it here.

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You might know this story.

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Okay, so it is about Lady Jane Gray.

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Yes.

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You know of her.

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Yes.

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What do you know?

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Her first name was Lady.

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Yeah Well, Jane.

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Oh, no, no.

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Wasn't uh refresh my memory.

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Yeah, of course.

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So, um, she was a queen for a very short amount of time, right before Bloody Mary took reign.

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Yes, that's right.

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Okay.

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Okay, I was.

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I was going to start saying that and I'm like I am second guessing myself.

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There's a ton of people around that time and we're going to talk about a ton of people today.

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Yeah, all right.

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So in England of 1553.

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Yes, protestant King, king Edward VI, who was only 15 years old.

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Yes.

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And Henry VIII's only son is dying of tuberculosis.

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Correct.

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Oh, that's what he died of, I guess.

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Yeah, I'm not sure if I knew that.

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Yes, tuberculosis.

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I know he died young, but I guess I didn't know it was tuberculosis.

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Yes, so I have a question for you.

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Yes, who is Edward VI's mother?

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Edward VI's mother is oh, hold on a sec.

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It's obviously one of, yeah, his wives, edward or, excuse me, uh, henry the eighth's wives.

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It was his favorite because she gave him a son.

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And who was that?

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Oh my god, why am I drawing a blank on her damn name?

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Because we know it's not catherine of aragorn, because that was his first one.

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We know it's not, uh, wow starts with a j yeah, it's uh.

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Oh, my fucking god, I'm so pissed at myself that I can't think of it.

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I'll start with her first name yeah jane yeah uh, jesus christ.

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Why can't I see more?

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thank you, god, yes now based on a an origin of weird story that we did of ignaz semble vice.

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Yes, who the hand washing guy?

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Yep, um, how did jane seymour die?

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of not washing her hands childbed fever.

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Yes, she had no issue washing her hands.

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It was, you know, it was her doctors, you know I had to go that route because you just said it, but no, because she died in in childbirth or shortly after.

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Yeah, it was not long after the childbed fever.

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And again, I think I've literally said this exact line on this podcast before is wasn't she the one he wanted to be buried next to her when he died?

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Because I think it was her and I could be.

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Obviously he had so many fucking wives and some were beheaded that I could be screwing this up, but I want to say he wanted to be buried next to her because he, she, was his favorite and I think a big part of her being his favorite was she had a son, yeah, which he could never have yeah, he did not have with previous marriages.

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Yes.

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So, since he's just a teenager and he doesn't have a male heir, yes.

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He fears the throne will pass to his Catholic half sister, Mary Tudor.

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Which it eventually does.

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Or Mary the First, or.

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Bloody Mary.

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Or Bloody Mary.

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Yeah, okay, popular drink on Saturday mornings.

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Edward's older half sister.

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Yeah.

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Who is?

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Maryary, the first mother oh, that's, uh and balloon no wait, mary the first bloody mary, who's blary?

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bloody mary's mother and balloon no, who catherine of aragorn oh god, fucking damn it.

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Yes, aragorn, yeah, I know, no, yeah, yeah no I'm thinking of elizabeth's mother, which is anne boleyn.

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Fuck my bad so because ed king, edward the six is 15, he's dying.

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He has advisors who are basically running the show and they pretty much were the whole time the whole time he was only 15 because he was only 15 when did he take over from when henry died?

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I don't remember.

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He was pretty effing young, I believe, and he didn't rule for that long either.

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I mean, he never really ruled he never really ruled his advisors took over from the get-go yeah, they had to love that because oh, they absolutely adored that because they were king adjacent and they wanted to continue that

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so well, of course they did, because they had ultimate power disguised under a fucking kid, basically yes, and the prospect that catholic, catholic mary Mary could be queen gives the Protestant advisor some serious anxiety.

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Yeah, so let's enter John Dudley.

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Duke of Northumberland, yes, duke of Northumberland, northumberland.

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You had it the second time, then you fucking ruined it again.

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I know I kept talking.

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Yeah, you should stop.

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He was pretty much a top advisor with his own agenda.

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He had like this twisted mustache, villainous type of situation going on, do you?

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think you put a lot of product in it to curl it can I like that?

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that was one too many, but yes, so northumberland um convinces the dying edward to alter the line of succession so you called him northumberland dudley john dudley is north, nor is duke of northumberland, and I'm just calling him north are you trying to cover what you fucked up there?

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are you actually calling him that?

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I'm calling him northumberland hey town, what'sland Okay?

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Sorry I was just confirming.

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I mean, I just don't want to get lost here.

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So he wants to alter the line of succession in favor of Jane Gray, who is grand niece to Henry VIII.

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Okay, okay, so let's get the family tree out.

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Yeah.

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Henry VIII's sister.

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Yes, mary Tudor, not Bloody Mary.

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Okay, so let's get the family tree out.

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Yeah, henry, the eighth sister.

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Yes, mary Tudor, not bloody Mary.

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No, okay, his sister, mary Tudor.

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Yeah.

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Had a daughter named Francis Brandon.

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Okay.

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Who had a daughter named Jane Gray.

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Jane Gray.

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Okay, okay, got it.

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So by altering the line, it skips over Bloody Mary and her sister, which was his ultimate goal.

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Yes, and her sister Elizabeth.

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Queen Elizabeth, yes, and skips over Jane Grey's mother, Frances Brandon.

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She was kind of older, she already had children, you know.

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So they just kind of skipped over her and went straight to Jane.

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Elizabeth's mother is Anne Boleyn Anne Boleyn, correct.

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So if Frances became queen she wouldn't have been as easy for Northumberland and the council to control.

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So that brings us to Jane.

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She's a Protestant and conveniently married to Northumberland's son.

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Well, no wonder he wanted her.

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Fucking dumbass.

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Guilford Dudley.

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Guilford.

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Wow, I would want to do things in my brain if I was named Guilford.

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So Edward's new will, called the device of the succession, names Lady Jane Grey and her male heirs as the next monarchs.

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But by bypassing his half-sisters on the grounds that they're illegitimate, mary would flip england back to catholicism, which is exactly what they didn't want and that's exactly what she tried to do when she was queen for sure, fast forward so do you remember when we talked about um, uh, forced confessions and stuff?

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it's basically what this is uh forced.

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Hey, edward, this is what you want right, yes, yes it's basically the same concept, because, no, no, you don't know that.

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Yeah, but you're really blurry.

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These aren't even real glasses.

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These are blue light glasses, yeah, but these are real glasses.

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And then I was fogging up because it's warm in here.

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Yeah, you better know.

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No, it's still warm.

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Okay, drink more.

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Okay, okay, no, I'm in.

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Still warm.

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Okay, drink more.

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Okay, okay, cheers.

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So Edward dies on June nope, july 6th 1553.

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Okay, and his death is kept like hush hush for a couple of days.

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Northumberland has a plan to pull off, so he needs to install Jane as queen before bloody mary gets and I'm saying bloody mary so we don't confuse all the marys yeah, because there's mary tudor, and then there's mary, the first tutor, yeah, but one is bloody mary and one is sister to henry yes, so um, I get it.

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Yeah, so I'm just referring to her as bloody mary just like you refer to dudley as northumberland exactly not his name, because his son's name is is dudley too so northumberland?

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Exactly Not his name, because his son's name is Dudley 2.

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So Northumberland.

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Why was his name Dudley 2?

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Like the number 2?

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Okay, Anyways continue.

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So they don't want Bloody Mary to get wind of anything.

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So on July 9th, Three days later.

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Jane is brought to Scion House, which is Northumberland's estate.

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Jane, she's very accomplished for her age.

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Oh nice.

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She speaks or reads like six different languages.

