I'm A Prophet!
Ever wondered how a German tavern keeper’s quick thinking during a beer shortage birthed the refreshing beverage we now know as shandy? Pour yourself a Leinenkugels Summer Shandy as we, Kate and Bradley, recount the delightful history behind this summer favorite. Reminisce with us about Bradley's, "Shandy Crew" days and our love for robust beers. This episode is all about blending fun personal anecdotes with a splash of beer history.
Then, travel back in time with us to ancient civilizations and their fascinating practices of fortune-telling. From pendulums and crystals to the Saros cycle used for predicting eclipses, we explore the tools and beliefs that shaped ancient and supernatural worlds. Hear stories about Chinese astronomers and their high-stakes predictions, and even the quirky practice of scatomancy in ancient Egypt. It's a journey of mystical intrigue balanced with a touch of humor and skepticism.
Lastly, we delve into the life of Baba Venga, the blind Bulgarian mystic whose life was as dramatic as her prophecies. Hear about her early life, dramatic events like being swept away by a tornado, and her rise to fame during World War II. We share personal stories intertwined with Venga’s predictions, from personal tragedies to heartwarming moments, and even throw in a few light-hearted tales involving Kate's cat Penny. Get ready for a rollercoaster ride through history, mysticism, and engaging conversations that will keep you hooked till the end.
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0:10 oh, hey there, oh hey there, I'm kate and I'm bradley and we have beer we've got beer we've got lining, what lining first and foremost, kels, we're the History of Buffoons. Thanks for joining us. Hi, I'm a History Buffoon. Bradley's a History Buffoon. She's a buffoon, all right. And then we're drinking a lining Kugels Summer Shandy, which is very lemony and delicious. Do you know the history behind Shandy? No Like what a Shandy is technically no. The history behind shandy, like what a shandy is technically no.
0:51 So I believe it was in. I could be getting my facts wrong, but whatever. Um, I believe it was in germany. There was this particular tavern keeper who there was like a bike race going through his town and because of that he was running out of beer and to make it last longer, he started mixing it with lemonade. Nice, and everybody started really liking it I hope that's real I believe it is. I mean, that's the story I was always told. I don't, I've, I have not done any research, but something along those lines. And then, um, yeah, it kind of was a thing. And then I don't remember what year it was 2006 to 8 or give or take. It's been out for a while summer.
1:32 Shandy has, I guess. I don't recall what year it came out, but uh, my buddies and I, who used to work at a beer distributor, together we used to be called the shandy crew because we would just destroy like multiple, multiple barrels of shandy at this one particular bar. We'd like to go to Shout out to the Salty Toad in Waukesha, wisconsin. Nice. But yeah, it's a really good beer. It's my go-to summer beer because, it's very refreshing, very light, but very delicious. That's why I like to drink IPAs in the winter, because they're a little bit heavier, although I still sprinkle them in from time to time. Especially when I visit my dad, we drink my other favorite beer, which is Sierra Nevada Torpedo Tubes.
2:15 No sorry. Torpedo IPA. Yeah, torpedo, sierra Nevada, torpedo, IPA. Yeah, torpedo, sierra Nevada, torpedo is delicious. If you don't know the reference Torpedo, listen to the Sullivan Brothers episode. Well, that's not what it's called but it's called Juno. about the Juno. Question mark Juno. About the Juno Wow, I like how we're already referencing previous podcast episodes. That is. That's pretty funny. I've got an interesting story for you. It better be. I think it's going to be really random.
2:56 I think you're going to think it's really random. Okay. We're going to talk a little bit about a particular fortune teller. Fortune teller Uh-huh Like Zoltar from Big. I was actually going to reference that at one point, but I never did. That's awesome. I'm talking about a human being. Zoltar wasn't real. No, oh man. Although Tom Hanks thinks otherwise probably. Well, he made him big. But did you grow up with those like magic eight balls? yeah, yeah I am old, but you know I was I. I came out before those came out, kind of thing. You came out. Well, I mean yeah, hey, mom so if you don't know what the magic eight ball is, it's a toy that looks like a, a billiard cube.
3:47 Eight ball, yeah cube nope, billiard ball wow um and it could. You would ask the ball a question, you would turn it over and there would be like a floaty dice, shake it, yeah, and it was usually like a triangle shaped yeah, yeah, die or die inside with the weird. What color liquid? I looked blue, I think it was blue, it was like really dark. I wasn't really black, no, it was kind of blue. Yeah, either way. But you would ask it questions like am I going to get a good grade in science class? And it would say ask again later I was gonna say not likely or not likely, yeah, or ask again later.
