The Origin of Weird: Weird Origins of Idioms

0:16 oh, hey, there, oh, hey, there, I'm kate, and I'm bradley this is the history of my food, and what did you say? you're not prepared. I'm not prepared because I don't have a story. And it's really weird. My computer's not up. It's sitting next to me but it's not up. It's sitting next to you because we're going to do something a little different today. I feel like my hands need something to do. Would you like to knit? No, so this is a special origin of weird and this is going to be interesting because I've never really done this before, because usually I'm the one that interacts with kate's story stories and, um, well, I thought to try something different.

0:58 So I am gonna try something here and I hope this doesn't suck, okay, so we like to throw idioms in from time to time. Yes, yes. Oh, I'm sorry, you can tell I'm not used to driving this ship. I held up our unopened beers as in don't forget that we have a beer. Stupid, this is so backwards I feel like this is never gonna see the light of day. So I have, um the three sheeps, pineapple fresh coast, because you've had the regular fresh coast and I loved it yeah and this is a juicy pale ale with pineapple I guess I didn't realize there's a pale, ale same is that.

1:48 What all fresh? coasts are? No, I don't think so oh, interesting. I guess I haven't had enough of their beers to know what they are but uh, this one is so three sheeps is in sheboygan correct in wisconsin. yeah, I've been there, it's fun. And I have a pet skull brewing company. And you said these are from Manitowoc, right yeah, I have a Reducinate New England IPA. What's the difference between new? What is it? Indian IPA. No, it's not new Indian. New was just a misstep, but Indian Pale Ale, so an IPA is a India pale ale. Yeah.

2:29 A new England one is just literally from, like our new England area, okay, the East coast. Basically there's American pale ales. There's lots of variations. So typically, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm remembering my beer knowledge correctly, new england ipas are a little more on the juicier side, if I'm not mistaken, hence the name reducinate correct. Um. So let's uh crack them open and see what we got here. Mine was a little sloppy you're gonna jump out you a little bit cheers, cheers. Oh, that's not bad. That is on the juicier side I think I taste pineapple I mean, I hope so.

3:12 It's a pineapple fresh coast. It's super subtle is it really? But it tastes really delicious, I say that's probably not a bad thing. I like, I love pineapple it's on the back end okay, sure, I can see that like when I breathe, stop breathing like when I allow it to like the leftovers to like sit in my mouth. Sure, I guess the aroma, I don't know you give you pick up the effervescence, no it's definitely on the back end, but it's really good. I like it good I'm, I like it. Good, I'm glad you like it. Mine's rather quite tasty, so much I'm going to take another sip. I might actually get to finish a beer.

3:52 I was going to ask do you need a backup beer? I don't know. I mean, we can always clap it out. I have that Modelo over there. Why is it over there? All right, all right, so um from time to time I burped that's got to be not a first on this podcast. When we do our episodes, sometimes we like to throw in idioms yes, yes, so um, I might have exhausted my entire list on this episode seriously but I think it was worth it, oh my god so what's our backup? plan, look up more idioms oh okay, I'll get to that later too kind of um, I thought it'd be kind of fun just to do a little uh, I don't want to say a deeper dive because like so, basically, I kind of broke it up into a couple sections for this episode and I'm going to do a little deep dive on a few of them.

4:47 I got another couple things to do with it and I thought it'd be kind of fun to learn some more idioms. Basically, okay, and kind of just, I don't know, do something a little different than what we're used to. And I know you're thrown off as fuck right now. I am and so am I because I really hope this isn't a shitty episode as fuck right now, and so am I because I really hope this isn't a shitty episode anyways. So both, basically, uh, most idioms are quite ridiculous if you think about it right. So again, just for anyone who doesn't know what an idiom is idioms are those weird little phrases that sound completely normal until you stop and think about them for five seconds. Basically, they just make no sense, and like don't put the the horse before the cart.