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So if she can't speak it, she can at least read it.

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Right, which I wish I could just read one other language.

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I can better read English.

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At one point she like reads plato in greek for fun.

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She knows theology and philosophy and has zero intention that sounds like a hoot zero intention of ever becoming queen.

00:14:56.878 --> 00:14:58.221
It's not in her radar.

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She was radar she was fifth in line it's, it's her, her father-in-law.

00:15:04.070 --> 00:15:04.451
She didn't.

00:15:04.451 --> 00:15:05.692
She wanted to be her.

00:15:05.692 --> 00:15:08.582
Yeah, he wanted to be only because she had the.

00:15:08.582 --> 00:15:10.888
Obviously the, the tie to the family.

00:15:10.888 --> 00:15:16.105
Yeah, but yeah, no, she sounds like she was doing fine on her own yes, exactly so.

00:15:16.485 --> 00:15:27.467
Here comes northumberland and he breaks the news jane sweetie you're queen now.

00:15:27.467 --> 00:15:29.971
Piece of cake um.

00:15:29.971 --> 00:15:31.732
Jane promptly passes out.

00:15:31.732 --> 00:15:33.634
Oh, she literally faints.

00:15:33.634 --> 00:15:35.662
Well, I mean, it's quite a lot to take in.

00:15:35.721 --> 00:15:36.768
It's a lot to ain't course.

00:15:36.768 --> 00:15:48.708
She's like wait what you know, corsets and stuff, probably a little tight yeah, she probably didn't have great drinking water, you know probably had mud in it probably I don't know, so not they didn't have a great water, you know Probably had mud in it Probably, I don't know they didn't have a great filtration system back then.

00:15:48.708 --> 00:15:48.989
Probably not.

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I do.

00:15:49.089 --> 00:15:49.409
No, brita, I do.

00:15:49.409 --> 00:15:50.250
Yeah, you said that twice.

00:15:50.250 --> 00:15:50.851
Now I got it.

00:15:50.851 --> 00:15:51.714
Do you want to say it one more?

00:15:52.073 --> 00:15:52.475
I got it.

00:15:53.801 --> 00:15:55.147
That was three too many.

00:15:56.980 --> 00:16:07.643
So, after coming to the poor girl protests quote I doth protest, quote I don't protest the crown is not my right.

00:16:07.663 --> 00:16:08.164
It please pleaseth me not.

00:16:08.164 --> 00:16:11.172
Aren't those the kind of people you kind of want to put there, though, because they don't want it?

00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:16.033
but yeah, usually they're the best I know, but jane even insists um no.

00:16:16.033 --> 00:16:18.259
Mary is the rightful heir.

00:16:18.259 --> 00:16:19.662
What the heck are you doing?

00:16:19.662 --> 00:16:32.451
Yeah, like this, this ain't right dude, but j but Jane's dad, Mr Henry Gray, Duke of Suffolk hey, Duke of Suffolk, who supports Northumberland the father-in-law.

00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.471
So this wasn't the Henry Cavill and the Tudors show, right?

00:16:36.471 --> 00:16:43.912
This would be a different Duke of Suffolk, because the Henry Cavill character in the Tudors was friends with Henry.

00:16:43.912 --> 00:16:45.629
So I wonder if he was dead already.

00:16:45.669 --> 00:16:46.720
I don't remember when he died.

00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:50.370
So if you're talking about Henry VIII, this is farther down the line.

00:16:51.192 --> 00:16:52.076
I understand that.

00:16:52.176 --> 00:16:58.190
So I've never seen the whole series, I've only seen like series the um.

00:16:58.190 --> 00:16:58.750
What's her name?

00:16:58.750 --> 00:17:06.511
Natalie dorman yes I've only seen parts of her parts parts of her parts.

00:17:07.053 --> 00:17:13.626
Well, she does take her top off in it, so so you've seen parts of her parts, I guess so anyway.

00:17:13.646 --> 00:17:29.127
Um, so dad is in plot with father-in-law and half the privy council pressuring jane, who is reluctant, and she says fine, I'll be queen if it's truly lawful.

00:17:29.127 --> 00:17:33.803
It was signed by the king, it is now truly lawful, whatever.

00:17:33.803 --> 00:17:36.147
She basically has no choice.

00:17:36.147 --> 00:17:43.564
Okay, these, these guys, her father, her father-in-law, the council, they all have bigger agendas.

00:17:43.564 --> 00:17:44.726
What did hubby think of this?

00:17:45.428 --> 00:17:46.128
was he on board?

00:17:46.609 --> 00:17:55.625
he wants to be king, of course he does and jane says no, no, no if I'm gonna be queen, I'm gonna be queen, I'm going to be queen.

00:17:55.625 --> 00:17:57.885
Right, you can be Duke.

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She gives him a dukedom.

00:18:00.507 --> 00:18:04.769
That's how Elizabeth II had it all that time.

00:18:05.250 --> 00:18:07.090
With her husband, Prince Philip.

00:18:07.211 --> 00:18:12.255
Philip right, yes, she called him a prince he was never king of England.

00:18:12.255 --> 00:18:14.875
Only she was queen of England.

00:18:14.875 --> 00:18:17.258
Yep, the whole time they were together.

00:18:17.258 --> 00:18:20.741
So yeah, I mean that's not the same situation.

00:18:20.762 --> 00:18:27.016
yeah basically so, july 10th 1553, jane gray is 16 or 17.

00:18:27.016 --> 00:18:32.827
She's got like two years of potential birth, so she's either 16 or 17, not exactly.

00:18:32.827 --> 00:18:52.366
Yeah, wasn't exactly, um, but she is proclaimed queen of england wow okay, her, her status is announced on the streets of london, but the response pretty much, and the response of the london londoners weren't exactly buying it no, they're like what?

00:18:52.366 --> 00:19:00.670
They know that bloody mary is the legit heir, so the public reaction is pretty much silent against jane.

00:19:00.670 --> 00:19:02.823
They're just like the same the same.

00:19:02.843 --> 00:19:18.756
They're like nice joke yeah yeah, let's, let's go say hi to the queen so one guy even says just a bystander, he says lady mary has a better claim, and the north berlin promptly, and then Northumberland promptly, cuts off his ears for treasonous talk.

00:19:18.756 --> 00:19:23.830
So everybody else is like I won't say nothing.

00:19:24.901 --> 00:19:26.025
That is a dick move.

00:19:26.527 --> 00:19:27.209
What is a dick?

00:19:27.619 --> 00:19:37.835
Well, clearly, because he's got his own agenda, like we said, and he literally mutilates this person for treasonous in his eyes.

00:19:37.835 --> 00:19:41.041
But honestly, what he did is fucking treason.

00:19:41.041 --> 00:19:50.607
Yes, so you're kind of an asshole for cutting this dude's ears off because he's like no, this, this chick over here's got a better claim than she does.

00:19:50.607 --> 00:19:54.041
Yeah, she's not fifth in line, she's literally fucking first in line.

00:19:54.041 --> 00:19:55.925
Yeah, so what the fuck?

00:19:56.125 --> 00:20:02.000
yes, so queen jane is um experiencing kind of a bad first week of a new job.

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Essentially, yeah, she is escorted to the tower of london.

00:20:06.369 --> 00:20:09.582
Now, if you recall, the tower of london has many hats.

00:20:09.582 --> 00:20:16.272
It is um royal apartments, it is um a prison dungeon a dungeon?

00:20:16.374 --> 00:20:16.773
yeah, it's.

00:20:16.773 --> 00:20:21.030
It's pretty much everything, and poor lady Lady Jane experiences it all, oh dear.

00:20:21.030 --> 00:20:26.169
It's traditional for monarchs to go to the Tower of London before coronation.