4:29 It was a bit, it's a, it was a big kids thing. At least, yeah, for us, I guess yeah you were pretty rich if you had a magic eight. But I'm just kidding, I had a mr potato head myself do you, do you know how the first mr potato heads were made like what they were? I think I have known that once before, but you can refresh my memory so I don't really have, I don't really have much of one I know not to get like super sidetracked, but the original mr potato heads were just like you would buy. It would only come with like the eyes and ears and you use an actual potato. That's awesome, yeah, anyways um so, have you ever had like a tarot reading?
5:13 I don't, I've. No, I know what it is, but no, I've never actually had an official tarot reading yeah, I've, I've had one once um what did it? and it was from. She was a kind of a newer and it was from. She was a kind of a newer acquaintance of mine and actually met her over covid which is random, um, but because meeting new people over lockdown seems counterproductive. But she, she knew exactly what she was talking about. She had been doing tarot cards for years and would do them on herself and everything. Of course I don't remember what was said about mine well done well jesus christ I know, but it's me well, hi, I'm the problem, it's me.
5:57 9 25. Hi, I'm the problem can you please stop? It's a taylor swift know, I'm the problem. Are you a Swifty? No, but she is pretty fantastic, I mean, and she doesn't get into trouble. No, she is. I like Taylor Swift because she, as far as I know and I don't follow people, really but she doesn't get herself into trouble really no. And she's got a lot of young people that look up to her. Yeah, and she knows that. So I don't know. Well, good for her. And she's got some really good songs and some, you know, a little bit more tweeny sounding which I'm not as into, but she's got some really good ones.
6:41 Do you know who she's dating Currently? into, but she's got some really good ones. Do you know who she's dating? Uh, a chiefs player. Yeah, good job. Only because the chiefs recently played the packers and she was all. Everybody was all up in roars because taylor swift is in green bay huzzah okay, anyway, back to the basics. All right, magic, eight ball, magic, eight ball. Tarot reading I don, you don't. Okay, so what exactly is fortune telling? I mean, it's the forecasting of a person's future by methods considered not rational. Well, I mean, if you go to someone who does tarot readings and be like this information I'm going to live by the rest of my life, you're pretty fucking special yeah, I mean I could understand like help using it to help you guide your way, but not solely based on that that's what it is is more or less.
7:35 Yeah, go this path. Yeah, instead of that one okay, so you're gonna help me name a few different types of methods for fortune telling, and we already said magic, eight ball and we said tarot cards. We've got the um the very generic crystal ball. Well, I mean, it worked in wizard of. Oz Sure did. Saw Auntie M. Well he really didn't. He really didn't. He was a fraud Um it's a good story though. Although the wicked witch had a giant crystal ball. She sure did, and you know. Anyway anyways so then you've got like palm reading yeah, like reading the lines on your hand and all that stuff. Yeah, can you think of one?
8:16 Oh fuck, I didn't know I was gonna be I told you you're gonna help me come up with them oh well, um no how about crystals? I mean crystals mean certain things to people to some people. Yes, to some people and there are pendulums like crystals on, like string or like a necklace chain. And then you've got phrenology which is like the bumps on your head yeah, I don't know. And then you've got reading tea leaves oh, like the saw the grim, yeah, and harry potter exactly, yeah tea leaves um astrology yeah, that's.
9:00 That's a big horoscopes yeah, um, and ouija boards, ouija ouija, oh, I sound like a ninja. That's weird so basically everything not based on science so is a ouija board ouija board, whatever however you want to pronounce it, I always call it a ouija board. But yeah, I always called it, yeah, yeah is that really fortune telling, because you're asking it questions and it said it can spell out answers and you can answer yes or no questions. So yes, I would say that I mean, it all depends on which way the person who you're with pushes it.
9:40 I mean, whoever thought that could actually like contact spirits is, I don't I don't know. I kind of want to believe that though why I? Don't know what's just like. I want to believe in ghosts and I want to believe in demonic supernatural. Yeah, I really want to believe it. I'm not saying that I'm on a thing. What demonic thing do you want to believe in, like you know, exorcist stuff? oh where you, where your head turns all around like Linda Blair's. Well no, because then you'd actually be dead. Yeah, because you'd snap your neck. Yeah, but I really want to believe in that stuff. Okay. But I've got more of a science mindset so it's kind of hard. However, spoiler alert, I do have pendulums and crystals and even runes.
