I Don't Do Nautical Things: Submarine R-14

0:15 Oh, hey there. Oh, hey there. Started first. How are you? I'm the history buffoons. So am I. I'm Bradley. I'm Kate. I am well. And we are the History Buffoons. As said previously in this exchange. I am well too. Thank goodness. I was I was nervous. I was on the edge of my seat. I'm really not. I'm all the way back for lumbar support, but um, either way. That is so important. Well, you would know you're a licensed massage therapist. I have to have lumbar support all the time now because my car too. My pelvis is tilted anteriorly, so towards the front. So I have a little curve in my back and it is painful.

0:59 And you got this confirmed because you work at a chiropractic office giving massages for because you're an LMT, and you had you get services through your work, which is great, and you had that confirmed. It's like, well, that makes sense. That makes sense. That's why I'm hurting. That makes so much sense. Yeah, so no, I I get it. That's lumbar is important. It's funny. My I had my mom and my brother and my niece over was it two weeks ago or give or take. And my mom hasn't been to my house in a long time. Not because I don't like my mom, it's just didn't work with my dad. You visit her. I visit her well more than they come down here. Yeah. Because we live about 45 minutes away from each other. And so they came down.

1:39 My brother picked her up because she just doesn't really drive long distances anymore, and that's fine. But um, she had never seen my couches, and they all have lumbar support that you can use. And so I put it on, she's like, Oh, that's nice. Like, yes, yes, it is. Oh my. I'm like, you can put your legs up. She's like, No. I'm like, you can put lumbar. She's like, Yes. I'm like, all right. I remember sitting at my um breakfast bar, I guess, part of the kitchen, you know. At your parents? Yeah. And my mom would come up and just shove her finger into our back so we would be like, whoop, and like set up straight. She knew what she was doing. Well, okay. Thanks, Moi.

2:20 Oh, and real quick, I wanted to mention that someone had corrected us on the pronunciation. Of Tungusta. Yes. Is that how it was sent to us? Well, our last origin of weird was on the Tungusta um event. Yeah. Which is um pronounced Tungusta, and I said Tungusta. So um there was a a person in South Carolina who said it was Tungusta, so thank you very much. Myrtle Beach. Okay. Represent. No, we actually, even though I was correcting us, which I'm perfectly fine with, I'm super fucking happy. We got a fan mail. I'm like, sweet. Thank you, random person.

3:02 I have the weirdest looking beer ever. Alright, so can I start this off? Even though I just said I have the weirdest looking beer ever? I didn't say I was gonna start off with my beer. Can I talk about it? Yeah, for this fuck's sake. Jesus Christ. So we as anyone who might listen to this podcast, tell we love you. Thank you very much. I like to get random beers for us, and so does Kate, for podcasting. I've seen this one before. Yours. Okay. I've seen this one before, and I'm like, and I walked past it again twice. I thought about it the first time, I went and looked at other stuff, and I'm like, no, I'm getting that.

3:45 And it's funny, so I saw this and I picked this specifically out for Kate and read and show what you got. It's called hot dog lager. But you gotta read the rest of it too. Made for hot dogs, not with them. So does that mean like beer brats kind of a thing? Or are you calling me a hot dog? That'd be weird. But what it what it means is have a hot dog and a beer. That sounds delicious, doesn't it? Okay, so the back of my beer says, Well, hot dog. What we have here is delightfully light, crispy goodness that is an American, as American as hot dogs in baseball, brewed with the finest barley, corn, and rice to lend a distinctive light body, and a healthy dose of Hallertoe.

4:38 Hallertoe hops. Hallertoe hops for that satisfying zip on the finish. Yep. So it is gluten removed. Uh either way. For for those who need to know, from Greendale, Wisconsin. Yep. It's so it's a local beer. What where's Greendale? Uh, it's uh roughly 30 or so give or take minutes east-ish, a little north of where I am, I live and where we are recording this right now. So, like near-ish Madison, or not quite that far east. I I said east. Madison is west. That's right. Towards the lake, Lake Michigan. Where's north? That way.

5:20 East is behind me. Okay, let's talk about your beers. Madison is over there. Anyways. So I used to sell this beer, and I'm pretty sure you know this. I love vampires. Vampires are one of my favorite creatures of the night and all that. Dracula. Dracula. I love Dracula. Which brings me into my beer. Nosferatu. Sorry. So you can see that. It's by Great Lakes Brewery. Uh Brewing Company, sorry. They're out of idea. They're out of Ohio. Great Lakes? Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, they're all over here. Well, but I guess I didn't know they had that one. Yeah.

6:00 It's they make some pretty good beers. Is this like a Halloween or fall-ish? Yeah. Okay. It's a it's a release this time of year because of Halloween and so on. Yeah. Uh, but it's a double red IPA. It's eight percent. Holy shit! Yeah, it's got some kick to it. Uh, but it's funny. So in my shitty old age, I'm gonna read you this. Now playing, sink your teeth into a rich, roasty, red double IPA with a frighteningly delectable hop bite. Oh, like I said, eight percent bite. I'll take a bite out of that. One of my favorite movies is Nosferatu, which is the the original. Okay, the original. But the new one?

6:41 Oh my gosh! So good. So good. Um I loved the new Nosferatu. Oh my god, I just lost his name. The kid who played Nosferatu. He played Pennywise. Pennywise and it. Uh Skarsgard. Yeah, what's what's his first name though? I am so drawn up like goddamn. Steven Star Steven Stefan. Starsgard. Star is it Stefan? Skard. Because Alexander's his older brother. Stellan. Stellan. That's goddamn. Okay. Bill Skarsgard is like the big famous guy. He's the matriarch. Alexander Starsgard is from True Blood. Well, he's from more than that, but yes. Yes, Stellen. Did you know that Alexander Skarsgard is from uh oh my god, uh, Zoolander?

7:25 Uh-uh. He's in that movie. Stellan Skarsgard is Pennywise. Pennywise, yes. Who is Nosferatu, and he is brilliant. And I I like him a lot. He is fantastic. Weird throaty thing he did with the voice. So great. And if you have not seen the new Nosferatu, go see it. Go see it. It's it's lovely. It's worth at least a watch. Okay. I kind of want to watch that now. Same. Let's let's crack this open. Cheers to us, History Buffoons. Cheers. Cheers. Ooh, interesting. Gosh, it tastes like hot dogs. Hot dog flavored water and that's the worst.