5:30 Yeah, don't put the cart before the horse. I mean, usually you want the horse before the cart but yes, correct, but like, uh. So, for example, like like why are we letting cats out of the bag? Right, you know um who put them in there the first place anyways, let the dogs sorry Like. Why are we letting cats out? Of the bag Right. You know, yeah, who put them in there in the first place? Who let the dogs in? Sorry, that's part of it, I'll get to that. Or why would you ever, you know, bite a bullet? Basically? Bite the bullet Yep, yep, yep. Yep, yep. So I was kind of looking around stuff and I saw this kind of quote thing and it says idioms are like histories inside jokes. I like it, so do I. I like it a lot. That's why I had to put that in there. But some do have real historical roots.

6:14 Some are, you know, a complete mystery where they came from, basically, and pretty much they're all quite strange when you actually look at what they are. They're all quite strange when you actually look at what they are, um, so we're going to do a little, a little deep dive and see see, uh, how some make sense and some are just completely weird. Okay, so, uh, anyways, so these are all ones that I haven't done on the podcast before. I believe, um, I'm pretty sure I haven't. I have marked most of them, so if I do cover something that we've done, I apologize, but and I know some of these, you've given me some Nathan's given me some, um, I've gotten some from other people.

7:00 There's only two that I could really fully remember who I got them from. And the first one I literally got and I was just talking to you about this earlier some movies I was watching and I I've known of this, but I was watching this movie the other day and I'm like, and this kind of helped, you know, start off this thought of doing this episode. So I was watching the dark night and Bruce Wayne. Uh, wayne is talking to Lucius Fox and says I'm playing this one close to the vest, oh yeah. So the idiom and it varies is close to the chest or close to the vest, and I'll get into that a little bit. But the idiom close to the chest again also often said as close to the vest, comes from the world of card games.

7:43 Said is close to the best, comes from the world of card games, particularly poker, and? Uh has everything to do with strategy, secrecy and not tipping your hand. Uh, literally and figuratively, basically. But um, the origin of it is from, like I said, card games and games like poker. Keeping your cards hidden from your opponents is crucial. If you hold them loosely or away from your body, you risk revealing your hand even if you don't intend to. Basically, so skilled players were advised to hold their cards close to their vest or chest to avoid giving away any clues about their strategy, look or emotions. Vest was the more common term in the 19th century american english and over time chess became an interchangeable and slightly more modern sounding version.

8:28 So bottom line is basically holding cards close to your body equals keeping your intentions secret and maintaining control. Uh, the idiom evolved to apply beyond poker, uh, table. The poker table, I should say sorry and now means to keep information, plans or feelings secret, revealing little to others. So, in like business, the CEO played it close to the chest during negotiations in relationships. This is a quote when I found actually I thought it was funny. She's nice but she plays her emotions close to the chest, hard to tell what she's really thinking. I thought that was funny so I had to include that one, um, or in strategy. You know he's got a plan but he's keeping it close to the chest for now.

9:11 So, uh, basically like why this idiom kind of works in this whole world is it comes from a visual, it is very visual. If you think about a card player holding his cards close to his chest, you can literally picture that in your brain. It taps into the human psychology. So the tension between sharing and withholding and applies broadly between, like I said, business, politics, personal life, sports, pretty much any type of strategy, setting, basically setting. Basically. So, like I said, vest versus chest, um, people always wonder which one is correct. Close to the vest is technically the original, more traditional phrasing, especially in american english.

9:54 Close to the chest is now just just as common, if not more so in casual. So when I grew up grew up I'm still growing up I always thought it was close to the chest. I never, and so the first time I ever heard close to the vest, I'm like did he say that wrong? But no, it's. They're interchangeable these days, but the original apparently was best. It's like coming down the pike. Yes. People think it's pipe. Correct, but it does say I did see language purists might prefer vest, as it's the original word used in the idiom, but in modern conversation both are widely accepted. So first interactive part here.