10:24 Runes yeah, they're like little rocks. I know what a rune is oh okay. Maybe the audience doesn't so tell them, they're little. Elle, do you know? There's little rocks with like symbols on it. I don't know. Roll it around like dice, I guess. Clearly I don't do it. Are we playing Dungeons and Dragons here? No, that'd be fun. We have wizards. But fortune telling was dated back as early as 4000 BCE, which is about 6,000 years ago. Yeah, math. In ancient Babylonia. Babylonia, yeah, in ancient. Babylonia. Babylonia.
11:05 Yeah, so they used observation and record keeping to predict the future by studying celestial bodies like the sun and the moon and the stars. Okay, um, so they believe that they had their. The power was in um the omen. Power was in the sun and the moon the omen. Omens like the omen, like the movie omen like bad juju omen. Yeah, so, for example, they believe that a disappearing moon meant evil would befall the land, so like an eclipse wasn't it, um, when christopher columbus I think it was him founded the new world, even though he never landed in america or the united states as we know it?
11:52 I think he, because they understood it and he like, used that to his advantage. I think it was Christopher Columbus. I could be getting people mixed up, I do that a lot, but he basically. I'm Kate and I'm Bradley 9-25. His birthday. Yeah, that's why. She forgets it's coming up Well soon. Anywho, I want to say it was him. I could again mixing up stories, but I think, like because they understood that and tracked it for way longer than the natives did over here this way, and uh, he like said if you don't do this, I'll make the sun disappear, because he knew an eclipse was coming.
12:36 It was something like that. It it's a wild story. I've not heard that. It's yeah, and they're like, oh shit, we should probably listen to this guy. So there's, something called the Saros cycle and it's too you are Unfamiliar. Oh, it's 223 month lunar cycle, that occurs every 18 years, 23 month lunar cycle that occurs every 18 years, and after a complete cycle the earth moon and sun return to a similar configuration. Okay, and they use the saros cycle to predict eclipses, to warn rulers um in advance that it was coming to warn who rulers. Rulers like 12 inches, no, a yard maybe no like, like a king, yeah, okay, yeah, we got there we got there.
13:26 It took a bit in ancient china they used oracle bones and also the eclipse um, so a scribe would carve a question onto a bone or a turtle shell, often the shoulder bone of a water buffalo. Everybody's got a water buffalo. Yours is best, of mine is slow. It's really funny that you say water buffalo, because I was listening to a podcast earlier today where the two people both talked about a water buffalo and because they both rode a water buffalo, they rode one. Yeah, it wasn't really ideal. No one of them got really injured. And yeah, the other one kind of got bucked off and almost got injured everybody's got a water buffalo I don't know it's veggie tails, veggie, tails, veggie can you stop?
14:15 Yes, so okay. So the scribe would carve small pits on the other side of the bone and heat it up until it cracked, and the shape of the crack was believed to answer whatever question they posed. So, kings and professional diviners, Diviners. I think that's how you say it. I'm not 100% sure. Diviners yeah, I don't know, because I'm not 100% sure Diviners. Yeah, because it's like divination is part of that. But yeah, that's Harry Potter. So they used oracle bones to answer questions about the future, such as when it would rain, if a military campaign would be successful or if a pregnancy would result in a healthy child.
14:58 Just get a magic eight ball, It'll be the same thing. I don't think they had magic eight balls back then. So the earliest oracle bones date back to at least 1600 BC and are considered the mark of the beginning of the written Chinese history. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, so the eclipses that the ancient Chinese believed in. The astronomers would study them as far back as 2600 bce because they were considered omens for the future of the empire and the emperor. So around 2300 bce, emperor zhang zhang kong had two astronomers beheaded for failing to predict an eclipse see, that's why I would not want that job, because, because you're going to be fucking wrong a lot.
15:41 Yeah, and you got some weird tyrant dictators that are like you didn't guess this, right, fuck you, you're dead. You're dead. So no, thank you. So in the ancient Egyptians they reportedly used scatomancy. Is that from like like poop? Yes, Ew. Yes. Gross. They would predict the future by examining animal feces. Well, who doesn't? And they also considered the speed and the behavior of dung beetles, as well as the appearance of the dung the dung balls that they created when making predictions what I would like to know why that's so funny to you dung balls, dung balls.