8:09 Chocolate starfish in a hot dog flavored water. That's a lip mist could help them. No, I'm kidding. It's good. Yeah, I like that. How how light is it for being a light logger? It's light. It's light. Yeah, it's like it's like a bed light, cooers light. Yeah, definitely. It's that bad. Oh, sorry. No, it's good. No, I I figured it would be on the lighter side, but I I just thought it was funny because it's hot dog logging. Hot dog. So I had to get that for you. Yeah, that was great. Um, so I have two of these, and then we've also mentioned I'm so jealous. Why? Because you have this and I don't in front of me. No, I have more for us. Oh, good. I just have one. Okay. Well, you're just you're interrupting.

8:49 Sorry. All right. What do you got for me today? Tell the people what they want to hear. We got more of that. Was it called Domingo? Domingo? Uh yeah, Domingo. We so we sampled this on the last. Um I think my parents would like that. They might. It's a paloma grapefruit paloma, which is kind of redundant because all palomas are grapefruit, as far as I'm concerned. I could be wrong because I'm a little wrong a lot. Anyways, um, we had that on uh I think we had New Belgium last episode. But we had some of those that came in a variety pack and they were so good. Yeah, so we had pleasantly surprised. We had a variety pack and we chose two other ones for our last podcast.

9:32 Yep. And this one was part of it, and we're like, oh shit, this is delicious. And we were kind of disappointed that like we're just hanging out talking about the podcast, and we had we we shared these uh because it came with three, and I think yes, I had to, you had to, I don't remember even, but we're like, oh my god, these are really good. Yeah. So when I was it's like an ale fresca. So good. But so we tried something else too, because just to compare it, because we couldn't find a six pack of this because where we were looking just didn't have it. Um we tried something else, it was very good, but I like this one better. Yeah. So when I was looking for beers for the for us for today's episode, I saw that I'm like, I gotta pick a six pack up because we were we were trying to after we had these, they were so good.

10:19 I feel like we're rambling. Let's get into it. We are gonna go back to World War II because it is my favorite era to learn about. But this one is um strictly about a submarine sandwich. Oh, that does sound good. That sounds delicious. We're gonna go aboard the USS R14. R14. Yes. So on a scale of one to ten, and I might even put like a meter on the screen for this. Depressing level, where are we at? Seven. Oh fuck. That high? Oh, sorry, three. Okay, Jesus Christ. Do you not know how scales work?

11:00 Ten is the highest. I would say about a three. So the majority of this is gonna be about the the USSR 14, which is a zero on your scale, but there is a little side story that could be like it could you know. It bumps it up, and then the average is like a three. So, like if there if we associate it with like a a uh earthquake, it would bump it up three on the Richter scale kind of thing with that side story. It was a bad analogy. I wanted to move on. Okay, so the USSR 14 was an R-class coastal and harbor defense submarine.

11:40 I never would have guessed the R part of it with the name, but all right. It was commissioned in 1919 just after World War One. Wow, okay. Okay, so she was not a giant submarine um by submarine standards. Yeah, it was about 186 feet long and 18 feet wide. Okay. On the surface, she okay. The amount of additional research I had to do about boats in general is massive. Okay. Sure. So some of the things that I'm talking about, I have an explanation for because I like I didn't know what that meant.

12:20 No, that's I mean, I'm glad you looked into it because I probably will have questions. So stop moving. So she displaced about 570 tons. Now, what the fuck does that mean? It means the submarine weighed enough to push aside 570 tons of seawater when floating. So, like going, going, and this is submerged? Is that right? This is above water. Oh, so they're at the the sea level, whatever. Okay, okay. So it's basically the water being pushed aside.

13:03 Think about like the movie Titanic when they show the ship moving and the water just kind of spoke. Yeah, and they're and the dolphins are like, I'm trying to keep up, I'm trying to keep up, I'm trying to keep up. Anyways, so it's basically like that. Yes, so it displaced about 570 tons. Now, when submerged, yeah, it displayed 680 tons. That's quite a bit more. It is still considered lightweight compared to other submarines. So do you have another class to compare it to or no? No. Okay, cool. No, yeah, that seems like something that would be just additional fleets displaced more. So 1919. Wow. So submarines can adjust their weight by filling or emptying the ballast ballast tanks, exactly, with seawater.

13:50 Yep. So when diving, the tanks would fill with water, therefore heavier, therefore, more tons of water displaced. Sure, that makes sense. Yeah, because they have to fill it up to sink and they release it to float. So yeah. So the R14 was powered by two diesel engines. That's wild to think about. Yeah. Where did the exhaust go? When they're underwater. Does it just go into the water? Into the water? I wonder. Right? Isn't that don't wouldn't you think that's kind of weird? Because like I mean, it wouldn't have reached surface. So yeah. It's not like they have an exhaust pipe to go up that far. No, nor would they have that in their submarine.

14:32 No. So that's I won I wonder how that worked. I'm I'm not looking, I don't want you to look it up right now. I'm just curious. Yeah. So uh so it was powered by two diesel engines, okay, driving generators, and battery-powered electric motors. So it was a standard diesel electric setup. Crazy. Okay. So this gave her a top speed of about 13 and a half knots on the surface, which is about 15 and a half miles per hour. Gotcha. So about two miles per hour more than knots. So that's how you figure out that we don't know.

15:12 We're not sure. But 10 and a half knots submerged, so maybe it's around 12 and a half miles per hour. That's not exactly right. But either way. So obviously it makes sense why it's slower or submerged because it's got more drag with the water and everything. Yeah. And it's it's not a 100% cylinder because there's obviously a tower on the top and so on. It is a tower, which we are gonna talk about. Oh, nice. Yes, but obviously that's gonna create more drag underwater because when you're above water, it's more or less just the cylinder portion, not the tower. So yeah, I get why it would slow down, but could you imagine that's still gotta be pretty quick, even underwater? So aerodynamics.

15:54 Wow. So depth-wise, yes, she was built to dive around 200 feet. Wow, okay. Yeah, which is about 61 meters. Okay. Safely. She can go lower. It ain't so safe. Not so safely. She had four torpedo tubes. I love I love how our first episode comes back to us once in a while. Torpedo tubes. Torpedo tubes. And she had a three-inch deck gun on the bow. Okay. Bow? Bow, not the bow. Oh, sorry. I don't do nautical things.