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So that's where she goes.

00:20:27.265 --> 00:20:35.548
She tries on the state crown and nearly faints at how heavy it is, like she's just she doesn't want to be where she is.

00:20:35.548 --> 00:20:39.425
That was not her lot in life, that's not what she wanted.

00:20:39.425 --> 00:20:44.134
No, and here she is being thrust into this role all because of popping line.

00:20:44.134 --> 00:20:44.517
Yeah.

00:20:44.676 --> 00:20:53.347
Papa so so at this point is when her husband is like I want to be King, and she said, uh, you're going to be Duke dick.

00:20:53.347 --> 00:20:58.652
Yeah, and I think that was a quote Actually you're gonna be Duke dick like that.

00:20:58.652 --> 00:21:04.907
Yeah, she knew that she had the tutor blood and he didn't.

00:21:04.907 --> 00:21:06.650
It ain't going to happen, dude.

00:21:07.191 --> 00:21:10.275
No, he was just hoping hey, we're married, Look at me go.

00:21:10.275 --> 00:21:14.609
Yeah, you're going to be a Duke, so that's not how it always works, yeah.

00:21:22.579 --> 00:21:26.749
So Northumberland sent word to bloody mary and sister elizabeth to come to london and stay at the tower of london.

00:21:26.769 --> 00:21:34.347
For their safety, oh lord, or for their capture yeah, it's a trap can I put a little clip of admiral akbar?

00:21:34.347 --> 00:21:35.911
It's a trap, please do.

00:21:35.911 --> 00:21:37.740
Do you think I can get away with that?

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Is that allowed, or am I going to get sued by Lucasfilm?

00:21:40.207 --> 00:21:41.611
I kind of want to get sued by Lucasfilm.

00:21:44.381 --> 00:21:46.144
Just put a made by Lucasfilm.

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Courtesy of Lucasfilm.

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Courtesy of Lucasfilm Return of the Jedi 1983.

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Do it.

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So if Mary walked into the tower, she'd be under Northumberland's control, making it much easier to prevent her from claiming the throne.

00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:03.539
And also leaving probably.

00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:12.472
So the moment that Mary heard Edward died, edward VI died and Jane was declared king, mary fled to Queen.

00:22:12.472 --> 00:22:18.746
Queen Mary fled to East Anglia, anglia, like Jolie, anglia, anglia.

00:22:18.766 --> 00:22:19.667
Anglia, anglia Like Jolie.

00:22:20.669 --> 00:22:23.993
Anglia, anglia Maybe it's Anglia.

00:22:24.054 --> 00:22:24.954
Maybe that might be.

00:22:25.540 --> 00:22:30.119
But basically it's like you know how like I'm literally picturing the British Isles.

00:22:30.340 --> 00:22:31.041
You know how like.

00:22:31.202 --> 00:22:33.307
England is kind of like a fucked up triangle.

00:22:34.130 --> 00:22:34.711
More or less yeah.

00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:40.925
It's like the east side, like right there, not totally south, but like yeah, it's like that little bump out on the east side.

00:22:40.925 --> 00:22:42.867
Okay, so that's where she's at.

00:22:42.887 --> 00:22:44.608
My computer keeps going, all weird.

00:22:45.049 --> 00:22:47.852
So Mary, who's there?

00:22:47.852 --> 00:22:49.534
She's not totally in her thumbs right.

00:22:49.534 --> 00:22:52.936
She's going to build some support.

00:22:52.936 --> 00:22:56.951
She builds an army.

00:22:57.272 --> 00:23:24.615
Yeah, Catholic sympathizers, anti-dudley or northumberland, nobles common folks who remember henry's eldest daughter and how they all start lining up behind mary well, she was very beloved and that's why, like, when you call her bloody mary, it's almost kind of funny, because, like when she took over, she was adamant to get the catholic back into England, even though her dad is the one that killed it, because all he just wanted a fucking divorce.

00:23:24.859 --> 00:23:26.647
So he wanted a divorce yeah.

00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:37.359
Properly banging, and Berlin, I should say, because you know that was happening prior to the divorce and you know the whole Church of England was created because of her dad and everything.

00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:43.133
But she still had a lot of support because even though he did all that, a lot of people are still Catholic.

00:23:43.133 --> 00:23:44.838
They just had to hide it, yeah.

00:23:44.838 --> 00:23:54.335
So I mean I can't imagine it wouldn't have been hard for her to gain support from the people of England basically yeah, exactly.

00:23:54.335 --> 00:23:54.634
Yeah.

00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.442
So Mary, by contrast, has some goodwill At this point.

00:23:59.442 --> 00:24:03.076
She's not yet Bloody Mary, she's just Princess Mary who got a raw deal.

00:24:03.076 --> 00:24:09.092
Yeah, and, like I said, I just call her Bloody Mary, just to keep her apart from Henry VIII's sister Mary.

00:24:09.092 --> 00:24:11.468
I get it which I guess we don't really talk about anymore.

00:24:12.002 --> 00:24:14.121
So stop calling her Bloody Mary, I'm just kidding.

00:24:14.701 --> 00:24:26.212
In mid-July 1553, mary gathers an army in eastern England, while Northumberland marches his own troops out of London to stop her.

00:24:26.874 --> 00:24:30.096
Oh, but However.

00:24:30.540 --> 00:24:32.488
His troops start deserting.

00:24:32.819 --> 00:24:35.028
Because they're like no, we're not going to win this.

00:24:35.147 --> 00:24:42.567
Yeah, they're actually like no, I actually believe that Mary's the rightful heir, so did some of them defect to her army.

00:24:42.646 --> 00:24:47.364
Yes, okay, I kind of figured that was the course of action for them, because why wouldn't it be?

00:24:47.364 --> 00:24:55.130
When they understand, even though they're Northumberland's guys, they're like yeah, I don't really believe in this.

00:24:55.780 --> 00:24:59.787
So back in London the Privy Council is having a collective change of heart.

00:24:59.787 --> 00:25:05.494
They are starting to smell Northumberland's like imminent failure Bullshit basically.

00:25:05.494 --> 00:25:13.959
So just over nine days, support for Jane kind of evaporates, and it's not because of her.

00:25:14.621 --> 00:25:16.347
No, it's because of her father-in-law.

00:25:16.407 --> 00:25:18.971
Yeah, and it's because of Mary and herin-law.

00:25:18.991 --> 00:25:22.163
yeah, and it's because of mary and her the rightful, rightful heir path to the throne.

00:25:22.163 --> 00:25:29.709
Yeah jane was kind of in wrong place at wrong time see, and that's kind of shitty because it was not her fault it wasn't at all.

00:25:29.709 --> 00:25:32.801
I mean, that's not really fair, to put this how old was she again?

00:25:32.801 --> 00:25:39.648
16, 17 yeah, so I mean, you put this teenager in a position she never even fucking wanted.

00:25:40.369 --> 00:25:49.019
And then people are like more or less, especially because back then with the word of mouth and so on, are like fuck this bitch, not her fault.

00:25:49.019 --> 00:25:56.087
Nope, not her fault, and I know, and I understand that a lot of them understood, that it was Northumberland doing what basically he was doing.

00:25:56.087 --> 00:25:59.353
I mean, what the fuck yeah?

00:26:00.193 --> 00:26:07.132
so council members who swore loyalty to queen jane are now sneaking out to join team mary.

00:26:07.132 --> 00:26:18.109
Okay, and on july 19th north umberland's forces are melting away and the council now declares actually, we're gonna make mary queen.

00:26:18.109 --> 00:26:22.615
Sorry jane, we're gonna rewind a little bit so this is.