16:29 It's just a ball of shit and then the early druid cultures used descrying, which involved looking at a surface like water mirrors and crystal balls, to seek information about the future. Did you know, as soon as a mirror is made, it's already used and it's never new. Yeah, all right. Anyways. So I would like to tell you about a specific person. Oh shit, we're getting to a specific person. Yeah, shit, we're getting to a specific person, yeah. That was just the brief historical background, a little preamble to what we're getting into. Yeah, so I want to talk about Baba Venga. Baba Venga Baba. Venga, I feel like that's some kind of a percussion sound.
17:13 Can you do a percussion on the microphone? I mean I could, but I don't want. To Fine, I have played percussion pretty much all my life. I know. That's why I asked you to do it. That was the table. So there is a book that I read and cannot find the name of it. It's called Baba Venga, the Controversial Life and Legacy of the Influential Bulgarian Mystic, and what I failed to write down was who wrote it. I would like to take this time and let you all know, elle, that we are not professional. We do this because we enjoy it and we want to learn something, even though Kate will forget it continue yeah, so um, that book was by, um, I think.
18:08 Actually I don't think there was like an author listed um, it was weird it was like a it just came through the ether and it's like here's a book it will change your life it's. It says it's from charles river, but charles river editors was it like a collaboration, then maybe I don't know. That's probably why I didn't write about it, wow okay anyway, this is top-notch podcasting. It sure is. Yeah, so she was born in 1911. Oh, it's a chick. She was born in 1911. Baba v, it's a chick, she was born in 1911. Baba, Venga Baba. I would have went with a dude for some reason. Like Jabba. Or Babu Frick from Force Awakens, or no, he was from the crappier ones Anyways.
18:51 So she was actually born premature and at that time, because they weren't sure that she was. Sorry, I saw that too and I'm like, oh man, this is touching. Go for a moment. My cat, penny, is trying to swallow her own hair and it's very comical looking A little context, here she is I wouldn't say long hair, but it's certainly medium to long, yeah, and so she's got a lot of fuzz on her and she was just trying to clean herself and it was stuck to her face, her tongue, her tongue. Yeah, it was pretty great. Okay, anyway, sorry. So not knowing if Baba Venga would survive, they actually didn't name the baby right away.
19:35 Is that how they came up with Baba Jesus? What a fucking name is baba it's? a nickname oh, okay her, so eventually she was given the name vangelina vangelina it means gospel in english damn right it does so baba or, excuse me so, vangelina, shortened as venga. So so Baba, vanga, and I think Baba means like grandmother or something like that. So her mother died when she was really young and her father remarried and she had three and a half siblings, three and a half. That's the goal, folks. Two and a half kids house, two car garage what the fuck?
20:17 She had three half siblings there it is is again not professional um vasil toma. And what's the first one? vasil v-a-s-i l oh I thought you said basil vasil. okay, I spelled it out phonetically La-yub-ka. La-yub-ka. La-yub-ka. Where are they from? Bulgaria. That's right Okay. La-yub-ka. I mean, that makes a little more sense with the funky names. So Venga claimed she actually had a life-threatening event that happened to her.
21:00 Supposedly a tornado swept her away and dropped her in a distant field. Like in Kansas. Kind of so she was rescued after an extensive search, but she was traumatized and her eyes were actually severely injured by the sand and the dust from the tornado Sure. And she was unable to afford full treatment on her eyes and she gradually lost her sight within four years. How? old was she when this happened? I think she was in her teens. So yeah, no kidding, she couldn't afford it. Mm-hmm yeah. Any worries. Yeah, what year was she born? 1911. Okay, so, yeah, what year was she born?
21:43 1911, okay, so she was like tween. I think so, because then at 14, she was sent to the house of the blind in a serbian um city called zuman? is that the same year reagan was born anyways? 1911. I don't know, I don't know my, my president history maybe not so um. They were given a basic ed um education, but that's where they learned Braille. Okay, she was never really into the education that was given to her, and she was actually considered only semi-literate in her adulthood. Well, I would think she's not very literate at all because she can't read, because she has no eyes. They taught her Braille. I'm kidding, good Lord they taught her brain I'm kidding good lord when her stepmother died in delivery of her fourth half sibling who also died.