16:37 The bow. Spelled like bow. So can that be our title? I don't I don't do nautical things. That's the front runner in my book right now. And I know we got a ways to go, but that's fantastic. So the R-14 was modestly armed. Okay. Because it was for training. So it had a gun on the bow and then torpedo tubes. Or it had torpedo tubes and a bow gun. But anyways, what else did it have? Is that it? That's pretty much it. Okay. Um, yeah, so um submarines heard they often weren't engaged in targets on the surface.

17:23 I mean they're they're meant for they're meant for underwater warfare. Yes. Obviously. They're meant for stealth because they're underwater and it's hard to fucking see. You're like, I'm gonna get that boat. Boat. I'm gonna fill up my torpedo tubes. Okay, so the R-14, yeah. It had a crew of two officers and 27 enlisted men. Seamen? Yes. Okay. So 29 people crammed in this 186-foot sub. Do you know what I always really find funny? Like, especially in like old older timey movies, even like Pirates of the Caribbean kind of thing, like had 29 souls on that ship.

18:07 Yeah. I just always find that funny. But anyway, sorry. So let's just say the living conditions weren't that great. You would say they're not ideal. Not ideal. No, because that's pretty cramped quarters. You said 18 feet wide. I'm like, if I laid down three times, I am longer than that. By nine inches. So I I'm tall, but holy fuck, because obviously it's just not a cylinder and nothing in it. There's other shit in here. Lots of stuff in there. That's just its fucking width with other stuff in there. Oh, I couldn't imagine, like, excuse me, I gotta use the John. Yeah. Gotta hit the head. You know what I'm saying? That's that's a saying to go to the bathroom.

18:48 But, anyways, um that's what my dad always said, because he was a navy manager. He was a navy manager. Yep. But I was gonna reach for my beer, but it's in the turn of my legs. Well, you know, I mean so in 1920s subs. What? In nineteen twenties, submarines. Okay, because that sounded weird the first time you said it. I'm like, wait, what? Luxury, quote unquote, yeah, yeah, yeah. Meant having a small electric fan. Oh god. So was it pretty steamy inside? Super steamy. There's no air conditioning. Um, they were intended for coastal defense, meaning that they weren't designed for very long voyages, right?

19:31 That makes sense. Far out at sea. Sure. Okay. That makes sense. So they had a range of about 3,700 nautical miles at 10 knots on the surface. Okay. I said 10 and a half earlier. 10, yeah. Give or take. So enough to get around like the Pacific Islands or along a coast, but small fuel storage compared to like longer, large, excuse me, larger ocean going ships or subs. Yes. So or or whatever. Whatever. Nautical things. So you know, nautical things. Nautical things. Oh so the USS R 14 was built as like a stubby workhorse.

20:14 It was reliable in coastal waters, but never meant to like circumnavigate the globe. Obviously not. It was meant for short range, more or less. Yes, basically. And what did you say? Stubby what? Workhorse? Yeah, I think stubby workhorse is second in line for the title. Stubby workhorse. The R14, stubby workhorse. So to visualize R14. Um picture like a steel cigar. Sure, yeah. Okay. Yes, with like and then it had like a little coning tower.

20:57 Now, a coning tower, C O N N I N G coning. Yeah. It's basically the submarine's bridge. Oh, sure. Okay. So the race section you would see like sticking up from the hull. So, and you can obviously only use this set bridge when you're at surface. Surface, yeah. Okay. Surface level, yeah. Yes. So this is where the periscope, the compass, and controls for steering and driving were located in early submarines. Okay, sure. Yeah, yeah. So as I said earlier, she had a diesel electric engine system. Yep. Diesel for surface cruising and electric batteries for underwater. Well, that kind of answers what I said before.

21:37 Where does the exhaust go? But they only they only use the electric. Oh, okay. That makes more sense, though. It makes more sense. I didn't read ahead. Well, that that always makes sense. But no, that makes sense because obviously surface going, diesel, they have the exhaust, so on. When they submerge, use the electric. Okay. That totally makes sense. It does make sense. You know what else makes sense? Beer. Going to the bathroom after having beers. So we're back. I had to take a pee. Um back again. I when I was washing my hands, I noticed somewhere I have a I have a a mark.

22:22 Other side. This this side. Your cup cupper cup cupping side? Yeah. So if we're watching on YouTube, this is a cupping mark, not a hickey. No, we we've we've talked about it before, haven't we? Yeah. I had like a major knot in my upper trap here, and cupping just helps me so much. So that's a cupping mark. No, and that's one thing I love about you being a licensed massage therapist. You know, we've talked about it. My arm uh fucked up with my son. Well, um literally next month will be seven fucking years. Uh, it's still hers. I literally can feel it right now, and I'll have you cut my arm from time to time because it helps relieve that muscle for a bit.

23:03 Not forever, obviously, but for a bit. Yeah, it's a good modality. Yeah, no, we've we've talked about that. So okay. So yes. So as I said, diesel for surface cruising and electric batteries for underwater. That makes so much more sense now. So yeah, okay. So on the surface, the engines um charged the batteries and propelled the ships. Sure, makes sense, yeah. While underwater, she ran on the battery power, which was standard practice then and now. Oh, they still do that to this day? Oh wow. Maybe not all of them. Well, because some are nuclear, which is a little bit different, right? Sounds intense. Or true, but okay.

23:44 Her surface speed of 13 and a half knots wasn't lightning or anything, but it did beat most earlier sub. So it was still like for its time it was. For its time, it was still good, yeah. Pretty good, yeah. So a there's a photograph from 1921 who that actually shows a crewman casually working on bow planes, and I'll insert a picture here. Bow planes, okay. Bow planes on the um nope. Bow planes or nautical and things. Bow planes. A crewman working on bow planes. It's spelled like bow, and I've always heard it as bow because I'm not a nautical person who says bow.

24:28 So here's the thing with that. It's clearly bow. But I read bow. That's that sounds like a you problem. Maybe if I typed it out as B-A-U-G-H, I would say bow. No, you'd be like bugger. Boogie? This is so funny because you laughed at that. That was great. He he worked on the booger. Okay, so the the bowel planes are horizontal. Did I say it wrong? No, you said it right. I just thought it was funny that you actually got it right. That's why I laughed. The bow planes are horizontal fins mounted near the front or the bow of the submarine.

25:15 Right. So they like come off the the front. Okay. So these are actually planes that like take off from the submarine? Nope. They're fins. Oh, fins on the submarine. Oh, I'm sorry. Is it just literally because it looks like an airplane if you look at it kind of thing? Yeah. Okay. Um, they work like airplane wings, but underwater. Right, right, right, right. Okay, that makes more sense now. All right. Instead of controlling altitude in the sky, they control depth in the water. Yes. Okay. So this guy had no harness, no safety line while the sub was basically running. So the safety standards back then were pretty well.