00:26:22.855 --> 00:26:25.125
This was only 13 days after edward died.

00:26:25.708 --> 00:26:40.151
Yeah, okay yeah, so they literally abandoned jane in the tower oh dear some of them excuse themselves saying that they need to consult other members of the privy, but then they would go and proclaim Mary as the queen.

00:26:40.151 --> 00:26:42.904
So they're all just abandoning Jane.

00:26:43.145 --> 00:26:43.988
So they lock her up.

00:26:44.808 --> 00:26:46.492
They did, they did.

00:26:46.492 --> 00:26:53.969
So that same day, july 19th, mary Tudor triumphantly enters London as queen.

00:26:53.969 --> 00:27:01.892
Okay, jane's reign ends after just nine days Wow.

00:27:02.452 --> 00:27:02.973
That's wild.

00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:09.012
Her father, henry Gray, comes to Jane and basically says my bad.

00:27:09.012 --> 00:27:13.165
Sweetie, it's over my bad.

00:27:13.165 --> 00:27:15.703
You're no longer queen we kind of fucked up.

00:27:15.703 --> 00:27:18.726
Let's hightail it out of here.

00:27:18.726 --> 00:27:20.865
Yeah, so if you could just forgive me.

00:27:20.865 --> 00:27:25.471
But Jane is like okay, thank God, because I didn't want this.

00:27:25.471 --> 00:27:30.131
And I even declared Mary queen before I even accepted.

00:27:30.840 --> 00:27:32.205
She's just happy that she is.

00:27:33.761 --> 00:27:35.047
She told them I don't want this.

00:27:35.560 --> 00:27:40.903
No, the rightful heir is Mary, and I don't want this, but they're like no, you really do, do I though?

00:27:40.903 --> 00:27:42.846
Yeah, no.

00:27:43.747 --> 00:27:48.852
So she was glad to be relieved of it and she asks if she can go home.

00:27:49.093 --> 00:27:49.313
Right.

00:27:49.573 --> 00:27:50.233
Unfortunately.

00:27:50.233 --> 00:27:52.076
Mary's like no she doesn't get to go home.

00:27:52.076 --> 00:27:58.558
No, mary orders Jane and Guildford contained to the tower.

00:27:58.558 --> 00:28:00.907
Okay, now, the tower that they're in.

00:28:00.907 --> 00:28:06.134
They have Royal apartments and that's what they've been staying in, so they're basically under house arrest.

00:28:06.134 --> 00:28:09.669
Yes, okay, so they're not in cells or anything like that.

00:28:09.869 --> 00:28:13.147
No, they have pretty good digs for being in a prison.

00:28:13.147 --> 00:28:14.912
If you will, they do so yeah.

00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:22.632
North under Northumberland, himself is arrested Good, and he does lose his head in a few weeks time because of treason.

00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.405
See, and they should have cut his ears off and gave it back to that guy.

00:28:27.405 --> 00:28:32.153
I'm sure the medical professions back then could accomplish that Right.

00:28:32.733 --> 00:28:41.682
Fucking dick so I didn't look into this part any further.

00:28:41.682 --> 00:28:49.066
But um, jane's father, um, switched to mary's side at the last minute and mary did forgive him for a time but eventually didn't forgive him and I'm not sure if he was executed or what.

00:28:49.066 --> 00:28:49.928
I didn't look into that.

00:28:49.928 --> 00:28:51.171
Well, she executed a lot of people.

00:28:51.171 --> 00:28:51.819
She did.

00:28:52.540 --> 00:29:01.974
Let's just assume that he was even if not, let's pretend let's pretend so for a few months jane's life kind of hangs in limbo.

00:29:01.974 --> 00:29:06.569
Um mary, the first, now queen, kind of faces a little bit of a dilemma.

00:29:06.569 --> 00:29:20.830
Jane is a political pawn but she's also a protestant and some, some of the protestants are considering jane to be kind of a martyr in making right, so like someone who is destined to die for their religion.

00:29:21.372 --> 00:29:26.269
Essentially, yeah, and she doesn't want to like promote that.

00:29:26.550 --> 00:29:28.384
Promote that she doesn't want to.

00:29:28.384 --> 00:29:34.289
People did like Jane they just didn't think she could be queen or should be queen.

00:29:34.770 --> 00:29:35.313
She shouldn't have been.

00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:45.070
So Mary was also kind of saving face a little bit and Jane is 16 or 17 years old and mary's like I really don't want to execute.

00:29:45.070 --> 00:29:47.040
First of all, my cousin, yeah.

00:29:47.040 --> 00:30:01.443
Second of all, someone so young right so she spares jane's life, at first hoping to show a little bit of mercy at first and yes at first, and then jane and guilford remain locked up in the tower of london.

00:30:01.463 --> 00:30:02.426
Who's guilford again.

00:30:02.426 --> 00:30:03.329
Is that her husband?

00:30:03.410 --> 00:30:12.020
I thought so, but I just want to make sure they are convicted of treason in november 1553, but kept alive as long as they're not a threat.

00:30:12.020 --> 00:30:14.284
At this point, they're not a threat, they're under house arrest.

00:30:14.284 --> 00:30:14.944
What are they gonna do?

00:30:14.944 --> 00:30:20.751
But see that, hey guard, I'm the real queen follow me now.

00:30:21.292 --> 00:30:22.414
But see, that's horseshit.

00:30:22.414 --> 00:30:28.766
That she was convicted of treason because she was forced into that, did she not tell mary like no I?

00:30:29.046 --> 00:30:35.386
I thought you were the queen I'm sure there's a lot of hearsay that doesn't get like legitimized, and that's the problem.

00:30:35.527 --> 00:30:43.752
Yeah, and I'd like to say just back then but even today, with all the fucking social media and such, there's a lot of hearsay.

00:30:43.752 --> 00:30:45.720
Yeah, what are you supposed to believe?

00:30:45.720 --> 00:31:00.845
Yeah, you know, it's like, especially with all the fake shit people put out like these days, could you imagine the fake shit that went from town to town or whatever, because someone like north umberland or whatever said some shit and like, hey, did you hear?

00:31:00.884 --> 00:31:03.372
it's like it's not real man, but I don't know that.

00:31:03.372 --> 00:31:06.486
Do you know what's fake on me these glasses?

00:31:06.787 --> 00:31:08.871
yeah they're blue, like I've got contacts in.

00:31:08.871 --> 00:31:11.040
Oh, that's so fucking creepy.

00:31:11.040 --> 00:31:12.321
Okay, it's blue.

00:31:12.583 --> 00:31:13.482
Now it's yellow blue.

00:31:13.482 --> 00:31:14.825
Yeah, blue, yellow.

00:31:14.825 --> 00:31:23.734
Okay, so in early 1554, queen mary, what, what the fuck just happened?

00:31:23.734 --> 00:31:30.099
Blue yellow, blue yellow because everything is tinted yellow no, I, I get it why'd you ask the question?

00:31:31.782 --> 00:31:32.604
it was more or less.

00:31:32.604 --> 00:31:45.704
I'm trying to understand you and that is an enigma I will never understand okay, so in early 1554 yes queen mary announces plans to marry prince philip of spain.

00:31:45.944 --> 00:31:47.887
Yes, who is a catholic?

00:31:47.887 --> 00:31:52.361
Hapsburg weird philip was the son of charles v.

00:31:52.361 --> 00:32:01.660
Yeah, holy roman emperor, yeah, which made him one of the greatest catholics in catholic royals in europe.

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:07.191
He was pretty great, yeah, yeah so a bunch of english nobles are losing their minds.

00:32:07.191 --> 00:32:10.883
If mary marries him, mary marries, people feared.