10:38 Okay, I have a little rope, it's not, I guess, role play um. So open your computer and obviously you'll read the red parts okay all right, so I'm gonna set the mood here. It was a smoky tuesday night in the back room of club buffoons. Hey, the stakes were high and everyone at the table was playing their cards close to the chest you gonna play? play that hand tough guy, or are you just here to babysit your chips? I play when the time's right, not before, not after. Timing is everything. That's so, because from where I'm sitting, you're all mystery and no action.

11:21 You've been sitting on that hand so long. It's growing roots. I keep it close to the chest like a secret or a disappointing Christmas gift. Disappointing Christmas gift. You mean close to the vest. Vest chest depends on if you're playing cards or dressing for a 1920s gala. But eventually someone's got to lay their cards on the table. Not me, not today, anyway, so yeah. So next time someone's not sharing much. They're not being rude, they're just playing it close to the chest, All right. Oh my gosh. So the next one I have comes from you, which is jump the shark.

12:04 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So the idiom jump the shark has one of the most specific and pop culture based origins of any modern expression. It literally comes from a specific episode of a TV show and has since taken a life of its own. Um, so the origin is actually from. Do you know where it came from? tv, like you said which show it does? Is there a shark involved? Yes, literally, literally is a shark involved and it's from a show or a movie, tv show. Oh flipper I mean, I like the guess um because that was an old show, right?

12:48 I think that was an old show. Was that a TV show? I? think so. I think you're right. I guess I don't recall. I don't know, I'm making that up Maybe A shark in a TV show? Yep. Ugh, it's quite ridiculous, honestly, and that's why this whole thing kind of stuck. It's older than Sharknado. That's a movie, I guess. Isn't there like 12 Sharknados by? now Did Jaws become a TV show that I don't know about? Nope. Nope, I want to say it's around a similar time frame, but no, it's not because of Jaws.

13:28 I don't know. Happy Days. Oh, I've never seen it. You've never seen Happy. Days? No, there's a shark. Happy Days. Oh, I've never seen it. You've never seen Happy Days. No, there's a shark in Happy Days. You'll learn that, but you've never seen Happy Days. Not really. I mean, I know who Henry Winkler is, who's. Henry Winkler. What's his character's name? There is literally a statue of him in. Milwaukee Happy, no, he was Days. What, what, what. What's his character? Fonzie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Arthur Fonzarelli. Sure sure, the Fonz, the Fonz yeah. If you ever had a jukebox that stopped playing. He fucking hits it and it starts playing Magic.

14:10 No, I've never watched it. Alright. So this phrase comes from the american sitcom happy days, specifically season five, episode three, titled hollywood part three. So great there it's called hollywood part three okay, it aired in september of 1977. Okay, so a short synopsis of it is. In this episode, fonzie, played by henryler who you just said. He's in Scream. That's why I know him I was just going to say. That's why you know him. I love Scream. The super cool leather jacket wearing character jumps over a shark on water skis while still wearing his leather jacket. The show was trying to keep things exciting and edgy but the stunt came off as silly and desperate even by late 70s TV standards.

15:10 So the coining of the phrase, the actual idiom, his roommate Sean Connolly, were talking about TV shows that had passed their prime and Hine referred to the shark jumping episode of Happy Days as the exact moment the show started its decline. So they ran with that in the late 1990s, which cataloged the moments when TV shows supposedly began to go downhill. The site became so popular that it was sold to TV Guide in 2006. That's awesome. So the modern meaning. So today, jump the Shark means the moment when something that was once popular or high quality starts to decline in quality, often because it's trying too hard to stay relevant.

15:54 Yeah, so most notably for uh tv shows or franchises that outlive their welcome and resort to gimmicks like sharknado 23 or whatever the fuck number they're at or mission impossible for 45. So I I disagree with that one. They're pretty good. You just aren't a huge Tom Cruise fan. Yeah, I could take them or leave them. I know Really leave them. Or basically brands, artists or trends that do something over the top or out of character for them, that clearly signals it's past their prime, basically. So some examples the show really jumped the shark when they introduced the talking dog. You know something stupid like that, or whatever. Or that band jumped the shark after their fourth album when they started doing EDM remixes of polka songs.