25:57 This is pre-OSHA because radium girls, but anyways. Exactly right. So tough men on these boats. They did a thing or two. Can I interject real quick? I love that we can reference other episodes. That's how long we've done this so far, and I've enjoyed every single one of them. Perfect. I'm glad. So, anyways. So, despite the R14's small size, it did play a role in advancing submarine tactics. Okay. Really? So after commissioning, she sailed to from excuse me, from New England to the Pacific Fleet, arriving at Pearl Harbor in September of 1920. Oh, wow. Yeah.

26:38 So just within a year from being within a year. Like built, basically. Okay, wow. So she participated in exercises to improve submarine warfare techniques and anti-submarine tactics. Sure. Um, the R-14 had other sister subs in the R class that helped Navy figure out how to use um the subs better, how to sink them, um, during like the intra-war period, so peacetime period. They're like going through all of this. It's between one and two, obviously. I mean, I mean, two didn't really well, especially for us, didn't start for 22 years at this point. Exactly. But um isn't it wild to think they were doing this over a hundred fucking years ago in a submarine?

27:20 I know. Because like flight was still pretty fucking brand new at this point. Like literally, you had in World War One, you had biplanes. Like the um, I always think of Snoopy in the what what do they call him? Fuck, I'm drawing a blank. But in the Red Baron, you know, all that stuff, like the pizza. But it's like, holy shit, this was like literally a hundred and five years ago. That is wild to think about. That there's you had literally people a hundred and five years ago under the fucking water, and they're like, Yeah, we're cool. And here we are talking about it 105 years later, educating people. Well, me and Al.

28:01 I told one of my my clients about this story. He was fascinated. Was he? Yeah, good, because we're just talking about the the the boat, not the actual action of what I'm gonna talk about. Like we're just talking about the submarine at this point. No, and it's funny because like I I told you I was training my the my new guy Brandon. He I really enjoy working with him, and he he's I got him onto our podcast, and he's like, that's pretty cool. So it's funny because like he'll he'll like make comments about did you spill me. He'll make comments. Hot dog water. Hot dog water. And uh, you know, he's it's it I like that we can, you know, yes, he knows me, so that's I feel kind of oh it's not a random person, but I still like it.

28:50 It's great. Anyways. Okay, so yes, R14 also took part in occasional search and rescue operations. Where at? Um off the coast of Hawaii in the islands. Nice. So in May 1921, okay, this vessel turned into a naval legend. How so? Do tell. Oh, I will tell you. So the R-14, um this cruiser was recruited to search for a missing tugboat. A missing tugboat? The USS Conestoga.

29:30 Conestoga. How important was this tugboat? Well, it had secret documents. Sorry, 56 souls. 56 souls. That's a lot of souls. This is funny because that's like what pirates would say. Ah, she's got 56 souls on that. Whatever. So the Conestoga was a Navy fleet tug. Okay, an AT 54. For those who know about this. Kind of shit. And this was they were in Hawaii, or they just did stuff in Hawaii and this is not part of Hawaii. I so I'm sorry. No, that's okay. No, that's okay.

30:11 So um the R-14 is in Hawaii. Correct. The Conestoga is leaving from California to Hawaii. Oh, so it's heading there. Okay, perfect, perfect. Sorry. So that's okay. So this fleet tug uh was a stout um ocean going tugboat used to tow ships and barges. Sure, sure. And it had mysteriously vanished. Like ghost ship kind of thing? Like, no. It was never found. No. It was never found. Did they find it eventually with the perhaps not. Maybe so. I don't know. Well s well, I do know. That's one thing I do know.

30:51 Okay. I'm so proud of you for knowing something. It was part of my research. Oh, thank God. That is that is a snippet I will take and use over and over because that is the first and shut the fuck up. Wow. Oh my dear. Okay. Yes. In March of 1921, the Navy ordered the Conestoga to steam from California. Correct. Okay. Um, from California to American Samoa in the South Pacific, where it was needed as a station ship. Okay. So America Samoa, if you don't know because I didn't, is roughly halfway between Hawaii and New Zealand.

31:36 Yes. So Fiji is like over there. That water is so delicious. Kidding. I have a bad story about that, but not for not for now. Enough for now. So on March 25th, 1921, the Conestoga departed San Francisco's Golden Gate, heading for Pearl Harbor for the first leg of its journey. Because like I said, they're going to American Samoa. And you're going past Hawaii. Correct. Yep, yep. So there are 56 all officers and sailors aboard. There it is. Thank you. After it left San Francisco. So 56, that's more than normal.

32:16 Oh no, this is the tugboat. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm confusing the amount of people uh on the sub compared to the tugboat. I apologize. My bad. That's okay. I can open up another beer now. Let's do it. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. Cheers to another. I'm so jealous you have the Domingo right now. I know. But I do like my little lager, my hot dog lager. Not bad, right? Yeah, like it. So I am glad I also have a domingo because if I had any more Nosferatu, I might not make it to the end of this. Okay. They are 8%, and I am feeling that. So okay. I'm glad you stopped. Okay. So after it left San Francisco, Conestoga simply never arrived at Pearl Harbor.

32:58 Okay. Now, if you you've been there, yes. Pearl Harbor is on Oahu, which is not the big island. Correct. So it's like two or three in uh islands to the west. Sure. Okay. So the conestog Conestoga was set to arrive at Pearl Harbor by early to mid-April 1921. Okay. By late April 1921. No no go. No conestoga. Okay, so they're like, um, we got an issue. We have an issue. Houston, we have a problem. Alarm bells went off. The Navy launched a massive air and sea search around the Hawaiian Islands.

33:42 Okay. As they assumed the tug must have like run into trouble closer to its destination. Not further away. Correct. Which is interesting. The R-14 and several other ships and submarines were assigned sectors to scour the ocean for any sign of the tug truck. Sure. Makes sense, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like a grid system almost. Perfect. For the most, yeah. Yeah. So May 1921, the Pacific Ocean, about 100, 140 miles southeast of Hawaii. Okay. The USSR 14 is chugging along the wave on the surface on a mission to find this missing tugboat. Yeah. So it's hot. There's a tropical sun um beating down on the submarine.