22:26 So her dad had her and then remarried and had three, potentially four, but one died right away okay and then the stepmother and the fourth baby died and vanga was summoned home from the school to care for the children. Oh, the stepmother died in childbirth. Yes, oh, gotcha, okay. Yep and Vanga was summoned home to take care of the children. So at 18 years old, she became really disinterested in her appearance and started wearing tattered clothing, often too big for her, and they actually once belonged to elderly women that would they would like donate to local charities. Um, she exhibited some signs of developmental regression and she became more childlike in her speech and mannerisms as she got older.
23:11 In 1939, at age 28, she came down with an inflammation of pleura, which is layers of the tissue that separate your lungs from your chest wall. Okay, so it became inflamed and creating excruciating chest pains. I would imagine. So once she recovered, this is when her psychic powers began to manifest. Did they though? Is that what? they're telling us, began to manifest. Did they, though? Is that what they're telling us? She was inundated with invasive and eerily vivid dreams. She would hear phantom voices, ghostly apparitions. Short clips would play in her mind. She claimed auricular spirits would enter her body and she would slip into a trance and she finally started sharing her findings with her family.
23:59 At first they were skeptical, but they started to believe her after some of her predictions came true. Well, there's going to be a next week. I mean. I could do that. At one point in the spring of 1940, vanga had a vision that her beloved Bulgaria would enter World War II. This vision happened in public, and in her trance she let out a low, raspy voice of an older man and told of their entry into the war and the carnage to come. In March of 1941, so a year laterugoslavia and bulgaria entered the war sure, I mean it was in europe and lots of people joined so her prediction and ultimate accuracy of that vision started spreading through the towns that's pretty fucking weak.
24:52 Come on, do you know what happened on december 6th? shut up again reference to juno about the juno that same year um. So siblings, toma and laupka, were separated from venga and sent to a concentration camp. Oh shit, yeah. Toma was taken hostage by nasty soldier soldiers in 1944 and was tortured and murdered. What kind of soldiers? Nazi, not nazi soldiers? It sounds like you're saying nazi nazi nazi soldiers, and he was. He was tortured and murdered which one was uh, toma one of her half siblings yeah, I don't remember all their names already because they're fucking weird.
25:36 Well, they are Toma. They're Bulgarian. Babka Babu Frick so Lyubka she fleed from camp and was reunited with Vanga and they never really left their side again. Oh, I can imagine that would kind of suck. How come she didn't go to a concentration camp? I don't know well, because she was blind and like well, we can't experiment on her eyes so laupka became her personal assistant and helped arrange for the local um pilgrims which they. They reference pilgrims a lot in this book, but it's more like townspeople sure um, so they she helped um arrange the townspeople's appointments with Vanga because people are like she can see the future.
26:21 We want to talk to her. So did she charge for this? So no, Weird. So when she started doing this, she had the people who loved her and the people who hated her. They called her a vile occultist and she had talents from the devil himself. But then others declared her a prophet, prophetess and a special messenger from god. So you get the lovers and the haters. So that's pretty much average. Yeah, par for the course, yeah so visitors came to venga inquiring about love, lives, exams, careers and other personal matters. She would locate stray livestock and misplaced valuables.
27:04 In the 1940s, the majority of visitors wanted to learn of their loved ones at war. Sure, that makes sense. She could even help direct family members to their soldier's place of death so they could retrieve the body for burial. Okay. Crickets, crickets. Well, I mean, I'd like to know more. Yeah, so this book doesn't really go into a lot of detail. Maybe if there was an actual author they would have. Sounds like just an editor, uh. So visitors were instructed to place sugar cubes under their pillows and sleep on them, kind of like the tooth fairy.
27:48 So funny fact about the fact, funny thing about the tooth fairy. Uh, I was watching something and uh said something about fairies and my son goes fairies aren't real. The only real one is the tooth fairy, he's so cute that's adorable, buddy, but it was pretty funny that he said that so after sleeping on the sugar sugar cube what are? we talking about again sugar cubes sugar. They would bring them to Venga, and somehow it activated her powers and it became effective. Did she eat them? I don't know. I think she just like sweets. She would like roll them in her hand like dice. How did they not? crumble. You're asking me all these questions as if I'm talking to Venga every single day of my life.
28:33 You didn't, no Fuck. So the following is said to have solidified Venga's ability oh, geez, here it is. Between the winter of 1941 and the early spring of 1942, Venga was visited by the mother of a missing soldier named Christo Parchenov. That's the soldier's name. Yes, okay. And the mother came to visit. So, miss Parchenov? Yeah, off, that's the soldier's name. Yes, okay, and the mother came to visit. So, miss pachinoff yeah, venga told her that he was safe and sound but that he would not be back for some time. So after the set the session, cristo's mother shared the news to family and friends and they were all relieved, except for his new bride, pavlina pavlina pavlina was already grief stricken and hated the fact that she was a widow and refused to give herself hope and potentially be heartbroken a second time when finding out that he actually did die why so?