00:32:10.883 --> 00:32:17.971
England would then be like a pawn or a puppet from spain, okay and they did not want.

00:32:18.352 --> 00:32:34.506
No, they did at all they did not like the idea of of potential um foreign king meddling in england's politics essentially because they were the ones that are used to doing that yes, that's fair, I mean I'm not hello american revolution hey.

00:32:34.566 --> 00:32:34.965
American.

00:32:34.986 --> 00:32:35.626
Revolution, hey, hey.

00:32:35.626 --> 00:32:45.416
So a Spanish marriage essentially meant a supercharged Catholic restoration.

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.883
She and I mean.

00:32:46.883 --> 00:32:59.368
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure she was going to set this up to try and bolster the Catholic part of what she wanted, Cause she always did not want what her dad did.

00:32:59.368 --> 00:33:02.327
No, she wanted Catholicism.

00:33:02.780 --> 00:33:05.393
She had a very big grudge against her father.

00:33:05.634 --> 00:33:07.946
Well, yeah, because she hated the fact that.

00:33:07.946 --> 00:33:11.066
Well, she dumped her mom for Anne Boleyn.

00:33:11.066 --> 00:33:19.689
Um, she hated that and the way he he treated her at the end, even though she lived a pretty lavish life for being fucking cast away, if you will.

00:33:19.689 --> 00:33:32.325
She didn't like suffer and wasn't a peasant all of a sudden, but, yes, she was pissed about what happened to her mom because she's like, well, this isn't, this isn't fucking right.

00:33:32.325 --> 00:33:37.031
You know, um, and she was a devout catholic.

00:33:37.031 --> 00:33:58.830
She hated the new like order of religion and again, religion back then was very prevalent, yes, obviously so yes, now I believe in the show, the tutors yeah queen catherine of aragon is played by maria doyle kennedy.

00:33:58.851 --> 00:34:01.300
That sounds right, I think she's irish.

00:34:01.300 --> 00:34:04.326
She's amazing, by the way.

00:34:04.326 --> 00:34:05.930
She was great in that show.

00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:08.800
Have you ever seen her act like I mean?

00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:10.103
in that show you have.

00:34:10.644 --> 00:34:12.309
She is so good.

00:34:12.309 --> 00:34:12.789
Oh, she's great.

00:34:12.789 --> 00:34:14.052
Have you seen um?

00:34:15.342 --> 00:34:18.168
she's a really pretty lady, oh yeah, she's so beautiful.

00:34:18.929 --> 00:34:20.833
Have you seen Orphan Black?

00:34:22.583 --> 00:34:28.498
I've never actually seen it, I know great, great, great show she was in that she.

00:34:28.498 --> 00:34:36.445
She has a supporting, very small supporting role because I I can vaguely picture the lead in that show, but I've never actually watched.

00:34:36.445 --> 00:34:46.353
I think is that cory, cory and I, my brother, will give the, the writer of our intro music and outro music um he'll.

00:34:46.353 --> 00:34:48.983
Well, I said that one we give each other.

00:34:48.983 --> 00:34:50.907
Uh, did you spill?

00:34:51.708 --> 00:34:53.172
no god, I wish I wouldn't have missed that.

00:34:53.172 --> 00:34:55.824
Good thing, I have it on video anywho.

00:34:55.824 --> 00:35:00.893
Um, we give give each other recommendations for shows and stuff and whatever movies or whatever.

00:35:00.893 --> 00:35:08.239
I can't remember if Orphan Black was one that he told me, though For some reason I'm thinking it is, but now I'm thinking it might have been Black Mirror.

00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:15.835
It's about a bunch of clones, but the lead she plays different clones of herself and she is brilliant.

00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:17.226
I'm trying to blank on her name.

00:35:17.226 --> 00:35:21.449
I can picture her, but I'm trying to blank on her name, I can picture her.

00:35:21.648 --> 00:35:22.431
Yeah, trying to blank on tatiana.

00:35:22.431 --> 00:35:34.063
I don't know, it sounds maybe tatiana milsani, something let's stop guessing names that we're not sure of but she is so great at accents and different character, oh my gosh, she's so good, okay, nice, okay.

00:35:34.063 --> 00:35:38.369
So yeah, enter sir thomas wyatt.

00:35:38.369 --> 00:35:56.588
He was the son of a diplomat under henry the eighth okay, okay sure he was a protestant who also didn't want spain to rule from across the seas of course not, so he um raised about 3 000 men oh and performed wyatt's rebellion.

00:35:56.989 --> 00:36:02.135
Oh it it erupts, in January of 1554, aiming to overthrow Mary.

00:36:02.456 --> 00:36:02.876
Oh shit.

00:36:03.219 --> 00:36:05.786
Okay, and guess who follows him?

00:36:05.786 --> 00:36:09.226
Northumberland Henry Gray, Jane's father.

00:36:09.226 --> 00:36:10.590
Oh fuck, yes.

00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.606
So that's part of the reason why it goes downhill from there.

00:36:13.606 --> 00:36:15.851
Yes, fucking hell, yes.

00:36:16.219 --> 00:36:16.612
Couldn't you be like Dad Hill from there?

00:36:16.612 --> 00:36:17.637
Yes, fucking hell, yes His involvement.

00:36:17.567 --> 00:36:17.969
Could you be like Dad?

00:36:18.802 --> 00:36:23.862
His involvement with this revolt basically signs Jane's death warrant.

00:36:23.922 --> 00:36:24.967
See, and that's horseshit.

00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:28.027
It ain't her fault, her dad's on the deep end.

00:36:28.271 --> 00:36:30.594
And her father-in-law is a dumb fuck.

00:36:30.675 --> 00:36:31.565
No, not her fault.

00:36:31.565 --> 00:36:43.969
Wow, so Wyatt planned to march on London, dispose Mary and possibly put Elizabeth, the Protestant daughter of Henry VIII on the throne instead.

00:36:44.168 --> 00:36:44.389
Right.

00:36:45.431 --> 00:36:50.416
At first things looked promising, oh promising, but support fizzled, oh dear.

00:36:50.416 --> 00:37:01.655
Yes, mary gave a fiery speech and she framed herself as England's rightful queen and patriot, and Londoners that were with Wyatt were like yeah, I'm sorry, wyatt.

00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:05.349
But see, the problem is she was exactly right.

00:37:05.349 --> 00:37:07.146
She was exactly right.

00:37:07.146 --> 00:37:17.789
I mean, these other people had these grandiose fucking ideas, but she was the rightful heir to the throne because the boy, the boy king.

00:37:18.510 --> 00:37:18.730
King.

00:37:18.809 --> 00:37:20.492
Edward VI the sixth died.

00:37:20.492 --> 00:37:22.275
Yes, it still goes.

00:37:22.516 --> 00:37:25.128
Also was the rightful heir at the time, the rightful heir at the time.

00:37:25.179 --> 00:37:26.204
Because he was a male.

00:37:26.204 --> 00:37:34.871
So he bypassed Elizabeth, he bypassed Mary and anyone else in that grand world.

00:37:34.871 --> 00:37:41.505
Because he was a male Once he died of tuberculosis, which, again thank you for that I male Once he died of tuberculosis, which, again thank you for that, I did not know he died of tuberculosis.

00:37:41.505 --> 00:37:51.347
Um, obviously next in line is the oldest daughter, cause it doesn't just jump families unless you're fucking dumb shit from Northumberland.

00:37:51.748 --> 00:37:53.192
The first daughter, yeah exactly.

00:37:53.251 --> 00:37:54.034
So that's Mary.

00:37:54.034 --> 00:38:18.130
Yeah, so she was the rightful fucking heir, no matter what other people wanted, like douchebag northumberland who then apparently got his daughter-in-law fucking killed eventually because walls are her dad power so was northumberland, executed by this point um I'm not sure what, no, okay when that happened because you said a couple weeks later so I wasn't sure.