34:24 I have no doubt. Trouble strikes. Uh what happened? The R-14's engines sputter and die. And they're they're they're at surface level at this point. 100 to 140 miles away from Hawaii. Oh, I mean, that's quite a bit. Man, if you can picture where Hawaii is, there ain't much around. There's literally nothing around. Not much. Nothing. So the sub had run out of usable fuel. It turned out that seawater had contaminated the fuel supply. Oh shit, really? Yes. And I had to figure out why.

35:05 How? Okay. The USS 14 ran on diesel fuel. Correct. Stored in tanks inside the pressure pressure hole. Oh. And sometimes in external tanks called saddle tanks. Yeah. Now these external tanks were partially exposed to seawater, separated only by valves and seals. Oh shit. So did a seal break? So if a seal had no seal. And it would just allow seawater. Yes. If one valve gap gasket or fuel cap wasn't sealed perfectly, seawater could seep into the sink into the tank when the sub was submer submerged or rolling in heavier seas.

35:52 Sure. Wow. That yeah, that's not good. Yeah. Because that's fucking up your gas diesel. Yeah. Right away. That was like my biggest like, how the heck did that happen? I was like, oh, seals and valves. Wait a minute. No, and and that instantly will fuck your your fuel source because it's mixing with something it obviously should not be mixing with. Nope. And is not gonna run properly or at all. Or at all. So to make matters worse, because of course they have. Well, yeah, their radio had failed. How? Oh boy. They could not call for help.

36:32 Oh dear. Bad day. No engine, no radio, 100 to 140 miles from the nearest port. I like that. Bad day. Bad day. R14 was basically a 600-ton cork bobbing in the middle of the Pacific in dead ass water. So just like bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. Jaws coming? Bottom bottom. So but they were they were at sea level. Yes. Thank goodness for that at least. Yes. Right? Well, so they use the diesel on the surface and the electricity underneath.

37:14 Yes. However, they really didn't have power underneath either. Well, because the diesel generated the batteries for the electric, and if you don't have that, you're not generating energy for the batteries. The crew checked the batteries. Yeah. Electric batteries alone did not have enough juice to propel her all the way to Hawaii. So they were too far out. So to add pressure, the R14 had food food provisions for only about five days. Oh shit. So if they did nothing, they drip drift helpless help helpless helplessly, perhaps for weeks, with starvation looming.

38:00 Uh cannibalism. The likely cannibalism, am I right? The likely, the likelihood of a random ship passing in this area to rescue them is basically zero. Some no none, yeah. Yeah. It was a dire situation. So they were in dire straits. Dire straits. Good band. Got my money for nothing and my chicks for free. It's such a good song. So it was at this moment that the officers and chief petty officers put their heads together. They probably hit each other, but that's fine. Well, they didn't have much room. Probably not. They decided on a solution that was pretty unorthodox for the time. The 20s?

38:40 They said, let's sail back to Hawaii. So they put up a sheet? A few. Uh attention. Attention. We need all crew members, please bring your sheets. Sheets to the deck. To the to the bow. Shut up. We need to erect a sail. Okay. That is all. Desperate times call for desperate measures, right? I mean, can you blame them? Not at the end. They're trying to figure out, like, hey, we are fucked right now.

39:21 And luckily, again, they're at the surface. Because I don't know if you know this, but wind doesn't blow below water. Um, so if they're erecting a sail from sheets or whatever they have, at least they're at the surface. And like you said, desperate times call for desperate measures, you gotta figure something fucking out. You're like, we are on our way to Hawaii. We're trying to get back to Hawaii. We left Hawaii. When was Hawaii a state? Not 1921. I was gonna say like 49. I was gonna say 59. Uh uh we're so wrong because we had Pearl Harbor in 42.

40:02 Shut up. Okay. Why but what why such hostage? July 7th. Wait, Hawaii was officially annexed by the United States on July 7th, 1898. 1898? And then they made the islands part of the United States on August 12th, 1898. That seems like that is so long ago. That is wait. When was it a state though? 1898. You're saying it's annexed then, but when was it a state? Oh, here we go, here we go. Mother, I didn't I didn't keep reading. No, you did clearly did not. 1959.

40:42 What did I say? You said 59, I said 49. So we had Pearl Harbor, and it wasn't even a state yet? So fucking shocked I got that. Everybody is so fucking shocked. I know, I know, I know. I can't believe you're still alive right now without that knowledge. Oh my god, 1959. Look at that. Boom, boom, baby. Okay, you need to calm the fuck down that you got one thing right. Hey, Kate, can I ask you a question real quick? Don't know. When is Pearl Harbor? You were gonna say that. Tell me the date. December 7th. Only because we literally brought this up earlier.

41:24 1921. She still thinks this is a sixth. Shh. She only knows it's a seventh because I corrected her earlier already today. Today. Literally today. Okay, let's let's get back to it. Okay, so I was trying. The crew immediately got to work. Okay. Improvising sails from wherever they could find. So, how did they erect like a mast? Let me tell you. I'm sorry. I I am the one who asks questions. You don't have to get mad at me for asking said questions. Like you could have been instead of let me tell you. Let me tell you.

42:04 That's a great question, Bradley. We're not even halfway through the story. Well, I have a lot to edit out, so don't worry about it. Why I like the Italian, like, well, what's a little boot? What's it a little? I don't mean that was like Italian-Canadian, but either. So they took eight canvas hammocks and sewed them together to make a for-sale. A what? A for sale. A front. This house is for sale? F-O-R-E. S-A-A-S-A-I-L.

42:44 Like for for sale. Like I'm golfing and yes, exactly. So it is a front sail that catches the wind first. I'd hope so. Okay. I hate the back ones that catch it last. For a yard arm. Yard arm. It is a horizontal pole that stretches across a ship's mass. Okay. They put together some spare pipe bunk bed frames. Oh shit. They literally took apart their dismantled their beds. They dismantled their beds. Jesus Christ. Wow. I mean, I guess it makes sense, though. It does. Because they needed everything they could use to help themselves.

43:26 Yes. At this point. Okay. So they secured this pole upright to the sturdy torpedo loading crane on the foredeck. No. Torpedo. No. A torpedo loading crane. It's a small deck mounted crane. Okay. Or hoist used to lift the torpedoes into the submarine. Right, right, right, right. So I had to do all this extra research. I'm like, what's the foresail? What's the f what's a yard arm? I like how you're like, look at me, but it's like, way to go. Do your job. Anyways. Okay. So once raised, the improvised foresale actually caught the breeze.