29:25 why does she consider herself a widow if she didn't know that he died? They anticipated that he died and so she was already like it's not like she didn't fucking care then, because like well, to have some hope listen to this, she moved on and married within one month yeah, weird, yeah, because he's not even dead. That's an illegal marriage, it doesn't count a year later, paulina ran into cristo at the market weird she turned white as a sheet and fainted. Good fuck that dumb bitch. Unfortunately, within just a few days of christo's return, his mother died of a heart attack well, hey, he got to see her and some. Some say that venga knew this and kept it from the mother to spare the mother any heartache sure yeah.
30:09 So visitors began gifting venga with food, money and other types of gifts for their appreciation. She never charged anyone and didn't want to discriminate against anyone because of their fortune. Can you say that word again Fortune, fortune, mm-hmm. Okay, vanga adopted two children with her husband, who was also a visitor of hers at one point. When in hell did she get married? Well, I skipped that part. She got married Good. Lord and then she adopted two children. I got that. So, even though she had children of her own, she was bombarded with godmother proposals which she never denied. So she had over 15,000 godchildren by the end of her life 15,000? . Which is why she's. Baba Venga, baba Venga, baba Lou.
30:53 Sorry, baba Ganoush. I like the Baba Lou. That's better. That's desi arnaz, okay, anyway. So supposedly even hitler came to visit her what in 1943 and offered her a job to like try and win the war basically she was vehemently no, no, no, no, no. And as he was leaving because he was pissed off, she said leave russia alone, you will lose this war. He was mad. Well, you know, in an act of punishment, he arranged for her husband to be shipped off to greece. See what a dick he really was a dick but vanga, because of her foreseen sight, knew her husband was going to return but warned him watch out for the water.
31:42 Of course her husband caught a form of hepatitis, likely caused by drinking contaminated water. She told him to fucking stay away from. I know could have. Could have had a beer, man, even though it's 90% water. Ultimately he came back from the war broken and he became an alcoholic and died of alcohol abuse on April 1st 1962. Oh, lived quite a while, I guess, after that. In 1967, the Bulgarian government employed Venga as a civil servant. She was supplied with a fully furnished office in the Institute of. Get this, oh my, this. It's so funny, Jesus Christ. She's so giddy, get this, get this.
32:27 A fully furnished office in the Institute of Suggestology, suggestology and parapsychology. Oh my God, what the fuck. Suggestology. I've never heard of such a thing. And you probably never will again, because you know why you already forgot it. What? What. So she was also given a full team of two secretaries and several aides who vetted the new applications. Two secretaries? Yes, because she is just bombarded with visitors. Good Lord. So Lyubka was also employed there who's that again? Laubka yeah, her sister, her half sister, that's right, that's right and with this new role um, they were given a fixed stipend monthly, sure. So locals were charged um 17 and non-locals were 87.
33:12 Holy fuck. Yeah, it's like I'll move to go talk to Venga for 17. I'm just going to go move here for a minute. Historians believe that Venga had to receive approximately $100 million throughout her career from the visitors alone $100 million. Mm-hmm, holy shit, that's how many. I need to start just fucking making shit up. I know, but yet she lived frugally. Well, yeah, she didn't want to advertise all that, so now employed with the government. There was a year wait minimum for meeting Venga. Holy shit, yeah, high-ranking politicians and celebrities were the only ones allowed to cut a head. At one point. She would perform 130 readings a day at only 10 minutes each a session.
33:56 That's insane. She would only sleep about four to five hours a night. Well, yeah, because she's just too busy making up shit, probably. She met with an award-winning novelist and playwright named Leonid Leonov from Moscow. Okay, she advised him to reconsider the placement of his manuscripts, which were always stored in his vacation home. Despite his reservations, he moved them to his apartment. Just days later, a fire erupted at his vacation home and everything inside was reduced to ashes. Supposedly, vega declared these next predictions, although some newspapers admit that they were fabrications made up. So some of these might be fabricated.