00:38:18.150 --> 00:38:19.474
Yeah, it was a couple weeks later.

00:38:19.474 --> 00:38:23.010
This whole time frame was not a very long amount of time.

00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:28.512
No, but we're already in January-ish, so I'm guessing Northumberland was already killed.

00:38:28.940 --> 00:38:30.344
I would assume so, but I don't know.

00:38:30.443 --> 00:38:33.110
Yeah, I'm sorry, he wasn't killed, he was executed.

00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:42.081
There's a difference there's a difference.

00:38:42.101 --> 00:38:42.221
So.

00:38:42.221 --> 00:38:53.425
So mary gave her her speech and a lot of wyatt's followers were like sorry, dude, we're gonna, we're gonna follow mary, yeah, and he, he was blocked at the london bridge and he was arrested and he was kept.

00:38:53.425 --> 00:38:58.552
He was captured, executed as well was he drawn and quoted he?

00:38:59.733 --> 00:39:15.813
I don't know about that, but during his trial, why it does insist that he did want elizabeth on the throne because she was protestant, okay, but he does insist that elizabeth had zero involvement in his rebellion, sure.

00:39:15.813 --> 00:39:21.938
So that suspicion on elizabeth did hang over her head for quite a few years.

00:39:21.958 --> 00:39:22.539
I'm not surprised.

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.704
And Mary had Elizabeth locked in the tower for a bit, but then eventually spared her.

00:39:27.704 --> 00:39:37.400
Yep, so sister thankfully, Wyatt pulled out a little bit of a good grace and said Elizabeth had no part in this, but he was beheaded on April 11th 1554.

00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:49.905
I am Okay, okay, it's a good day so mary and her council conclude that as long as jane lives, she's gonna be a rallying point for future rebels she's not.

00:39:50.927 --> 00:39:51.931
Did she talk to her?

00:39:51.931 --> 00:39:53.996
I know, I mean seriously.

00:39:53.996 --> 00:39:55.340
Did she have a conversation?

00:39:55.340 --> 00:39:55.519
I?

00:39:55.539 --> 00:39:56.963
just want to read plato in.

00:39:56.963 --> 00:39:58.588
That's all I want to do.

00:39:58.648 --> 00:39:59.592
I want to go back to my life.

00:39:59.592 --> 00:40:01.146
I never even wanted this.

00:40:01.226 --> 00:40:01.306
Yeah.

00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.311
Douchebag dad who lost his head and father-in-law who lost his head who?

00:40:07.311 --> 00:40:08.052
Lost his head.

00:40:08.052 --> 00:40:09.744
I didn't want this.

00:40:09.744 --> 00:40:11.822
Yeah, I don't know, maybe have a conversation.

00:40:11.822 --> 00:40:17.291
But it's funny because even if they had a conversation back then they're like what if she lied?

00:40:17.291 --> 00:40:20.545
Yeah, you can't have that we just have to make sure.

00:40:21.340 --> 00:40:22.085
Off with their heads.

00:40:22.085 --> 00:40:24.927
Exactly she was going to be made an example of.

00:40:25.148 --> 00:40:26.585
Yep, most people were back then.

00:40:27.219 --> 00:40:30.230
So Mary reluctantly orders their execution.

00:40:30.740 --> 00:40:34.722
Her Jane and Guilford's I don't feel like it's reluctant, but all right.

00:40:35.322 --> 00:40:41.793
Guilford Dudley is taken out of his royal apartment cell and beheaded on Tower Hill.

00:40:41.793 --> 00:40:51.574
Oh boy, okay, tower Hill is located outside of the grounds of the Tower of London, but still very close.

00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:55.231
It's within walking distance.

00:40:55.231 --> 00:40:58.027
I was going to say that, but that wasn't very eloquent.

00:40:58.027 --> 00:41:04.768
But thank you for being that eloquent so his headless body did it roll down the hill?

00:41:05.550 --> 00:41:07.773
is carted past jane's window.

00:41:07.773 --> 00:41:10.967
She can see out, she can see tower hill.

00:41:11.007 --> 00:41:11.731
They did that on purpose.

00:41:11.751 --> 00:41:18.150
They did that on purpose um they carted his body past jane's window on the way back from the scaffold.

00:41:18.150 --> 00:41:23.548
So thank you for that traumatic sight, your majesty now um.

00:41:23.548 --> 00:41:27.717
Later that morning, jane is led to tower green.

00:41:27.717 --> 00:41:37.472
Now tower green sits within the tower walls, yeah, and is more, more of a private execution.

00:41:37.472 --> 00:41:38.574
Oh, that's so nice.

00:41:39.641 --> 00:41:40.726
She's a teenage girl.

00:41:40.726 --> 00:41:42.967
Excuse me, I ordered the private execution.

00:41:42.967 --> 00:41:44.030
The private execution.

00:41:46.820 --> 00:41:49.427
And, coincidentally, this is also where Anne Boleyn died.

00:41:49.427 --> 00:41:51.311
Yes, was on Tower Green.

00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:52.184
The funny thing.

00:41:52.184 --> 00:41:54.246
Coincidentally, a lot of other people probably died there too.

00:41:54.621 --> 00:41:56.567
Yes, but she was the other notable one.

00:41:56.567 --> 00:41:59.101
Well, yeah, but Lady Grain.

00:41:59.101 --> 00:42:07.054
Lady Gray, she gives a small speech affirming her faith and asking for forgiveness.

00:42:07.054 --> 00:42:14.333
She's actually very dignified and very courageous when she's approaching the scaffold.

00:42:14.333 --> 00:42:23.264
She famously asked her executioner quote please dispatch me quickly, end quote oh, that's so nice.

00:42:23.304 --> 00:42:24.288
Let's get this over with.

00:42:24.288 --> 00:42:25.190
It's like you know what?

00:42:25.190 --> 00:42:26.240
You've touched my heart.

00:42:26.240 --> 00:42:27.302
I will kill you quickly.

00:42:27.443 --> 00:42:40.695
Yeah, exactly so she blindfolds herself it was probably something that had to be done, so she just did it herself, yeah, but she couldn't find, like the execution block, um, so she literally cried out where is it?

00:42:40.695 --> 00:42:43.628
And someone guided her to it.

00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:46.449
Oh, that was very uh nice of them to do that.

00:42:46.449 --> 00:42:48.846
Yes, and let me show you to your death.

00:42:49.086 --> 00:42:59.865
Yes, exactly, and lady Jane gray was um executed by beheading, uh, as 16 or 17 years old, depending on what year she was born, which we do not know for sure.

00:42:59.865 --> 00:43:00.246
Right, right, right.

00:43:00.969 --> 00:43:03.007
So that is pretty sad.

00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.606
She is known as the Nine Days Queen.

00:43:05.606 --> 00:43:13.670
Wow, yes, so it is the shortest reign of any English monarch before or since.

00:43:14.353 --> 00:43:15.844
Wow, yeah, I mean, that makes sense.

00:43:16.141 --> 00:43:19.173
Mary would go on to earn her name Bloody Mary.

00:43:19.715 --> 00:43:20.539
Killing a lot of Protestants.

00:43:21.682 --> 00:43:24.590
She burned several hundred Protestants.

00:43:24.590 --> 00:43:30.750
Yeah, and Jane Grey was named as a Protestant martyr.

00:43:32.472 --> 00:43:32.873
Crazy.

00:43:32.873 --> 00:43:38.231
I mean, I feel like they could have had a conversation.

00:43:39.481 --> 00:43:41.065
But would they have listened to each other?