44:06 And the R14 began to creep, and I mean creep like TLC. Forward. And I creep. That was my fault. I'm sorry, everybody. I'm I apologies. She yells at me to get back on it. So let's get back on it here. So that was about one knot of speed. Oh my god. Could you imagine how slow that fucking felt? Like literally creeping. That's a very gentle walking piece. Oh my god. That's like. Yes. Let's go with that. Yes. With some forward motion, they regained rudder control.

44:47 So the sub could be steered towards land instead of drifting aimlessly. So did they not have control prior to the not with no power, essentially. I mean, I guess that makes sense because uh I guess that makes sense because I don't even know what to say right now. Holy shit. Okay. I am still releasing the burp track. God damn. So the sub could be steered towards land instead of drifting aimlessly. Okay, so the crew pieced together a main sail out of six blankets, literally raiding every bunk for bedding.

45:32 Well, I mean, what else are you gonna get from? I mean, you're on a fucking submarine. You'd be like, hey guys, sorry, we need this. So they hoisted this blanket sail on um the mass, which was a sturdy steel pole near the conning tower. What's the coning tower? That was the bridge. That's okay. That was the bridge. So this map, this mast wasn't always there, though. Did they have to build this as well, right? Out of bed bunk frames. That's okay. I'm sorry. Yep, yep, yep. That was me. So with the second sail catching wind, the R14 speed by jumped a whole other half knot.

46:20 Half knot. We're talking about 1.5 knots in total. But you know what? That's better than zero knots. Exactly. Because they were dead in the water otherwise. And then they made a third sail. So they three fucking sails on a submarine? Three sails made out of more blankets, blankets, and hammock canvas. Wow, okay. And the third sail was tied to another jerry-rigged boom on the aft part of the tornado. Nope. Torpedo tube? I don't know. Maybe tornado tube is the title, but either way.

47:01 But this added another 0.5 knots. So they're up to two we are up to two knots or approximately 2.3 miles per hour under sail. But still at water, that still feels a lot different than in land. Exactly. Wow. That's it's wild it took that much to get them even to that fast. But I mean, like you said, they had to figure out something. Exactly. Because they were stranded otherwise. So the crew who likely had minimal sailing experience are now essentially acting as deck hands on this like jerry reaged sailboat. Yeah, but at the same time, it's like, yes, they're submarine folks, but they're still seafaring people.

47:49 So they adapted, right? I mean, it's just funny that it's so different, obviously, because obviously submarine underwater, typically. Yes, it can surface and so on, but it was like we are fucked. We are now sailors. Yeah. It's just it's wild to like see that like transformation, be like, we gotta do what we gotta do, guys. Get your shit, get your what was it? The bunk bed hands for the mast. Yeah, the bunk bed frames. Yeah, the frames and then the sails and stuff that had to build. I mean, good for them to like adapt, yeah, basically, because otherwise you're literally fucked. Yeah. So it was an all-hands-on-deck situation.

48:32 Below decks, it was unbearable unbearably hot with no engine running. Yep, they couldn't use ventilation fans or any for any fear of like draining their battery. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. So the ingenuity did not stop. It just sales bread. No, it did not. On May 12th. Jesus Christ. Okay. Two days into the Odyssey, some crew members noticed that the sub's twin propellers weren't working. Were slowly windmilling as the water flowed past them under the sail.

49:15 They weren't being turned by power, they were being turned by the ocean. Yeah. So why not use the spinning propellers to generate electricity? Well, yeah, makes sense. Exactly. So normally a submarine's propellers spin because the engines are running. Right. And that spinning pushes the sub forward. But if the spin, if the sub is already moving because of the sails, correct, water rushes past the propellers and makes them spin. Exactly. So how do they hook those up to the battery? Somehow they hook up the propeller shafts to the generators.

49:58 Yeah. And got a charge going to the batteries. That's wild. I mean, good for good for some ingenuity. Yeah. Such ingenuity. Good for somebody to recognize what what is happening. Like, hey, we got our sales going, but look at that, man. Yeah. Propellers are moving. I think we can use that. We can use that. Right? Right. Are you repeating everything I say? Are you repeating everything? Okay, stop. So anyway, so I was gonna finish, but you can interrupt and say weird shit. Go on. So it was just a small trickle of power.

50:38 What? That was pretty cool, actually. I like that sound. I think that 8% is getting to you. I had a dominga. What's the the Dominga? 4.5. That's uh because you had two A percents. I really got a P. You got a P break, I get a P break. So it was just a small trickle of power, but it did recharge the sub's batteries while sailing. Oh, that's good. So, in a sense, R14 became a hybrid wind electric vehicle harnessing green energy before it was ever a thing.

51:22 Oh, there's so many people these days on a certain side that would be so excited about this. Good for them. Okay, so this was a lifesaver because it ensured that when they were finally near land, yeah, they would have enough battery power to like maneuver or even motor past like the last stretch. So if needed. Would they have to submerge for that power, or could they use that power when they're at surface? I think they did it at surface. Okay, fair enough. So for 64 hours over the course of five days. Yeah. 64 hours, goddamn. The R-14 crew the R-14's crew nursed their their submarine sailboat towards Hawaii.

52:08 Okay. It covered roughly 120 to 140 nautical miles. Jesus. At an agonizingly slow speed. Yeah. But it was steady. Steady winds are race. Look at look at the tortoise. They each day under sale eight undersale eight into their like meager food supply. Okay. But by day three, they still had a lot of ration left. So they were really, really positive that they were actually gonna make it through this. Sure. So finally on the morning of May 15th, 1921, they sighted the big island of Hawaii and approached Hilo Harbor.

52:49 And they're like, thank God. Mm-hmm. So once close to port, with their batteries partially charged, they removed the sails and use the electric motors for the final approach into Hilo. Okay. Okay. After nearly three days under sale, so it was like one day there, three, you know, three days under sale. Yep. US the USS R-14 glided into Hilo under their own power, under their own battery, safe and sound. It's just while they've made it there. And the crew of the R-14 had literally saved themselves by sailing a fucking submarine. That's crazy.

53:29 That is wild. It is believed to be the most unique story in the US Navy history. Well, rightly so. I mean, how many fucking people can say I sailed a submarine? Submarine? What the fuck? Because you're not supposed to do that. That ain't right. Because they're underwater vessels, if you will. Yep. And the fact that they had to sail it with literal sails. It's like, holy fuck, wait a minute. Blankets and hammocks. Yeah. What happened now? Boy, do I have a story to tell to you, sir? Buy me a pint and I will regale you with my tales of sails.