16:41 Why it's stuck, though, and why people think it's such a perfect idiom, is because it's vivid. You can literally imagine a guy on water skis jumping over a shark. Even if you haven't seen the show, you can now picture something stupid. Take a figure jump over a shark on skis in a leather jacket. It's tied to a real, traceable cultural moment, which Happy Days was fucking huge back in the day. Pretty much, it describes a phenomenon that most everyone recognizes, even if they don't have a name for it. Yeah, so that is Jump the Shark which you I think mentioned to me in like the last week or so, Something like that.

17:21 All right In, the. Was it part one? I think right, yeah, it was part one of Lizzie. I mentioned Road Hard and Put Away Wet. Yeah, the Lizzie Sear episode yep, part one. So, uh, that idiom comes from the world of horse riding, which I've told you about a little bit, um, and horse care, and, like many idioms, it evolved from a literal practice to a metaphorical meaning over time. So, in its original context, rode hard and put away wet referred to poor treatment of the horse. Basically, when a horse is ridden hard, it sweats heavily and becomes hot.

18:01 If the horse is put away wet, meaning pretty much you put it in a stable without cleaning it, watering it down, whatever it might be properly cooled down, basically it can become sick or injured, and that's actually a real thing me having a horse before, but yeah. So basically, proper horse care requires walking the horse after a hard ride, allowing the horse to cool down from very vigorous activity, basically Over time. Though this phrase was adopted metaphorically to describe a person who appears exhausted, worn out or used up, kind of like Lizzie Seard looked like she was what 29. I think he said she looked really really old for 29,.

18:45 But basically, uh, you know, he looked like he'd been road hard and put away wet. Yeah, that's pretty much what I said about her too. Basically, rode hard and put away wet. Yeah, that's pretty much what I said about her too. Basically, it's mostly a joke about someone's appearance these days and, uh, a lot of people, uh, just use it for I don't know, not an attractive person kind of thing. Good old horse riding. So have you ever heard the idiom? I kind of picked this one specifically for you because of your five cats. Oh, okay, and I have cats too, but there's more than one way to skin a cat. Yeah, I've heard that. You've heard that before. Yeah, Hold on while I sip my beer. You maul that one over. So the idiom there's more than one way to skin a cat means that there's more than one way to accomplish a task or solve a problem.

19:31 It's about flexibility, problem solving and the idea that if one method doesn't work, you can try another. That phrase sounds pretty grisly at face value, so let's break it down, break it down. No, keep going. No, thanks, no, keep going. No thanks, no keep going, no thanks. No, keep going, no thanks. No, keep going. No thanks. Oh my God, that was fucking masterpiece. All right, so the phrase isn't really about cats, okay, apparently. So the cat part isn't literal, it's a metaphor.

20:11 Right In early centuries cats and other animals were sometimes using, uh, used in idioms, because they were familiar to everyone and people were way more comfortable referencing violent imagery than we are now, which sometimes I disagree with that. But either way, uh, it likely never had anything to do with people routinely skinning cats, but rather was an evocative way of saying there are multiple techniques. So early versions use different wording. Uh, the earliest known version, uh, doesn't even mention cats. It's from 1678. Wow, uh, john Ray, an English naturalist I don't know what a naturalist is, but anyways and compiler of Proverbs wrote there are more ways to kill a dog than hanging.

20:59 So dogs were the first one, apparently, or at least the first thing they can kind of associate with that. Um, it wasn't until the 19th century that skin, skin a cat version became widespread. Century that skin, skin a cat version became widespread. One of the earliest known uses comes from an 1840 work by american humorist, sebastian g doyle. There are more ways than one to skin a cat, so he's the first one that said it. Basically, this version seemed to catch on, likely because of its vivid and memorable phrasing. People tend to remember weird or striking impressions. Like you talk about skinning one of your cats, you're like what the fuck? Yeah, you'd remember that, right. So I thought this was kind of weird.