00:43:41.065 --> 00:43:43.291
Cause, you know Cause.

00:43:44.561 --> 00:43:45.987
I said you were the rightful one.

00:43:45.987 --> 00:43:50.835
I mean, I know times were different.

00:43:51.539 --> 00:44:14.282
Lady Jane was kind of a symbol in Mary's eyes of the Protestant Reformation and so to get rid of the protestants she had to get rid of lady jane well, yeah, because she wanted to kill the protestants, basically because she wanted catholicism back as the religion for her country, and that's honestly the reason why she's called bloody mary.

00:44:14.282 --> 00:44:15.666
This is funny.

00:44:15.666 --> 00:44:30.275
Let's kill a lot of people in the name of God, because that's never happened before or since, but either way, it's just funny how many people have died in the name of God, when it's just the people doing it, using that as a scapegoat.

00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.612
Reference to last week's episode of Mary Osgood and the Witch Trials of Salem.

00:44:36.612 --> 00:44:37.594
It's all for God.

00:44:37.594 --> 00:44:39.188
Okay, of mary osgood and the witch trials of salem.

00:44:39.208 --> 00:44:39.630
It's all for god.

00:44:39.630 --> 00:44:41.942
Okay, see, and again, to each their own in their religion.

00:44:41.942 --> 00:44:44.608
Um, stop using him as a scapegoat.

00:44:44.608 --> 00:44:46.391
It's the people that are fucking shit up.

00:44:46.391 --> 00:44:57.932
Yeah, you know, and it's kind of sad that they use whether you believe it or not, they use him as a, as the fucking reason for their do-goodiness, or?

00:44:57.932 --> 00:45:07.673
Their awfulness or their awfulness, which usually the do-goodiness is, uh disguise, disguising the the awfulness, because they're using it.

00:45:07.673 --> 00:45:14.132
They're using something good to hide something bad is typically what it is and it's just so dumb.

00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:26.394
There was a lot of people that we talked about, yes, but I think I would love to do like a future episode on Bloody Mary, I think.

00:45:28.161 --> 00:45:28.661
I would love that.

00:45:28.661 --> 00:45:31.030
I always found her intriguing.

00:45:31.030 --> 00:45:33.429
I mean again, the Tudor show is great.

00:45:33.429 --> 00:45:36.429
I'm trying to blank on the actress's name who played her.

00:45:36.429 --> 00:45:46.063
She was really good as her oh as Mary.

00:45:46.083 --> 00:45:46.603
Yeah, yeah, fuck with that.

00:45:46.603 --> 00:45:46.804
I know it.

00:45:46.824 --> 00:45:48.447
I'm just drawing a blank but um, are you looking it up?

00:45:49.027 --> 00:45:49.929
sarah bulger.

00:45:49.929 --> 00:45:56.827
Thank you, I don't know who that is well, she played mary so thank you uh, I really like her, though.

00:45:56.867 --> 00:45:57.228
She's good.

00:45:57.389 --> 00:46:02.228
She's good in that role um yeah, I think I've only seen a couple episodes it's, it's a.

00:46:02.228 --> 00:46:06.621
It's a great show yeah, um, let's see, how many seasons do you know?

00:46:06.663 --> 00:46:07.525
off the top of your head.

00:46:07.525 --> 00:46:15.809
I want to say you're right, four seasons and what's the jonathan jonathan, jonathan, reese myers is king henry the eighth.

00:46:15.809 --> 00:46:17.355
So and henry cavill is charles brandon Jonathan.

00:46:17.434 --> 00:46:22.619
Jonathan Rhys Myers is King Henry VIII and Henry Cavill is Charles Brandon.

00:46:22.619 --> 00:46:28.505
Duke of Suffolk so he Charles Brandon, then must have been.

00:46:29.121 --> 00:46:54.525
Francis Brandon's husband, lady Jane's dad husband, what, what he would be his husband brandon, charles brandon, because francis brandon was was lady jane's mom oh, her name was francis francis brandon why does that seem like a male name to me?

00:46:55.286 --> 00:46:55.367
now.

00:46:55.367 --> 00:46:56.630
Now I'm a little confused.

00:46:56.929 --> 00:46:58.032
Well, that wouldn't be the first time.

00:46:59.503 --> 00:47:03.932
Of course this isn't like historical documents or anything.

00:47:03.932 --> 00:47:27.226
No, it's obviously got Hollywood liberties, but Okay, charles Brandon is first Duke of Sussex, suffolk, suffolk, and he was married to mary tutor and was the brother-in-law of king henry the eighth.

00:47:27.226 --> 00:47:33.976
Correct this, this family tree is massive and intertwined intertwined.

00:47:33.976 --> 00:47:42.346
The names of everybody is the same name as the generation before them, and the generation after them and it is so freaking, confusing.

00:47:42.367 --> 00:47:44.503
You have to remember they only had so many names back then.

00:47:45.347 --> 00:47:45.947
I disagree.

00:47:46.730 --> 00:47:52.791
I don't Cause Henry the 23rd um.

00:47:53.581 --> 00:47:54.244
I don't get it.

00:47:54.244 --> 00:47:57.710
It's kind of like be your own goddamn individual.

00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:10.867
Well, that's why, like when, when last names weren't a thing back in those times, middle names were certainly not, so you'd have Henry.

00:48:10.867 --> 00:48:13.065
What did Henry do?

00:48:13.065 --> 00:48:13.829
Well, he's a carpenter.

00:48:13.829 --> 00:48:17.710
Those names Henry, carpenter, like that's how the name Carpenter came to be.

00:48:17.940 --> 00:48:18.221
Yeah.

00:48:18.342 --> 00:48:20.789
Kind of thing, and obviously a lot of other ones.

00:48:20.789 --> 00:48:24.981
Um, good thing, whore wasn't a common last name, but uh.

00:48:24.981 --> 00:48:41.463
But uh, yeah, I mean there was only, and a lot of them were biblical, of course, a lot of them were based off of kings and such I don't think they really had a lot of creativity behind them no, they had.

00:48:41.463 --> 00:48:52.347
They didn't have like great literary, literary works like we do today to uh base off their characters I said great literary works.

00:48:53.648 --> 00:49:00.074
That is what you would call not that's nicer than what I was about to say.

00:49:00.074 --> 00:49:02.342
I mean unfortunately.

00:49:02.342 --> 00:49:05.690
I have watched the movies and I have actually read the books.

00:49:06.222 --> 00:49:07.266
I didn't read twilight.

00:49:07.266 --> 00:49:17.101
I read the other three, um, but uh, they're not what you would call great it's.

00:49:17.101 --> 00:49:19.068
So my friend, amy, likes to read a lot.

00:49:19.068 --> 00:49:24.726
She reads a ton of books, yeah, and I have shit on some of them.

00:49:24.726 --> 00:49:28.083
She's try this and I did, and it's like this is just.

00:49:28.083 --> 00:49:34.027
This makes me want to blow my brains out, but she reads a lot more.

00:49:34.027 --> 00:49:44.186
I guess you would call him young adult, yeah, if you will, because she also is like Peter pan and can't grow up but, love you, amy.

00:49:44.867 --> 00:49:53.047
But uh, that's what those were is just they were young adult trash, more or less.

00:49:53.047 --> 00:49:59.280
And the more I watched the movies, the more I just wanted to like say the death of cinema is happening.

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:11.371
But uh, anywho, he'll always be cedric diggory, fuck edward, but anyways, um, but yeah.

00:50:11.371 --> 00:50:19.900
So now I'm derailed by the shit movies that I watched once in my life and read and read for that the novels.

00:50:21.322 --> 00:50:31.989
No, what I was trying to go for is great literary work, like where my daughter got her name from, but you had to go to twilight casino royale written by who?