54:12 After a couple dafter days in Hilo. Yes. R14's sister submarine, the USS R12, arrived. How is R14 and R12 like I feel like R12 came first. Anyway, I'm kidding. You said sister. I mean they are sisters. 12 and 14. They're sisters. Where's 13? Did 13 run away to join the circus? 13 is still on the lookout for the Condostoga. Oh my god.

54:52 Poor poorly timed joke. So the USSR 12 arrived with fuel and supplies. Okay. So the crew refueled their sub. Okay. And got a good meal and some rest. And then they steamed back to Pearl Harbor, which is on Oahu. Yes. Under normal diesel power to get back to routine operations. You've never been to Hawaii, correct? Correct. We're going to fix that. We're going to take a buffoon trip. I'll bring my family. I've been there once. Okay. So I'm sorry. I wasn't done talking, but that's okay.

55:32 So the Conestoga, unfortunately, was nowhere near Hawaii. Okay. In reality, the tugboat met disaster much closer to California. Oh, sure. But nobody knew that at the time. Of why would they though? So the R-14 and the others were looking in the wrong direction, so to speak. So they found no trace during the 10-day search around Hawaii, both with the R-14 and then others. Right. So on May 17th, 1921, a merchant ship off of the coast of Mexico discovered a battered lifeboat with a faint letter C on its bow.

56:15 Oh dear. So this clue sparked hope that it might be the Conestoga leading to a new search down near Mexican waters. Dang them. It was a wild goose chase, but the lifeboat turned out to be like a false lead. It wasn't the same type of. It wasn't related to it. It wasn't related, yeah. So by the end of June 1921, no wreckage, no survivors were found, and the Navy declared the USS Conestoga loss with all hands. That's messed up. It's really sad. Yeah. This is that three-degree sadness.

56:55 Well, I mean, it's better than the 96th degree usually is. So, anyways, continue on. Newspapers across the country were captivated by the mystery. It was extremely rare for a U.S. Navy vessel to vanish without a trace in peacetime. Yeah, and it's during peacetime. Right. So, in fact, the the Conestoga was the last US Navy ship to be lost at sea in piss peacetime without any immediate explanation. Really? Okay. I never knew that. So the disappearance of the Conestoga remained one of the top mysteries in naval history for nearly 95 years.

57:37 Good lord. So 21? Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1921. Yeah, 1921. Sorry, I should have been more clear. No, that's okay. I don't do math. But it was 2016. Which is 95 years later. When they confirmed where the conestoga excuse me. Well, really, what happened to the conestoga? They could figure it out. Yeah. Okay. Maritime archaeologists and the NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, announced that they had found Conestoga's wreck near the Farallon Islands just off of San Francisco.

58:22 So they barely fucking made it. Barely. Wow. That's wild. Okay. They uh the tug uh boat sank not long after leaving California, nowhere near where the R-14 was looking. Why would they have known that though? They wouldn't have. Yeah. Yeah. So the evidence suggests that the Conestoga sailed into a vicious gale storm shortly after departure. If I'm not mistaken, San Francisco Bay can get a lot of those. I heard that, yeah. Yeah, if I I could be wrong, but I've been to San Francisco once. It was beautiful.

59:03 Went to Joe DiMaggio's steakhouse. Delicious. I didn't have to pay. Even better. Um but no, from what I understand, is like the weather in that bay can be pretty fucked up. Obviously, the whole story of Elcatraz with the people who escaped. They don't believe that ever happened. People claimed whatever, blah blah blah. So on sharks, so on. So I'm like, that bay is fucked up. There's a lot of weather that can happen. So I'm I'm I guess I'm not I don't know the circumstances of why they didn't make it past that, but it makes sense.

59:44 Yeah, it makes sense that it would be a gale. So, anyways. There were weather reports from March 25th, 1921, that show that winds in the Golden Gate area picked up from twenty three to forty miles an hour with very. Very rough seas. Yeah, that will that will fuck some shit up. Yeah, so the Conestoga maybe like have been towing a barge and radioed that she was in like a battling storm before all contact was lost. What did it so we're they were headed to Hawaii though? They were. That also seems like a really long voyage for a barge to do that. Again, I am not a seafaring person.

1:00:24 A tugboat. I'm sorry, a tugboat, not a barge. I don't know how long they were like with a barge, but yeah. But it's like that seems like a really long journey for a for a tugboat. Would you put a tugboat on top of a barge? But I don't know. Anyways. I'm gonna open this Dominga and I'm super excited about it. Good. Okay, so finally, yes, the wreck was found in about 189 feet of water. Wow, that's wild. Only three miles off southeast Fairlane Island, which lies about 30 miles west of San Francisco.

1:01:10 Okay. It appears the tugs captain tried to save the ship by heading for a protective cove at the island. So the the waters were just too choppy. Fierce. Yeah. Basically. Yeah, he was like, fuck. This is not good sailing weather. Let's head there and shit went south. And as a desperate move, that area is ringed with rocks and had claimed several ships beforehand. Not surprised, yeah. So tragically, the Conestoga never made it to safe harbor. She likely foundered in like the storm and all aboard, unfortunately, perished.

1:01:52 That's terrible. They found it in 2016. That's wild. And it finally gave some closure. Underwater videos show that the tugs hole, hull, hull, hole on the seabed, largely intact but covered with marine growth. Sure. And I will insert a picture here. All right. The evidence of the single three-inch deck gun and other features matched Conestoga's design. So they weren't like confused, like, could this be? They were like, this is it. This is it. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Obviously, you know, human remains were found. Well, not in the ocean. I mean, yeah.

1:02:33 Even in the Bay of San Francisco, that the water, seawater, everything, it eats away at everything. So anyway, sorry. And but the wreck, as of now, is a protected war grave. Oh, okay. Fair enough. Yeah. So by 1930, the R-class boats were aging and be being faced into secondary roles. Sure. So in December 1930, the R-14 departed Pearl Harbor for the last time, bound for the Atlantic. Oh. So she passed through the Panama Canal again and arrived at the New London, Connecticut in early 1931.