21:41 But, um, it may have roots in fishing or trapping terminology. Yeah, I didn't really I'll tell you, there's more than one way to scale a fish or to trap a fish. Uh, some reachers, wow. Some researchers speculate that skinning a cat might refer to catfish. Oh, you like catfish? I really do, I know which were and are commonly eaten. Catfish are notoriously hard to clean and prepare because of their tough skin, and fishermen developed a number of techniques to skin them. So the phrase may have started among fishers as a literal comment and evolved into a metaphor.

22:25 So this is kind of why the idiom stuck. It's got graphic imagery Sure does, sure does. So that kind of makes it memorable, right. Yeah. Our brains remember things that are shocking, gross or dramatic. It's flexible. You can use it in almost any problem-solving context Makes sense, and I like this one, though it's got rhythm. It's got rhythm. The phrase is a nice flow and balance that helps it endure. I'm like all right. I thought this was also funny in some of my looking at this up, modern sensitivities. Nowadays people are more aware of animal cruelty and might find the phrase off-putting, and because of that there's alternatives.

23:10 Like this is so lame. There's more than one way to do it no you don't say I was actually gonna say that there's more than one way to do this more than one way to crack a nut. That sounds painful, and different strokes for different folks. Sometimes those are used depending on your audience. Basically All right, so I have wrote a scene. Do I get to open my computer again? Yeah, and you got to click on the part three one and I'll set the scene when you're ready.

23:51 Ready. So I even gave you a name. It's not just kate, you're playing a character okay so to set the scene, we're in a dark 1800s parlor room. Two people in waistcoats percival and emma. You're emma, I'm percival no thank you sit drinking tea. Papers and diagrams are spread out on the table. A taxidermied cat sits ominously on a shelf, so I'll be Percival here. Now hear me out, emma. What if we skin it from the tail up? Tail up. Are you mad, Percival? That's how my cousin lost a thumb. The tension builds near the haunches.

24:33 It's madness. Madness. No, no, it's innovation. Look if we don't find a new way to skin a cat. The Royal Efficiency Society is going to reject our grand proposal again. Why can't we just invent something practical like a steam-powered muffin warmer? Because, Emma, everyone is doing muffins, but cat skinning Untapped market. You know, the idiom never said we had to actually skin a cat. It's metaphorical Percival Like don't count your chickens. So I'm not supposed to count the chickens either, and this is why the phrase stuck, because no matter what you're doing, there's always another terrible way to go about it.

25:18 Wow, so that's the end of our role playing. Thank you for participating. Absolutely, it's fun. So, anywho, that's the end of the deep diver, deep diver, the deep dive on those particular idioms. So and I do even mention this at the end, but I'll even say it now we have another section here and this is another interactive part. Okay, the ones I'm about to do, I may do a deeper dive on episodes down the road, okay I just want to say that, so we are going to do rapid fire idioms oh, all, right, okay. So I'll say the idiom Okay, kate, you will guess the meaning.

26:02 Okay. All right, I'll let you know if you're correct and then I'll give a very, very, like I said, short explanation to each one that came from the bowels. That came from the depths, someone behind me I don't see anyone scott free is it scott free or scotch free? scott, I was wondering scotch free is a non-alcoholic drink scott free like literally you got away with something, um, without consequences. Evading punishment uh, comes from scott, meaning a tax, not the country.

26:45 A what tax tax? Yeah, all right, grasping at straws um. The thing is, I know all these. Maybe, Trying to come up with something when it's not super easy to do. Desperate, yeah, desperate. Desperately trying something unlikely to work. Yeah, you're grasping out straws. Yeah. Nip it in the bud stop it before it starts stopping a problem early, like trimming a flower before it blooms, which I thought that was funny, that that was the one of the examples I found.

27:27 Uh, rhyme and reason there's no rhyme or reason. There's, there's no well, if you say no, then you make it negative, but there's also another way to look at it. But it's clear logic or justification. Yeah, rhyme and reason. So there's a rhyme and reason to this, or there's no rhyme and reason, obviously turning it around. Yeah, there's justification and a reasoning. Yep, yeah, wet my whistle. What I'm doing right now with my beer. Have a drink. Whistle a slang for mouth, which I can't do, my six-year-old son can. Are you calling the birds? No, okay, I like the cut of your jib.