34:38 Some of these might be actually from Vega. So the 35th President of the United States would be assassinated. Who is JFK In 1968, an assassination of a congressman, Robert F Kennedy. Yep. The election of Richard Nixon. Mm-hmm. The death of Gandhi. Poor Gandhi. The Chernobyl disaster. That sucked. And 9-11. She predicted 9-11. So in the book that I read. It says, quote the American brothers will fall after being attacked by steel birds. That's fucked up. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, also, that the 44th president was going to be African American, and apparently he was going to be the only one.
35:27 Oh well, sorry guys. Apparently, she also predicted COVID. What yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So here are things that she said that were not true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here are some things that turned out not to be true. Yes, I have a question after you read this. Okay, she said that cancer would be eradicated in the early 21st century. Whoops. A drug would reverse the aging process, featuring hormones from horses, dogs and frogs. Weird. World War III would begin in 2010 and stretch on for four years.
36:08 Nope 2016,. All of Europe would be reduced to a dystopian wasteland. Nope. Although some people think this is a metaphor for Brexit. See, now you're just grasping at fucking straws. That's ridiculous. To Brexit, come on. The USSR would rise again in the first quarter of the 21st century, and she hosted sessions up until the day of her death, and she had at one point continued to predict years on some things that would happen, some things that would happen, and I have a list for you so you can ask your question, and then I'm going to go on to this list.
36:49 Has anyone and you probably don't have this answer has anyone figured out her success rate percentage-wise? I don't know. I'd like to know that number. That would be very interesting to answer. Has anyone figured out her success rate like percentage-wise? I don't know. I'd like to know that number. That would be very interesting to know. Because like okay, yeah, she got some things right. Right. Clearly you just said she got some shit wrong, Right? I mean, let's go off of baseball terms. If you're batting .500, that's pretty fucking good. But if you're only getting one out of two things, right, that's not that good. Okay, so these are the predictions for the future here. Oh, I can't wait. I hope I'm in this in 2028, four years. People will put it yes, you're welcome math.
37:30 People will put an end to world hunger no, they won't. four fucking years now world hunger is supposed to end. Unless there's some like magical thing that happens, that's not going to happen. We will land on Venus. The gas the gas planet. Yeah, I mean isn't that where women are from? Wait, I mean we can't be gassy wait, I mean, we can't be gassy in 2046. We have perfected cloning oh in 2130 2130, we have connected with extraterrestrial life forms well, haven't we already at area 51?
38:14 I don't know, I don't know either Government 21-64,. Scientists will discover the first animal-human hybrid. What Like a centaur Sweet. Between 21-70 and 22-56, we will have a colony on Mars. This is just fucking ridiculous. And on Mars they would unveil nuclear weapons and declare autonomy from the earth civil war in 2341 is her. Her saying it's the beginning of the end end of what everything yes, so earth will be unfit for human life using up all of its resources and we will end up living on other planets, in other solar systems well, that's, that's okay.
38:59 I mean, she was alive when movies were out. That's like a premise for a lot of movies in 3797 all plants and animals 97. I mean, the good news is I won't be around. All plant and animal life will be extinct. Yeah. In 4676. Oh my God, this is getting ridiculous 340 billion humans will evolve into mortal beings being able to literally converse with God. Oh, for fuck's sake. And the end in 507979. The universe will implode all right, so okay, hold on.
39:43 That's baba venga. And the book is, uh, the controversial life and legacy of the influential bulgarian mystic by charles river editors okay, some of the stuff you mentioned from her earlier life. Okay, maybe there's something to it, but all that shit at the end there in my book just completely discredited her. Yeah, holy shit yeah, now I'm curious what her success rate is yeah, I'm curious how to how? Yeah, I'm curious how to how. So these people are going to turn into what'd you say? Immortal beings. And be able to converse with God? Yeah, so why are they going to?
40:24 Are they going to ask him like hey man? are you going to stop this from happening? 51 whatever and be like he stopped. The end of the universe, not the end of the world, the end of the universe, but remember human beings are in other solar systems by now. I get that. What the fuck Did you know that next week there's going to be a Tuesday? I'm a prophet. What? the fuck I think that's the title of our episode I'm a prophet. Because, holy shit, I mean again, I am not.
41:09 I am, like you kind of said earlier on, more scientific minded. I guess I'd like to believe that there's something mystical out there, yeah, but man, they have yet to prove that right. And, uh, weird shit does happen, don't get me wrong. And everyone's all like, like jesus and toast. That doesn't mean fucking jesus was there, it just burned the wrong fucking way or whatever Shit like that. People, they, they put way too much stock into it. Yeah, in my opinion, yeah, but to each their own. If you want to believe in that, if you believe in God, good for you. Not everyone has to. Yeah, or whatever.