00:50:31.989 --> 00:50:34.893
Oh, he was in one of our stories.

00:50:34.893 --> 00:50:44.072
You did it specifically for me, I know I did it in um I did it in the first Origin of Weird story the Operation Mincemeat.

00:50:44.092 --> 00:50:44.673
There you are.

00:50:45.476 --> 00:50:46.237
And what was that?

00:50:46.380 --> 00:50:47.965
Sir Conan Doyle.

00:50:48.989 --> 00:50:49.269
Arthur.

00:50:50.121 --> 00:50:51.807
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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Who wrote Sherlock Holmes?

00:50:54.702 --> 00:50:55.864
Did he write Sherlock Holmes?

00:50:55.864 --> 00:50:56.768
Yes, ian Fleming.

00:50:56.768 --> 00:50:57.670
Oh, I got there, I got there.

00:50:57.670 --> 00:51:00.175
You got there, ian Fleming, oh, I got there, you got there.

00:51:00.175 --> 00:51:00.958
Ian Fleming.

00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:01.659
I'm surprised.

00:51:02.081 --> 00:51:03.251
Shernan Conan Doyle.

00:51:03.380 --> 00:51:04.358
Shernan Conan Doyle.

00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:06.286
Shernan Conan Doyle Conan.

00:51:06.306 --> 00:51:09.563
Doyle, is that what you did before?

00:51:09.583 --> 00:51:12.403
He wrote Sherlock Sir.

00:51:12.443 --> 00:51:13.067
Arthur Conan.

00:51:13.067 --> 00:51:19.143
God now you're fucking me up, sir Arthur Conan, god fuck you.

00:51:19.164 --> 00:51:25.949
You, yes, he wrote sherlock I'm not even gonna say it anymore okay, so ian fleming.

00:51:25.949 --> 00:51:27.014
I have not read that book.

00:51:27.014 --> 00:51:27.898
Have you read that book?

00:51:27.998 --> 00:51:35.289
casino royale yes great job my daughter is named after that book and slash movie.

00:51:35.409 --> 00:51:37.032
I know, you told me, I know.

00:51:38.032 --> 00:51:38.954
You love Vesper.

00:51:39.175 --> 00:51:40.016
I love Vesper.

00:51:40.179 --> 00:51:45.206
She's so cute and sassy I thought it was salsa Sassy pants they call her.

00:51:45.487 --> 00:51:50.313
Okay, so how do you like Zipline Brewing Company, the Vesper?

00:51:50.940 --> 00:51:52.387
The German sale lager.

00:51:52.387 --> 00:51:56.351
The one thing I didn't like about it is the fact that both my cans ran out.

00:51:56.351 --> 00:51:59.264
No, it's very good.

00:51:59.585 --> 00:52:00.528
Actually, I don't mind it.

00:52:00.780 --> 00:52:15.114
Like you said, for being a uh a fest beer, being the German style lager, uh, a little lighter on the not so heavy which I also kind of prefer in a lager, for that matter.

00:52:15.114 --> 00:52:17.347
Uh no, I, I rather enjoy this.

00:52:17.347 --> 00:52:18.487
So it really was smooth, it really enjoy this.

00:52:18.487 --> 00:52:21.023
It really was smooth, it really was malty, it really was crisp.

00:52:21.023 --> 00:52:22.608
Thank you can for.

00:52:22.780 --> 00:52:23.744
Very festy beer.

00:52:24.121 --> 00:52:25.385
And it definitely was 6.0.

00:52:25.385 --> 00:52:29.766
I think I need to add another 6.0 to my body.

00:52:29.766 --> 00:52:31.929
No, it was really good.

00:52:31.929 --> 00:52:32.731
What did you think about it?

00:52:33.072 --> 00:52:33.773
I really liked it.

00:52:33.773 --> 00:52:34.960
I liked that it was lighter as well.

00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:35.342
I really liked it.

00:52:35.342 --> 00:52:36.123
I liked that it was lighter as well.

00:52:36.123 --> 00:52:38.726
It would probably not be something that I would pick.

00:52:39.327 --> 00:52:44.994
No, but for a one-off or once in a great while kind of thing.

00:52:45.155 --> 00:52:45.856
Absolutely.

00:52:46.699 --> 00:52:47.382
Yeah, 100%.

00:52:47.382 --> 00:52:50.170
I am not a huge Oktoberfest beer fan.

00:52:50.170 --> 00:52:52.726
Yeah, just personal preference.

00:52:52.726 --> 00:52:56.699
I used to sell a fuck ton of Oktoberfest beers, especially.

00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:01.429
Is that Leidenkugel's Oktoberfest, or is Oktoberfest like a generalized?

00:53:01.570 --> 00:53:02.492
Generalized style.

00:53:02.713 --> 00:53:02.934
Okay.

00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.090
One of the ones I sold the most was Samuel Adams.

00:53:06.090 --> 00:53:08.927
That one is actually a very good one.

00:53:08.927 --> 00:53:14.291
So a lot of that, a lot of Leine's, a boatload of others.

00:53:14.291 --> 00:53:18.369
Of course as well Hacker Shore, but that's available year-round.

00:53:18.369 --> 00:53:27.028
That's from Germany, A lot of others I'm not going to go into all of them, obviously, but I just never was a huge.

00:53:27.028 --> 00:53:29.228
I'm also not a big lager fan.

00:53:29.228 --> 00:53:34.282
However, I've been drinking a lot of Coors Banquet lately, which is so.

00:53:34.282 --> 00:53:38.398
I think maybe that might have prepped me for this one a little bit.

00:53:38.659 --> 00:53:38.800
Yeah.

00:53:39.581 --> 00:53:40.827
But it was, it was delicious.

00:53:40.827 --> 00:53:42.527
I could actually rather enjoy it.

00:53:42.586 --> 00:53:46.590
so so I wanted to give a shout out real quick to Tony.

00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:50.286
Oh for our Shelton's episode, tony.

00:53:51.309 --> 00:53:51.648
No.

00:53:52.110 --> 00:53:52.592
Different Tony.

00:53:52.612 --> 00:53:53.213
Different Tony.

00:53:53.213 --> 00:53:58.331
So Shelton, the Shelton Brothers gang, tony that he is from Peoria.

00:53:58.431 --> 00:53:59.393
Illinois, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:04.733
I am speaking about Tony from Iowa, des Moines.

00:54:04.733 --> 00:54:06.347
I think he's in Des Moines, iowa.

00:54:06.347 --> 00:54:15.574
He is a listener of ours and he actually grew up in Nebraska with my brother's family.

00:54:15.614 --> 00:54:17.360
Oh that Tony, yeah, my brother, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:17.481 --> 00:54:25.293
Yes, and I have not seen Tony in many, many, many a year you haven't seen that, yeah.

00:54:25.293 --> 00:54:37.907
But he is still very, very close with my brother and my sister-in-law and my parents just love him, and so just wanted to say hi, tony, thank you so much for listening.

00:54:37.907 --> 00:54:41.704
Please send in one of your favorite historical stories.

00:54:41.704 --> 00:54:48.646
We'd love to do one for you thank you, tony I don't know, or a beer.

00:54:48.887 --> 00:55:04.427
Tell us what kind of beer you like yes, and we'll get one of those as well so as long as we can get it here as long as we can get it here, as long as we can get it in eastern Wisconsin or figure out a way to ship it to Kate, and then we'll have it on this podcast there you go, there you go.

00:55:04.568 --> 00:55:05.090
Figure it out.

00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:05.610
Well.

00:55:06.271 --> 00:55:09.485
I suppose All right, buffoons, that's it for today's episode.

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