28:12 Is jib in reference to a dance. No. Or your outfit. No personality. No, because I would think like I like the cut of your jib. I like what you do, I like who you are, I like what you represent I mean that that's. That's ultimately what it means yeah, yeah uh, but it refers to the shape of a ship's sail used to judge it from afar. So, like you could see a ship, you could see its jib and you could tell what it is basically or who it was or whatever it was. I like that. I like that from afar, yeah, but not up close, head over heels, you love, or?

29:00 enjoy something so much, yeah, that your head over heels you're it's supposed to mean falling in love? yeah, but originally described doing a somersault why, like, I, get the somersault, but why did it change into? I've known of this one for obviously a long time. I'm fucking old, like you like to tell people. Cause there's, like there's something referencing like a tea kettle too. That's similar. Is there. Head over heels. I did not see that. Something over spout or something I don't know. Ass over tea kettle. Yeah, that's it. Is that? it Maybe. I've never Heard the it was originally do doing a somersault. I'd never heard that before I looked this up. Um, but I always thought like head over heels was stupid, because yeah, it's called standing up, but I never really understood that.

29:48 But I knew what it meant, but I just like, let's, that's kind of dumb. But anyways. So now you'll have to do a deeper dive on that one. We'll do a deeper dive on that one compared to the tea kettle over ass over tea kettle. Yeah yeah, Uh, dollars to donuts Um like a even exchange of something. Uh not quite. Betting something valuable against something nearly worthless a very confident wager. So if you were going to like, if you knew for sure that whatever was going to win you would bet a thousand dollars, but you you would only bet, the person you're betting against would only have to bet a dollar, kind of thing, cause you knew you were going to fucking win, kind of scenario, something like that, down to brass tacks.

30:41 Oh, I don't know that one. Getting to the core of a matter, the origin is unclear, possibly furniture related. French related. Furniture, furniture, yeah, not French. In a nutshell, that's from nathan in a nutshell um, basically something, a large concept kind of broken down into like a quick yeah, a very brief summary, summary it goes back to ancient texts said to fit entire stories in tiny containers, and it's funny because when nathan sent me that one, I send him back the back, the Austin Powers gift. That is him, in a nutshell, like I don't know if you remember that movie, but anyways, all right, pleased as punch.

31:27 I mean that kind of speaks for itself, does it though? Yeah, you're so happy about something, yeah. I don't know what punch and judy is, but apparently it's something and it refers to punch from punch and judy. It's some kind of doll, is that? What it is um, I only know it in reference to the movie gone girl which was that in there? I don't remember that it was part of like their scavenger hunt. There there was a Punch and Judy doll. Oh shit, I didn't put that together. But I don't know if they're dolls or, like their characters, that in the movie they had them represented as dolls, I don't know, I'm not sure, but basically it refers to Punch, from Punch and Judy, who was constantly violent, yet always delighted, unhinged and happy energy.

32:13 Yeah Is basically what it's saying so all right, so that is a. That concludes our rapid fire. Wonderful, now I have one more for you. Okay. One truth, two lies. We've done this once before oh man I know, so I'm gonna give you the idiom okay and I'm gonna give you three options. Okay, you have to guess which one's right. Done, all right, so, but yeah, so we've done one of these before. I thought it'd be fun to do another rule of thumb. Have you heard this before? Yes. Do you know the answer? I think so. Well, let's see if you do. Okay. Option A In medieval England it was legal for a man to beat his wife with a stick no thicker than his thumb, hence the rule of thumb Mm-hmm.

32:58 Okay. Option B Carpenters often used their thumbs to estimate inches. Before precise rulers were widely available, it became a rough measuring standard. Mm-hmm. Option C Scottish judges in the 1500s used thumbs as units to measure the distance a criminal had to walk as punishment Yikes Leading to the term. Which one do you got I'm? going to say A, a, huh, yes. Well, you would be wrong. You know why I would say A. Because man beat his wife. Because there is a reference to it in Boondock Saints at the very beginning.