41:51 Whatever you want to believe in. Whatever it is, but you know I I'm gonna go with bullshit. Like I said, the mystical arts are not mystical arts, not. What is dr? strange, in fact no, that is true, they're not deaf, they're proven in idiocracy. That's a movie Proven in Idiocracy. That's a movie Gatorade the water sucks. It really, really sucks. I'm really confused how I went to the water boy from Idiocracy, but okay. Because, Idiocracy, they use Gatorade to water all the plants.
42:31 I think I've only seen that movie once. I saw that movie once, like shortly after it came out. I think it was Gatorade or something like that. It really, really sucks. So then I jumped to Waterboy. Can I open a can of Whopass on you? I haven't watched a Waterboy in a bit. Bobby Boucher, great movie Baba Venga, bobby Venga. Bobby Boucher and Baba venga, it's like they're related do you? have an idiom for me yeah, let's do, let's do one, let's check it out, shall we? When families could afford pork, they would hang up their bacon when having visitors to show off.
43:16 Oh Okay. We fancy pants over here. It was a sign of wealth that a man could what. Oh, bring home the bacon. Yep, oh yeah. They would cut off little pieces to share with their guests, so they would sit around and what? Pass the bacon. Chew the fat. Oh, I don't think I know that one you've never heard of chew the fat I don't think so it's just, basically it morphed into more or less he would come over and chew the fat for a while, or whatever. It's just you talk, then obviously yeah, but yeah, you've never heard that one before. Oh, uh-uh, oh, wow, okay. Pass the bacon, pass the pigs.
43:57 Oh, oh, didn't you see what I did there? I didn't want to. That's a game that we play. He always loses. I won the last time we played it. Out of how many. I didn't bring it up. Why'd you? That was a good episode. I mean if you're into the mystical arts. Things like that, I guess. I'm going to go get my pendulum. Where's my crystals? They're all in my basement. Oh, actually, my favorite crystal is Howlite. Don't ask me what it means, I just think it's pretty. What color is it? They're white and with little gray it looks like marble.
44:41 Okay. But it's called Howlite and I like it because it looks like marble and I really like it. It's very aesthetically pleasing to me. Well, that's nice. So I have a lot of those and I have a Howlite Pendulum, those and I have a howlite pendulum and I have citrine, which I think is more, is like a you know, like hold, hold, hold the citrine in, you know, so you get some like good money that day or something. So I used to like carry that in my pocket trying to sell retail at the spa so my mom I'm old, my mom's really old uh, was the whole always like oh, my left, my left palm is itching. That means I'm gonna come into money. And she, she said this literally to me like a week or two ago and I'm like when has that ever actually fucking happened, mom?
45:28 And she's like I don't know or or. It's like my ears, are it burning? Someone's talking about me. My ear's ringing. Left is for love, right is for spite, I've not heard of that. No, yeah. Left for love, Right for spite. So if your right ear is supposedly, If your right ear is ringing, supposedly it's someone talking shit about you or whatever, and if your left ear is ringing it's someone who loves you is talking about you. So you have tinnitus. So what does that mean? I always hear stuff and it sucks so bad I have to fall asleep to a movie every night and so like I get on kicks of specific movies. For the longest time it was lord of the rings and I always have to start it at the same spot.
46:11 I shouldn't say lord of the rings. The fellowship of the ring recently and for quite some time it's probably time I mix it up because my wife is probably getting annoyed with it is Tombstone with Kurt. Russell and Bill Kilmer. I thought you were going to say the Mummy. Oh no, that was the one before Tombstone, in between Lord of the Rings and Tombstone, because otherwise, if I have nothing on, that's all I if I, if I have nothing on, that's all I hear is just a rigging in my brain and it's not pleasant. Yeah, drives me insane and that's why we're here, folks insaner. See what I did there.
46:51 I think it's time for another beer I think so too okay all right folks. Thank you very much thanks for listening. We'll see you talk to you, hear from you next week don't forget, you can um text us through the episodes as well. We like to uh hear from y'all yeah, text us, and you can do an audio recording too, like a voicem voicemail. Yeah, send us a voicemail, because I'm really looking forward to getting our first voicemail. Hopefully we've had one by this recording or this posting, but if not, please do. It'd be fun to hear from someone I don't know. Al. No, I'll just text him. I actually know him.
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