1:03:13 Okay. And through the 1930s, the R-14 served as a training submarine in the submarine school in New London. All right. So countless submariners got their first taste of undersea duty aboard the R-14 in those years. Right. By 1941, even though she was over two decades old, which is pretty ancient for a submarine. Yeah, at that time, yeah. The R-14 was still in service. Okay. In mid-1941, with World War II raging elsewhere. Yeah. But the U.S. not yet in fight. The Navy removed excuse me, the Navy moved R-14 down to Key West, Florida.

1:03:54 Oh. Have you ever been there? Yes, once. Me too once. I believe. Uh my parents used to go there quite often. Really? I guess I would call it. But yeah. Just for vacation? Yeah. Not for work. Just vacation. Key hook Key West was home to the Fleet Sound School where they trained crews in anti-submarine listening and detection. Okay. The R-14 was used to train both U.S. and Allied personnel in hunting submarines. And sometimes the best way to trade train sub-hunters was to do it. Have a real submarine as a target. Exactly. Makes sense, yeah.

1:04:34 So when the US entered World War II after Pearl Harbor, R-14 was one of the oldest subs still operational. It's wild that it was still operational, but yeah. She was obviously not fit for frontline combat. No, of course not. Yes, exactly. So, but she did find some uh a good niche in like home waters. So throughout World War II, R 14 conducted training exercises and even patrolled the Yucatan Channel, which is between Cuba and Mexico, right? And the Florida Straits. So that's kind of like the Yucatan Peninsula.

1:05:15 Is the peninsula different than the channel? I mean, channel would be water, peninsula would be land, so yes. I would say it's different. So is that part of Mexico? I believe so. Yucatan? I believe so. I am not a geo-girl or geographer or whatever, but yeah, I believe so. So these areas were where German U-boats prowled in 1942 and 43. It's fucking wild to think about. They were so close. Yeah, they were. Um, the R-14, despite her age, was out there on the lookout in the Caribbean and the Gulf. That's crazy. It's unlikely that she ever encountered any enemy U-boat.

1:06:00 And if she had, her chances in a duel would have been very slim considering her design. A duel, yes. But she did do something useful. She trained and she cautiously patrolled close to home. Sure. So one anecdote from 1944 excuse me, from the R14's later years came in June of 1943. Okay. By this time, US homeland was on high alert for German subs. Well, yeah, which makes sense. But sometimes they were too alert. Okay. On June 29th, 1943.

1:06:43 Yeah. R. Kelly I was gonna say R. Kelly. He peed on somebody. He married an underage Aaliyah. I mean R. Kelly. The R-14 surfaced off Key West. You gotta give me a second. R fucking Kelly. Wow. Alright, anyways. Okay, so June 29th, 1943, the R-14 surfaced off of Key West. Yes. The U.S. Army Coast Artillery mistook the R-14 for a German U-boat.

1:07:30 How? And opened fire. Oh, Jesus Christ. How did they mistake it? Did you come across that? They did not do their due diligence and figure out that. Oh my god, that is a Nazi flag, not a United States flag. No, it's got 13 stripes, Dick. But fucking hell. Thankfully, the gunners were not very accurate. Oh, good. Good old American ingenuity there. Or perhaps the range was too far away. But let's go with their inaccurate because they suck. The R-14 survived without any damage. Oh, thank goodness. Because it would kind of suck to have you shoot on your own fucking personnel, basically.

1:08:13 So by 1945, the R-14 was a geriatric vessel. They still have their place, man. She has served through World War One. That's crazy. The entire That's fucking wild. The entire interwar peace period. Interwar peace period. And all of World War II up to the final months. That's what's wild about it, is like you wouldn't think that. I mean, such an old submarine, and like submarines have been around for a while. And not not long after flight, even this thing was built.

1:08:58 And it lasted for 20 plus years. This particular model, obviously. Obviously, submarines are still going and so on, nuclear, blah blah blah, whatever. But fuck. I will you would never guess that. Yeah. Being built in 1919, right? And through World War II. That's fucking wild. Especially with the shit with the sails. I mean, they they fucking it's even amazing that they survived that. Because they could have literally sunk. They could have. So anyways. So it is a obviously remarkably long career for a submarine, and most World War II subs had a service life far shorter.

1:09:42 Correct. Finally, that was amazing. With World War II winding down, the Navy, the Navy was set to retire the boat. So R 14 was decommissioned on May 7th, 1945, in Philadelphia. So like that was what a month after Hitler killed himself, basically. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. So so May. Sorry, where was the location? Philadelphia. Okay. So May 7th was when they was decommissioned. Yeah. It was the day after Germany's surrender in Europe. Oh, so oh, so even that close. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha, gotcha, gosh. So she was removed from the naval vessel register later in May 1945 and sold for scrap by September.

1:10:30 That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, I get it because they're trying to keep money all that whatever. But okay. By 1946, R-14 was likely melted down, perhaps to become part of some new constructions, maybe a new part of submarine. Maybe a nuclear. Whatever. Yeah. Either way. So that's crazy. The R-14 in all of its glory never fired a single torpedo. From its torpedo tubes. Never sank a ship. Um it was just kind of hanging out. Yeah. She was one for training, experimentation, and one spectacular feat of seamanship as a sailboat.

1:11:16 That's fucking wild. Never even shot a torpedo. I mean, it's almost like, what's the point? But at the same time, I get it. I mean, scenario, all that stuff, but that's that's crazy. Never even shot a fucking torpedo. That's wild. Yeah, isn't that crazy? It really kind of is, honestly. But yeah. So that was the story of the submarine R14. The USS R14. Of course, because fuck all the birds where you are from. And I have a Domingo now. How'd that happen? Domingo. My apologies. Domingo. Yeah. Um, okay, so a hot dog lager. It was fantastic.

1:11:57 It was more on the basic side. It's a it's a light lager. It's not gonna be a normal. I don't know what I'm trying to say. Unique. Yeah, it's not super unique. It's very light. Dominga. Delicious. 10 out of 10. I love. How was your nosferatu? It was really good. I've never had them. I sold them in before in the past. Um, I love the packaging, the can, everything. It was it's really good. I am not a huge red fan, so red ales, red IPA is all Ambers, yeah. Yeah, but that was really good.

1:12:38 Awesome. I will look forward to enjoying the rest. It's eight percent, so maybe tomorrow. Because holy fuck. But um, I also had a Domingo or two. So good. I really like this from New Belgium. I'm a big fan, and I'm gonna have to see if I can have El send me some for free. I'm just kidding. I'm joking, Al, because you know that's what I do. Okay, if you have a story for us to research, please email us or text message us on our website. We are happy to oblige. Welp. I suppose.

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