33:44 Oh. When they said rule, they were the brothers were teaching a new hire how to work the meat plant of some kind. Yeah, and he said, well, rule of thumb, and she's like. Men weren't supposed to beat their wives with more than the thickness of their thumb, that's where I got that. That's wrong. It is wrong and it's funny. You mentioned that. I totally forgot about that. But the funny thing is A it's a myth, a persistent myth that basically people think is correct for that. Do you think that's a what's that called Mandela effect? No, it's literally a myth that people think that's what rule of thumb means.

34:32 I wonder where that came from History? I'm not sure. Okay, so the other one was basically using using your thumb as a ruler, which is correct. That's the correct one yes that's, that was going to be my next right, yeah, my next answer I mean, the third one I came up with was kind of ridiculous, because who's gonna measure how many thumbs you're gonna walk to your punishment? but I don't know, get your thumbs out to unit of measure get your thumbs out everybody. We got this, okay? No, maybe not, but uh. So those are the idioms I have for you today. Thank, you I hope you enjoyed some of them I did um. But if there's anything we learned today, that idioms are completely absurd I mean, most of them are, uh, but somehow they're still around, uh, they're passed down like weird hand-me-downs from history, even if we've all forgotten where they came from, because and that's why we do these, because we don't know, I don't know where fucking most of these come from and that's kind of why I like looking them up.

35:32 I feel like I was bamboozled, Not an idiom but a great word Bamboozled. I think we need to come up with something for that, but that's probably what makes them. Last, though, is their historical nonsense. That we've just agreed makes sense for the most part, but I would like to say hopefully, anyone who gets it this far um, if you have a favorite idiom you want us to explore, or ruin, for that matter, um, please send it our way. Uh, I like to, you know, sprinkle these in our episodes from time to time. Uh, and I, if I get enough of them again, um, cause I, like I said, I exhausted most of my list of them again, um, because I, like I said, I exhausted most of my list, so, which means I have to fill up our episode.

36:20 Yes, so don't suck um, but if we get enough of them again, maybe we'll do a part two. Uh, similar to this um, down the road, so perfect, um. But like I said though, some of the ones I did in the rapid fire because they were very quick, brief explanations I might do a little bit of a deeper dive into them in future episodes, just to kind of learn a little more about them, because it was just a quick little thing for it, like who Punch and Judy are. Yeah, no, I totally forgot about that, about Gone Girl, I do not recall that at all, but now that you bring it up I'm like oh yeah, that is, that is a thing. So I don't know though, I'm not familiar and I'm old, so you would think I would.

37:04 But uh, how was your beer? so good, I really like it. It's not like a heavy ipa and, like I said, the the pineapple is not strong, but it's on the back end good, yeah, and I officially drank it all that's impressive because normally you don't get to. There's been like one or two that you have. Glad I could help you finish your beer, yes, so I hope you had a little fun doing this. I did. It was fun not having to do much, particularly like the role playing. You had a little fun doing this. I did it was fun Not having to do much. Particularly liked the role playing. Did you like those? Yeah, it was fun. Okay, good, I thought you might enjoy those, especially because you had me do a role play not that long ago for Lizzie.

37:49 So I'm like that would be kind of fun to do again. But obviously I wanted to include you on it, not just, you know, tell you stuff. I love it. Yeah, so Anyways, welp, I suppose. All right, buffoons, that's it for today's episode. Buckle up, because we've got another historical adventure waiting for you. Next time Feeling hungry for more buffoonery, or maybe you have a burning question or a wild historical theory for us to explore hit us up on social media. We're history buffoons podcast on youtube x, instagram and facebook. You can also email us at history buffoons podcast at gmailcom. We are bradley and kate. Music by cory acres follow us wherever you get your podcasts and turn those notifications on to stay in the loop until next time, stay curious and don't forget to rate and review us.

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